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Bull Ran

COWS OF DOW

>>12269996
>right at the 300 reply mark

id complain more, but you have mellowed out the blogging lately

and its better than a turbofaggot (pendulum) OP thread

plus Thicc cuties are best cuties

>>12270046
>implying that's thicc

get better taste

>>12269996
Since it's the weekend soon all thread topic will be about is annoying crypto and tripfags yelling at each other.

See you faggots at monday.

What bank stocks are you buying before the market sells off bonds again? (besides bac)
For me its COF

>>12270060
Stop being a faggot and get an actual personality.

>>12269996
Buy SHLD, RAD, and JCP. All wonderful buys and definitely not some shitshow

>>12270060
thicker that the qt's that you never actually post
and RKG never posts athletic cuties anyways

also
>reported

>>12270066
basically, nice double dubs btw

>>12270060
imagine being this much of a faggot

>>12270084

I'm thinking about maybe doing that but I don't like the banks' charts so much. Maybe on Monday morning I'll see what the word is on the indices and maybe maybe. RBC up here in the hat did complete a long term double bottom a couple days ago. That might be something.

Also moo.

>>12270046
making thread 15 posts "early" *rolls eyes* am me price for MS painting /smg/ into anime images

its quite the burden @_@

>>12270060
this am really gross and thats comming from just touched girl parts to maggot corpse

>>12270066
good move, l8ter g8ter

>>12270104
>>12270087
>feeding the troll

although ill admit i made that mistake too already

;_;

but im out, see yall later when the thread gets less shitty (or during real nigga hours)

dont forget to report NSFW shit on blueboards!

>>12270136
yes, thats the thicc i was thinking of

assuming something that is two dimensional can even be considered thicc of course

>>12270132

Here's the RBC chart. It's a kinda maybe I dunno let's see some better consistent buy volume type situation. I'd like to see it break above the short term falling trend at $95.50.

Monday is open but Tuesday is closed, correct?

>>12270397
Market will be closed forever after I'm done with it.

>>12270397
Yup, trading is open New Year's Eve but closed New Year's day
It's to fuel extra coke and Champaign

>>12270397

Yes.

>>12270435

pic related

>>12270289
This Bank looks Dank
however it probably wont bounce as high as american banks assuming the treasuries get sold

>>12270540
>however it probably wont bounce as high as american banks assuming the treasuries get sold

True. When considering US stocks I have to factor in the forex situation. If the upside isn't amazing it generally isn't worth it for me to buy it. I could open a US account to avoid that but I haven't found it to be necessary as yet.

me had christmas promise only 1 beer day for one week, already relapsed badly. cant take winters anymore as you age

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MPZ99hvGqY

>>12270474

How do I make Soviet Union fascist in HoIIV?

>>12270634
By doing nothing.

>>12270622
>>12270435
PLEASE STOP BUYING
I JUST WENT ALL IN ON PUTS ON THE 24TH

>>12270610
Are you 50+ rkg ?
Won't tell anyone.

cash positions are great nao, prepared for further drawdown. january start will show direction there was lots of tax selling etc. before holidays nao it's been 10 years rally from bottom. real bull started only in 2013 tho, not inflation adjusted without dividends

>>12270677

You went short when the indices were oversold on the weekly? Why?

>>12270722
why do people keep thinking these posts are real
it was meant to be a satirical portrayal of the anon I was replying to

>>12270739

kk

>>12270739
newfags gonna newfag

>>12270692
RKG somewhere between 25-31

This thread subject wasnt as amoosing as thought

its seen but not heard

this am udderly problematic

me have never steered a thread wrong until now

oh well gonna milk this thread for all its worth

>>12270866
Isn't it pasture bedtime?

>>12270866
>>12270879
COW

>>12270866
>Stopped putting the edition in the OP
You're fucking everything up.

>>12270888
Trips confirm cow

>>12270866
I want you to bear my children

they should invent the Apple ihouse. Apple and google work together to create smarthome, the same size as one of those tiny homes, but its just a black Cube

>>12270924
sounds like a dystopian nightmare

>>12270782
Why do women always attempt to insert themselves into male hobbies?

>>12270866
you're making a misteak, stop rumenating about the topic of the OP and focus on composting the threads on time
it's not the content of the OP that matters as much as the effort that was put into it

(the rumen is the cow "stomach" where the microorganisms that allow them to digest grass live)

>>12270914
>Less than 50% of pregnancies in women with lupus have complications, but all lupus pregnancies are considered high-risk. Lupus can complicate pregnancy with an increased risk of miscarriage, premature delivery, and preeclampsia, as well as heart problems in the baby.

https://www.webmd.com/lupus/features/lupus-pregnancy-pregnant#1

>>12270634
why are you posting about a grand strategy game in the stock market general

>>12270956
two parts jealousy, one part ignorance, one part shame

>>12270084
>Australian banks are all down 20 to 25% because of the royal commission
FREE MONEY

now that the great recession of 2018 is over and the unending bullrun of 2019 is upon us
who else /retiring/ by 2020

>people think this is a bull market because of 2 green days.
We've had a terrible 3 months, the yield curve has inverted, the markets have been inflated by cheap money and there's still tards here who don't understand that the bubble is due to pop.

>>12271045
>the yield curve has inverted

the 3 year/5 year curve inverted, not the 2 year/10 year curve, which is the one that actually matters

>We've had a terrible 3 months
>hurr the market already went down 20%, this means that we're at the top and the bubble is about to pop

>>12271039
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbCk1XNfTs4

>>12271057
cn you point at time when 3/5 inversion didnt end badly for mrket?

