/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>12151355
Age?

>>12151355
>What the fuck can I do with an Economics bachelors?
Die slowly.

>>12151372
23

Also have no skills besides some basic how to do econometric regressions and I'm decent with some IT stuff but no certs

>>12151355
>What the fuck can I do with an Economics bachelors?
What is your take on the Money Multiplier effect?

>>12151399
its retarded

>>12151355
My two older brothers both have economics degrees and both went to grad school because they said there was little out there and this was 15 years ago. One MBA and one law school, both now have 6 figure corporate jobs, not bad actually.

>>12151400
Learn OCaml and get a job at Jane St.

>>12151355
A buddy of mine did econ and he just got a good job as an analyst at an office for a major bank last summer. Have you tried that?

>>12151416
so just get a masters? What if I'm brainlet at math?

>>12151421
Whats that? Why only that language? Is it that easy to just get hired there?

>>12151425
I've applied to dozens and dozens of "Analyst" jobs, never get a response. Most are more tech-geared requiring SQL knowledge and shit

>>12151459
>Whats that? Why only that language? Is it that easy to just get hired there?
1) A functional programming language
2) It's what Jane Street uses for all their important work
3) Of course not. I'm just fucking with you. They're very selective and aren't going to hire some retard. They almost certainly hire a lot from people who interned with them in college and/or have graduate degrees in maths, CS, and whatnot.

>>12151355
If you took multiple statistics / econometrics classes then it should be pretty easy to find a job, especially if you took any classes in computer science. Be sure to emphasize in your resume that you know statistics and programming to increase your chances of getting an interview.

Did you ever do any work as a research assistant or teaching assistant? Did you work an internship between school years? Make sure that your work experience sounds as impressive as possible, on your resume. By the way, how much feedback have you gotten on your resume -- did you get feedback from multiple people and go through multiple revisions? Did you ever attend a resume workshop? Do you have multiple versions of your resume, special-tailored for the kind of job you're applying for?

My advice is that you try applying for entry-level analyst jobs at big banks. Do it through your university career center if possible -- you're like 100x more likely to get an interview when applying through there compared to applying directly on the company website.

If that fails, ask mommy and daddy to pay for you to attend one of those coding bootcamps.

>>12151459
Brainlet in math with econ degree?

>>12151459
My dude you can literally learn SQL in a couple of hours. There's nothing "tech-geared" about SQL. In fact, I'd wager that literally every analyst job in the USA involves using SQL.

Go to SQLZOO and work through the exercises.

>>12151537
Does that teach how to create non-retarded SQL databases? I was helping my friend with his coursework when he did one of those idiotic bootcamps and everything he made was a fucking mess, like the polar opposite of 3NF.

>>12151560
SQLZOO teaches you how to use SQL, not how to set up SQL databases. Setting up databases is not something that an analyst (or someone with an Econ degree) would ever need to do.

>>12151459
>so just get a masters? What if I'm brainlet at math?
Were doomed

>>12151355

I mean, not to be a dick, but wasn’t this a question better asked BEFORE enrolling in a university?

>>12151355
>gets a useless degree
>faggot

>>12151355

econ degree isn't really useful on its own. Usually people do it to go to law school afterwards. If you have a 4.0 you can go into almost anything, law school, finance, consulting, even medical school. If you don't have a 4.0 its kinda worthless.

>>12151486
so what advise do you have?

>>12151488
No comp sci classes, only took one econometric course but my prof was pretty good. No research, internships, resume workshop. No big bank job postings on my college job board

>>12151533
>>12151621
Economics has very little actual math. Its mostly just axioms and simple formulas. Little to no calculation is involved until you get into masters/phd territory and then it suddenly gets difficult when a shit load of calculus gets involved

>>12151704
But we need the masters to have a chance at a better paying job. So without math we get not masters, and without masters, we're stuck in wagecuck land 6 days a week, for 12 hours a day with a 5 hour drive between work and home.

>>12151355
>The best job I can get is $15 an hour doing some accounting shit.

take the shit accounting job and milk it for all the expertise you can you fuckin' shitter. sometimes you gotta work a shit job for a while to build XP.

fucking scrubs expect their dream job on the first go, goddamn.

>>12151852
thats what I've been doing the past 2 years you double nigger

>>12151704
not getting an internship over the summer was a big mistake. They really should warn students that if you don't get an internship, it's exponentially harder to find a job when you graduate. Worse still that you also didn't get a job related to your degree (teaching or research assistant) during the school year, to make up for the lack of a summer internship. Have you ever worked any job, whatsoever? Were you ever the president of a student organization on campus? I combined my job experience and club leadership experience into one section on my resume titled "Leadership and Work Experience", when I was applying for jobs at graduation.

also, you need to attend resume and interview workshops (assuming you're still a student) and polish the f**k out of your resume. It's crazy to me that you've been applying to jobs but never asked anybody for feedback on your resume. Please please PLEASE don't tell me that your resume is more than one page. A multi-page resume is a dead giveaway that you have no idea what you're doing.

