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SSO AND QLD RISE UP

BUY THE CHEAPIES RISE UP BUY BUY BUY BULLS

>dow and Nasdaq almost done 3%

Yikes.

https://seekingalpha.com/article/4231224-investing-beyond-flash-dram

Semis are about to get shaken up massively over the next years. late 2020 or early 2019 is when the world will understand.

Silicon will be btfo.

MOTHER OF GOD

5% REBOUND TRADES ARE UNWINDING. THERE IS NO FLOOR BEFORE CIRCUIT BREAKER

>>12324914
PPT will save us

I fucking bought the VXX put and it's losing value guys, what do I do buy more?

>>12324897
wtf is happening? you guys told me bears were fucking wrong

>Longing anything in a sick, bubble economy propped up by paper money that came out of a printer

YIKES

>>12324930
>taking financial advice from posters on a chinese cartoons forum

AMD is getting destroyed

This is boring af. I want to see at least a level 1 circuit breaker

Short
P
Y

Long
C
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>>12324955
it's not hit my stop loss yet and it's not going to

Time to buy!!!

>>12324955
It deserves it. It's only going to be able to gain any marketshare during 2019 and early 2020, then intel is back on top again.

>B-But AAPL is cheap
>Another -10%
lel

Keep buying, goy. Surely this is the start of the infinite bull market.

>>12324966

Where is your stop?

>>12324970
Muh trillion dollar company

Bullfags on suicide watch.

>>12324979
You know they btfo when they don't even show up to post pink wojaks

This is the year of the BEAR.

Did you bulls actually think we were recovering last week kek

>>12324975
15.7

>AMD
not gonna lie. I was getting justed the past few days but all is well that ends well.

as per the last thread, if ETFs arent meant to be used for beating the market, then what the hell are you suppose to buy? Are you expecting every single NPC to research individual companies and buy them for decades at a time? Whats fundamentally wrong with owning SPY and QQQ exclusively and just taking the volatility because those ETFs will always come back as long as we have a functioning US economy?

AMD is GONNA BE OK

>>12324989
>AMD
Their board is selling off their stock like crazy.
$10 in 3 months.

>>12324988

That’s going to be the bottom

Thank you for your sacrifice anon

tfw sold AMD at 28 USD after Soros said he was going balls deep.

When Soros goes in, you know it's going to dump. Besides, AMD profit doesn't anywhere close to justify current share price. Gaining 5-10% server marketshare is priced in.

Ok market you can begin recovering now. I've taken my profits from shorting you. So start recovering so I can have a go with that broad from that porno flick.

>>12324930
>He listened to pendulum.
YIKES

>>12324981
does this make it better?

the day has just begun...

>>12325006
I don't know if that's significant. Insiders are always selling since they get the stocks as bonuses.

tHe MaRkeT iS cRaShInG

>>12324995

There’s nothing wrong with owning SPY and QQQ. But by definition, you won’t beat the market by owning them, because by owning them you own the market.

The only way to beat the market consistently is to dig deep and research individual companies. Mostly small companies that have tremendous growth potential or new, groundbreaking technology. You need to get in while the market cap is too small for institutional investors. The failure rate of this approach for most individual investors is very high, so the best avenue is to own broad market ETFs.

This happens when funds blindly try to invest based on"fundamentals" :)

>>12325033
If you're not beating the market aren't you technically losing?

>>12325029
If you're still a bull, you have to be retarded.
Do you not understand the significance of what happened to AAPL?

what period is an analyst price target even for? like on yahoo they have a consensus price "target" on most stocks. wtf

U.S. equity markets are structurally trash and deserve to crash. Everyone is either with a mutual fund thanks to enormous brainwashing campaigns or buying/selling in front of their order flow with varying degrees of leverage and hedges. No heterogeneity and that's before even taking into account the bots and laws written to further manipulate the tendency of the market such as PTD rule, short sale restrictions, tax incentives, etc. It needs to burn.

22500 today, <20k EOY

Sell gold goyim and use the money to buy cheapies.

I
WANT
CIRCUIT
BREAKERS

>>12325029
Filtered

>>12325046

Over the last 15 years, only 5% of ETF and mutual fund managers beat the return of the S&P 500. The odds of beating the market are against you.

If you’re getting broad market returns, you’re beating everyone that holds actively managed funds. That’s not losing.

>>12325078
Why tho?

>>12325085
over the past 15 days every bear shit has beat the return of the S&P 500. even the kid putting change into his piggy bank has had a better return than you. That's fucking losing.

>>12324920
I read a few articles from this guy and I think that he is overly excited for this tech. If xpoint were this revolutionary Intel would have detailed processor usecases to the public already.

buy TLT

it's ok lads I just got a call from my man at the PPT, they said 2450 is the absolute bottom for SPX. Thats a diamond infused adamantium floor at 2450.