>>12271057
>what is the last 5 years
You're delusional if you think this market has anywhere left to go but down. Look at the volatility we've had the past few months. It's been far worse than anything we've seen since the beginning of this bubble. The only reason stocks went up in the first place was because of quantitative easing. This is an artificial market and I can't wait for dumb tripfags like you to start posting pink wojacks when you lose all of your money and I'm buying cheap stocks.

>>12270956
why does society even have the concept of "male hobbies" ?

>>12270958
>threads on time
-_-;
why do people even care about this?

>>12270914
;_;
but we'll have retarded lupus babies
you'll be stuck working two jobs paying their medical bills for rest of life also >>12270958 it very dangerous for me to baby

>>12270898
me sorry ;_; dont have a cow

>>12271064
>>12271057
>>12271045
>>12271039
I dont think a single one of you fags has any clue whats happening in the market.

I think from now on we need to adopt the /fit/ rule of posting dubious advice which is that you provide proof of your gains. So from now on you don't get to make market predictions until you post your portfolio gains and prove you can actually make money on the market.

>>12271070
>start posting pink wojacks when you lose all of your money

will never happen
i will never post a pink wojak unironically, even if I lose 100% of my portfolio

>and I'm buying cheap stocks
I don't deny the market is late cycle, or that buying cheap stocks is a good idea
I'll be buying too if a bear market happens, don't put words in my mouth, faggot

>>12271094
>why do people even care about this?
if it's posted too early, a portion of the userbase will migrate over to the new thread a long time before the old one hits its bump limit, and then there will be two active threads of the same general
10 posts doesn't really make a difference, though, to be desu with you
I just don't think it's a good precedent to set

>>12271094
>why does society even have the concept of "male hobbies" ?
I hate you so much.

>>12270346
>As I've mentioned before, what generally gets moved in capital flight is money capital. Physical capital is much harder to move.
you forget intellectual capital, the knowledge and skills of those that get displaced

>Communism is about the working class expropriating the capitalist class, but it's not really about taking their money, it's about taking their role as those who coordinate production.
in theory, but it never ends up that way once one bad actor gets in the top (or someone in the top becomes a bad actor)

>The rich have destroyed the means of production in the past in large wars, but the kind of war that entails is less likely in an age of nuclear weapons and the level of state control that entails.
So far (but hopefully yes, thats what MAD is all about, and its worked so far)

>>12271039
>now that the great recession of 2018 is over and the unending bullrun of 2019 is upon us
how do you know this?

>>12271094
>that strawman pic

>>12271094
I don't believe you are a real female

>>12271094
>>12271142
>strawman
it's not misrepresenting anything or making any political statement, it's referencing a TV show, you nigger

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmP4DJO6IzE

>>12270964
Because the stock market is closed.

>>12271094
>why does society even have the concept of male hobbies
Because female hobbies are cooking and cleaning.

>>12271133
cool, you start and then show us what I asked for cuz theres no precedent for your bs

>>12271136
>I'll be buying too if a bear market happens
It's already fucking happened. 2 days of gains don't cancel out 3 months of market losses. If you can't see the writing on the wall by now you're fucked.

>>12271214
Your an idiot, anyone whose not 30% down right now is doing great.

>>12271214
You're not very good at reading if you cant look at the ids to see I wasn't a part of your dumbass conversation.

>>12271229
>It's already fucking happened

a bear market is defined as a decline of 20% or more without a recovery for at least 2 months
the market did briefly decline 20%, but it's already started to recover
unless it goes back to its lower levels and stays there for an extended period of time, this is a correction, not a bear market
i have a feeling that you don't actually own any stocks, yet think you're an expert despite having no real experience with this

>either get to sell off my losses on Monday for tax gainz or will make a profit before puts expire next week

Still /bobogang/

>>12271239
dw about my reading skillz, Im waiting for your bitch ass gains and proof if you can at me saying I dont know what Im talking about, provide some evidence or stay a fag you are now

>>12271246
If it doesn't fully recover in two months it's a bear market. We won't know for a while.

It's an arbitrary definition anyway. We've been on a downtrend for three months in a good economy.

>>12271274
I made no claims, you're the one attempting to pretend you can predict something no one can predict.

Please post your gains in investing showing that you have been able to beat the stock market. Wont reply until you do.

Does robinhood allow penny stocks now?

>>12271329
depends on what you define as a penny stock

>>12271325
lol get fucked gainless faggot

>>12271339
I just saw a few sub dollar stocks on Robinhood. I thought these weren't allowed? GSAT and WFT for example.

>>12271357
they are allowed, as far as I know
MNGA is available on robinhood as well
I think it's just select uber-shitty stocks like HMNY that robinhood doesn't allow (at this point, at least)

>>12271246
>a bear market is defined as a decline of 20% or more without a recovery for at least 2 months
thats right pleb
you are notant allowed for making independent observations about the market yourself
its not a bear market until weve dumped on you and TELL YOU its a bear market

Is this all that happens on weekend /smg/? A bunch of newfags arguing with each other?

>>12271397
there's also tripfags arguing with each other and movie night on Saturday

>>12271397
no theres also movie night :3

Can someone please teach me how to do TA and market research so I can stop losing money like a retard

>>12271410
>>12271413

Movie night? Do you guys know how much money you can make in the 2 wasted hours watching a movie?

>>12270607
Hedge your currency risk

>>12269996
Hello, Boomers.
Buy Chainlink.
That is all.

