/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>12332238
what do i buy tomorrow for yuge gains??

Nikkei is down for another red day.

>>12332249
Amd

>>12332249
SPX...U

>>12332249
unironically GE

Bullrun scheduled for tommrow

>>12332249
> tomorrow
Don't. We're not done pink wojaking yet. Buy micron under 30 USD and you're golden though. If Tata Motors fall under 9 USD, buy up too.

It’s funny how /smg/ is boomer tier compared to wallstreetbets

>>12332324
Because they are stupid. Mostly Boomer index with some memefolio. Only way to go.

>>12332301
Hmmm lets check the schedual right here...
Errr...

Ah yes, it says right here, Bull Run canceled, SP to 0.

DOW futures up 100+ points
S&P futures green
NASDAQ futures green

based China

https://www.investing.com/indices/china-a50

>>12332342
What’s ur folio?

>>12332378
the partys preparations are perfecto.
I didnt rent this long table and mat for nothing

>>12332324
Listening to anything coming out of wall street is a surefire way to lose money. The only people who make money from wall street are the people who work there.

For everyone else being a boring old index investor is infinitely better.

Anyone actually make big money here?

Why the fuck are futures green???? NOTHING GOOD HAPPENED. Let the market crash and burn. Shut down the unconstitutional PPT. The market needs to die in order to be reborn without corruption. Impeach Trump, cut all ties with China, and let America be reborn as the next empire and leader of world for next 1000 years.

>>12332249
>>12332278
I'm thinking about buying AMD and with that selling weekly covered calls. Trying to put together a dividend portfolio and get away from the memes that have done some damage the past few months.Need to rebuild somehow. Have had the worst timing ever in this fucking market.

>>12332462
GALT, LCI, AMD as of this moment.

BTC is not private or fungible.

What use does a large corporate entity or institution have with a coin that can be analysed through chain analysis so that their competitors, foreign governments, or other bad actors can analyse all of their transactions data?

Information leaked includes relationships, supply chains, profit and loss information, accumulated wealth, and more.

For people serious about Business Monero is the answer. Data mining will be a serious issue for commercial deployments.

https://youtu.be/FeNYjYA2lVg

>>12332497
please stop buying

Does anyone know of a program that you can use to create virtual portfolios which backdate?

Im interested in creating some virtual portfolios, but I want to see how they would have performed historically (such as in the last 10 years).

I use my banks brokerage account which lets me do it, but its a hassle to use because I have to manually input the price of the share on the date I wished to buy it, rather than just putting in for example 1 Jan 2009 then seeing how that stock would have grown since then.

1. Put all your money in SPY.
2. Ignore every moron that tells you to do something else (including /SMG/).
3. Retire a multi millionaire.

>>12332497
Reversion to the mean, people see bulls see cheap buying opportunities.

people also betting Fed will hold off on rate hikes after the latest economic data, and are seeing hope in the latest round of trade talks.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-global-markets/markets-now-wagering-on-fed-rate-cut-china-u-s-trade-talks-calm-nerves-idUSKCN1OX02B

Out of all these things, only the Fed holding off has promise imo. But even then, it'd only be in response to an escalating crisis.

anyone thinking of shorting genworth?

>>12332555
Sorry but why would you be picking SPY over vanguard which offers lower fees. Its the same index tracking if im not mistaken.

Short
P
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Long
C
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>>12332598
Higher volume and tighter spreads.

>>12332512
Why the fuck is China surging after horrible manufacturing results? How much more proof do you need that the market is rigged? China should be hitting all time lows if anything.

>>12332238
I cant hear you boomers over my chainlink gains

>>12332238
tfw wealthsimple's 0% commission-free trading still has a waiting list

0% on everything including stock

>>12332654
No one gets to win in a bear market.

>>12332654
We sold off enough already that it wasn't that big of a deal.

>>12332674
1.5% currency conversion fee. Have fun.

perfect vincent van gogh Chart that perfectly outlines the SPY shorting tactic tomarroe

this literal gold, me will only give you guys something like this one,

have fun

If anyone wants to jump on the uranium bull, buy FCU sometime soon. Pre-feasibility study for their huge uranium deposit due soon, better than expected drill results back in September, could be a big one. My gains need the nuclear option

is it too late to get on nvax?

>>12332654
Um kiddo, the entire global market is fraudulent. You realize all of this is pure speculation right?

Im sure if you took investing out of the question and removing all the emotion and speculation traders/investors do, the true value of the global economy would be greatly lower than it actually is.

The good news is everyone is getting too rich to let that happen. It doesn't matter if you are the CEO of Goldman or some retail investor with $5,000. Everyone wants investments to go up, so they will eventually one way or another.

>>12332725

Nope but try to jump on if it dips below $2 tomorrow morn

How do you guys find a good biomeme stock

>>12332981
>How do you guys find a good biomeme stock
/smg/

>>12332708
Thanks rkg

>>12332616
On a scale of 1 to 10, how much effect do you think shilling LCI has on the stock price?
Do you think you can get enough newfags on here and stocktwits to boost it, it is this out of benevolence?

