/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>12230018
Nope. 2015 was a deadcat bounce already.
https://www.macrotrends.net/1437/sp500-to-gold-ratio-chart

go back to leftypol or /x/ or hell or wherever youre from

>>12230018
>where put my money
>not crypto because we’re all going to die
Kek choose one faggot crypto is the safest option

>>12230018
>this is 19990 JAPAN bubble

Gold and silver. Silver is already being sold at the cost of production, it can't go lower.

In before
>but no dividends!

This is about protection of capital, not yields. Sometimes just having your capital return is needed even if it has no return ON capital.

>>12230018
CAPS LOCKS are for retards

>>12230232
>it can't go lower

People have been saying that for almost a decade now

>>12230281
Okay, I wasn't aware they could mine silver for one dollar an ounce. /biz/ is full of geniuses.

Just a shake out new fag

Dow 30k eoy

>every low iq retard calling a recession
>anyone that says it’s just a dip shouted down

not going to happen

>>12230333
Yeah so?

It'll go below the price of production because of all the morons who sit on silver as a store of value.

It's not like someone is actually consuming silver aside from it's actual industrial use which is a small part of it's current value.

>>12230018
Oh man, but I dont want to die.

>>12230018
>IS IT TIME TO BUY YUAN
China is imploding too. Look up china news and you will see how the CCP is struggling to maintain its facade of prosperity.

They've been faking GDP data for years, there are fake factories and fake workers which put on a show for foreigners and then go back to nothing once the visitor has gone. It was bound to catch up to them.

>>12230368
Too bad faggot

>Buffet is accumulating!

>>12230018
>19990 bubble
holy shit
did they short the quantum bitcoin 7.0 in the kike extermination anniversary of 17970 years?

>>12230018
>t. schizo

>>12230333
Silver can and will be mined at a loss for a while because mining companies know they can sell at a future date for 4x the price.

>>12230281
What an amazing coincidence! For almost a decade, central banks have been pumping all asset prices except precious metals. Now they are bringing asset prices down on purpose.

HELP........HELP ME, PLEASE

P L E A S E ! ! ! ! !

>>12231199
we got that triple double, well there is 3 things you can do, sell at a loss, short, use capital preservation in PMs or buy link i guess

Bitcoin needs to be in your asset portfolio
https://youtu.be/y1DSVIVsNIY

>>12230018
FED will lower rates soon, instantly re-inflating the markets.
this will create a 1-2 year long bulltrap - when DJI is @ 26k again and rates are zero - that is when you have my permission to panic.

The fed should instantly raise interest rates a lot higher so people can earn good monthly interest from the cash they made in the stock market. This would encourage saving and prudent financial planning.

SH, SDS, SPXU. Short the market retards.

>invest in Yuan
This American recession is actually caused by a great Chinese depression. The party is desperately trying to hide this fact at all costs. Where to invest? Swiss francs are probably a good bet.....

So basically if we listen to ppl ITT :
>gold and silver are shit
>SMG is about to implode
>crypto is russian roulette
>housing bubble is about to pop

I believe all 3 are true, but the real question is : IN WHAT THE HECK SHOULD WE INVEST OUR SHEKELS????

>>12230232
Bitcoin Core is being sold for lower than the production cost. So will every other fuckin asset. Silver Gold included

>>12231412
When in doubt, buy bitcoin

>>12231412
european housing in countries like the Netherlands never pops

>>12231412
cash. Unless you're in the UK, then just kys.

>>12231391
Let me clarify that the Chinese real estate bubble popping will be 10x worse than the crisis in the US and Europe was in 2007. Whole families save together to buy property in the city that are vacant and nobody uses to speculate that it will go up alot, but only in cities... eww... rural areas are icky! So that incentivizes cities to constantly be claiming more rural land to turn it into a residential to put a little cash in their spending amounts. And this that city property in Chinese big cities are 3x the price than San Francisco. It's honestly retarded that it got this bad.

>>12230018
How about usb

>>12231459
Crap I meant usd

It will be better to live in Japan when the global depression starts. The Japanese just stay in their room and watch anime and play video games when the economy is bad.

I'M NOT READY

>>12231450
There are lots of chinese, the population is huge and can fill cities

>>12230232
>Gold and silver. Silver is already being sold at the cost of production, it can't go lower.
What if people sell their gold and silver ? Nobody fucking cares about the cost of production it isn't a support for the price retard learn economics

>>12230018
>19990 JAPAN BUBBLE

yep, that will be the name of my band

im in japan. what this mean?

>>12230252
Yea, holding the shift key is the only way intellectuals type.

>>12231858
i'm worried Japan might stop making anime and manga if the economy gets really bad

>>12232019
>Japan might stop making anime and manga
Good. It's all shit.

>>12231839
Why would they sell during a period when everyone is looking for a way to preserve capital?

Supply is absolutely a support for a price. Supply on a long-term time scale will decrease if the cost of production is higher than the price. These are literally the basics of economics and you're calling me retarded when you don't understand them. I would argue that you are the retarded one and have probably lost a lot of money in crypto ponzi schemes. Kys retarded retard.

Are you all double digit iq?
What the fuck is so hard to see. The market is unstable, all it needs is a good push in any direction. My money is on brexit deal going bad and triggering the crash in the gbp & euro zones. Screencap this and repost it in March.

>>12230018

>Get a once-in-a-decade chance to build a strong high-dividend-yield value stock portfolio.
> Completely fucks it up, because he believes great recession memes he saw in a Japanese imageboard full of people who lost their money buying imaginary internet money.