>>12324995
>research
>he doesnt understand the power of chaos theory
>he hasnt embraced the random

yall need more brownian motion analysis

>>12325033
250 random (even weighted) individual stocks can outperform the best analysis in the world

you cannot beat entropy
Entropy enslaves all things, all phenomena

OH NOOO ONE TECH COMPANY MADE SLIGHTLY LESS MONEY THAN PEOPLE WERE EXPECTING, BETTER SELL EVERYTHING
PLEASE SELL I'VE LOST SO MUCH MONEY

Me a couple years ago:
>> Hey, I should get into nanocaps! Most active fund managers outperform the index, so the efficient market hypothesis doesn't hold and you can outperform the index without too many issues!

Me 2 years later: I should have just bought the SQQQ instead, it has held its value better over time than the nanocaps I bought, since all of them ended up going pink sheet on me, through pump & dumps or dilution.

THREADLY REMINDER THAT DIVIDENDS ARE YOUR FREN

aapl cheapies galore!!!

>>12325097

You’re talking about a different issue entirely.

I’ve been in cash since the beginning of 2018. I beat the market last year. I’ll beat the market this year. Market timing works if you know what to look for.

But when I’m long equities, it’s not individual stocks. It’s broad market indexes.

>>12325115
source of the graph?

>>12325135
i think you may be confused on what is going on.....

>>12325115
>looks at a chart rising at steady rate for decades and decades
Wew stonks sure are random who knows where they go

>>12325135
> One company
> 13% of the NASDAQ market cap

holy shit dude, when my vxx put went lower i just bought more and now that everything is rebounding off the low i'm making even more money than I would have been making had I not bought cheapies.

>>12325149
>>12325158
>implying FAANG correcting wasn't necessary and inevitable

Considering the importance of those companies and how they crashed, I'm actually surprised the broad indexes didn't crash as much as them. Quite surprised, even.

>>12325135
There he is.
Everyone point and laugh.

>>12325181
is the top 5 techies really half of the entire SP500

wheres netflix they should have a solid slice too

>>12325158
AAPL's p/e is 12 and its PEG is under 1. Its undervalued regardless of "concerns in china".

everyone realizes they're putting out this information themselves right? they've got billions of dollars they can buy back stock with and its easier to do so when the price is down. DCA on this up up to 200+ again

>>12325200
NOOOOOOO I'M LOSING EVERYTHING

>>12325181
well isn't that quite the misleading graph. no do it with all companies in the S&P 500

>>12325148
reverse image search

there are hundreds that show the same thing, random equal weighted portfolios beat basically every single stock market strategy, while requiring significantly less effort in analysis

through stoichiometric game theory all things are possible

>>12325208
your portfolio would be doing alot better today if you held some LCI

>>12325208
what a mess

Unstoppaple bears coming

>>12325208
>this level of denial

>>12325218
LCI has been doing good lately, I won't deny that

>>12325220
>implying I need to impress you

>>12325243
>LCI has been doing good lately, I won't deny that
yeah.. and it's going to be doing really good when it's back to mid teens

>>12325205
It also gets more than half of its income from a single product line, the Iphone.

Now consider that it has stopped publishing its sales numbers for that product, and that the way it is growing its revenue in the last few years is by just increasing the price, and by having software updates that intentionally slow down old phones to force them to be obsolete after a couple of years. And that the Iphone has a ton of competition from other manufacturers.

Apple has become cheap because it is a shrink stock, simple as that.

Tim Cook is more worried about monitoring his T cell count than his company's financials. Must not get good WiFi in those bathhouses.

So people who had puts on Apple are millionaires right?

>>12325135
Brainlet

>>12325057
What's wrong with mutual funds?

>>12325275
(((Entry load))),(((Expense ratio))),(((Exit load)))

>>12325097
i'm starting to see why people shit talk baggie.

>>12325208
What a loser.

>>12325243
Someone who regularly sucks dicks calling someone out for having a dick in their mouth once.
????????

Best tripfag: gommiefaggot
Worst tripfag: Pendulum

THE BULLS HAVE RETURNED??

>>12325243
You'd probably like it if you tried it you fucking faggot.

>>12325290
he's right tho...

>>12325283
What do those words mean? Dave Ramsey told me mutual funds were the safest investment

>>12325301
good for you, baggie
possibly, depending on the guy

>>12325298
>Best tripfag: gommiefaggot

Every single market down. Can't even watch this shit anymore.

>>12325314
Fees left and right. ETFs don't have that problem. And they beat most mutual funds in a given year.

