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Inspired by WagyuLink Anon who predicts >$1 by EOQ2 (>>12216394) and >$20 by EOY 2020. I want price prediction discussions backed up by (((actual reasoning)))! Both bullish and bearish!

Now, without any change in the overall crypto mcap, in the current bear market, $2 would be mcap of $700,000,000 (7 hundred million) and put LINK at position 16/17 on cmc. I think we can all agree this is perfectly reasonable.
$20 would be mcap of $7,000,000,000 (7 billion) at position #4, ahead of bitcoin cash. If LINK really is the missing piece of the God protocol, if it really is used by hundreds and hundreds of teams in the same manner as ETH was last year, and goes on an ETH-like run, this is feasible.

If LINK makes it to the #2 spot right now and flips ETH and XRP, at a mcap of $17 billion, it would be $50 per token. Again this would depend on actual massive usage - which we have every indication to think it coming.

Now, thinking about changes in the overall marketcap of crypto - we are currently in a bear market (hopefully not for too much longer) so if we take the mcap of ETH at its peak, which was a mcap bigger than BTC is *right now*, that would make 1 LINK = $350. Personally I think this is the highest estimate that makes any sense, but I'd love to hear any arguments otherwise.

Now if LINK reached position #16 - WagyuLink Anon's estimate for next year - and had the same mcap as #16 but in the peak of the last bull market, which was $17 billion mcap, that would be the SAME mcap as XRP *right now* making 1 LINK = $50. I think this is the most convincing point for me and very encouraging.

So all in all, my price predictions are $2 for certain, $50 highly likely, $350 maximum but unlikely. Who agrees?

FINALLY, can someone post the LINK price chart which shows position on cmc versus total mcap of all crypto? It looks like someone made it in Excel. Can't find it in archives.

>> No.12222774

This is where you autists go totally wrong, no one wants to talk about price because no one knows what will happen. Stop thinking biz will give you any sort of confidence in you, your investments, ability to get laid, have friends, not eat tendies all day long, and finally, your ability to be financially successful. This is where dreams die.

>> No.12222804

>>12222774
Nolinker detected. Why can't you see the future bud? Risk/reward this is the best shit that's come along in decades, why resist it?

>> No.12222866

>>12222739
1000 EOY dude

>> No.12222978

>>12222739
I think your approach is very realistic, the big question is when? If the right announcements are made or it becomes obvious how Link will impact SWIFT's future processes Link could jump to $5 very quickly from pure speculation. If that has not happened by eoy 2019 I will be shocked.

>> No.12222990

>>12222739
Terrible math, simply terrible math. Moonsois go home.

>> No.12222999
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1000$ EOY

>> No.12223008

>>12222774
Pretty much this. Link mainnet will be the first coin in existence to be used in a business process. The influx of non speculative money will impact link in a way not seen before in any other coin.

>> No.12223020

>>12222999
>now I have to buy it over $100
I'd love to have seen his face when it reached over $1000
Also nice digits

>> No.12223032

>>12222739
>>12222222

>> No.12223040

>>12223008
The mainnet might have several flaws/bugs, what makes you think businesses will utilize it?

>> No.12223041

>>12222739
if you're talking price high's for LINK, then this will occur in conjunction with a btc bullrun, so keeping total MC of crypto constant is pointless.
with mainnet adoption and a crypto surge, you'll easily be looking at values over $100 for LINK sometime in 2019.
the only real issue here is whether you or i can hold as the price hits daily high after daily high. i'm not sure i'd be able to, 2b qh w/ u

>> No.12223065

>>12223041
If link moons it will most likely be in 2021, a year after the 2020 btc halving. Historically, bullruns always happen a year after bitcoin halves.

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>>12223041

>> No.12223082

>>12223040
>what are audits
>what is a testnet
1/10 try again

>> No.12223084

$1000 EOY

>> No.12223089

>>12223082
Still no guarantee, the audits are internal as well.

>> No.12223097

>>12223089
Wrong. Audits are eternal.