And you really ask yourself why you can't afford to buy real estate?

>>12232114
>catches the falling knive

>>12232120

No, you catch the falling knife (f not v), you moron. I wait until we hit the bottom.

>>12230232
>Gold and silver. Silver is already being sold at the cost of production, it can't go lower.
Only in the long run (10-15 years). In the shorter term it's a signal for inefficient miners to fucking die because nobody got money for their expensive ass production cost.

>>12231697
The rural populating is poor and dumb as fuck. They can't afford xxxk apartments. Who will swallow the losses?

>>12231450
Point us to 1 of those ghost cities on google maps. They've been around for a long tome now, the decay should be visible.

>>12232130
>tries to time the market

>>12232247
>throws in all available goy shekels asap and hopes for the best

>Buying a currency with capital control
But bitcoins, you idiot

>>12231321
Stock market prospering while Trump in Office, just in time for his re-election.

JUST

>>12232906
>Stock market goes up
orange man good
>stock market crashes
Thanks obama

>>12232255
>>12232247
>>12232120
Broken record biz this ain't crypto faggots

>>12231509
Plus their 7-elevens put Burger one's to shame

>>12230195
Hey at least the human race makes it to 19990!

PLEASE NO

>>12230018
>WHERE THE FUCK DO I PUT MY MONEY,
We're not even at the bottom yet.
>IS IT TIME TO BUY YUAN,
Good question.
>IS AMERICA OVER!
No.
just
take a breath man, and/or have another eggnog.

>>12233966
Crash or Cash
I guess /biz/ never cash huh!

>>12234098
this is gold

>>12234202
true

>>12234098
why does the shirt reverse like that

>>12230018
From peak to bottom, the djia declined 89% during the great depression.

We're gonna see it all over again but with an inflating currency vs deflating.

>19990 JAPAN
Imagine the Bitcoin price by then

>>12231412
Clean energy, like windfarms or lng

>>12234533

Inverse etfs and wait for what you think is rock bottom and buy it all back up like a 20 year old Jew.

>>12234351
How long did it take

>>12234533
AI is working now. Do anything AI related instead.
Is wind a good clean energy source? I mean, it's ok. But what if you had a superintelligence focused on extracting the most amount of energy from a source possible.
Current clean energy is going to be laughable in the face of a god.

>>12231412

MREs

>>12230333
I guess you also aren’t aware that shot loss of silver is produced as a byproduct of mining more valuable metals

The world relies on US to buy their goods. Once USA goes down we all go down. Don't think this won't affect your country.
We can only hope the Chinese consumers take the place of the US consumers.

>>12232120

>Haha bro im a pro investor like i've heard a million times to not catch a falling knife!!!! Now i just tell it to eerybody so they know im a pro trader. I know my stuff.

>>12231321
I'm really hoping this is the case. I need more time to prepare

Friendly reminder to always do the opposite of what /biz/ says

>>12230018
>not buying monero

>>12231321
>FED pushes in QE4/5/6
Who'd have thunk that they won't let it collapse until they've drained every penny and are able to get out of dodge quick.

>put literal retard with countless bankruptcies in charge of the country
>surprised the economy is tanking

>>12235329
he is just doing what he does best
making money on bankruptcies

>>12235329
>implying anyone can magically save the fiat clusterfuck
the good news is you can save yourself in a post-bitcoin world

>>12235567
Any country that tries to adopt a bitcoin standard will get justed.

>>12231196
Oh you’re good.

This cracker right here called the whole plan (((they))) have always traded in gold and know in times of economic termoil it’s what the masses will chimp out on and all in yolo.

>>12231443
Of course it pops

>>12235567
Add a trait called 'price fluctuation stability' and put MED for gold, HIGH for fiat (US), and LOW for bitcoin

90% of my net worth is in the stock market in mutual funds and ETFs....should I worry? So far I'm only down about $100k since September. I held through 2008...strong hands here

BOIS, ALLIN ON SQQQ?

They say it's "the trade war, it's brexit, it's uncertainty" BULL FUCKING SHIT.

IT'S THE CREDIT BUBBLE. IT'S 10 YEARS OF MONEY PRINTING COMING HOME TO ROOST. EVERYONE WANTS TO GET OUT OF LEVERAGED POSITIONS AT THE END OF QE.

THIS IS IT, RIGHT?

Hedge with crypto.

>>12237452
This but its 105 years of money printing come home to die.

>>12231433
HAHAHA
so delusional

>>12230018

>19990 JAPAN bubble
>19990

>>12237452
Incels and lonely men, the 80% which is the majority of males... are a MASSIVE untapped market.

The demographics are ages 17-27, male, white/asian/indian. Generally wealthy as the asians and indians have been pushed into engineer and doctor roles by their immigrant parents. But they're too westernised to ever accept arranged marriage.
The problem they face is that Tinder and the 80/20 rule has made women hate them, and therefore they are lonely and don't have romantic anything.

You've got apps like bumble making things EASIER for women, but that's not addressing the big market.

Whoever can solve this problem, and generate a profit on it is going to be the next facebook. This is the largest untapped market since the social media bubble. The next Uber-tier massive app.

>>12230232
>it can’t be sold lower than the cost of production
>it just can’t
Underage b& pls go

>>12237452
what the fuck is sqqq
the more i try to find about it, the less i know

>>12237452
>>12237568

>>12237839
Triple inverse Nasdaq etf. If Nasdaq is up 1%, sqqq is down 3%. If Nasdaq is down 1%, sqqq is up 3%

>>12237452