/biz/ - Business & Finance

Dividends are your frens

VTGN is going down and down...should I cut my losses and sell now? Bought at 2.20

lets all panic sell

It's like watching a train wreck

>>12145692
just got my ko dividend pay frend, wby

cheapies cheapies cheapies cheapies cheapies
cheapies cheapies cheapies cheapies cheapies
cheapies cheapies cheapies cheapies cheapies
cheapies cheapies cheapies cheapies cheapies

Ugh algos have me number today >_>
Short 1 penny from triggering them counter long 5 cents from triggering <_<

You aren't seriously still holding equities at this point, right /smg/?
You've had three months of warning. Surely you've listened?

>>12145711
Just got some F shares for that 7% yield.

BUY THE SPY
WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR

>>12145711
1 full share dividend. /sip/

>>12145696
>Bought at 2.20
I wouldn't recommend selling right now, but if you bought in looking for short term profit without really knowing anything about the company, then you should probably sell on the next bounce

https://www.businessinsider.com/ketamine-for-depression-medical-centers-where-get-infusions-2018-11

This crash will be brutal jfc why now. Lost all my $$ from BTC now I’ll lose all my $$ in the scam market jfc

>>12145730
246

fuck we are fucked there's no support till like 2200 now

>>12145725
I bought a bunch of F too, hoping that it climbs back up eventually since I think its undervalued right now

>>12145749
a fairy tale

>Red on a suppose to be green day.
>Fed hasn't even raised rates yet.
This will be the easiest money I've made my entire life.

>>12145769
powel will take it to 190's easily next year.

>>12145762
Ford was investing into self driving tech awhile back. I'd like to hear what happened with that.
>Self driving cars are the future

>>12145753
It's not hard seeing levels, look again

>>12145807
last support is literally the base from 15/16

>>12145805
>>Self driving cars are the future

If Ford was to bring out a customized off road vehicle to compete against the Jeep Wrangler, that would probably bring in big returns.

The Wrangler pretty much has zero competition.

Just had to step away from desk to take a shit so I'm guessing in the next 5 minutes there are going to be some significant moves. My asshole is attuned to the market to such a degree it's almost scary.

Th- thanks for the cheapies...

>>12145753
>>12145807
>>12145810
>TA
ROFLMAO

>>12145810
we arent going to give back all the tax cut gains lol

>>12145822
Bronco is coming back in 2020 I believe

>>12145822
new Bronco is never. new diesel Ranger is never.

>>12145822
bronco is coming out soon. They are so far behind on electric and nowhere close on autonomous. Mostly due to employee layoffs and not starting to build any projects because they won't spend any money.

fuck you, mgm

SWK green today and on friday
Holding this WINNER as long as possible

Hold when the market is doing well.

Buy everything when it's sinking.

I never buy when the market is in the green, and I've made decent returns doing so.

>>12145837
>>12145838
>>12145843

I know that is coming, but, we'll see how that comes about. I doubt it will compete for the Wrangler market though.

The problem with cars that don't run on gas is that they're ungodly expensive to fix. I've heard reliable mechanics say the repairs cost so much that a lot of time people will just say fuck it and trade it in for a new EV.

EVs are a cool concept, but still far from accessible to the average consumer IMO.

In b4 hurr durr mechanics just want your money hurr they're lying hurr.

The bears struggling, trying their best to scare us into selling, but we push back over and over. It's a rough fight sure, but in the end we will triumph.
A bull never surrenders
A bull never sells
A bull never stops buying
You hear that in the distance?
Thats the dogs barking, ready to be let off the chain, the end is coming bears, I'd recommend you pick up some TQQQ

>>12145885
>I doubt it will compete for the Wrangler market though

i disagree. off road enthusiasts generally welcome any deviation from Fiat-Chrysler garbo. 2015 FJ Cruisers sell for 10k over MSRP still.

who else ready for anything here

>>12145907
thanks just bought 100 shares SQQQ.

>>12145907
>holding 3x leveraged ETFs long term

Recommend me some comfy dividend stocks, /smg/

>>12145925
JNJ

>>12145928

>>12145925
GIS and BTI are cool lol

>>12145925
F

>>12145925
CWEN

>>12145822
>>12145805
they also have a huge reserve of cash iirc, $40 billion or something like that

>>12145907
Gay LARP.

