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Is overpopulation making countries debts sky rocket and become poor? Would population control laws do anything to economies?

>> No.12244959

>>12244884
No, in fact population ageing is the main concern, new generations can't sustain the elders

>> No.12244970
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>>12244884
The real population control scheme is having no laws at all.
>No food aid to africa
>No food aid to the middle east
>No food aid to immigrants in America
>No food aid to immigrants in Europe
>No assistance of any sort to the seething masses of incompetents
>depopulate most of Africa and the middle East
>Modern economies unshackled from unproductive parasites experience explosive growth
Fuck it would be beautiful

>> No.12245005
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12245005

Bumming me out to think that white people are a minority in the world.

>> No.12245028

>>12244970
You realize depriving these countries of aid would only make them want to leave even more and cause a refugee crisis that would consume all of Eurasia.

>> No.12245103
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>>12245028

You would think so, but the history of America shows that most immigrants didn't make it prior to the implementation of the welfare State, their either died in the ghetto/as a laborer or went back home. It was adapt or die. Now it's adapt, or don't adapt and live off of whitey.

>> No.12245168

>>12245103
Their were far fewer immigrants then, and they had to cross on boats which made their entry into the country slow. From just one african country that decided to get out crippled Europe. All of Africa would panic and do the same if left alone.

>> No.12245183

>>12244884

Too many old people. Young people aren't actually encouraged to do anything with their lives. Infinite loans, nannystates everywhere, USA has been ruled by three separate clowns, China owns Africa.

It's all sorts of fucked up, honestly, but old age and ultra resistant bacteria and viruses will eventually kill off all the old fucks, which in turn will make room for young people again, regardless of what people want.

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>>12245168

>Implying starving penny less Africans would be able cross the Mediterranean without coastguard and CIA-funded ngo's helping them.

>> No.12245241

>>12245196
Why would the CIA care about immigration? The coast guard would be detaining them, but powerless against the hordes of boats, smuggled ships, and rafts pouring in. Just like with Syria.

>> No.12245269

>>12244884
The whole monetary system is debt-based, and its growth spiraling out of control can be interpreted as an inherent property of compound interest.

Let's say some business man takes a loan of $1000. Thus he receives the money but a liability to pay back the bank is created at the same time. Due to interest he has to pay $1000 + interest. So someone else needs to go into deb for $1000 + interest to pay the business man, but that person now has to make $1000 + interest + interest2. And if you continue this chain of interest payments you arrive at balances and liabilities growing at an exponential pace.

Now inflation counters this effect to some extent, and defaults can in principle also limit that growth, but one of the major changes of the past decades has been the declaration that many large banking institutions are "too big to fail", so the growth must be kept up indefinitely.

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>>12245241

>He doesn't know that most boats full of Africans only make it a few miles off the coast of africa before they are rescued by euro coast guard and government funded pro-refugee groups.
>Thinks Euros no longer hindered by the current legal framework wouldn't start sinking the few boats the make it most of the way across on their own

>> No.12245315

>>12244884
i dont understand why governments want to keep increasing populations. Especially in 3rd world countries. US basically pays Africans to have a shitton of kids through Aid packages

>> No.12245504
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>>12245028

They can’t enter if we don’t let them. Pic related

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>>12245504
as if our generation would be able to do anything similar

>> No.12245977

>>12245558
WWII culled a lot of the hero/bravery genes from the pool, on all sides.

>> No.12246007

>>12245558
Not really. Soldiers who lived came back to have 4-5 kids. Repleneshing the numbers of those who died.

>> No.12246039

>>12245977
I thought about this recently. Most of the ultra-masculine types from the past few.generations have died in war.

>> No.12246094

>>12244884

Yes, it would destroy them economically. See China, Europe, Russia.

>> No.12246135

>>12245103
>It was adapt or die
>unironic social darwinianism in the 21st century
We're going back to those time indeed which was the basic conditions which necessitated the current welfare state, assuming that the rich want to keep their heads attached to their necks.

>> No.12246153

>>12245558
>>12245977
>>12246039
Wars are elabourate games for the rich to cull the poor. Be glad its not 1940 because your shitty 10 BTC doesnt make you "the rich" faggot

>> No.12246161

>>12245977
>>WWII culled a lot of the hero/bravery genes from the pool, on all sides.
Simple darwinism at work as they say, selecting the genes that are most fit for the new age of peace. Need not be necessarily the strongest, or every living thing existing would be super gorillas

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>>12246135

>mild recession
>oops, better do literally everything wrong using central bank planning and confiscate gold so people cant subvert my worthless policy
>mild recession is now a great depression
>oh fuck, better join this war on the side of the communists to distract the plebs from how bad im fucking this shit up
>Americans now rationing basic items to supply josef stalin with war material
>wow these plebs think they are defending freedom and not my statist ideology
>war ends
>we gotta fight these communists by enacting giant bureaucratic welfare programs and enriching the military industrial complex

Roosevelt was a mistake, somebody should have assassinated that gimp in 1930.

>> No.12246286

>>12246251
>Roosevelt was a mistake, somebody should have assassinated that gimp in 1930.
I kind of wished that happened. He pre-empted a fascist/communist showdown from happening in the US when 25% of the population was out of a job and trust in the status quo were in the shitter. We might be in a very different world today if social democracy was allowed to collapse entirely and leave capitalism without anymore tools for placating the masses.

>> No.12246287

>>12244959
No, it's that aging population holds all the wealth and is making it harder for young people to displace them.
Look at any country that's experienced a baby boom. The old people don't know when to sit out. They legislate anti development laws and restrict opportunities for young people to acquire wealth as to not lose the value of their own.
In my experience old people are the most fervent opponents of minimum wage increases

>> No.12246452

>>12246161
I'm not sure if a pussified future is one I want to live in. Just because you want to hold onto your masculinity doesn't mean you want war; it takes bankers and politicians to trick us into going to war, they are the true psychopaths.

>> No.12246612

>>12246452
>>I'm not sure if a pussified future is one I want to live in. Just because you want to hold onto your masculinity doesn't mean you want war
If we do accept that humans work completely within an natural regime (whatever you may wish to call it, nature, human nature, etc.), then this isn't something we can actively work out way out of and only hope that the natural progress of human species develops into a species you would find more ideal.
>Just because you want to hold onto your masculinity doesn't mean you want war
Possibly, but this is something to work out among ourselves if we ignore that fatalistic view of humans I outlined earlier. There's plenty of people that's willing to go to war against the enemy, whoever that maybe in our day - chinese, globalists, jews, muslims, refugees, etc.
>it takes bankers and politicians to trick us into going to war, they are the true psychopaths
Yes, something for all of us to consider in the concrete, real moment when we're agitated against another group.

>> No.12246634

>>12245005
We were always a minority. We never exceeded ~30% of global population. The problem is that our technology and pathological altruism has let the number of nonwhites explode.