>> No.12223098

>>12223040
It might. But you can say the same about any other coin. The difference between link and any other coin is that it will have business users when mainnet launches.
Businesses will use it because it furfills a business need, which is the trustless delivery of data to the blockchain. Businesses will use it because its there is no other coin/company that can compete with it right now. If all of that isn't enough, businesses will use it because they themselves said so. Look at the "partner" list for link. They are all users.

>> No.12223106

>>12223065
the european fintech regulations, which LINK is primed to capitalize from, should hit b4 2021, but yeah, the halfening with help every coin still around at that time.

>> No.12223114

>>12222739
>but thats not what I signed up for, I-we've been doing this for a little over 5 years.
>our smartcontracts are in audit

https://youtu.be/XYiEPFRHV9A

Start that at the 35min mark and watch.

Chainlink has been in development for over 5 years, despite being tokenized in 2017. I think Kobe beef LARP is right that the mainnet is very very soon.

For speculation, if it is able to take ETHs old market cap I see it at ~220 a token. Which is very plausible if 60 plus is staked as some Delphi estimates are.

>> No.12223117

I only have 50k Link which is nowhere near enough to actually make it.

All these Linklets with 10k stacks singing about 1k eoy are starting to piss me off with their propaganda. It was a joke and they are actually believing it and causing FOMO in newfags preventing the dump. I need to make it to 100k before mainnet for fucks sake. Link is only going to $20 max. Right now I might make 1MM before tax on that, but tax will take a big chunk out of that then inflation will fucking ruin me over the next decade.

Even if I chuck the 1MM into a dividend stock that pays out well and I get 70k a year of it, it's not enough to beat inflation unless I basically live in poverty as a neet and keep my wagecuck job in the meantime so I don't have to sell any retirement Link. In 10 years that 70k a year will feel like 20k a year. You need a minimum of 2MM, but more likely 3MM to make it. The upper predictions for Link where about $60 but that was made during the bullrun of last year, and it assumed that the overall crypto market cap would still be expanding and BTC would go on to 1MM a Bitcoin and that we would be in a full blown crypto FOMO hype bubble when mainnet came out and we got our price singularity. All of that isn't going to happen anymore.

The singularity is cancelled. Now we will have a slow growth to $20. And the sad but ironic thing is most people on this board will hold from 50 cents, to $20 and then hold all the way back to sub $1 again because you all believe the 1k eoy memes, and just like the retards who held BTC and didn't sell at 19k, you will do the same with Link at $20. Looking at the current charts depresses the fuck out of me when I know I only have 50k Link, nowhere near enough to make it.

At best I will have 1-2 sweet years, and then return to wagecucking after that. But it will be worse because I will have tasted freedom and know what I am missing out on.

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i just dont understand why people dont think a speculative rush is possible. Theres been complete shitcoins that have reached billions in mcap with nothing to show for it. To completely disregard this chance is silly. And just like the other anon said this is SO speculative that it kinda is pointless to talk about. We can dream i guess. The ONLY thing that is 100% certain is that link is def worth waaaay more than it is right now. Im comfy with knowing just that

>> No.12223155

>>12223123
there'll be a large inflow of money into LINK from all the shit coins people are still holding right now.
just think of combining the MC's of the 20 coins above LINK and the 20 below, to give just a conservative idea, and that money being used to buy LINK. and that'll only be the beginning.....

>> No.12223179

>>12223123
It's stupid to even try to guess at what the price will be.

The real question is how many transactions per day can we expect? What is the dollar value of those transactions? I'm not even thinking of selling until LINK is handling trilions of dollars per day, Given what the improvements that this tech brings to market over tradional digital agreements, I don't think this is unrealistic at all. From there, we can come up with a much more accruate valuation of LINK's potential, much more so than saying 'oh the market cap of X on Y date was Z therefor LINK will be $20".

>> No.12223202

>>12223179
Because link has the potential to capture so much of the oracle market, its safe to say that whatever the price is 2020, it'll have a good decade of growth ahead of it. This is assuming link catches on.

>> No.12223212

>>12223117
every link thread has this pasta lmao

>> No.12223215

>>12223179
Blythe said we are still approximate 4-5 years away from the initial stages of removing traditional digits agreements and into the blockchain space. She has said many times people should be serious about blockchain like the Internet in the 90s. But why did she leave. Was she part of this pump and dump.