>mutual funds were the safest investment
False. It literally depends on what the fund is investing in.

>>12325321
I've never seen him bing a bitch and his posts are at least medium quality.

>>12325298
yea no

>>12325324
Why not, it's fun seeing red lines falling like blood.

CZR

2019 the year of sports betting

What is wrong with the American President?

imagine being a member of family Ursidae

>>12325352
That's pretty funny, come on anon.

>>12325352
It's called a sense of humor, nerd

Food stocks Green

>>12325352
Normally I agree that orange man is bad but that one is pretty funny

>>12325352
>He didn't post that
>quick check..
Yeah he did, uh... Let Sanders answer for it

>>12325298
>Best tripfag: gommiefaggot
na, also define"best"
baggie is best all around once you understand his posting styles
comfey is best for shitposting on weekends
grim is best for relatable posting
2scoops is best for big compan's, and career info
LCI guy is best for sober analysis (with sometimes limited scope in stocks)

gommie is fun for occasional theory arguments, but he doubles down when he is wrong instead of letting the topic change

and of course rankings can all change with time

i agree with the rest of the post though

>>12325352
Republicans have been giving him cover for 2 years. Democrats now have oversight control and subpoena power in the House, and Donald is scared shitless that he might, just might, be held accountable for all the bullshit he's been pulling.

Short
P
Y

Long
C
I

is Senor Trump LITERALLY just shitposting memes at this point

>>12325352
My president is a giant troll. I fucking love it.

>>12325400
I'm European and I hope most ties get severed between Europe and USA, this retard is causing immense damage to global finance and economics already with his mercantilist garbage.

>>12325407
Whether you like him or not, he's always loved bantz.

>mfw all in AMRS
Lovely gains, how is your day /biz/? Are you winning?

Psst... it's gonna go to the moon when next earnings show how much they've made on their new sweeteners.
There's even a possibility of KO buying them out :)

See ya haters

Bought into the TME meme on day one.

>>12325408
The reason I voted for him.
Shit posting is going mainstream.

>>12325343

It's a waste of time. Not buying in till they're down 50-75 like last recession. Only worried they fall lower than that, sitting around watching will just make me second guess myself.

>>12325352

>>12325430
>I'm European
How embarrassing

>>12325400
as long as 1/3rd's of the senate allows him the house's dealings are meaningless

>>12325407
>is Senor Trump LITERALLY just shitposting memes at this point
>at this point
when wasnt he?

>>12325408
exactly, i think thats part of how he got the presidency (or primary nomination)

>>12325430
many americans want this too, and saw Trump as a means to achieve it

>>12325343
Its getting worrisome desu
As daytrader me am of worry when these bloody red knife days turn into squashed anime girl paste days

I
E
There no more volition for make shorts profits

>>12325352
am I a brainlet I don't get it

Fresh Del Monte on a mission

GE IS GREEN!!!!!!

>>12325352
Savage.... I love it.

We warned you bulls, but you didn't listen. You noticed a few measly days of green, and ignored the months long bear market trend, and now it's your reckoning. You're in bear country now, and us bears, well let's just say we eat bulls, so you better watch your backs.

You think this is the end? No, this is only the beginning.

>>12325462
Idiot Republicans think Warren isn't more Indian than average American.

PPT IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL

>>12325254
because profits beat expectations and people were only worried about iphone sales. the company has diversified vastly and most of its future income is going to come from services, which is growing massively.

>>12325466

>>12325478
that only raises more questions

>>12325352
BASED

>market gets bear'd
>low-key stocks doing alright
questions

Lol at this bull trap.

>>12325505
It's time to short or get out... I guess bleed to death is an option, but not for me thanks...

fill ze gap

Warren Buffet loved Apple in relation to their economics, planning, and stock. What happened?

>>12325449
>as long as 1/3rd's of the senate allows him the house's dealings are meaningless
I was gonna post something sassy about emoluments, felonies, and shame. But now that I reflect on just how much Republicans have been sucking on his wrinkly old dick, I would not be surprised if 1/3 senate give him a pass on all the crimes he's committed in and out of office. Only thing us citizens can really do is buckle up for the show, it should be a wild ride.

My five weed stocks are fighting in the green

>>12325352
Based and Redpilled

>>12325505
one single tech company missed revenue

>>12325352
HOLY SHIT

BASED AF

>>12325352
I'm not kidding what does this mean

>>12325111

Green close today.

>>12325543
it was very unfortunate

>>12325547
a democratic senator named Elizabeth Warren was making a big deal over how she was 1/9999999th native american

>>12325571
you're making that money on VXX puts, right
good job

>>12325565
GOLDEN close today

Keep buying go- I mean guys.
Recession won't come for years.