Why is VTGN going down? All the news that's been released lately is the CEO being paid more than others. The market that sensitive?

oooo baby

>>12145997
>>12145696
it's a small-cap biotech stock, they're all sensitive to manipulation by market makers in the short term
the science is promising in the long term, and that's ultimately what matters
big money wants cheapies, so they're dragging it down

>>12145985
>LARP
What would i gain from lying on the internet

>>12146015
OH MY FUCKING GOD. MOM, GET THE CAMERA

>>12145925
BEP

>>12146030
poorfag

>>12145902
Also makes them a pain to buy used. So many out there have fucked battery systems.

>>12146156
I think the long term survivability of EV's depends on being able to replace the batteries, or more likely we move to a subscription model.

hope you bought that dip today

>goes up 2.5% in 5 minutes
>goes down 10% in the next 55 minutes
>recovers 9% in less than half an hour

VTGN is an absolute madman, even for a small-cap biotech stock

>>12146200
thread has gone quiet since the bounce

THREADLY REMINDER THAT DIVIDENDS ARE YOUR FREN

cost averaged some JNJ today. also fuck mondays, ruining my fun weekend by showing up and making me start my work week again

shorts absolutely rekt right now
so many large shorts BTFO

>>12145822
>I dont know about the 2020 Ford Bronco
Lmao rise Ford, RISE FOR ME BABY

NBEV
Whats the ceiling lads?

>>12146211
it’s creepy. i made my 13% on sqqq and got out. still have some spy that i’m down on but was waiting out cap gains. might regret not liquidating that.

>>12145822
the thing isn't about which is best per se, jeep people are cultists. i've been to one jeep event where they go off roading with some friends outside of hurricane, utah and they are brand loyalist to the max.

Where is the chubby girl poster?

>>12146252
passed nine so on the right

>>12146241
Ah, hurr rickan utah

>>12145749
Is...is she going to eat her?

>>12145679
if the economy is strong why is the stock market shitting itself just at 2% rates ?

>>12145822
Jeeps have two markets. The “off roaders” who rarely go off-road but spend tens of thousands on accessories and Stacie’s who want to be like Cher in Clueless.
Basically all the basic bitches drive Jeeps for some reason.

>>12146446
because the stock market as a whole is irrational, unpredictable, and driven by emotion

"Only niggers invest in cryptos"-peter Schiff

>>12146460
It's not 2003, anon. Stacy of today never heard of Clueless.

>>12145679
Any of my niggas here investing in cobalt or lithium miners + battery tech?

>>12146446
election is in 2 years and they can't let trump look good

>>12146518
How to do this? I know lithium is plentiful and relatively easy to obtain. I believe China has most of the world's Cobalt, or at least around half of it.

>>12145679
TOLD YOU GUYS IT'S GONNA BE A GREEN DAY FUCKERS

GoPro flippenings LCI for the lead

S&P 500 just 2x topped hard, goin down lads

>>12146681
S&P is crashing right now mate. About to hit new yearly low.

>>12146689
yaya
goooooo
goproooooo!

Fuck this market I'm out. Nothing can save this market. Everyone is selling like crazy.

crash motha fooka! I need some mutts to roast!

P/e ratios at 12-15. Its a fucking fire sale, im buying everything.

>>12146727
Just short then, jeez

won't it still be bearish if the Fed doesn't raise rates? signs of economic weakness?

I'm literally fucked either way

>>12146767
Move to bonds and wait for the decision from the feds on tuesday if you are chicken. The market has falsely priced a recession in. The market is underpriced. Just buy.

>>12146557
>lithium
ALB

its all ogre now

>>12146788
are you a ruseman

FUCK THIS MARKET

>All of the tripfags are missing
The culling has begun. Thank you, based bear market.

>>12146905
>all of the tripfags are missing

you forgot someone

Bulls we have to Push harder

Trust the president. Buy the dip

>>12146919
What's a president to the fed?

>>12146937
thats deep dude

>>12146917
another few thousand and you'll be gone

>>12146905
I'm just too lazy to put my trip on every time. also has LCI guy offed his self yet?

>>12146952
>implying

my entire portfolio is noncyclicals

>>12146937
I think they call that a Jerome.

>>12146960
post it then fagget

WTF buy the fucking dip you imbeciles

Down 4% already

Another day, another couple hundred dollars down the hole. Where the hell is the bottom?

>>12146974
it also helps that I don't have very much money in the market

>GALT
biotech, part of the health care sector

>VTGN
biotech, part of the health care sector

>WTR
water utility dividend aristocrat

>>12146917
>>12146905
just watching the shit show

>>12146955
buying more LCI

>>12146984
finally someone says it

Time to activate the ole Robinhood gold and buy the Spy on margin

>>12146015
There are some anons who I honestly hope go broke and stop posting out of shame.