>>12332708
What am I looking at here

>>12333048
>On a scale of 1 to 10, how much effect do you think shilling LCI has on the stock price?
depends if they're buying with robinhood or another broker.. i think robinhood does something fishy with the shares people own...

if they are buying with another broker i think theres a lot of effect.. there is 85% institutional ownership and over 50% short the trading is getting really tight.. the more retail buys in and holds till higher the less shares shorts have to cover with.. the big institutions that would've sold have already sold the remainder of the shares on the market the shorts need in order to cover unless they do a SPA(share purchase agreement) with a large institution but i doubt those institutions will sell to them.. they are actually probably lending to the shorts right now and collect the fat interest payment on the borrowed shares.... so yes i think that retail could do a huge part in the stock price for LCI especially since there are very few shares that are actually out there in the market..

Also.. i don't think it's a trade that newfags will understand.. i don't think they understand how important share structure is and supply and demand (the demand will come from the shorts)..

>>12333094
That's really interesting, thank you
I always wondered if LCI posting was a meme or if there was a method to the madness. Makes sense desu

>>12332654
Chinese stock market already collapsed, and it's rigged regardless anyway.

Some of you are alright.
Don't buy any bags tomorrow.

>>12333094
Explain what you think RH does sketchy?

>>12333094
>>12333048
seriously.. think about it.. where the fuck are the shorts going to get shares to cover with? if 85% of the shares are being held by institutions and everyone else holds their shares high as fuck the shorts are going to have to cover with the lowest seller.. what if the lowest seller is some little retail guy with 1,000 shares at $10.. well thats who the shorts are going to have to buy from... the lowest seller... they will cover.. it's a matter of time.. and bulls aren't paying interest on their shares so they can hold and hold high if they actually understand what is going on and they aren't using some shady broker like robinhood that doesn't really follow a traditional brokers rules when it comes to having a contract with your sell limits and stops...

>>12333054

The chart has volume displayed on the right side relative to price level rather than time. There is an enormous quantity of short sellers around $241.

>>12333124
I think robinhood plays with your shares.... like you might not even own the shares when you buy through robinhood.. you might just be "tracking the price"

Other brokers if you set a sell limit or a sell stop those brokers CAN NOT lend your shares out to shorts thus reducing the amount of shares in the float... I heard differently for robinhood.. i could be wrong.. but i have a feeling robinhood does something funky with everyones shares... also find it strange they don't really have a clear realized gains and loss section for stocks like other brokers have...

>>12333116
If that bad news didn't come back in august but instead was good news that the contract has been reinstated.. LCI would have fucking mooned hard.. so anyone that says they seen that coming is straight bullshiting unless they knew inside information... shorts got their chance to cover and they didn't the trade still stands.. the share structure remains the same.. deals are being signed.. drugs are being launched.. expenses being reduced... shorts are in a pickle.. LCI is way undervalued at these levels and shorts need to cover

>>12333133
How do you know they are short sellers?

>>12333133
Also note that shorts are outnumbering longs by around 1.5-1 on average above 240.

>>12333132
I have 810 shares of LCI on Vanguard. I'm not sure if I want to sell out when/if it doubles or hold on for a year no matter what for capital gains purposes.

I don't know much about short selling but I find it odd that people didn't cover after the price more than halved for several months.

>>12333162

Sorry, I should have explained. The green bars on the right hand side are long positions. Red bars are short.

>>12333163
Just because a lot of people think something is going to happen doesn't mean it's actually going to happen.

>>12333168
>I have 810 shares of LCI on Vanguard. I'm not sure if I want to sell out when/if it doubles or hold on for a year no matter what for capital gains purposes.
just trade the trade.. if it's at a good price where you feel you should exit i wouldn't even worry about your taxes.. lock in them gains or someone else will... Guy Gentile has a price target of $20.. it very well could get there if everyone holding knows what a short squeeze is and knows how to play it.. problem is a lot of people don't know how to play it.

Lets say the stock takes off for 1-3 days then it drops a little a lot of people will say.. oh.. well.. its done.. but really if all bulls hold all it's doing is trapping more shorts.. problem is a lot of people sell and give into the shorts because they literally have no clue how short squeezes work..

>>12333170
Okay, but how do you know that? Where the fuck does the data stream come from? How do peoples positions get recorded with that much granularity?

>>12333186

I don't recall saying either way what I think the ramifications of this data are, champ.

>>12332500
I bought in at the end of fucking october. Don't talk to me about timing.

>>12333145
Wouldn't the SEC have a word with them and aren't they SIPC insured?

>>12333201
No one cares about your data dump without any meaningful analysis, champ. Any moron can post a chart. Use your brain.

>>12333202
Dont worry anon, maybe Navi and Zen2 will be the comeback AMD needs. Maybe you can look forward to breaking even in 2020!