>> No.12223325

>>12222999
Checked, we’re still on the $1,000 eoy timeline

>> No.12223350

>>12223032
That's stocks dum dum

>> No.12223391

>>12222739
Can we start pumping today pls

>> No.12223392
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>>12223179
I remember an anon did that research like actually knew the range od how much api's calls costed, and how many times a years that calls totaled and he got some high numbers for token value. How certain those numbers were is still speculative but gave us a real world estimate. What i think we forget too is link can effect every industry, not just one. So if we capture even a slight percentage of an industries mcap the token value would be super high. Now just think if we capture a slight percentage of several industries. This is what needs to "click" for people. People need to realize link can change how ALL digital agreements are made and met. There is without a question automation happening in this world and its getting bigger, link ia literally needed to take this automation to the next level.

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>>12223392

>> No.12223460

>>12223391
i hope we see something within the next 3 or 4 hours, bull flag is almost done consolidating over a falling wedge on the daily but TA on low volume is voodoo so who knows

>> No.12223471

>>12223417
it's bullshit. jonny stated that there is no need to provide full colleteral

>> No.12223502

WagyuLink is a larp that knows nothing and is fucking with you.

>> No.12223512

>>12222739
It's going to dump again before 38 while the same scammy loosers steal from the desperate and when it's back in the 20s they will buy it back and repeat.Longest running pnd scam in crypto and on this board.It can be hard to grasp just how useless and desperate the people involved are but it's a help to beging by understanding they are junkies

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>>12223471
Its all speculative even what john says. What we do know is if link captures just .01% of the main industries it can effect then the token value will be thru the roof.

>> No.12223574

Id love link to be 100$ in 2019 sometime how likely

what needs to happen for 100$

please jesus Ive already been poor a lifetime

>> No.12223586

>>12223069
10/10 masterpiece film by the way, seen it yesterday

>> No.12223591

>>12223557
maybe more like .1% to be safe lol

>> No.12223595

>>12222999
A... Are those trips and a goddamn QUAD? We're literally ALL going to make it with 1k suicide stack

>> No.12223608

>>12223574
nobody knows stop asking and do something useful like shill link to developers

>> No.12223614

>>12222999
Checked

>> No.12223625

>>12223097
You understand me, senpai.

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>>12222739
This??

>> No.12223639

>>12223460
I just bought more with ETH. The ratio is juicy AF right now.

>> No.12223644

>>12222804
What's going on here seriously reminds e of heroine addicts "chasing the dragon".

>> No.12223650

>>12223114
>Which is very plausible if 60 plus is staked as some Delphi estimates are.
what?

>> No.12223689
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>> No.12223719

>>12223689
fuck!

>> No.12223723

>>12223644
>Buying the stock before it becomes public
>"HOW COULD YOU IDIOTS KEEP THINKING THIS WILL WORK IF IT HASN'T ALREADY?!"
Because it hasn't gone public yet.

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12223736

>>12223719
Merry Christmas frens. Some good ol comfy marine reads

>> No.12223768

you guys seem pretty confident that your ERC token is with the 10 out of 2540 coins to actually deliver a good product. While they are pretty fucking vague about it all.

>> No.12223781

>>12223768
Their purchase of TownCrier confirmed for me that there actually is a lot going on behind the scenes. If they're making big business deals and not advertising anything, that is the most bullish signal I've ever seen.

>> No.12223809

>>12223781
I don't think a lot of anons really realized the significance of the TownCrier acquisition.

>> No.12223835

Welp, my prediction is that it will hit .37 cents by tomorrow and ill buy a ton of Link again and THEN it will finally drop back to .29 cents and Ill sell before its too late.

>> No.12223884

>>12223809
Buying Town Crier was like if Henry Ford had locked down the patent for asphalt before releasing his first model T. Insanely forward-thinking and almost guaranteeing a monopoly on cryptographic attestation as the smart contract/oracle space starts to blossom.