You're one of them.

>>12147010
>tfw im invested in GALT too

WTFFF YOU NIGGERS!!!!!

>>12147004
no bottom. (((jerome))) is out to bankrupt the country.

>>12147049
what's your average share price

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaa

>>12147056
>>12147071
T-thanks for the cheapies!

>>12147071
/pat

Has TATA finally found a bottom?
I think so. I'll buy it if the support holds till the beginning of January

Yall posting pink wojaks to distract other peopl from buying the dipr right

>>12146806
Lithium is also the best anti depressant. Which I'll need if everyone keeps selling.

> APPL not giving iPhone numbers anymore

what

>>12146710
lol told u guys, no one even gave me a (you)

God, this is beyond belief.

I just keep ignoring these bulls and I just keep making money

>>12147113
TA anon was right. They should've listened.

it's ogre
see you bulls in 3 years

quick!
sacrifice an anime girl to the Golden Bull Run

how long till we break this years low on SPY/DJI

We are now below the Feburary low. Lowest this year. This is literally your last chance to sell before SPY goes to 200.

NAFLD (Non-Alcoholic Fatty Liver Disease) is a very common and often symptomless disease caused by the buildup of fat in the liver. In some cases, people with NAFLD will develop NASH (Non-Alcoholic Steatohepatitis), in which inflammation and liver cell damage are present in addition to the buildup of fat in the liver. In its later stages, people with NASH can develop fibrosis (scarring) in their livers, which can in severe cases progress to liver cirrhosis, an extremely serious and life-threatening condition. The NASH market is forecasted to be worth $20-$35 billion dollars by 2025, and most large players in the NASH space (MDGL, ICPT, VKTX, etc) are focused on treating fibrosis and preventing progression to cirrhosis. One example of a company focused primarily on treating cirrhosis, however, is GALT.

GALT's sole competitors in the NASH cirrhosis space are CNAT and Gilead. CNAT missed primary endpoints in its most recent clinical trial, and Gilead's NASH drug has shown mixed results in clinical trials. GALT's primary drug of interest, GR-MD-02, works by inhibiting the action of galectin-3, a molecule implicated in a wide variety of diseases, including NASH, cancer, fibrosis, endometriosis, and asthma. In a phase 2 clinical trial of GR-MD-02 for the treatment of NASH cirrhosis, GR-MD-02 showed a statistically significant and promising effect in the reduction of hepatocyte ballooning (occurs when hepatocytes, a type of liver cell, increase in size and then explode and die) and in preventing the formation of esophageal varices (enlarged veins in the esophagus that can rupture and cause life-threatening bleeding). It did, however, miss its primary endpoint in the reduction of HVPG (hepatic venous pressure gradient). This may have occured due to an error in trial design. Per recently published FDA guidelines, phase 2 NASH clinical trials should last 12-18 months, which GALT's trial did not. Additionally, its effects in the reduction of hepatocyte ballooning and preventing the formation of esophageal varices were promising enough that GALT has moved onto Phase 3 clinical trials in NASH. In addition to NASH, GR-MD-02 has shown promising results in the treatment of melanoma and head and neck cancer, significant increasing Keytruda's response rate in a recent combination trial. GR-MD-02 is safe (producing little to no significant side effects) and relatively inexpensive to produce (being derived from apple pectin).

I don’t know where the bottom is, but there will be a rebound in January when Trumpster ends the trade war. Don’t sell yet, but absolutely sell after that event.

>>12147147
>>12147157

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5855601/
http://investor.galectintherapeutics.com/news-releases/news-release-details/galectin-therapeutics-inc-announces-positive-preliminary-results
https://www.streetinsider.com/Analyst+Comments/Galectin+Therapeutics+%28GALT%29+PT+Raised+to+%2412+at+H.C.+Wainwright/14192136.html
https://seekingalpha.com/instablog/47560554-vision-and-value/5210387-gr-mdminus-02-keytruda-s-partner
https://seekingalpha.com/article/4202616-nash-cirrhosis-real-nash-epidemic

Do I buy the dip, SPY 500?

a recession has to be coming right

you cant have this many -1% days in a 3 month period and not lose a full 50%

>>12147178
lol yea one of them on the way down to 200.

>>12147181
yeah but in the distant future..Id say around 2020,2021

>>12147181
But if I sell now, it will turn out that this was the bottom.