>>12333206
>Wouldn't the SEC have a word with them and aren't they SIPC insured?
i'm sure they have figured that out. Wouldn't be suprised if Robinhood is shorting shares to their clients when the client buys and right away puts a bid in at a lower price to fill the order.... crazy shit goes on.. it's wallstreet...

>>12332654
Where else would the massive population put their money? Housing? No that is crashing now. Cash? Inflation will kill you. USD or Euro? If you want the communist party to send you to a re-education camp.

Stocks it is. Which also causes dat der price pump.

I have a question. Lets say that people try to sell there stocks tomorrow but nobody buys. Will the price stay the same or will it drop?

>>12333272
USD is the best place. All others go down in a deleveraging deflation cycle.

>>12333297
The quoted price will remain the same as whatever the last trade was, but the ask price will drop

>>12333297
Stay same. Price is based on last trade. In your scenario no trade would occur so no price update.

>>12333297
>>12333318
>>12333320
depends how they sell.. there will usually always be a market maker there to catch the stock.. when a company initially goes through their S-1 registration they need a market maker to agree to make a market for that security up to a dollar amount.. I believe it used to be 3 market makers had to sign off saying that they will catch the stock.. but it might only be one now.. so even if there isn't an actual buyer there.. there should be a market maker at some point in the falling knife since they agreed to support the stock up to a certain amount............ market makers are there for just that... to make a market

>>12333272
bonds

>>12333254
What brokerage should I use then?

>>12332654

The news redpill: it was priced in already before the headlines were made available to the public. Stories that you see on the TV or the internet are information for the masses, whilst the price mechanism conveys the information for the classes.

>>12333398
what ever one is good for you. everyone has different wants and needs... if you have a long time frame i don't think it matters desu..

Reminder: the 2yr-10yr treasury spread hasn't inverted yet

AAPL is totally fucked tho

>>12333537
So.... What you are saying is it gets better...

>>12333421
This must be realised first before anyone considers trading.

>>12333540
about damn time

theyve been on autopilot riding on their marketing division for far too long

they havnt had significantly good (comparitivly) hardware for almost a decade now

Why do american depository shares not display a dividend, even if the company has one? Is it just a broker error?
I'm looking at NSANY and NSANF on TDA, and TDA says NSANY doesn't have a dividend
Very confused, plz help

>>12333560
There is no replacing Steve Jobs

Anyone know of a service that let's you construct trading algos so I don't have have to waste a week of my life writing python that works on IB's shit api?

while you old fucks were playing with your little stocks I made 25% on LINK in 24 hours while fucking your daughters.

>>12333572
I'm guessing just broker error.. they should still pay you dividend tho...

You should always check OTCmarkets.com with ADRs imo....

>>12333553
I guess kek
We're not set for a 50% decline like 2007/2008 yet at least

>>12333560
I like the Mac Pro... that trash can thing is actually pretty nice.
They haven't sufficiently innovated their laptops for sure.

>>12333589
>not knowing that the perfect portfolio contains Crypto, Stocks (individual companies and ETFs), precious metals, and land

>>12333589
Great job zoomer! Now you're only at a 50% loss!

Some of you guys are alright. Don't look at the market tomorrow if you own any stock.

Happening thread will be posted tomorrow morning.

So long Bulls.

2 questions
1) Is "Synergy Pharmaceuticals" a good buy? Merrill Edge showed it as green and it's so cheap, you could buy a ton.
2) Are mutual funds really as simple as "pick someone to magically grow your money"?

>>12333594
Thanks! Makes me nervous looking at NSANY for a potential dividend stock if TDA doesn't recognize it as one, but every other source says it's about a 6% yield
weird

>>12333582
more like they cant make the next "it" thing twice in a row apparently

every services or product they make since 2008 is essentially slaved to the iphone, unlike when ipod and iphone were made, to fail or succeed on their own merits (no mac compy required)

theyve been coasting around their keystone (iphones) for a decade now, instead of looking for the next big thing, they are instead focusing on their current big thing to milk as much cash as they can from it

but their anti-consumer policies are growing too great for their marketing cult to overcome

>>12333597
apple has moved on from a hardware risk taker, to a software self wank company
whether or not the loss of Jobs is to blame is a moot point, they have stopped trying to get ahead of the curve, and instead begun focusing on holding onto the curve with a death grip

(also they have been neglecting their mac, and macbook divisions for years now, this is nothing new, in some ways they did it arguably since the mid 2000's (aughts) as they transitioned to portable hardware)

AAPL works to make their ecosystem inescapable now, instead of making it more enticing than their rival companies
it is a bad omen for their future, especially if they double down with excuses for why they arnt doing as good as they once were (muh china, muh battery issues), instead of looking for a new way to succeed (look at this cool new thing!)

the fact that the best mackintosh compy you can get is a hackintosh, not an apple product, is a small sample of how bad their problems have become on the hardware front

they rely on their marketing team instead of innovation, and that is a terrible way to run any company, regardless of sector or market

Shanghai mooning. We gap up today and close +5%.