>>12325572
now she wants to run for president, doesn't she know we don't let women or indians become president?

>>12325572
aaaahh thanks

>>12325352
>What is wrong
>calling out fake virtue-signaling retards that were caught red-handed is wrong
out of here, s o y b o y

>>12325529
The house will impeach him, just like they did with Bill Clinton.
The Senate will not convict him, just like it did will Bill Clinton.
Political windowdressing nothing more....gotta get those donations.

>>12325582
yeah my GDX puts are pretty flat from where I bought them, down a penny or two.

>>12325584
We won't dump on you, honest, sell I mean ur buy the cheapies...

>>12325584
He must really be wanting to be on CNBC.

>We warned you bulls, but you didn't listen. You noticed a few measly days of green, and ignored the months long bear market trend, and now it's your reckoning. You're in bear country now, and us bears, well let's just say we eat bulls, so you better watch your backs.

>You think this is the end? No, this is only the beginning.

Nice Compassion guys

>>12325594
impeach him for what? there needs to be a "high crime or misdemeanors" and not in the sense of a normal misdemeanor. Clinton was impeached for lying under oath. They haven't caught Trump under oath yet lying. Teflon Don will escape again and be reelected in 2020 and RBG dies and he gets to appoint another SCOTUS justice and the world will be better for it

It's been a nice vacation, let me check on how my investments have been doi-

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>12325586
we don't let wh*Toid women become our president, warren isn't wh*Toid

>>12325622
We need an NPC red Wojack.

>>12325208
Thank you for showing up me tried emulating your posts >>12325029 you notant here but they no nearly as good

>>12325584
>2500 * 1.15 = 2875 = new ATH?
Good thing these experts have their math down.

>>12325622
SPX best index only down 1%

Whats going to be the best performing stock of 2019 and why is it LCI?

>>12325645
you'll figure it out in time
the smugger you appear in your bear mocking posts, the more you'll them off

>>12325097
>>12325307
in the long term, the market has always gone up. even if you bought the 3-month high, you will probably have profited in a year, and definitely will have in 3 years, maybe more if we go full recession mode. if you didnt buy the top, it will be much sooner, and if you buy the dip to cost average down, thats even more profit

personally i still buy some individual stocks for high div or if i think its undervalued, but sometimes that leads to me panic selling and reducing overall returns

what the fuck happened to netgear?

almost green day!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D4YrxWoEfg

>>12325681
so your saying we should just keep buying every month/biweekly no matter what

thats what i do, makes sense, my DCA comes down every purchase, feels good man

>>12325529
some of the more rabid democrats want investigations to be some sort of deux ex machina to undo the 2016 election, but thats delusional at best

>it is illegal for a sitting president to be prosecuted of a crime
>a 2/3rds of votes by the senate is needed for any impeachment of a sitting president

as long as 1/3 of the senate is against impeachment (2/3rds of any single party, since party whips get rid of the possibility of 1/3rd of each party) he will not be removed

while i applaud every bit of the swamp that the investigations drains, its retarded to believe it will end with trump in jail or prison

also a pence presidency would be far more scary to anyone who hates trump than trump's will ever be

with any luck 2020 presidential election will be between three viable candidates (either Trump as a strong third party candidate because republican party revolt, or a "moderate" republican running as third party (or a demecrat running against a dem ticket clinton, winning more votes than she gets, but splitting the vote in trump's favor))

also impeachment proceedings will hurt stock market more than any action that the president takes can
>>12325543
causing dozens of basket funds and ETF's to crash, causing every other company in those ETF baskets to fall aswell

>>12325667
>>12325645
piss them off*

>>12325699
pretty much. maybe occasionally shorting when you see something like last december roll around, but even that adds more risk than it might be worth

Day ends green look into your heart you know this to be true

>>12325725
That coupled with the IR hikes fucked over everyone in mortgages, bonds and CLOs.
The eventual fall in the USD will also shatter the already fragile economy

>>12325764
No!

>>12325543
Eh, Hassett also said in a statement to expect more guidance drops similar to AAPL, and US manufacturing gauge is also down. As usual zoomers don't pay attention to the news.

>>12325764
Yeah, it does end green for me.

CHOOO CHOOO MOTHER FUCKERS HOPE YOU BOUGHT IN THE DIP BECAUSE THIS TRAIN ISNT STOPING UNTIL THE MOON CHOOO CHOOOO

>>12325725
>>it is illegal for a sitting president to be prosecuted of a crime
Nigga what? Right now there's an old DOJ memo saying that a sitting president probably shouldn't be indicted. That's it. And seeing how he broke Federal Campaign finance laws for the purpose of winning the election, pretty sure an argument can be made that the memo is bullshit because what kind of banana republic are we if "it's okay if i break the law as long as i win" is set as a precedent?