>>12147159
Thank you based star reading negroe.
Maybe you should check some animal intestines to tell us some more.

>>12147181
100 more days like this and we're dead

>>12147189
delusional. we are already in recession you're just stupid or in denial.

>>12147108
Apple is fucked.
No Steve Jobs to save them this time.

>>12147208
Thats just not how it works.

>>12147010
Feel like those sectors have some policy risks attached given the press for greater government bargaining power in drug pricing and the issues with water standards across the country.

the rape hike is going to shitter shatter dow, right? look at this shit. its fucking dead

There will be no dawn....for bulls

>>12147108
did you see what happened last time? they beat earnings and revenue handily but "muh iPhone numbers" weren't high enough.

>>12147211
>apple is fucked
nah mate, its just transforming a bit. its services industry is growing massively and has an unmatched ecosystem of products and services. i'll be just fine

>>12147095
>those elbows
Yikes

>>12147070
5.20

>>12147257
mine is $4.78

The best thing about trading equity instead of degenerate options is you have the ability to baghold without losing everything
who else here is /comfy/

>>12147220
next year you're the same fag that will say we started a recession q3 2018. you're just bleeding from your vag too much now to see what's happening.

>>12147257
>>12147264
I bought 2 more shares of WTR today, so GALT is currently 48.71% of my portfolio

>>12147264
me on the right

BUDWEISER WTF YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO DO GOOD DURING RECESSIONS HOLY SHIT I BOUGHT AT $89

>>12147159
>Denial

>>12147286
me further to the right
i'm patient and comfy

I expect powell to say I'm raising rates now and every quarter next year. fuck you guys i'm burning it all into the ground at the request of (((them)))

>>12147318
why the FUCK would he raise rates with this shitshow happening?

Dude weed bearish. I've been dumping all morning. Pulled out of Cresco and Terrascend at profit. Cron at break even when it set lower low. GTII might get sold before end of day i'm not decided yet. Holding TRUL for now. 75% cash, 25% stocks left.

>>12147309
I got just about the same amount of shares you do. It'll go back up and i'll make a good return. Just busting your balls man, this general kinda boring now

>>12147326
>thinking he has control and not higher powers that own everything. he's just a puppet.

Holy fuck VIX spiking into the stratosphere
>>12147295
GIS continues to crash with no end in sight. Food stocks absolute crushed
>>12147286
That thread was extremely motivating to escape wagie life

>>12147326
Inflation is bad, if rates stay low then inflation will skyrocket.

>>12147326
You're not the only one who's wondering about that :^)

>>12147281
as a divvy investor, share price is less relevant than dividend growth because I plan on never selling a stock unless their fundamentals change or they cut their divvy (like GE I sold earlier this year).

feels pretty comfy knowing the only thing you need to worry about is dollar cost averaging.

This is Jerome Powell, Chairman of the Federal Reserve! Say something nice about him!

>>12147326
Inflation risk mostly, but at least some of that is due to the trade war and can't be solved with monetary policy.

I doubt they'd plan more than two for next year though, I'll be buying all my t-bonds in a couple weeks.

>>12147326
Fiat money can't handle free market inflation.
Gold standard could because it was limited by gold production and its industrial demand.

>>12147369
ngl that hair is rlly stylish.

>>12147326
Not raising would signal that an actual economical shitshow is happening.

protip: It isn't.

>>12147369

>>12147369
AAAAAAAAAa

> ITALY TO CUT 2019 GDP GROWTH FORECAST TO 1% FROM 1.5%: REUTERS

lol at ECB and EC. Only thing they could do in 2008-2018 was to breath some life into Germany and that's about it. Another recession when most of Europe isn't even out of it.

>>12147369
Thank you daddy Powell!

>>12147399
>mfw I'm poor in one of the PIIGS

Why is this happening

>>12147329
Green Thumbs out. Only TRUL left.

This dip better be deep. I want cheapies.

>>12147424
That sucks.. do your best to get out if you want some security.

>>12147432
the real question is how did we get here

>>12147424
Most people in Greece don't believe you when you tell them that another recession is coming lmao

GASPING DOWN FUUUUUUUUUCK

>>12147438
same as last time. boomers inflate the price of everything and realize things have gone too far. panic.

uh oh
if we go below 256
me style of trading becomes ineffective
will have slow down on number of daytrades

>>12147438
no, the real question is where do we go from here

>>12147343
I mean at a point there's not a ton we can do to escape waggie life other work it until we don't need to anymore. Unless you're born into something its something everyone has to do.

bobo pls stop this

>>12147466
capitulation is around the corner.