>>12333607
nah just 128% gains in a year.

>>12333638
Chinese gov announced some stimulus related stuff today.

>>12333297
The problem with your scenario is that you can always sell at the bid price. That's the point of market makers.

Reminder that the only assured way to become a millionaire is to live no better than a stray dog until you're 60 and when you're on your deathbed you can finally enjoy your measly riches.

>>12333636
>apple has moved on from a hardware risk taker, to a software self wank company
I partially agree.
I think they still have taken risks -- the touchbar on the MacBooks, the trashcan shape to the Mac pro, the touch depth thing for iPhones... But they haven't really gone all out with a completely new product field in the way that iPods or iPhones did.
And yes, they do heavily rely on the fact that the Mac OS is just better than Windows, which freezes and crashes all the fucking time... And I'd be using neither if Linux could run the Microsoft Office Suite properly, but it gets hardly any support.

>whether or not the loss of Jobs is to blame is a moot point, they have stopped trying to get ahead of the curve, and instead begun focusing on holding onto the curve with a death grip
Half agree -- they do push the envelope a bit with the features that I mentioned above, but it's like they're afraid of failure in that they haven't tried any wild risks.
They even had that huge fucking pile of money that they completely dumped on stock buybacks.

>(also they have been neglecting their mac, and macbook divisions for years now, this is nothing new, in some ways they did it arguably since the mid 2000's (aughts) as they transitioned to portable hardware)
I completely agree with that.
I think it was pretty justifiable too -- aren't iPhones a tremendous portion of their revenue and profit?

>>12333636
>AAPL works to make their ecosystem inescapable now, instead of making it more enticing than their rival companies
Disagree. That would definitively be Microsoft with "embrace and extend" -- vendor lock-in.
I haven't seen much from Apple in terms of vendor lock-in.

>it is a bad omen for their future, especially if they double down with excuses for why they arnt doing as good as they once were (muh china, muh battery issues), instead of looking for a new way to succeed (look at this cool new thing!)
>the fact that the best mackintosh compy you can get is a hackintosh, not an apple product, is a small sample of how bad their problems have become on the hardware front
Shit. I should've gone for a Hackintosh.

>they rely on their marketing team instead of innovation, and that is a terrible way to run any company, regardless of sector or market
I'll agree with that too. But, they've always leaned very heavily on their marketing department.

>>12333589
Alright, but how are you going to cash out?

>>12332708
i have spxy at a stop loss at 32.80. what does that chart mean for me?

guy asking for a shill earlier, nvax been looking good as of late. Any more prospects here? $10k to invest

Any info on GNMX too?

fuck crude oil fuck this rigged bullshit ass nigger fucking market

>>12332708
whats this indicator called?

>>12332555
let's see what those annualized returns look like in 5 more years

>>12332238
I want her to sit on my face!

>>12333907
pls respond

>>12332654
China's stock market already collapsed back in 2016.
They hit rock bottom in 2018 and the only way they can go is up.

>>12333991
>2016
2007
2015 peak was lower than 2007 peak

>b*ulls

How am I supposed to tell if something is "priced in?"

>>12334179
If its common knowledge and in news articles or reports, its been priced in.

But perhaps not efficiently. The market is driven by emotions and they overreact sometimes.

>>12334179
Use your better 'judgement'

>>12334217
>The market is driven by shills and vested interests
Fixed it for ya

Euros pumping.

Suck it bears.

>>12333934

>>12334179
"Priced in" is a misnomer at best and is fundamentally driven by bunk theories. It's not really something worth concerning yourself with.

>>12334225
>>12334236
>meanwhile newest numbers from the eurozone shows growth is slowing down

>>12334270
>slows
it's basically stagnating
lmao at the fake recovery
they haven't even raised the rates yet
capitalism looks done for

>>12332654
Do none of you faggots at least skim financial news? This is today's narrative: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-04/china-u-s-to-hold-vice-minister-level-trade-talks-jan-7-to-8

If any you fucks think its a bear market still ask yourself why it bounced off support levels wednesday afternoon insted of breaking through!!!

so two months ago, people here were saying because of the yield curve inversing, there's a chance for a recession

may I ask why though? in the movie the big short, it was because of the housing sector. is now because of china and the manufacturing sector?

>>12334338
We don't know. It will be obvious in hindsight. If there was /smg/ in 08 I bet it would be full of smug bulls just like now.

>futures

WE
ARE
BACK

>>12334432
It is just short covering

could this market just sort it's self out or crash thanks

nooo i wanted more cheapies

Greedy bear faggots that went balls deep on puts and didn't take profits on suicide watch.

They a clinging on is the hope that the FED will hike rates or a bad jobs report. No matter what the markets will over react to get retards to follow suit and then take their money. Futures are up based on China having a great day.