>>12271485

>>12271433
I dont want too much money, I might develop a complex

>>12271519
>/smg/
>I don't want too much money

Story checks out

>>12271519
I want too much money to sponsor a local cross country team and open a cat shelter

>>12271510
Its a free board. You dont like me here, then too bad.
Boomer annihilation coming soon. Stay tuned in 2019.

>>12271576
I was going to sponsor a local girls softball team, but my application got rejected for some reason.

>>12271576
me just want enough money for finance extensive guro / vore commissions
hopefully if make really really big money can get into underground snuff red rooms

>>12271621
youre a monster

>>12271621
>He thinks he won't be used in those rooms

can we just delete animeposters?

>>12271621
Giantess I hope. You aren't a degenerate are you?

>>12271433
I wish there was a way to make money without wageslaving.

>>12271701
You are literally in a fucking stock market thread. Thats how you make money without wageslaving.

>>12271133

Ha! Good luck on that one, anon. Stock related shitposts here are for artistic entertainment purposes, ironically, in jest. /smg/ is not responsible for your use or misuse of this information, however, we reserve the right to post smug anime at you if/when you get dumped on or short squeezed.

>>12271654
no :(
guro is pure unlike sex

>>12271672
t-thats not want me ment @_@

>>12271698
there some giantess in there
me will literally fund a guro/vore renaissance
will bring the love of death mainstream to the unwashed masses!

>>12271133
I'll be the perfect bear since all of my stocks have fallen off of a cliff.

I currently use robinhood for stocks and crypto but I want to seperate the 2. Is there any app that's just for crypto?

>>12271621
So this is what Tesla meant

Should I be happy that there's cheapies or sad that half of my investment is 50% down?

>>12271900
Both.

>>12271850
Get two real brokers lmao

>>12271900
Yes

>>12271900

CHEAPIES

Also learn some bare bones basic TA so you know to sell when key supports break even if you're a long hodler.

>>12271900
>half of my investment is 50% down
That's only 25% shut up

>>12271850
Is binance kill? Fuck i had like 30 bucks on there

>>12271142
>you forget intellectual capital, the knowledge and skills of those that get displaced
Most of that's held by ordinary workers. The amount of skills and intellect held by the capitalist class is greatly overstated.

>in theory, but it never ends up that way once one bad actor gets in the top (or someone in the top becomes a bad actor)
If you're referring to Stalin and the soviet Nomenklatura, this came about as the result of the leninist party that was necessary to win the Russian civil war. It's bureaucratic nature was generalized as the state found itself in control of most resources and realized it still needed to industrialize. This form of coordination was driven by a logic to catch up to advanced industrial capitalism. For the most part, the people on top were not bad actors, Stalin perused this policy with sincerity, even if he was chiefly concerned with his own self preservation. The crimes of stalin were chiefly the purging and murder of his fellow socialists, more than stuff that can be rationalized with economic necessity.

The soviet system was driven more by it's systemic logic than Stalin's bad intentions. The only real case you can find for that kind of critique is Mao's pushing through of the great leap forward, which was disliked by the bureaucracy at large and included many of Mao's own prejudices and incompetency. But the Chinese system was also far more decentralized than the USSR, in many ways, it was this decentralization far more than the inherit centralization of communism that doomed the great leap forward. It's system was less developed, and its logic thus less powerful. The horror of the great leap forward was perhaps more comparable to War Communism than the famines of the 30s in Russia for that reason.

>>12271142
>>12272041
Anyway, sorry for waxing on with that point. The bigger issue is that, within the framework born from the leninist party and semi-feudal russia, the USSR was characterized by a systemic logic in service of that working class. That framework is gone, and in it's place is the corporate dominated society of advanced capitalist countries. Working class expropriation in this context is the most healthy thing for our society, and the system it'd produce would likely be far more dynamic and democratic then what appeared in communist bloc.

>>12270084
Nordea

>>12271133
>>12271712
unfortunately the nature of predictions and the the difficulty in knowing the timing means that you can loose quite a bit of money before your prediction comes true. Up until that point, there's not much that distinguishes a genius strategy from a boneheaded one. Certainly you can even be up in the near term and still have a stupid mid and long term strategy.

>>12272083
>Certainly you can even be up in the near term and still have a stupid mid and long term strategy.

Yep.

>>12271784
Lmao don't tell me you have guro story boards laying or something.

>>12272114
n-no.....
who would do that hahaha.....

>>12272145
I don't say this lightly, but you need jesus. Or a cell with padded walls.

>>12270084
Added to my BAC position earlier this week

>>12272145
what is that even supposed to be

>>12272145
You should collaborate with ratsu

So what's the best brokerage app/site? I don't give a shit about research tools. Robinhood seems alright, but I heard you can't choose which specific stocks to sell.

>>12272233
>but I heard you can't choose which specific stocks to sell

I'm not sure where you heard that, you can definitely choose which stocks you buy and sell

>>12272242
Sorry, I meant shares. As in if you buy shares for $5 in January, then some more in April for $10, then when they're at $20 in December and you want to sell only the ones you bought for $5 in January, Robinhood supposedly doesn't let you do that and will just sell the April ones instead. Is that correct or did I hear wrong?

recommend me some books bros

>>12272267
How Not To Die

>>12272267
Ending Aging

>>12272259

There is no reason to separate them like that. Your cost average is your cost average. It doesn't change if you have a certain cost average in one account and a different cost average in another. It's meaningless.

>>12272267
Mein Kampf.

Actually no, that one's stupid. Find something else on the Jewish Question that relates more to America specifically.