>>12147343
>That thread was extremely motivating to escape wagie life
what thread? got an archive link?

Reminder this market has Powell SLOWING rate increases priced in
IT'S FUCKING PRICED IN
There's nothing he can do to stop this

Dear god..

>>12147466
the city centre, to watch bankers hang

STOP CAPITULATING KIDS

JUST BUY MORE ON THE DIP, IF YOUR DEEP INTO EQUITIES YOUR TIME HORIZON SHOULD BE 15+ YEARS IN THE FUTURE

buy the dip/recession and you will make it when 2028 comes, your portfolio value in 2022 doesnt matter

If I don't get at least a 50k job within the next year I'm going to blame going to college for my lack of ability to live the good life and work my hardest to ruin my Dad before he can spend all his wealth away.

>>12147466
definitely not towards communism

WHOA!!! What the fuck, man?!

I'm financially ruined

>>12147432
People are pulling out before Powell's meeting on Wednesday to limit exposure if he's hawkish. Then support broke on S&P some moar selling. Moar selling begets moar selling. The Italy news is pretty nasty too.

>>12147482
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1544342570523.webm

lets just blame the boomers

at least it cant get any worse

eat shit bulls

hawkisly dovish or dovishly hawkish

at least when my capital gains and dividends from my mutual funds reinvest it will be at a lower share price.

>>12147551
Hey fuck you. This is really bad for the economy.

Death to boomers

>>12147543
DELETE

Dowtr and sp total return if they go down another 10%-15 then it would be a yuuuuge buy. Euro markets you face very high risk of nikkei type 30 year or more inflation adjusted negative return future. euro stoxx 50 is 40% lower than 1999 level =) just another example of why buy and hold a continent index does not guarantee lifetime surplus returns

a-at least we have our girlfriends, r-right anons?

It's over isn't it?

The dream of early retirement.. the lambos.. the braps... its not ganna happen is it..

Don't worry, I'll turn the pump back on when I get home.

>>12147592
i'm 37 and never had a gf.

whats it feel like

>>12147432
>>12147438

Fact of the matter is that on a macroeconomic level, we are at the end of a financial cycle. We're frankly overdue for an economic downturn of some kind. The real question is how bad it will be, and when exactly it will start, not whether it will happen at all. The "Golden Bull Run" that gets memed about ALREADY HAPPENED, you just missed it. The inflation of bond and stock markets over the past decade vis a vis the actual economy was massive and could never last forever. That doesn't mean it's literally doomsday (hey it might be) but we're in for not just a bear market but a bear economy.

buy tvix before sour hour you plebs not too late to gain, wait for the small weak pump then buy buy buy and hedge your portfolios cmon!!!!!!!

meanwhile

Short term bonds and money market masterrace checking in. Who else comfy?

>>12147602
heaven

END IT ALL

>>12147606
zoom out fampai

I am pretty sure this is the bottom

>>12147595
you could get a homeless guy to brap in your face for a cheeseburger

>>12147181
A recession is a specific event where GDP growth goes negative, it has nothing to do with the market.
Under Trump GDP has been exploding and breaking records like crazy. Libtard kikes like (((SOROS))) are manipulating the market into crashing so they can blame Trump, but the reality is we're making more and exporting more than we've ever done before. If anything we're about to hit a new Golden Age when Never Trumpets get margin called on their shorts and we all get +100% gains overnight.

>>12145679
Fuck this shit.

I put $10k in FTE networks at an average value of $6 per share because I though it was a bargain at the all-time low with nothing but good news and a previous high of $20 per share and analysts valuing it at $35 per share at the time. Now it's down to $3 per share.

Still nothing but good news from the company, except for some potential dilution in the form of stock options issued to employees with a strike price of $10-ish. Debt is high-ish but half of it already got refinanced at low interest rates.

What the fuck is happening? Did a major owner get liquidated? Did I get pump & dump scammed? Am I a bagholder?

>>12147432
>>12147438
just a small correction
buy the dip

It's time to buy AMD boys

>>12147636
i know. i know. i'm just saying. you should see my bags and and all my gpus just waiting for winter to get cold.

>>12147604
will 2x ETFs survive this upcoming recession?

should i keep buying SSO/QLD monthly or start picking up some SPY/QQQ instead

>>12147628
i dontthink i could stand anothe rperson desu. i can barely stomach myself

>>12146557
Invest in miners or if you got 250k pounds, London's metal exchange. Not an option for anybody here lol.