S&P double bottomed off 2450 right at close yesterday. I'm balls deep in GE ($7.15) and NVAX ($1.65).

NVAX got pumped hard after hours because the phase 3 trials of NanoFlu got approved. NVAX also has a confernce at JP Morgan healt conference regarding RSV Jan 8-11. If the RSV data is good NVAX should moon.

I'm not 100% on what NVAX will do this morning after jumping so much. It has room to go up a lot if things fall in place. I have 300 shares of a shit stock I plan on selling today if it jumps back into green and doubling down on NVAX if it drops in price to around $2.

>>12334831
>They a clinging on is the hope that the FED will hike rates or a bad jobs report
contradictory, we want good jobs report so that the FED hikes rates

>>12334899
That is what I meant by bad, but just worded poorly and didn't proof read.

>>12334927
Funny thing is that if the job market has improved, the FED will hike rates - which will be bad for the stock market.
On the other hand if if the job market has gotten worse it will be a sign of a economic downtrun - and it will also be bad for the stock market.
Bears can't lose

>>12334975
the market doesn't wait for the fed to tell it if the economy is in a downturn. the fed is backward looking, while the market sniffs out the future. also there will be no rate hikes in 2019.

Greedy bears already getting fucked if they held overnight.

Don’t bet against the market.

>>12335076
And don't get angry at it when it goes another way.

The fact that all of the forums/boards have people out in force spreading FUD about NVAX is telling. Makes me think the people that shorted it are nervous about today.

>>12335035
>no rate hikes in 2019.
denial is worth more than gold to me

Last time mentions anything news related on NVAX unless I get rich or poor from it. Price target raised by Piper Jaffray Companies to $4.50. None of you fags can change the price for me so I don't care if you buy but things are looking good to make some $

>>12335215

I plan on jumping in at the end of today

>>12335232
I don't want anyone to lose money on it so watch it close. It had an ungodly amount of shorts before the good news came out. I don't think they will just give up their money this easy. If the meeting goes good at the conference I cannot see it not mooning but anything is possible.

CITI: INVESTORS SHOULD BUY THE DIP

are Krugerrands the best way to hold physical gold?

>>12332550
Look into Thinkorswim, I think it has what you're looking for

Bulls have yet to grasped the true nature of the bear market. This is going to go on for another 6 months. Save your money.

UPUPUPUPUPUPUPUP

>Better job numbers
>Trump and Xi trade deal on monday
>No FED rate hikes
Yeah im thinking we are back

>>12335427
I hope the job numbers are on the dot to what is expected. High numbers = bearfags think FED will up rates; low numbers = bearfags think economy is doing bad.

My dad really wants to start investing. Should I tell him to wait? I'm a beginner myself and started back in september ,when everything is at ATH and got fucked in the ass immediately the day after.

>>12335469
I would never hold off on investing. Best day to start was yesterday. Second best day is today.

>>12335469
Also, you don't have to invest in only stocks. You can invest less risk averse with a portfolio that is heavy on bonds.

>>12335481
Yeah but he's already in his 50's. He doesn't have the luxury of holding bags if he ever loses 50% of his investments.

>>12335492

>>12335469
Don't give investment advice to family

>>12335493
Look into mutual funds, bonds, CDs, and annuities. I would suggest talking to a professional as well to help if you aren't comfortable.

>>12335493
so go 50/50 stocks ($VOO) and shorter duration bonds ($BIL), rebalance quarterly. should the market go down another 30% from here, his max drawdown is 15%. make sure he's comfy with that and he should be good to go.

green as fuck day

AMD to the moon?

Bullish Bias.
Big Bull

Bulls are back, see you at $300 spy

Are the boys back in town?

What’s our target for NVAX today?

Is it going to get cold natural gas seems cheap.

>>12335638
I got in pretty cheap awhile back. I posted a little news above about it. It got 2 news price targets this morning of $3.50 and $4.50. A lot of people were shorting it before the news made it jump.

Hello! I am going to start investing once i gain some knoweledge about how the whole system works, so I borrowed an economics book from the library and it turns out it's about "macroeconomics". is this useful for investing? because all I have learned so far is about global trends and their effect on inflation

>>12335715

Mail it to Bernie Sanders and Ocasio.

>>12335715
central banking, inflation and the debt cycle are very important, so yeah desu

>>12335715
You don't need that shit. Just buy cheapie and sell them for more.

>>12335735
this guy gets it. economists can't predict the future stock prices, because if they could they would be professional investors and not economists. just BTFD

>>12335728
okay thankyou for the help. can you reccomend any other books for beginners? i want to read more books that will give me a general outline of everything so i can then branch out more into understanding different topics

>>12335605
>tfw 2016 just starting and im ready to make millions in crypto and my hot new arena shooter Battleborn!

>>12335744
Yeah Big5Guy wrote a good one, forgot the title though.