>> No.12223890

>>12223809
I keep trying to tell people, a company that advertises everything and every "potential" aspect all the time needs money. A company that stays hush hush until things actually happening...has money. ChainLink shouldn't have enough funds to never advertise, get hosted at all these events for the same speech, and then PURCHASE a sizeable company. ChainLink has institutional money. It's not a startup like they pretend.

>> No.12223892

>>12222739
>backed up be actual reasoning
>random wild predictions
>belief mcap actually means something.

idiot.

>> No.12223920

>>12223650
Delphi estimates that 60% to 70% of tokens will be locked up in staking nodes. What more you want me to say bitch

>> No.12223938

>>12223809
What they are doing is really interesting and ari juels is a beast

>> No.12223939

>>12222999
1...week

>> No.12223959

>>12223884
>>12223890
The little things, when sergey lets it slip its been in development for 5 years, Ari Juels, TC, etc. All that is huge big picture

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>>12222866
>checked
Doubt not the prophecy.

>> No.12223965

>>12223920
Delphi is a fucking larp, you actually believe anything they say?

>> No.12223966

>>12223123
>if you're talking price high's for LINK, then this will occur in conjunction with a btc bullrun, so keeping total MC of crypto constant is pointless.

Those shitcoins were pumped for the sake of being pump and dumps.

LINK team won't do it to their own coin, and whales just buy and hold it. The only thing that'll pump LINK is adoption and need for the tokens, and later retail FOMO.

>> No.12223968

>>12223884
>Buying Town Crier was like if Henry Ford had locked down the patent for asphalt before releasing his first model T

Damn straight, this was huge

>>12223890
>ChainLink has institutional money. It's not a startup like they pretend.

Didn't the ICO have like a 100 Eth requirement and sell out in like 5 minutes or something?

>> No.12223970

>>12222999
Checked, fucking holy shit!

>> No.12224007

>>12223965
You honestly believe that there's not a cult of 2 dozen autistic adults who sit around researching this token, the team, and the occult in a ritualistic fashion? Buddy they're real

>> No.12224034

how do I join delphi

im a wizard already

>> No.12224047

>>12223920
I wonder how they arrive at that conclusion

>> No.12224053

Are all business meetings a cult meeting / gathering for worship of a particular common goal?

>> No.12224055

$1000 eoy, based on random numbers

>> No.12224058

>>12223938
These "Cult of Demeter " references are so banal.

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>>12224055
nice digits

>> No.12224101

>>12223959
When did Sergey let that slip?

>> No.12224114

>>12224007
Absolutely. None of their 'predictions' come to fruition. They don't know shit just like the rest of us

>> No.12224147

>>12224058
No idea what that is but alright.

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12224166

>>12224147
>she hasn't read the Mahabharata.

>> No.12224272

>>12224089
ME SO HORNY ME LOVE YOU LONG TIME

>> No.12224295

Am i gonna make it with 40k link? Wagyu anons predictions shook my confidence.

>> No.12224301

The wheels are already turning frens, we are all going to make it

>> No.12224328

>>12223736
This sounds awesome but I have no knowledge about this shit. Any critique of this?

>> No.12224399

>>12223471
The picture also gives a high token value for 10% and even 1% of collateral retard, cant you read? the point is it doesn't matter if it's 100%, 50%, 20% or 5% when you're dealing with trillions of dollars in total

>> No.12224408

>>12224295
I think he is underestimating the amount that will be staked and how high retail faggots will push it when they start to fomo.

>> No.12224427

>>12223632
thank you!

>> No.12224456

>>12224427
Youre welcome fren. Happy holidays.

>> No.12224462

>>12224101
https://youtu.be/XYiEPFRHV9A

Skip to 35 min mark

>> No.12224484

>>12223890
Walletautism did prove that they sold 5 million LINK on Binance though

>> No.12224495

>>12224295
Check this >>> >>12223117

>> No.12224502

>>12224484
source?

>> No.12224511

>>12224462
>https://youtu.be/XYiEPFRHV9A

He speaks with a lot of conviction and belief.
I'm going to stack up 50k by end of Feb latest (averaging in incase shit dips to 20c again).