>>12325775
Ah, yes. How could he have missed that sage Hasset's prediction? What a noob.!

>>12325215
Can I get a rundown of what this is saying?

Post yfw when Apple bonds get downgraded

>>12325810
>member of administration says something negative
>even ppt is worried
>red candle immediately afterwards

>>12325826
And without text. Any suggestions?

>>12325352

>>12325826
the cheapiest cheapies for bears are at the height of a bull market
we've already had a significant correction and small specs are significantly bearish as a whole, your chance to get cheapies was a long time ago

>>12325620
empathy is where it's at. compassion is for faggots

>>12325835
heres a suggestion: Get some fucking compassion

>>12325352
Just trying to bring everyone down to his level, like a contestant on a reality TV show.

>>12325819
not within a single post

also look up Maxwell's demon, for marginally related

So is it time to double down on Apple, or wait a week to let it hit bottom completely?

>>12325826
>>12325835
Doesn't make any fucking sense. Cheapies are for bulls.

>>12325855
We will have compassion. Yes... we will have compassion, when you and all your gains have perished — and the works of your quantitative easer to whom you would deliver us. You are a liar, bullcuck, and a corrupter of men's fortunes. You hold out your hand to me, and I perceive only a finger of the claw of the jew.... Even if your war on me was just as it was not... even so, what will you say of our national debt and the children that will suffer from it? When you hang from a gibbet at Wall Street for the sport of your own bankers, I will have compassion with you.... A lesser shortseller am I, but I do not need to lick your hooves. Turn elsewhither. But I fear your bull run has run out of steam.

>>12325885
*cringe*

>>12325868
Maxwell’s d is the god ODE right? Basically if you know the initial condition and the following trajectory, then you know the future.

>>12325901
>>12325855
Sure is reddit in here

>>12325885
He cute

>>12325885
this post am beautifully

>>12325876
bears can get cheapies too, but only when they cover.

>>12325876
Bears make money when they buy back the cheapies they shorted.

Buy signal

Wtf is anyone trading this? Does TA still work with this insanity?

>>12325925
Are you retarded? You literally make money by shorting

>>12325925
>>12325917
Then they become bulls.

>>12325940
>Does TA still work with this insanity
Nope you've actually got to be insane to do this properly. Lucky for me they haven't had me committed.

>APPL has gone down a lot, OOF
>better cut my losses and sell
>ok, lets find some value plays for the next week
>APPL looks good, better buy it
>realize what I've done
I'm fucking retarded

>>12325941
>>12325943
No. Bulls make money when prices now are cheaper than prices in the future. Bears make money when prices now are cheaper than prices in the past. Both sides want to sell high and buy low.

>>12325928
Did you already forget what happened to Apple when they stopped reporting sales?

>>12325943
You know you're right, after I close my short I open a long behind it to keep surfing this shit. It's like they say you don't lose until you sell, well you don't win until you sell either.

>>12325959
I mean AAPL :(

>>12325904
>>Maxwell’s d is the god ODE right? Basically if you know the initial condition and the following trajectory, then you know the possible futures.
fify

see also Bayes Theorem, Brownian Motion, Montecarlo simulations

or just zero player games (cellular automata)

>>12325940
TA does not ever "work", it merely explains past events, not future events

Is Apple gonna be alright bros?

>>12325916
>being this ESL

opinions on cytosorb (ctso)?

>>12325977
False. I win by collecting dividends, reinvesting them and growing an ever larger compounding interest machine that will pay me passive income until i die. All without need to sell.

spx is going to 3000 this year peons. Better buy now while the 10 year is beyond overpriced and money moves back. Theres my compassion

>>12326003
Be honest. Did you own GE when they cut dividends?

Cramer was saying this would happen to apple over a year ago
Buy the fucking Dip

>>12326003
Well if you get hit by a bus, you don't win and your beneficiaries end up winning when they sell. Unless you want to call the dividend payouts wins, in which case, I concede to your pacifisity.

>>12326003
If a company is correctly valued, and we assume other investors won't care either way, what do you prefer?
Dividend or buyback?

Think carefully.

Why the fuck is NFLX of all stocks in the green?

>>12326001
read the product page, it's pretty intredasting
i'd have to do more detailed DD to make a decision about investing in it, tho

https://cytosorbents.com/products/cyto-sorb/

>>12326003
aren't buybacks better due to it being filled as capital gains as opposed to taxable dividends?

>>12326087
well what if the dividend is payed into a tax-free account?

>>12325904
yes
Gauss was more ahead of his time, would have been interesting if he was born later

Rankine would have my vote for most useful analysis in 1800's though

Where is the anon who shilled OHGI?