The 3m - 5yr just UNinverted lol

>>12335751
"How to make $1000 a day by sucking dick for a nickel each" by Big5Guy

Dude that guy that sold me his uso is going to make me like 20 percents.

HO LEE FUK

December payrolls 312K, Exp. 184K

>>12335740
I agree buying 'cheapies' is important. I'd just like to add 'time frame' for this. Time frame because it will give you a starting point for investing.

If you're investing today a daily or monthly time frame would probably be the best.

>>12335772
the asshole I sold my FVE to is piloting his Yacht right now

what the heckies was that
me just sensed great distubance across all markets

10000 bulls just cried out and then silenced...

FOUR RATE HIKES FOR 2019.

ECONOMY TOO GOOD.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-04/u-s-payrolls-rise-312-000-wages-top-estimates-in-jobs-blowout

>>12335789
They're just all praying to summon the Golden one.

Hey Faggots,

My name is Jerome, and I hate every single one of you. All of you are poor, retarded, degenerates who spend every second of their day looking at stupid ass charts. You are everything bad in the the economy. Honestly, have any of you ever gotten any profits? I mean, I guess it's fun making fun of people because of their gambling addictions on weekly options and chinese scam stocks, but you all take to a whole new level. This is even worse than buying BGFV at $9.50.

Don't be a stranger. Just hit me with your best shorts. I'm pretty much perfect. I am Chair of the Federal Reserve of the United States, and hand picked by President Trump. What investments do you make, other than "buying the LCI dip because of muh share structure and epic short squeeze"? I also get mad gains, and have a banging hot interest rate (I just did some rape hikes; Shit was SO crash). You are all faggots who should just liquidate your portfolios and apply for a job at McDonald's. Thanks for listening.

Pic Related: It's me and my FED Funds Rate.

>>12335793
>>12335801
He can’t keep getting away with it!

fucking lmaoing at the worthless lives of faggot bears

>>12335793
Holiday labor. Unemployment still up in the same report

>>12332571
Lol terrible bet, jobs are showing the economy is overheated

MASSIVE JOB NUMBERS THE GOLDEN BULL IS BACK

>bears

>>12335817

>>12335659
I'm in deep, have been for a few months now

Hoping for a moonshot but I wouldn't discount a plummet in the future should their vaccines not meet pre-set metrics

GREEN DAY TODAY BABY

e-minis haven't dropped that much despite increased hike threat. fakeout?

>>12335772
You're welcome baggie

* EUROPE'S BANKING STOCKS EXTEND GAINS AFTER U.S. JOBS DATA, NOW UP 3.1 PERCENT AT HIGHEST SINCE DEC. 19

>>12335921
me got super faked out, like BTFO ;_; never been btfo this bad, 50 point gap up >>12332708


NUUUUU

>>12335927
Bloomberg economist Tim Mahedy: "This is the strongest employment report of this economic cycle -- hands down."

>>12335937
YEAR OF THE PIG

Is there an Israel ETF?

Who /oil/?

>>12335953
spy

>>12335953
ugaz

>>12335751

>>12335962

Guys I'm a fucking retard. I bought a put yesterday in dow. now I'm going to get fisted.
Don't be a retard like me

>>12335744
for current development read the road to serfdom by hayek and The General Theory of Employment,Interest, and Money
by keynes
makes you understand that the "free market" and the stock market is really just a neverending line of government intervention (tax cuts, stimulus, interest rates, etc)
understand that and take advantage of it

>>12335997
You'll be alright. Never trust the futures pump.

>>12335953
https://etfdb.com/etfs/country/israel/

>>12335998
> The General Theory of Employment,Interest, and Money by Keynes.

It's really hard to tell if it is Communist Manifesto or this that did the most damage to Europe and USA, but then again, what's the difference.

>>12335943
>am going have endure this Year O Pig meme for next 12 months

> BANK OF AMERICA MERRILL LYNCH'S "BULL & BEAR" INDICATOR OF MARKET SENTIMENT FALLS TO 1.8, "EXTREME BEAR" LEVEL AND A "BUY" SIGNAL FOR EQUITIES - BAML STRATEGISTS

>>12335997
We're havin 2-4% swings intraday and before the bell. This happens in a bear market.

>>12336051
doesn't help if he gets margin called before we go back down

>>12336051
Only long, you can't go wrong.

more rate hikes incomming
bvlls BTFO

>>12336059
Don't know any broker that lets you buy options on margin.

2550 today 2548 close

>>12336079
any payday loan provider

>>12336078
money moving from bonds to the SPX is bearish? lol @ you

The shit stock I have 300 shares of just said they are doing a reverse stock split. They are up 1.58% in pre-market and I could sell and cash out now up 1.41%. What would cause it not to go down after that announcement?

>>12336092
That is the most JUST scenario I can imagine. Well done.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

BSX better fall some more so I can catch it.