>>12272259
Anon...1 share of a given company is 1 share of that company, they'll sell however many shares you tell them to. It doesn't matter which ones you sell because they all have the same value, the only difference is the profit you make given how much you spent on them. The market doesn't care when you bought.

>>12272259
nope, you can't do that in robinhood
honestly, I didn't know you could do that with any brokerage

>>12272267
Dino Buzzati - The Tartar Steppe

>>12272315
>honestly, I didn't know you could do that with any brokerage

You can't.

>>12272158
nuuuuuuuuuuuuu pls no straitjacket nuuuuuu

>>12272200
obviously the mad scientist lady is finishing up installing the neural interface (also toliet flusher thingy) that connects the human toilets brain to the artificial tongue installed into her retrofitted womb that is now a toilet bowl

>>12272220
ratsu would just steal all mu work and cut me out of the copy rights

>>12272267
Investing: A Random Walk
Non Fiction: Corporate Warriors
Fiction: Lord of the Flies or Fahrenheit 451

>>12272267
Contending Economic Theories - Richard Wolff
The Drunkard's Walk - Leonard Mlodinow
The Philosophy of the Encounter - Louis Althusser

>>12272259
W-w-what am I reading

>>12272306
The international jew by Henry Ford then?

>>12272367
Eh, I never liked that one. You could always read William Luther Pierce's theory on violent radicalization, even though it's basically him just copying what communists have done throughout the West in various minor violent conflicts. Maybe something by a King or something from medieval times.

Is it just me or are these PPT pumps weaker and weaker? Today they got smacked down immediately.

>>12272326
>human toilets brain to the artificial tongue installed into her retrofitted womb that is now a toilet bowl

are you into scat now

>>12272322
I've never messed with it much but vanguard makes me specify how to sell shares. Like first in, first out.

>>12271070
>Look at the volatility we've had the past few months. It's been far worse than anything we've seen since the beginning of this bubble.
This volatility is nothing. Have you ever seen the stock markets before the financial crisis? I wish commodities could be as calm as this

>>12272339
Ah well if we're including Fiction
Atomized - Michel Houellebecq
Reckless series - Cornelia Funke
The Diabolic - S J Kincaid

>>12272305
Here, let's try an example:

100 shares at $5 = $500
+
100 shares at $10 = $1000
+
100 shares at $20 = $2000

Shares: 300
Cost: $3500

Cost divided by number of shares is your cost average. That's be $11.67/share. You paid 11.67/share for 300 shares. Doesn't matter how many orders you made to arrive at that number of shares or when you bought them. 1 share as far as the market is concerned is 1 share. Not '1 share purchased on (date) at (price)'.

>>12272326
yeah that thing you drew is going no where near my charcters

>>12272342
Anon is trying to maximize cost basis for some odd reason

once you grow wealth what do you plan to do with it? I get living off of divis/gains, but at what point do you do something with the principle? you don't want to just live off the interest but die with a huge balance of principle do you?

>>12272512
Im going to buy a Giant Yacht

>>12272512
I'm going to establish a quasi religious crypto cult that assassinates pedos and devil worshippers

>>12272512
Buy abandoned missile silo, renovate it. Maybe start producing some movies.

>>12272512

Quit job, move out to countryside in comfy cabin/house with a lot of wood and brass and fireplaces and flannel bedding. Erect 'no trespassing' sign on property. Get some cute livestock that I will treat as pets.

I may not quit trading even if I have fuck you money though. It's too fun to give up.

>>12272512
Invest in transhumanist technology.

>>12272512
Lock it into a trust and have the divvies paid to my kids.

>>12272512
Hookers and blow. First i do the blow, then i do the hookers

>>12272614
Easy times make weak kids. Give your kids enough so that they can do anything they want if they work hard - but not so much that they don't have to work hard.

*Ahem*
Fuck niggers
Fuck Jannies
Fuck faggots

>>12272551
Comfy....... You're alright.

Funny thing is what the Brokers are saying is that right now the sharks are using this time to accumulate a large amt. of stocks to bait green newb investors
Then dump it at the arranged time when the recession arrives.
Robbing the public blind essentially.
This is the stage where sheer greed overrides common sense and most people lose their shirts through FOMO.

>>12272795
It begins.

>>12272512
Donate millions to charities/schools and create (hopefully) profitable businesses that hire locals.
Yet maintain around 25+ mil to keep my future generations in upper middle income

>>12272795
Yeah except based on even revised earnings the stock market is cheap as fuck

>>12272795
Just paranoid nonsense. The market is falling now, it should recover. When the recession comes on people will sell. The details about sharks accumulating for the P&D is meaningless, and would just include anyone buying low and selling high.

>>12272715
Sounds gay

Alright got 1k, what should I put it in

>>12272871
Don't make me say it.

>>12272840
That is what my brokers and my friends who are in the industry are telling me.
No need to shoot the messenger.

>>12272831
You'd always need good bait to catch good fish.
It is not bad to ride the FOMO, you just need the discipline/conviction to sell when the time comes.
Failing that, use limit orders.

>>12272755
The day of the rope is coming soon friend
And I know we'll be ready :))

Thoughts on $GSL?

>>12272529
This anon gets it

>>12272871
your ass

>>12272871
mattress

>>12272871
Dollar General. 2 year t-bonds.

>>12271900
You should feel angry at those who gave hodl advice.

