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>stocks down
>crypto down
>bonds down
>savings below inflation
>oil down
>gold down

Is this beginning of the end of capitalism /biz/?

>> No.12193077
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>>12193047
that looks comfy fren.

>> No.12193255

If you're US citizen buy ammo, shittons of standard ammo. .223 .308 9mm etc. guarantee 50% rise in a few years.

>> No.12194364

>>12193047
Sounds like you found out that real wealth is not about money and assets.

>> No.12194399

>>12193047
my house is up 5% this year though.

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>>12194364
but t he frens you make along the way!

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>>12193047
ALL WE NEED IS A WAR
GOD BRING THE PUNISHMENT

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>>12193047

strangely satisfying to watch that pic anon. Good job. Based pepe.

>> No.12195266

>>12193047

think so. Gas the kikes, race war now confirmed.

>> No.12195303

>>12193047
I hope so. Fucking finally

>> No.12195312

>>12193047
Ray Dalio thinks the situation today is comparable to the mid 1930's... We all know how that ended

>> No.12195545

I expect the US economy to fail here soon. Look at any chart overlaying interest rates, and recessions. We have a recession every ~10 years. We try to increase interest rates when we're prospering, and reduce them in times of recession.

Guess what, we have hardly increased our interest rates since 2008. There is no where to go, we don't have any plan for this besides negative interest rates, and at that point inflation will go through the roof. Well turn into a Venezuela shit tier country.

I predict the next recession with a 12-24 month period, at that point there will be rioting. Maybe the US will be able to keep it together and remain somewhat civil like the 30s, but there aren't as many white people anymore so who knows.

There seems to be a culling in the US every 100 years. Here we go bois.

>> No.12195556

>>12193047
But what kind of capitalism has effective tax rate of 70%.......

>> No.12195564

>>12193047
I sure hope so, fuck normies and fuck roasties

>> No.12195591

>>12195545
We raise interest rates to "pump the breaks" on over inflating the economy. If everyone can borrow money essentially for free, they'll throw it into random shit which looks good for the economy on paper but can cause bubbles. That is the balance of interest rates.

>> No.12195631

Its the great fall of boomers and the beginning of the race wars

>> No.12195663

>>12195556
you really don't know how capitalism works do you?

those with capital have made the government so inept, that the government has increased the tax rate out of desperation.
Those with capital find ways to avoid paying the tax rate.
The government is still ineffective so they sell bonds to those with capital at increasing rates.
Those with capital have now enslaved the people into paying even more increasing tax rates to the government, just do the government can pay back the interest on the bond.

it's like pottery.

>> No.12195692

>>12195663
No that is communism or oligarchy you described. You simply dont have taxes such as property tax in capitalism which is invidiual power and ownership

>> No.12195697

>>12195591
>Repeating what I just said and missing the point entirely

Standard /biz/let

>> No.12195708

>>12193047
it's about time these fuckin NEETs feel the pressure of the real world

I can't wait for all the civil wars

>> No.12195711

>>12195545
When buying gold, is it clever to buy now?

>> No.12195736

>>12195692
yeah you're fucking retarded if you think that system is even close to communism.
you're doubly retarded for knowing what an oligarchy is, but not realizing that's the end game of capitalism.

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>>12195692
>tfw stare into the abyss
>be global bastion of anti-commie sentiment
>country effectively becomes just the same or worse than what you are trying to fight

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>>12195711
If you're american, I think a gun and plenty of ammo would be a better investment. Something with a high fire rate to fend off the looters and rapist.

>pic related

>> No.12195796

>>12195758
>If you're american
europoor. and I want to buy gold. or silver. my question is, when.

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>die hard is my favorite christmas movie

>> No.12195810

>>12193255
>If you're US citizen buy ammo, shittons of standard ammo. .223 .308 9mm etc. guarantee 50% rise in a few years.
I've never heard of people using ammo as an investment, but I know a few people who use guns and magazines purely as investments. It has worked really well for them. Gun prices tend to increase.

>>12195591
This. The corporate debt/GDP ratio is at an all-time high. The fed is raising rates to gently pop the bubble before it causes a complete financial meltdown.

>>12193047
>>savings below inflation
They don't need to be. As of November, US inflation was at 2.2% (See https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/inflation-cpi).). There are mutual funds like VMMXX paying marginally better than that.

>>bonds down
BND is up for the month retard. There is a weak negative correlation between the performance of stocks and the performance of bonds.

>>stocks down
>>crypto down
You shouldn't hold stocks or crypto unless your risk tolerance is high enough to shrug off major losses.

>> No.12195826

>>12195591
>breaks

>> No.12195836

>>12193047

The fuck are you talking about, there is more socialism than ever everywhere. Capitalism is just voluntary economic exchanges, and taxation sure as fuck isn't voluntary. Governments pick winners by dumping untold amounts of money into losers and dumb projects like co2 reduction.

>> No.12195862

>>12195312
With a golden bull run starting only 10 years later?

>> No.12195875

>>12195591

How about we just separate government and economics so this doesn't happen

>> No.12195885

except gold is mooning right now

>> No.12196060

>>12195862
sure, but with the risk of a hot war beforehand. hopefully this "trade war" is as far as we take things.

>> No.12196174

>>12195808
Haha, le not-liking-something-anymore-because-it-has-become-a-popular-meme meme.

And inb4 "not a real christmas movie"; it has themes of Christmas and family strewn throughout, not least of which being when Karl loses his brother Tony which is the direct opposite of McClane being reunited with his family.

Literally deeper and more Christmassy than some people like to forced-contrarianly think.

>> No.12196195

>>12196060
There will never be a hot war between the US and China. We both have nukes and are smart enough to realize that a war between us would cause humanity to go extinct. At most, we'd have a Korea style proxy war.

>> No.12196282

>>12196195
>There will never be a hot war
History would disagree. Nukes also don't need to be utilised in warfare. One thing that's certain is China will eventually take Taiwan. It remains to be seen if by force or if Taiwan just immediately surrenders.

>> No.12196397

>>12195836
Ya, but it's not really socialism or capitalism DESU. If it was like socialism then there'd be a crackdown on the power of private corporations, instead corporations basically run everything in the world.

I wonder is it actually unironically a lot like Fascism economically? i.e. Technically private enterprise exists but in an economy with heavy intervention from the state. Only in the West today it's more like corporations with the upper hand.

OIdunnolel, just thinking out loud.