I owe him a lifetime of beers

>>12325991
Can you just give me a one to two sentence rundown already instead of being an opaque wiseman/jackoff

How much do you guys actually make in dividends on your shares, and how much money are you putting in to get those payments? Seems to me that the earnings are negligible unless you have massive investment. I always figured that dividends were more of a health indicator for a company.

>>12326087
No buybacks are fucking retarded and dont mean the share price will go up. Look at LYG that does buybacks every morning

If you want tax free use a tax advantaged account OR buy a total return index

>>12326139
dividends are nearly guaranteed if you are buying the divvy aristocrats, and they are really low payouts compared to buying ETFs in exchange for the guarantee

divvy swill never make you 25% annually, but you will always make some nominal amount annually which is what is valuable in retirement

>>12326139

Dividends are a meme unless you have at least a million

>>12326139
Div is a meme that brainlets on this gay ass board fall for. It is equivalent to selling the stock itself.

>>12325584
why I always see the year 2021
what is happening then ? elections in US or what?

Why is volatility going up again? Did they turn the lunch bots on sell today to make for a better power hour?

>>12326219
Its called the 2 Skidoo
after 2 drops it does this bent thing before the bullrun

Enjoy your lunch as you lose money.

>>12326139
>>12326157
i want to be like whoever posted this

>>12325996
>being this new

>>12326129
small smooth change of one variable causes sudden rough changes to other variables

# of possible outcomes is greater than the amount of initial conditions, and the probability distribution of possible outcomes can be found, so probability of positive vs negative outcome can be found

>>12325871
def hold off i think its going to drop a lot more its going to drag the rest of the of the tech with it so you should be able to pick up the others cheapi aswell

>>12326244
th-thanks you t-t-oo

>>12326264
How is this consistent with your random stock pick claim?

>>12326264
Nice animation tho

>>12326296

That Publix chicken tender wrap was good.

Has oil bottomed?

I just reloaded my GDX position, thanks for the cheapies. There's no way anybody is going to pay $1,300 per ounce fucking ever.

>>12326046
Do feel free to post your eventual result.
...of cource the thread will have died thil then
does https://www.4chansearch.com/ work? are there slow/searchable /biz/ clones? Or are chans just the wrong medium for this kind of slower information exchange?

>>12325505
Which broker?

>>12326032
I don't understand why Cramer gets so much flak. He makes some pretty accurate calls.

>>12326139
~8.5% on the portion of my portfolio I dedicate to yield.

>>12325666
amrs because it will have been bought out by Coca-Cola

>>12325352

I don't think any one nominee can withstand the full brunt of Trumps shitposting autism. In 2016 he bantz'd a whole stage of people and brought them all down to his level.

>>12326372
is this because of the recent correction that the % is so high? presumably when we were at all time highs your yield was in the 5s or 6s?

>>12326368
If you make one inaccurate call ever than you're a fucking moron and nobody should ever trust your advice.

t. fucking moron and nobody should ever trust my advice

>>12326368
Its to trick small specs into thinking he's an idiot

In reality, every call he made 2018 was correct and on his theStreet show he passes a lot of secret info from his large spec friends

>>12326378

>>12325666
Its SLV, I'm thinking it could reach $200 this year because of increased demand from China.

>>12326409
>increased demand from China
why?

WE
ARE
BACK

>>12326392
No, it's preferred stock. I've actually made a small amount on the price increases of them.

>>12326429
Made me look/10

PPT will pump this to green by close

>>12326264
What fields of math does this fall under? Probability theory? Ordinary Differential Equations? Game Theory? Dynamical Systems? All of the above?

>>12326397
Yeah, I've noticed that he passes off a lot of insider information on the low. I've actually made money off one of his suggestions back in 17. He's been spot on as of late. The only one on CNBC worth even batting an eye at.

>>12326454
It falls under sophomore undergrad math...

fuck, should have listened to AMRS shiller.

>>12326475
Well, I'm a freshman atm, what classes should I take then?

MY CHEAPIES!!! NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

comfy in sqqq

>>12326493
Take your tuition check, wait for the bottom and put it all into a 10000x leveraged long position. Then just do what ever you want.

>>12326508
Don't worry, I'm already planning on putting a lot of money into market at the bottom(not highly leveraged though). I'm asking cause I want to learn(unironically). Money won't give you meaning in life, and I'll just wind up bored snorting cocaine and fucking hookers, not a good and wholesome life imo.

>>12326536
>I'll just wind up bored snorting cocaine and fucking hookers, not a good and wholesome life imo.
yeah, stay in school. Stay as long as you can.