>>12272641
"Easy times make week men" is the biggest fucking meme

We're in the longest history of peace the world has ever seen and everyone is better for it because we can invest our time in money into things other then killing each other like animals. For literally all of recorded history and probably far before that we've had "hard times" and all it lead to was slackjawwed imbreds dicking around while governments and nobility reaped the rewards. Then all of these fatass WW2 LARPers came and started praying for the world to crumble around them instead of trying to make it better. Meanwhile the rich and affluent will continue to profit off of the poor and stupid just like they always have.

Long story short fuck you

>>12273092
Peace is good for humanity, but rich trust fund kids are usually brats. Not sure if "weak" is the right word tho, there is a perverse strength from cruelty, lack of empathy, and willful self destruction.

>>12273092
I am not advocating for war. I want people to make their wealth themselves, rich kids are just giant manchildren.

I still think it is the parents right to give his wealth to whoever he wishes to give it to. I just don't think it is smart to bathe kids in gold and riches.

>>12273150
>rich kids are just giant manchildren
Poorfag cope

>>12273223
You got me. :(

>>12273241
S-sorry, I shouldn't have said anything

>>12272512
Get into illegal street racing and die under steering off a cliff during a togue battle

>>12272512
Move it to off shore bank accounts.

Some of you guys are alright. Don't look at the market if you own any stock.

Will post thread in the morning.

So long bulls.

Ayo SPY bouta finna get dabbed on

LEAN HOG HOLDERS RISE UP

the most based of all the commodities

>>12273377

ROUGH RICE IS DOWN

Should I go all in on gold miners?

>>12273092
Peace doesn't exist, whoever bribes the people still willing to fight the best, wins.

>>12273377
>>12273483
For me, it's orange juice futures

>>12272267
Only read self improvement shit. Politics/philosophy/novels are a waste of time.

>>12273693
Philosophy is good for understanding the world around you. Without a philosophy you're just another braindead consumer.

>>12273693
>2018
>eating anti-thyroid goitrogens(broccoli)

Take the Ray Peat pro-thyroid metabolism pill

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3zRPDWbjiw

Ray Peat(180IQ researcher with over 50 years research experience) drops the redpill on Orange Juice. This is fringe cutting edge knowledge which will be mainstream in the next 2-5 years, go long orange juice futures

I bought AMD awhile ago for like 10 bucks or something on a whim because I had just bought a Ryzen.

Now its like 17 bucks.

Am I an expert now?

>>12273708
My philosophy is that you're a faggot

>>12273708
Reading self-improvement will inherently lead to greater understanding. Reading philosophy to get a solid grasp on existence is like skipping a step.

>>12273717
I don't really drink juice too often because it's so high in sugar anyways

>>12273739
Skipping a step is sometimes necessary, especially when so much self-help is snake oil.

>>12273656
>gold miners?

Mining companies are among the sketchiest possible stocks to trade. Right up there with pre-clinical trial biopharma labs. If you want to invest in gold, as in invest in the enduring value of the commodity, you don't buy mining stocks to do that.

>>12273745
>Skipping a step is sometimes necessary

Oh man I forgot I was on the get rich quick scheme board. Sorry, I should have assumed you were retarded.

I bought back in at the close today. Did I do good?

>>12273771

Maybe. S&P broke out of short term falling trend and held outside it for close. Not out of the woods yet but this is a positive start. Next resistance levels are 2530 and 2600-2620.

>>12273665
based and Sasuke pilled

>>12270956
Attention

>>12270956
>cosplay
>male hobbies

>>12269996
Cheap tech stocks? I got SNAP under $5, looking for cheap crap

>>12274309
ew

>>12274671
Das it mane

>>12274309
good job anon.. under $5 is a good spot for that stock due alot of institutions trying to keep it above that for liquidity... i'm just pretty sure it break over the 200sma any time soon and it probably won't have any buy out rumor until it's around $1 due to it's O/S share count... it'll probably be a nice scalp.. honestly.. if i weren't in other trades i'd probably trade it...

Check out SN for a quick 1-3 day trade.. if oil recovers.. shorts are in a tight position.. the company has lots of revenue but the company all together is shit! the shorts have been hitting it hard as fuck.. i've been trying to hit the short squeeze on the way down with no luck.. only to break even... it's getting to the point though where market cap is going to get too small for shorts and the stock could possibly fly.... long term investment? NO.. i don't want anyone thinking SN is a long term investment.. they may have a lot of revenue.. like alot alot compared to their market cap.. but they have alot of expenses and debt.... Still could make for a very nice short term trade.... Just want to make it clear.. it's not a long term investment.. JUST A TRADE!! this thread seems to mix that up...

anyways.. sorry for rambling.. i've been drinking and snorting coke all night and some how ended up here...

>>12270677
Ok anon I got you
>Just sold 100k

>>12273754
Yeah its true ever since bre-x faked those core samples years ago and exit scammed people for millions.

CGA could be a buy.

>>12274918
CGA was green friday. Something about to change in that next weekly ?

Seriously though what about that china deal. On 27th they said talks are being resumed. This could be bullish on any stock related to overseas.

>>12274918
I could swing that

>>12274951
make me fomo in on the way up, and a happy a new year.

Should I hodl sqqq

I don't wanna lose it all

>>12274866
oof. imagine the just.

I had the vision anons. The european market is going to collapse in may 2019. It's going to be much worse than 2011.

>>12275394
what did you see

>>12275443
red world on the rise

everything was red

>>12270132
Mythra does make my dick act uncontrollable
How did Nintendo get away with this?

What kind of returns could you get with 300k?

>>12276086
-300k

>>12276086
At least 30-40k annually if you have a half decent plan.