>>12336116
kek

>>12336013
>>12336051
My trading generally does not go well lately, although I'm a bear. I really think this is a bear market. Still I missed so much opportunities. This makes me think. Yesterday I bought my PUT when dow was 23000 for selling when it reaches 24000. I hope it will be some kind of bull trap, but hope is the wrong place for this business.

>>12336111
you can lol as much as you want
you'll get POWELL'D
the lads at FED must be having a chuckle

>>12336114
meme speculators like yourself

>>12336114
reverse stock splits are generally a sign that you should get out ASAP

>>12336142
*24000 => 22400

>>12336151
I sold for a small profit of .5% on open. It looks to be tanking as well.

>>12336114
Like I've been saying, you should always go for the large-mega cap stocks with decent 10-day volume(3m+).

>>12336142
Bear market does not mean straight down. bear markets have more violent rallies than bull markets. You either need to be prepared to play the up leg as well as the down or spread out your entry to not get routed by rallies.

I am considering selling/rolling forward my monthly put options. If Powell doesn't tank the market at 10am, there isn't another clear catalyst until the end of next week with the China meeting and that is too close to expiration for comfort.

yeah, I'm thinking we are back

>>12336186
my dubs confirm

>>12336175
OZM?

>>12336197
One job

>>12336197
re-roll for the golden bull to S&P 4000

Banks mooning

Overnight bearfags that held puts on suicide watch.

>>12336208
>>12336197
Bearish.

>>12336213
nobody is dumb enough to short at the very bottom of a retarded crash for no reason, right?

>>12336213
I like this new meme

>>12336180
Spread your entry, I'm going in dry!

gold down 1%. investors realize there is nothing to fear. SPY $300 EOY

>>12336237
oh no no no no

>>12336237
NOOOOOOOO IT'S GOING TO CRASH AND I CAN BUY A CASTLE WITH A MOAT USING MY 1 OZ OF GOLD NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>12336224
Most people held their puts overnight because they thought the job numbers and FED would tank the market. This is after the double bottom on close @ 2450 yesterday.

I have money ready to enter the market but am going to wait a bit. I think the bear fags got some cheapies yesterday and will push back at some point today.

>>12336213
>holding puts

just buy inverse ETF's, no need to worry about expiration then

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA6id4--BDg

>are we going up or down

>>12336241
there is literally a 0% chance of a US recession when you are getting 300K plus job prints, if anything this signals an expansion

All the doom and gloomers were completely wrong, per usual

I told you guys we'd get them tomorrow!

>>12336253
Good, hope they lose their ass

P A N I C B U Y I N G

Congratulation to the winners (the bulls)

Bulls are best at the stock market, and in life in general

>>12336277
yes my man, this is correct

>>12336252
why not both?

>>12336258
good job dude, have a green wojak

>>12336253
>the economy descended from full employment in in 1929 where the unemployment rate was 3.2 percent into massive unemployment in 1933 when the unemployment rate reached 25 percent.

>>12336297
Keep coping beartard leftist

>>12336297
feel free to bet on that, post your trades

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQo1HIcSVtg

>>12336253
Except for the market tanking 20%

>>12336306
economy so strong it can't handle positive interest rates

Still time for bears to cut their losses. The squeeze hasn't even started

>>12336297
There has always been full employment going into every recession. In fact it’s one of the top indicators due to previous easy credit.
But let the bulfags have their day. The trend is down down down.

>>12336319
a gift from the market gods

>>12336319
you had the biggest companies in the world DOUBLE in 2 years, 50% correction is perfectly normal in uptrends

20% corrections happen all the time in non manipulated non-central bank backed markets

>>12336258
looks like your cheapies grew up

>>12336312
Dont be so wounded. Was just pointing out some hostorical info.

The market will speak for itself.
We're about to close a gap.

Hope you sold your bonds

>>12336319
>he doesn't know what a cheapie is
Never gonna make it. GEOTUS told you to buy the dip and there is no way he will abandon us working class people.

I knew I should've bought AAPL around 142-143. Data showed that it was almost impossible for it to drop any lower this week. Don't know about next week.

So when does Powell open up his stupid fucking Irish nigger kike mouth and send us plunging 1k?

>>12336346
your info doesn't mean anything and you should put every last bit of your money into 40 strike out of the money puts if you believe what you posted

>>12336338
Sold my bear shit, and bought into bull shit and I'm whale now. McDinner's on me buddy.

holy shit IQ is finally coming back to life

>>12336365
Be calm

>>12336346
Do you mean the gap in dow between 23300 and 23200?

>>12336360
5 min

>>12336379
not 30 min?

First up, then down for the rest of the day. Hope y'all ready for this.