>>12326536
If you’re paying for college out of your own pocket then you’re doing it wrong. Also you should be taking classes based on your career needs, NOT based on personal curiosity. Do that shit on your own time. It’s easy to say money won’t give you meaning when you have none and expect it to come easy.

wtf my cheapies just got cheaper

>>12326565
>>12326536
money, drugs, and sex is an empty and unfulfilling lifestyle
even though it's glamorized in normie media, most people wouldn't be happy living a life of hedonism

PPT got dumped on lmao

>>12326536
>he thinks he knows where and when the bottom is
kek

Is AIEQ still a meem?

>>12324995
Yes it's what grampa recommends for brainlets. Unless you want to be a pink wojak applefag like him.

>>12326596
Luckily for me, its not my pockets, and thanks to my generous parents, I'll be getting a good amount of surplus money every year while in college, which I'm planning to invest in a few years when market is coming out of the bottom. I don't have a specific career in mind, other than perhaps actuary cause that's a \comfy\ career. For the most part, I'm tryna find the shit that I think is most interesting and I'm good at. Plus, learning that will come in handy for trading too.

>>12326657
the best time to invest is yesterday, the 2nd best is today, next is tomorrow

dont wait just invest immediately, if your not needing the money for 20+ years then current price movements dont matter to you

im assuming your good enough to have iron hands of course

Trust the GEOTUS. Trust the PPT.

>>12326621
I always make sure to buy high sell low. The real worry tho, is that U.S. economy will enter a stagflation like Japan, and market will be flat for like 20+ years

>>12326680
Does that mean you are going to go all in or pull everything out?

>>12326665
Iron hands is a meme created by people who run ponzi schemes to keep them alive.

>>12326706
stop telling these kids the truth

>>12326607
You are seriously the King of Cope
Me am just in constant awe of your posts

>>12326657
Lmao actuary here. Would only recommend as a fallback bcz there are more interesting careers to initially strive for. Would not recommend if you’re brainlet bcz most credentialed actuaries are actually above average smart.

>>12326714
>>12326706
i know.. seriously.. wtf baggie.. you aren't supposed to tell them everything

>Bought Celgene because my friend said a huge deal was being made before Christmas
>Bought in
>Nothing announced and kept going down
>0.6% away from my stop
>Went away for Christmas shit
>Came back to 5% profit
>Kept holding and moved my stop to profit because rumors were flying wild about a deal
>Deal announced

Literally didn't read a word about the company, just bought the rumor.

>>12326795
Haha you should suck his dick haha

>>12326685
Rn I'm all out, except for a bit inverse etfs and SLV. I've been expecting a bear market/recession for over a year now, however I think its too early for it to be now. However, in a year or two when EU starts going to shit and, China is struggling, yield curve has inverted, recession is full blown, and I have a good amount of cash and knowledge accumulated, I'll start investing.

>>12326745
Everyone's got their own preferences. For some, the McAfee lifestyle is ideal, for others its that of a dictator or person seeking power. Others just want a \comfy\ life with few cares, doing their own thing peacefully

>>12326757
Its a backup plan for me if I don't get into grad school or find a passion. I'll take a few of the exams in the next few years, but currently my plan is to go into grad school doing some shit with some field within Econ or Game Theory. Behavioral econ/choice architecture is also very interesting to me, but idk any jobs for this

>>12326795
The SEC has been notified.

>>12326745
why do you think he is a faggot?
>"the world is mean to me but it can't be my fault!"
>"i know, im gay! a victim! thats why nothing is going my way..."

a mental disease indeed

>>12326745
Imaging being such a healthlet that you have both cancer and lupus

Could've made 21 $ from a 2300$ total investment, but decided to hold since one of my stocks is acting like a punk. Now I'm losing 7$. Do you think I should've taken the 21$ smg?

>>12326300
sound theory, and historical (accuracy foolish to assume it will always be true, but if a trend a few hundred (arguably thousand) years old is becoming false, then i got bigger problems to worry about than money)

assuming equal equity positions in all stocks consider two scenarios:
1. 100% of portfolio is stock XYZ
2. 50% of portfolio is stock XYZ, 50% is stock ZYX

in scenario 1, you need 100% of stock picks to be positive (increase in value by the time you sell)
possible outcomes are : 1/2 chance negative, 1/2 positive (ignoring positive or negative magnitudes (aka %change of stock's value))
in scenario 2, you only need 50% of picks to be true
you have three outcomes:1/4 chance you get two positive outcomes, so double gains (again ignoring magnitude of %change), 1/4 chance you get two negative, and 2*(1/4) chance you get one positive, one negative (no change compared to holding strait cash)
adding a third possibility, neutral (sideways), to each stocks movement over time, the total balance between positive and negative outcomes does not get unbalanced)

as you increase the number of stocks you hold (keeping an equal weight of each stock), your need to correctly guess if a stock will go up or down decreases as you add more stocks to hold
even as you strip away assumptions about magnitudes above, historical data shows that net positive is still the more likely outcome for a majority of stocks

based on historical movement, and because of the larger number of neutral outcomes as you pick more stocks, your probability of having a positive outcome tends to be higher than your possibility of having a total sum of negative outcomes

just look up random portfolios, google has plenty of examples, an I'm too lazy to type more