>>12275394
>I had the vision anons
>I
[coughs]
really meow?

Who here /JUST'dbeyondbelief/?

>>12271045
>We've had a terrible 3 months, the yield curve has inverted
Wait until the other two curves invert as well. Bears are not hibernating this winter.

>>12272259
First in first out should apply as it does in all brokerages.

>>12276336

Me. Fuck this volatility

>>12276336
F

>>12275945
>How did Nintendo get away with this?
nips fertility rate is crashing harder than the bond market
nip govt will do whatever it takes to boost male virility
sadly, its misguided, as more and more yung men turn to the path of dreaded 2D and forsake qt3.14 nip gfs

>>12272840
>>12272831
>>12272795
friendly reminder that the economy only survives as we know it today due to quantitative easing, trump was literally elected to be blamed for the inevitable pop in the debt-bubble of "Everything" - he's a scapegoat - and politicians/rich/elite/jews/whatever-you-call-them will rob the public blind and suffer minimally as always
the story is always the same.

>>12276588
>88
well duh

someone want to check my maths. if you started with 100 bongs, and were able to average a profit of 2% per day at the end of the year you'd have 137740.82

>>12276644
just look up an exponential calculator or compound interest calculator

>>12276644
easier said than done m8
but yes that is how percentages work
fascinating innit?

>>12276672
They all make it too complicated. Simple formula is just this.
Money x (rate ^ frequency).

>>12276564
>more and more yung men turn to the path of dreaded 2D and forsake qt3.14 nip gfs
As god intended

Any opinions on consumer confidence dropping?

Survey was taken on Dec 13, before the biggest decreases in the market, and means the next report is likely to fall lower, signaling end of good economic growth, and undermining the "good economy" we are in

>>12276774
>god intended to wipe out the entirety of the human race w chink cartoons
sounds plausible desu

also
>cuckime

>>12276791
yup we just waiting for consumer spending to drop and then were in for it. BAD
still... all the hedgies that are trapped rn are gonna do their best to get out, so buckle the fug up for january imo tbqhwufam

>>12276588
growth cant be eternal, we alreayd exceed a the earths capacity, reality hits you hard bro.

>>12277014
This

>>12276791
there is not one data point pointing towards a recession, feel free to share one if you think you have it

Most of the people crying about some sort of hypothetical fake economic slow down are doing it for political reasons

Does a weekly .7% gain sound plausible to achieve in the market? Even if one does not trade options?

>>12277120
>Does a weekly .7% gain sound plausible to achieve in the market?

A weekly gain of .7% would be an annual gain of 36.4%, which is very difficult to achieve. The issue isn't that stocks can't go up .7% in a week, they easily can, the issue is that they aren't that consistent. What stops people from getting 36.4% annual returns isn't that stocks don't go up fast enough, it's that they also spend a decent bit of time going down. Even if you trade options or highly volatile stocks, over a long enough period of time, you're still most likely going to make incorrect decisions about when to buy/sell often enough that your gains won't be that high.

>>12276808
Ciovacci said in his last video he got stopped out at the bottom before the market reversed. This makes me the top bull now
spy 310 next year

>>12277120
just buy shit in 100 lots and write calls when vols hi
done
should trounce your puny .7% goal

>>12277074
You're not getting it. Data doesn't mean shit. Society is a giant game of make believe. Markets and economies crash because of sentiment. Did the data foresee Sears and GE going bankrupt? Did the data foresee the housing bubble? Tech bubble? Great depression? Did the fucking dinosaurs have data that pointed to a meteorite? At the end of the day the "data" is whatever the fuck we want it to be. Ever heard of cooking the books? Fundamentals can LOOK very strong, but right now people are scared as shit and the market is reflecting it. All you have to do is take a drive through and old industrial area to see what's really going on. Fuck the GDP and jobless numbers.

>>12273656
1, never go all in in anything, diversify your portfolio
2, it's a very precarious kind of business. Costs are going up all the time as it gets harder and harder to get the same amount of gold from the same amount or ore, requiring more expensive and sophisticated technology. The margin of profit differs wildly as the price of gold fluctuates. Even if, for example, a couple miners re-open old Welsh mines and score a lot of profits that way it will only come at the expense of their competitors. But if you only invest in them you're also increasing your risk with lower diversification.

In short, just buy gold if you want to invest in gold.

>>12277170
lmao no shit?
what a fucking pussy that guy is
we should raid his comments section and call him a nasally faggot

>>12277174
platinum > gold

>>12273693
Self improvement books are the most useless pseudo-scientific feel good nonsense imaginable.

>>12273739
Self improvement does not inherently lead to a greater understanding when so much of the genre boils down to internalizing psychological tricks and ""noble"" lies.

>>12277181
lol I like his voice. Its very smug when he goes Bullish.

But I can unbdersatanbd since hhe's dealing with like millions of his clients money. He is re-enetering, but only if this extends past merely an oversold bounce. I think it will since we have government help again

>>12277120
not likely without options.

How do I figure out which stock I should ride the wave for big gains like VTVT? Only thing I can think of is literally scanning <2$ stocks for abnormal volume everyday and trying to jump on them. But I'd like something more consistent.

>>12277165
Thank you, yea, I didn't take into account that it would mean such a high yearly %.

>>12277239
>like VTVT
>vTv Therapeutics

the reason biotech companies spike like this is because of fundamental catalysts like success in clinical trials or FDA fast track/breakthrough drug designations/approval
what determines if a biotech company will achieve those things or not is how well the science supports its clinical efficacy in whatever disease they're trying to treat

>>12276791
Well it's a sign that the fiscal stimulus from the tax cuts is wearing off, which will likely mean lower growth rates. The question is whether this will combine with other variables to produce a recession.