UPUPUPUPUPUPUP

>>12336384
you're right, somewhere 10:15-10:30am looks like

live stream here, starts at 10:15

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okAIf5-BDAQ

This is the bottom. Final chance to load up or you will regret your whole life

Any live links for Powell?

live feed of powell giving us his 10 cents on further planed rape hiking on good job numbers
https://www.aeaweb.org/conference/livecasts/2019
bulls in denial
t minus 16 min

Really wish my stop losses didn't go off yesterday

>>12336404
>>12336413
Thanks

>bulls say economy and numbers are great
>bitching about JP ruining it by raising interest rates above zero

wut

In SQQQ at 16.90

>>12336405
gonna look back in a year and wish they bought this generational bottom

Bought AMD and put in a call $16.5 1/25

>>12336413
sold out just in case thanks for the quick buck.

>>12336422
yeah. if it's so great, why not perform shock therapy? hike to 2%, unload all $50 billion from the balance sheet. let the market sort out the mess

He was right
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/expect-more-1000-point-swings-for-the-dow-in-2019-mohamed-el-erian-2018-12-31

Why the fuck is MU growing now?

Pump it Nya!!

>>12336434
oh anon its much more than 50 billion.

>>12336251
leveraged inverse ETF's always JUST you if you hold them because long term there are more up days than down

>>12336413
based powell, crash this ponzi

fed funds rate futures giving a 0% chance of rate hike in march, which is the tail that wags the dog

Q12019 confirmed golden bull run

reminder that this is all begun with bernanke
thread theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3u2qRXb4xCU&ab_channel=jr508

>>12336427
just hold

you only need one +10% day to make up for 4 days of -2%

>>12336451
>buy on their red days, slowly (1 share a day or 1 share a week)
>sell all holdings when its +10% green day
>profit

its easy

Press D to dab on bearfags

>>12336477
>1 share a day or 1 share a week

>McDonald's up 1.65%
Dad BTFO

going to laugh my ass off if this is a repeat of the last fed meeting. Rally up and then shit hit the fan.

Not that this meeting matters. Just a round table.

>>12336477
>total smooth penis index

>>12336422
only dumb bulls think like that. the truth is that the market will go up regardless the numbers JP gives out. it's all rigged, and there's no reason to stop dancing on bears.

Reminder the yield curves uninverted today
Econommy is safe

>>12336502
With semitics, it is your defeat

>>12336438
points dont matter, daily percentages do

a +/-500 point day would be impossible before the 1990's

now its just fun market noise

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fAQhSRLQnM

>>12336489
makes it easy to double down in a day after a big overpump day

you shouldnt ever bet all your money on one stock or one trade

>>12336505
>he doesnt know

>>12336540
>>12336540
>>12336540
>>12336540
NEW BULL EDITION

eternal bull year of pig thread

>>12336538
>>12336538
>>12336538
>>12336538

Bought AMD at open and a 1/25 call. Nice and comfy

>>12336493
based mcdonalds poster

>>12336477
My plan for SQQQ is to sell if/when the market comes down to baseline by the end of today, which is likely imo

the fed will put rates back at zero soon, don't worry. then they will raise rates past 10%. screencap this if you don't believe me.

>>12336527
>child still giving out advice
stop embarrassing yourself

sell now or forever hold your bags

>>12336544
lol whoops

>>12336543
NUUU ME MADE MY THREAD 30 SECOND SOONER

>>12336543
>>12336544
It seems we have experienced a /smg/ split. Market must be really good. Buying more cheapies now.

Good things come to bears who wait

>>12336527
>points dont matter, daily percentages do

This guys gets it.

>>12336551
i just do
>40% portfolio in long term bets
>10-40% in short term hedges
red days mean my shorts go up, so i can sell for profits
green days mean my longs make bank, so i can accumulate more cheapie hedges

rinse and repeat


>>12336556
sure thing bud
>;)

>>12336577
it feels like a perfect split thread day, reunion around 4 ish to begin the weekend?

perfect shitposting day!

>>12336589
I like it. Still recovering from losses on China memes so sort of counterintuitively playing these leveraged funds as conservatively as possible for the time being. Looking to get into selling covered calls once the account is better built up.

This market is like a giant scraping machine. Every few days it just moves back and forth destroying positions.

>>12336832
It's more like tidal waves, but when it recedes you'll see all the pearls you can go grab on the cheapie, so you can get rich fast or you get washed out to sea never to be heard from again.

>implying today doesn't end in the deep red

>>12334338
China plus corporate debt. You can almost always be sure it will be a durable good sector since they are the most important to debt markets.

>>12335469
Tell him to invest in bonds and defensive stocks first, then add blue chips after they crash.

>>12337118
>>12337138
its dual thread day commie, migrate to both already

>>12336544
>>12336543
>>12336544
>>12336543

>>12335793
Ah hopeful my bet on inflation will finally pay off. The conditions are aligning right now to have boosted my whole portfolio by 1% this last day, and it almost never moves this fast since the bonds funds move slowly and the inverse ETFs usually cancel out the defensive stocks. I'd be very worried if I was you all.

>>12335722
Having watched more than my share of congressional hearings, I can honestly tell you sanders understands more economics than 80% of Congress. You have no idea how boneheaded these people are, especially the Wisconsin delegation.