Don't forget to write down on your resume that you know SQL, after you finish the exercises on SQLZOO. Like I said, every analyst job involves using SQL.

How is your GPA? Is it at least above 3.4?

>>12151867
>2 years
Well you are in luck then, because thats around the time you look to upgrade. Find something similar that just pays more. Oversell your current position to leverage yourself into something better. I bet you could get $25-$35/hr no prob. Did you not get any certifications in the last 2 years?

>>12151942
Yes, I work in mortgage accounting and servicing. My resume is not more than one page. I will learn the SQLZOO. my GPA is 3.4

>>12151973
Thats what I've been trying to do. Would be thrilled if I could get $25 an hour. What certs could I get that are relevent? I dont have any

Fuck every company that files jobs requiring multiple years of experience under the "entry-level" filter. Just call it an associate position you cum guzzling fucks.

>>12151400
You start at that 15 dollar hour job you fucking brainlet. It’s your choice if you want to stay there for more than 3 years

>>12151704
>no compsci
>no research
>no internships
>Economics has very little actual math. Its mostly just axioms and simple formulas
Sorry anon but you're fucked. That education you got was near worthless holy shit.

At the very least here's what you need to do to actually get a job with that degree
- Get a job with clerical work focus
- Learn how to use R and/or SAS
- Learn how to write decently
That's literally it.

>>12151355
checked
same boat but accounting major/ econ minor. sold my soul in insurance claims for a few years but it just wasnt worth it. accounting is easy as fuck and chill. personally waiting for chainlink mainnet, then will learn to run a node

>>12152004
You could look into getting certified as a SAS Base Programmer, and then after that getting certified as a SAS Advanced Programmer. The first test (for Base Programmer) is pretty easy; the second one is harder but if you prepare well enough you should be fine.

The tests and study materials will probably cost you around $1K, but having both certifications will open doors to jobs that pay twice as much as what you're making now.

>>12151355
Teach English abroad.
China, Japan, Vietnam, Korea and Taiwan all pay well.

>>12152047
This is a bitter pill to swallow, but anon speaks the truth. You shouldn't have studied Econ if you hate math, and you should've thought about how to position yourself to get a job when you graduate. You kinda dug yourself into a hole.

A number of suggestions of "learn this programming language" have been said in this thread, so let me suggest a rank ordering for you:
1. SQL
2. SAS
3. R & Python

All of the most cutting-edge banks are using R or Python instead of SAS; SAS is considered old-school. However, if you're already having trouble finding any kind of analyst job at a bank, then you're better off looking for an analyst job at an old-school bank where the bar for getting hired is lower. So that's why I recommend SAS over R or Python.

>>12151355
You fucked up getting an economics degree. I know that, because I too fucked up getting that same degree. I have good news though, it gets easier.

An economics degree is a 'late-game' degree. Once you get your first job, even if its $15 accounting shit, you can keep moving up and hopping from job to job. Its stupidly easy to find a job when you've been employed already for 6 months. It gives the HR drones a very important signal; you know how to "work".

Use that to your advantage. An economics degree should be used a job hopping degree. Any industry, any type of data/analytic/accounting/finance/real estate job is open to you once your have experience. Get a job, work there for 6 months to 2 years, then leave.

Eventually you'll find yourself being moved up into move 'managerial' positions, and once you have that the sky's the limit.

You won't make anywhere close to your programming buddies, or your finance frat bros. But you'll have more opportunity available to you and access to various industries.

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>>12152312
Thanks

>>12152004
>What certs could I get that are relevent?
uhh, your fucking CPA?

>>12151399
>>12151695
>>12151697
>>12152312
Not sure why everyone here thinks an Econ degree is useless... I graduated 5 years ago with an Econ bachelors from an okay school (ranked around #25), and I was able to get an analyst job for $70k right out of school.

>>12151355
i got a bachelors in economics
worked in finance for 8 years and am now a software engineer
good luck!

>>12152004
In addition to what the above posters said, here are some more certs and career paths for you.

Real Estate: Argus Enterprise Certified
Actuarial: P + FM exams
Accounting: CPA
Finance: CFA

Real estate obviously the easiest one (but costs over a grand) and the actuarial one can be done in about 200 hours. The rest take much longer.

Economics Bachelor here

It's a shit degree, graduated 2-3 years ago and got LAUGHED out of every job interview in the finance/business field. You have literally 2 options - get a masters degree (NOT IN ECONOMICS) or settle for something lesser that involves similar problem solving skills. I went for the latter route and am making 70k after 3 years doing logistics & account managing. Yes I know that is shit pay relatively speaking as a finance major would be making 30% more than that in 1/3 the time, but mind you I didn't even need a college degree for this job. The lesson here? If you are going for an econ bachelors its the same as not having any degree at all, anything above Macro/Micro 101 and rudimentary theory its useless meme pop-science for the most part.

pic related, it was me after I graduated thinking the world was at my fingertips, when reality my fingertips were in shit.