>>12276796
Didn't the Kill la Kill mc get together with the derpy side kick girl at the end of the series?

>>12277192
what makes you say that anon

>takes +100% gain to offset a -50% loss
what kind of jewish scam is this?

>>12277281
>takes 100% to save -50%
>Doesnt take 1% to save -0.5%

Explain this

>>12277120
You would have to have an impressive winning streak, anon. I suppose the way you'd go about it without options would be to invest in highly volatile assets and set standing limit orders to get a .7% gain after fees. The issue is you'd probably need a lot of money to do that, since fees for buying and selling would be about 10 bucks at most places, and robinhood has apparently been about exactly fulfilling these kinds of orders. But even then it'd still take a lot of luck because there are just some weeks that do nothing but go down. You'd have to be careful to minimize losses or else you would spend all your time just trying to dig yourself out of the hole.

If it was easy, everyone would do it, after all.

>the virgin stocklet
>the chad bond investor

is there any chance SPY goes down to 240 on Monday?

>>12277406
not likely but who the fuck knows

>>12277310
100 * 0.5 = 50 | /0.5
100 = 50 / 0.5 | [/0.5] is the same as [*2]
You need to multiply by 200% (same as 2) to get back to 100.

100 * 0.99 = 99 | /0.99
100 = 99 / 0.99 | [/0.99] is the same as [*1.01]
You need to multiply by 101% (same as 1.01) to get back to 100.

>>12277223
>I can unbdersatanbd since hhe's dealing with like millions of his clients money
>He is re-enetering, but only if this extends past merely an oversold bounce. I think it will since we have government help again
well at least youre not a wishy washy lil bitch like he is. fug im bearish macro and even IM saying that were in for a good bounce

>>12277269
>Didn't the Kill la Kill mc get together with the derpy side kick girl at the end of the series?
idk desu i just posted that cuz its funny
i only go for the 70s and 80s animus most of the time. with some exceptions like lain

>>12277275
all of muh research says that plat is bigger on the first bump going INTO the recession. you buy gold at the bottom of the big one™ and hold for the recession.

also, plat is more precious of a metal and lso has more industrial uses. until like 3 years ago, plat spot was valued higher thn golds like 90% of history. everyones been talking about the MS "whistleblower" who said that shit about the silver being shorted into nothing (smells like a trap to me desu), but unlike all other precious metals, plat doesnt have the massive infrastructure of shills trying to get you to buy it like gold and silver do. not to mention whats gonna happen when south africa (the cunt with the most plat mines) goes full zimbabwe.

the thing to be wary of is russia. if anyones gonna ruin your day its them as they hold the majority of it

>>12277310

>>12277516
hmmm thanks

>>12277552
I felt like me and ciovacci had the same macro idea, but he still sold even though mechanics say otherwise.

Anyways, here is some scenario I made here. I dont thin Powell will slow further than he already has. The technicals on this (accidently a leveraged bond but same idea)

In January if the Monthly bond technicals flip bullish (which they will if it breaks above that line) the Banks will Have a final flush out then immediately rebound and the market will go Golden bull

>>12277666
adding to this, Thanks to the Stress tests this year Banks should be a lot more stable than the previous 20 years thanks to rapid dividend increase, so its a safer bet than shorting bonds

>>12277693
Large banks, small banks are still vulnerable.

>>12277516
>You need to multiply by 101% (same as 1.01) to get back to 100.

But that's wrong. You'd get a value that's 101% of 99 which I can tell you won't be 100. It'll be close but in the market that kind of discrepancy can prove troublesome.

THREADLY REMINDER THAT DIVIDENDS ARE YOUR FREN

I’d get DOW 40K by 2025

>>12277707
Oh no! I rounded a number to make something difficult to understand less difficult (in an example no less!). Unless anon uses large margins, it shouldn't affect him at all.

>>12277666
good digits desu
seems sound
why not long both until that point and be hedged tho?
even a lev ETF for bonds is gonna move slower than the bank stocks. and if bonds DO do their fake breakout, then you can sell and have some fresh dosh to put back into banks

>>12277703
>small banks are still vulnerable.
by design
that was the whole point of large banks using small banks as a proxy for their risky loans. post dodd frank, large banks cant speculate on giving retards money, so they just loan big baskets of money to smaller banks who shoulder that risk for themselves. meanwhile problems werent for the large banks, AND they dont cross any legislation.

still, i worry whats gonna happen to our large banks when EU goes tits up. euro banks are still massively overleveraged and dont have anywhere near as many restrictions, nor stress tests to watch em. i shudder to think what most of their balance sheets look like pre accounting chaos magicks

dividends are for small-brained people that want instant gratification and dont understand how taxes work

>>12277780
>that was the whole point of large banks using small banks as a proxy for their risky loans. post dodd frank, large banks cant speculate on giving retards money, so they just loan big baskets of money to smaller banks who shoulder that risk for themselves.
Yeah, pretty much. It still won't be pretty when they all go under, tho. The amount of consolidation will be incredible.

>>12277795
Correct. Dividends are for idiots that never researched what total return means and how taxes work. All that matters is total returns. If you need money for some reason you can just sell things. Capital gains are more favorable than dividends except when you have low income. The majority of people are stupid though and like seeing "money" arrive in their account without understanding the implications. You should be avoiding all dividends when you're young and focusing on total return.