>> No.12224533

>>12224502
>>/biz/thread/S8458260

>> No.12224563

>>12224533
damn, that doesnt really fill into the 10keoy prophecy timeline all that nicely to be frank

>> No.12224584

>>12224511
Wouldn't you be confident too? This is a 5 year plus project, no real competition, industry experts are mentoring you etc.

>>12224563
>>12224533
Anyone got that Binance review where they gave Link a 5/5 review? I can't find it anymore.

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Larp larp larp shill shill shill bla bla bla poo poo.

>> No.12224615

>>12224603
nigger

>> No.12224642

>>12224563
nah mate it's fine - look, they HAVE to pay the salary of like, what, 5 people now? they have an office too. They only sold like 2% of the total 65% of supply they own for this.

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>>12222739
Muh marketcap

>> No.12224684 [DELETED] 

>>12224642
They actually sold 35000 ETH a few weeks ago

>> No.12224833

Bullshit

LINK is a premined shitcoin with ICO. SEC will go after Sergey and ask to return the ICO money to the investors.
If oracle is that much important for Smart Contracts and existence of Ethereum , are you guys so dumb that Ethereum and Vitalik et. al. Wont come up with their own oracle implementation ? Comon guys. Link just has a speculative value and we are lucky if it reaches $5

>> No.12224844

>>12224833
I spent days looking for SEC filings. I even called, there are none. They've completely sold the SEC on being a utility token. But you already knew that and are posting FUD

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>>12224833
>premined

>> No.12224890

>>12224833
>Ethereum and Vitalik et. al. Wont come up with their own oracle implementation?
Design principle 4 nigger

>> No.12224915

Dennis is that you

>> No.12225514

Moi je dis realistiquement 32.- fin 2022
75.- vers 2026. Basedez patients bandes bande de branleurs

>> No.12225521

Same prediction you shills made last year but 1 year off now

>> No.12225525

>>12225514
ha ha he he wee wee pee pee, mon ah mee.

>> No.12225821

>>12223809
TC acquisition was biggest announced news in crypto for 2018 hands down.
>>12223884
Based

>> No.12225853

which one of you basement dweller poor cunts has 16 billion dollars to flip #2? hahahahahahaaha

>> No.12226090

>>12223920
>>12223965
>falling for the delphi meme

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>>12226090
>falling for the Delphi is a meme, meme.

anon, I...

>> No.12226225

>>12225853
that's not how it works...

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>>12222999
this is depressing. poor guy.
what's more saddening is knowing that when link pumps to $1000 there will be dozens of people like this who sold at $10 or something

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>>12224462
>"right now, what needs to be coded for you to go to main net, do you need that reputation system"?
>No, to go to main net initially we don't necessarily need that, right now our smart contracts are in audit. And we're going to begin delivering, we have lots of folks that have announced. We have more folks that are going to announce that they're going to be using our system.

>> No.12226410

>>12226389
>>"right now, what needs to be coded for you to go to main net, do you need that reputation system"?
>>No, to go to main net initially we don't necessarily need that, right now our smart contracts are in audit. And we're going to begin delivering, we have lots of folks that have announced. We have more folks that are going to announce that they're going to be using our system.
How would mainnet work without a reputation system though? It would be handicapped wouldn't it?

>> No.12226423

>>12226410
You're handicapped.

>> No.12226432

>>12226182
fortune= four chan


going all in link is the entire point of finding and posting on 4chan for link bros

damn feels good to be a linker

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>>12223965
>>12226090

Sup faggots

>> No.12226514

>>12226410
Not necessarily. Requests like "100 random nodes please retrieve X) is perfectly possible without reputation, but if someone wanted like a couple of highly trusted nodes with a lot of link to do some kind of job every day for a year then yeah reputation would be needed there.

>> No.12226553

>>12226410
It means link is going to be used as a protocol for trusted oracles.
Basically a library for regularly inputting data into your own contract.
Face it linkies, you know that's the truth.

>> No.12226575

>>12226553
Your post makes it sound like link holders are fools.

>> No.12226610

>>12226410
they need mainnet to drop to build reputation. brainlet

>> No.12227465

>>12226575
Library for own contract = no token needed