>>12152387
I graduated from a top 25 school as well. A lot of my friends found jobs pretty easily but they all had an unpaid internship into a paid internship into a job offer. You "making it" and finding a job right out of college doesn't really help the OP with his problems, because your talents/networking/opportunity are unique to you only.

The fact of the matter is, Economics is a useless degree in that the skills you learn from it are not immediately transferable onto a resume, nor are they really as identifiable as being able to program a mobile app. An economics degree gives you a different way to see the world from a sociopathic, utility maximing prospective. This viewpoint doesn't really benefit you all that much until you're later in your career and have some power to your name.

>>12152469
No, Economics isn't the problem, the problem is that you squandered your opportunity to learn math, statistics, and programming, which are highly-employable skills that any decent Econ program will give you ample opportunity to learn.

>>12152490
>any decent Econ program will give you ample opportunity to learn.
You're fucking delusional, there is no credible econ program in the United States.

>>12152619
That kind of victim attitude belongs on /r9k/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/susanadams/2014/01/22/the-college-degrees-that-get-the-most-job-offers/#e7dc11a2c4eb

Economics is literally the second most employable major after CompSci.

>>12151459
That's weird, I know a couple people who did econ and are doing fine. Where are you?

>>12152841
WHAt are they doing? Im in la

>>12153317
Data Scientist in SF here, Econ '14, no postgraduate degree, this is my third job after branch swinging from two previous jobs

>>12151355

Are you fucking retarded OP? Take that accounting job, and work your way up. No one will hire you because you have no experience, you stupid fuck. A degree only helps you land that bottom barrel entry level job. You work your way up from that. Fucking idiot.

>>12152490
Is there supposed to be programming in an economics carreeer? Like finance, because I dont see programming in one of the university program.

>>12153344
How to do that?

>>12153351
Thats what im doing but my company is going down the tubes so its dead end atm

>>12153380
>graduate from a ~#20 school with GPA of 3.6
>many revisions of resume until highly polished
>apply to ~40 jobs and got 2 interviews
>didn't prepare for the first interview
>bombed it
>schedule & attend interview prep at college career center
>pass the second interview
>start as an analyst at a big bank you've heard of
>shitty starting role where I was basically running reports and pasting results into PowerPoint slides
>use free time in and outside of work to learn SAS
>get certified in SAS
>use SAS to automate reports at work
>use free time to learn Tableau
>get certified in Tableau
>use Tableau to visualize reports at work
>get promoted for doing cool stuff with SAS and Tableau while peers are still using SQL and Excel
>leverage promotion to transfer internally into more specialized/niche department within bank with more interesting work
>create polished LinkedIn profile describing skills and work/project experience
>get hired at more prestigious bank doing same specialty work, but for more money
>use free time to brush up on statistics
>use free time to learn enough about machine learning and Python to pretend to understand them
>recruiter from FAANG company reaches out with Data Science role

sorry for the wall of greentext

>>12151459
You deserve economic slave degree

>>12153594
This was extremely helpful bro, thank you

Just learn math you faggot.

>>12153594

thanks anon that's interesting to read

You take the job and look for a better one retard

Just remember to prepare really hard for your interviews.
Read “Case in Point”.
Watch case interviews on YouTube.
Google the top 20 behavioral interview questions that interviewers ask, write them down on flash cards, and then on the other side write down notes for your answers to each question using the SAR framework. Record your answers and listen to yourself and adjust your answers accordingly.
Look up everything you can about the company and the role and come up with 30 minutes worth of meaningful questions to ask the interviewers to demonstrate interest in the role.
If you know the names of your interviewers ahead of time, look them up / stalk them on LinkedIn before the interview (while logged out so they don’t see that you did) and tailor your questions & answers for them accordingly.
Smile a lot and have a positive attitude. Negativity is always a bad thing in corporate world.

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>>12153317
GF graduating usc in econ major next semester. Just had a five panel interview for law firm as analyst. $15 per hour as an intern. >70k starting salary post graduation. This is in downtown LA.

network to get a job. Join forums, fb groups, reddit, meetup.com, conventions, etc. Participate in conversations and you'll see opportunities for jobs.

>>12154597
a list of reasons why im not ever going to look for a corporate job again!

i made $50 and i wanted to kill everyone until I got fired for looking like I wanted to kill everyone.

fuck working for other people in the fake world of linkedin egotists where you gotta slave away on their schedule to make them money and then act grateful for the opportunity.

i'd rather make $10 / hour part time for 10 years if means I have 10 hours a week to work on a side project that has a 10% chance of making my net worth $10 million. at least if I fail, I failed doing what I wanted, not what some cunt wanted.

>>12151386
crazy how big the degree bubble has become for you zoomers, econ used to tick the box anywhere vaguely related, all that was left was a firm handshake and turning up at one minute to nine the next morning.

it seems like now you literally need to leverage a bet on what the next meme qualification will be and hope to all fuck you can shill those bags hard enough. maybe bitcoin can never go to zero, there is literally no other hope for you people.