>>12277817
>The amount of consolidation will be incredible.
yup
this crash is gonna be large banks (who were swallowed up by central banks in 08) buying up the small banks they want, and large corporations buying up the small corporations they want. all for rock bottom prices

>>12277827
reinvest divvies from a tax advantaged account
problems werent

>>12277827
dividends are awesome I dont know what you Haters problems are. You can have a perma stake in a total return and hedge downside risk with dividends so you dont have to short the market or actively trade

Monday is gonna be red right? Me and my puts are done for if not

>>12277886
your puts are expiring worthless

>>12277766
Hahaha didn't mean to get on your bad side bro. It's just that I do most of if not all of my research on stocks through technical analysis. So when I see decimals being thrown around I get a little excited.

Most of SMG doesn't do this though unfortunately and prefers speculation on news/politics rather than mathematical work.

>>12277932
In many ways the algos will always have you beat with the mathematics. Qualitative changes are one of the few things they haven't learned how to calculate yet.

>>12272267
>An Inquiry into the Nature and Causes of the Wealth of Nations - Smith
>The General Theory of Interest, Employment, and Money - Keynes
>Essays in Persuasion - Keynes
>The Intelligent Investor - Graham
>Security Analysis - Graham
>Margin of Safety - Klarman
>Common Stocks and Uncommon Profits - Fisher
>Paths to Wealth Through Common Stocks - Fisher

After that, you should be able to lay out a solid framework for investing and can start reading mostly textbooks.

If you wanna learn derivatives, read Options, Futures, and Other Derivatives by Hull.

If you wanna learn Financial Modeling, read Simon Benninga's book, take Damodaran's classes from NYU, watch Martin Shkreli's finance lectures, torrent Breaking Into Wall Street/Wall Street Prep Premium, and read the Rosenbaum Investment Banking book.

>>12277946
Yes, Security Analysis brings this up often, although keep in mind even their numbers are flawed sometimes. CAPM is a bitch.

>>12272267
didnt see this
bosting the obligatory:
"the creature from jekyll island" by g. edward griffin

>>12272871
Johnson and Johnson

>>12277932
I mainly use numbers to see how justed I am kek. Surprisingly this helps me not losing more money and focuses me on compounding more. I found out trading on fundamentals (e.g. bear market) plus a gut feeling on trading patterns (never 100% relying on them) is my best success, but I still have to make up for my initial losses.
Good luck anon!

will I ever make it if i can only buy $1,000 worth of index funds every month

i feel like its going to take forever to reach 500k+ to wher i can convert into divvy yields and live off of them

>>12278045
You will make it. It would only take about 21 years to hit ~$500,000 starting from $0 assuming a conservative 6% return rate after fees.

https://www.calculator.net/investment-calculator.html?ctype=endamount&ctargetamountv=1000000&cstartingprinciplev=0&cyearsv=21&cinterestratev=6&ccontributeamountv=1000&ciadditionat1=monthly&printit=0&x=72&y=15

reminder that quantitative easing is trickle down economics for big bank$$$

>>12278063
feels pretty good, 20 years is a long time but i will certainly start adding mroe a month in the future.

if 6% is conversative what do you think is reasonable if i am full stocks currently? is 10% a target you can use in your math if i am currently slightly leveraged in the SP500 and Nasdaq? im like 1.3-1.5x when i add together my SPY/QQQ and my SSO/QLD combined

>>12278112
I would say 10% is quite optimistic but of course it could happen. When I made my financial plan I account for 3 scenarios:

1) Worst possible scenario. Some catastrophic global event occurs. 4%-5% return over my working career.
2) Most likely scenario. Similar to previous historic returns. 6-7% return over my working career.
3) Best possible scenario. Everything aligns perfectly/some new paradigm. 8-9% return over my working career.

As long as you have a plan for all 3 scenarios you should be fine. Good luck.

>>12278160
well im investing everything i possibly can each month, $1000 since i only make about 35-40k a year.

Im full stocks since im in my early 20s and i can take the volatility and i have iron hands, its certainly better for my money to be in SPY than in cash in a bank account, so im never capitulating. 4% sounds awful, i'd have to work until im like 60, and at that point who even cares? Can't do anything except invest all we can and hope for the best using a reasonable portfolio I guess

god luck my friend

wonder how high we will climb before the next leg down.

PPT did its thing already.

Trump brought in an investor who told him to stop tweeting/resolve the issues with china. low and behold today he talks about the great progress with China. Total smoke and mirrors but he's trying to pump.

I have a question. I am a brainlet so please be patient. Is it possible for OTM options to increase in value on the day of expiry?

>>12278160

>>12278269
d-delete this

>>12278269
we are talking about patrician tier economics, which is basically the US only. Investing elsewhere is a useless scam, everybody knows the nikkei is trash lol

>>12278276
:)

>>12278279
yes but we have now both nikkei and europe stagnated badly. time will come for usa too, not now yet.

>>12278269
But why and how?

>>12278279
this is exactly what we are headed towards senpai

>>12278269
You just diversify globally to prevent this. Show me the same graph using the MSCI ACWI index.

>>12278292
Fear not little flock, for when the gates of stagnation come against you, DRIP and compounding dividends will save you :))

>>12278320
you dont need to diversy that much if you know what ya doing, but if you dont you might lose lifetime investments

boldly making a new thread where no thread has gone before!

>>12278339
>>12278339
>>12278339

>>12278269
It's because nikkei pays dividends

>>12278269
Does Nikkei include dividends in its points scale?