>>12326454
Brownian motion comes from fluid mechanics, so i guess differential equations
Bayes theory is babies first probabilities class though
and probability distributions pop up in many fields

I think Goldman just activated the buybots

Wow AMD got massacred

>>12326828
>Rn I'm all out, except for a bit inverse etfs and SLV. I've been expecting a bear market/recession for over a year now, however I think its too early for it to be now. However, in a year or two when EU starts going to shit and, China is struggling, yield curve has inverted, recession is full blown, and I have a good amount of cash and knowledge accumulated, I'll start investing.
If you can wait two years.
Personally I am still getting acclimated to the wordage and instruments available for investment.

>>12326839
well, $21 is more than -$7, so i would say yes

Reminder dividends are your friend in any amount if you activate DRIP for long term compounding interest

>>12326795
sir, would you mind telling me that story again?

I'm so glad I took that anons advice on HSGX last night.

>>12326828
>Everyone's got their own preferences. For some, the McAfee lifestyle is ideal, for others its that of a dictator or person seeking power. Others just want a \comfy\ life with few cares, doing their own thing peacefully.

I think it's a maturity thing, like I was like McAfee then when I got older I decided I wanted to seek power and be a dictator, eventually i'll become so apathetic I won't give a fuck and do my own thing some where peacefully.

>>12326871
new podcast when?

>>12326833
bro have some compassion

why the fuck is snap and ge up

>>12326099
Rankine has the best temperature scale for sure.

>>12326871
..... until you get GE'd

>>12326828
You have time to decide. Just keep in mind that upper exams are VERY time consuming, about 2.5x to 3x as long as your prelim Probability exam. It’s not something most people will be able to grind through.

>>12326884
L-lets not talk about that, the newfags don't know
>>12326896
You just sell if their dividend pay out exceedes EPS, silly

>>12326300
(from source of this image)
"The chart (it won't win any beauty contests) below shows the 100 random portfolios (black lines) versus S&P 500 (red line) and S&P 500 Equal Weighted (green line). The average random portfolio (purple line) is clearly outperforming the S&P 500. However, note the period from 1994 to 2000, here the S&P 500 is outperforming the random portfolios as the momentum factor was dominating and where rebalancing is not rewarded."

>>12326833
T_T

>>12326841
Thanks for response, I'm taking Probability next semester, and stochastic processes after that. There's probability grad classes at my uni which cover Brownian Motion, Martingale and Markov Processes that I'll try to audit later on. Also a mathematics of finance grad course that seems to cover even more relating to this

I'm going to lunch, try to make VXX and GDX go down as much as possible before I get back.

>>12326917
>You just sell if their dividend pay out exceedes EPS, silly
what about something like UNIT where EPS is barely above their dividend payout, but has been consistently?

>>12326952
>>12326952
>>12326952
NEW THREAD

>>12326935
Don't be sad, he's just upset everyone (appropriately) hates him

>>12326917
>You just sell if their dividend pay out exceedes EPS, silly
........ until you get GE'd

>>12326956
2 close 4 me, I personally wouldn't buy it

>>12326841
You’re just approximating a bell curve, which in your example tends towards neutral not positive. I’m starting to doubt you have anything reasonable to say...

>>12326965
You could make that argument about holding literally any stock, but if you used the div/EPS strategy you would have sold out long before the crash

>>12326946
I just know most fall into being gen eds for ME's, and extra theoretical physics (subatomic, and relativity) has only made it more redundant

throw in a couple game theory courses, and it becomes even more clear

>>12326977
no it does not approximate to a bell curve, using any/all historical data, it becomes a chi-squared or F distribution (weighed heavily on the positive end)

(black line is index's return over same time period)

>>12327050
rather than returns, wouldn't it be better to show whether the sharpe ratios of the randomly generated portfolios outperformed S&P 500. If these portfolios have far higher risk/volatility, then they aren't all that much better. Why not compare their performance to that of a momentum etf?

>>12327179
i gotchu famalam

>>12327172

>>12325046
Not beating inflation is the classic definition of losing.

>>12325352
squaw

>>12325584
The crash needs to wait 1-2 years so I have time to build up a downpayment for a discount house.

>>12326335
wondering the same thing too

Thoughts on holding through earnings on RECN?