Lithium is very common in nature (200 BILLION TONS in worlds ocean alone, hard to even imagine how much that is), but very difficult to extract from the sea water. >50% of world's cobalt is in Congo, rest is spread between Australia, Canada-US and Russia

>>12147651
Jus threw a Put on AMD

23,739.01
-361.50
-1.50%

4head kappaface

>>12147651
the run up on amd lags way behind crypto uptrend.

>>12147591
Nice edit, she looks better in the original though

He panic sold? Poomp eet

>>12147645
Forgot my image.

When every last bullish analyst has been slain, when every retail traders has bought put options, when every last investor starts to think there is no bottom, when every last support line has been broken. Only then will the golden bull rise again.

But for now we must fall more.

>>12147644
Trump was sounding all the praises of the stock market in 2017 and a lot of trump ppl got in then.

Regardless, his policy of instituting stimulus in an already warm economy, the trade war, and financial deregulation are larger a concoction that will squeeze profits and lead to deep troubles not too far down the road.

>>12147655
as long as dollar is world reserve currency there is no way sp gonna dip and stay below -40% levels sustained. all other financial markets you dont have that guarantee. rates will continue to raise soon again and bond market losses will extend. europe can not even raise rates the situation is so bad! so they offer 0% for bonds in europe + negative stock market returns lululu!

>KEEPS
>GOING
>DOWN

>>12147606
You noticed that too? Big pump suddenly there.

holy fuckin shit

>>12147700
Thats gonna be a problem because i aint selling, i guess it will never start

Press F

Behind every recession is another bull run fellas

>>12147644
>exploding GDP growth
>not realizing that GDP data lags the stock market
>thinking under 4% unemployment is sustainable and not indicative of peak expansion
New paragidm huh? This time is different? Accept it fool, you had ample warning.
>>12147738
Babby’s first recession is really going to rock you. This is just the tip, there’s a whole 7 inches of shaft left.

This was a long time coming, be glad it's now.

mfw i sold one of my rentals to legit boomers at the top of the market last year. I expect that it will be back on the market very soon as they lose all of their money now.

Capitulation is here. Bull run starts Wednesday.

>>12147772
wall street bonus checks coming.

>>12147714
ok so what do you mean by this? The US is too big and too important of an economy for the world as a whole to ever stay in recession mode for too long? Thats what i tend to think too; if the US ever collapses and i lose all my money well that means the entire world collapses too and i wont need any money at that point anyways. a 40% recession aka 80% drawdown on my 2x ETFs is brutal but I like to think I have iron hands

China Green Agriculture small cap
Bullish on China capitulation?
Moonshot?

>Letting Jews anywhere near your economy.

>>12147604
this and last quarter already show that next year there will be massive stagnation. the US is in a good spot right now, but frankly no other developed country can afford to slow down. Also if it actually comes down to US and China saving the global financial system like last time, chances are they won't be as cooperative. things are looking pretty terrible.

>>12147806
let it happen, let it be. we go global now. this time no more tiny empires, we full planet.

>>12147822
No, Jew. I don't want to be wiped out.

What company should I put my Roth IRA through?
What about common stock trading?

>>12147806
>>12147828
Go back to /pol/
Jews are God's chosen people doing their best to lead the goiym to riches

>-1.70%

WTF

>>12147800
If you hold a 40% drop to the index your position is not down 80%. It is actually more because it is recalculating on a daily basis. It essentially compounds with each day of consecutive losses. Read the prospectus and pricing supplement for the funds you purchased.
You should consider deleveraging.

> 236XX


buy

the

dip

SPX is testing its february low
oh shi

should I cash out to buy a gun to kms?

>>12147864
is testing wicks a thing?

>>12147891
No, you should be mad at Trump trade war and Johnson & Johnson, not yourself.

>>12147891
buy LCI first

>>12147891
I started keeping one in my car now

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SOMEBODY SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAVE MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

>>12147891
the banker genocide hasn't even started yet, you'll be missing out

>>12147857
this isnt true, the 2x ETFs already went through 2009 with almost exactly 2x losses, and are now worth more than if you had held QQQ/SPY for the same time period

>>12147900
in this particular cas, yes
that level is critical

>>12147839
t. Man in middle of recession

So who wants to bet that mass migration will be the solution to the recession? Again.

>>12147369
Hey Faggots,

My name is Jerome Powell, and I hate every single one of you. All of you are poor, retarded, no-lifes who spend every second of their day looking at stupid ass charts. You are everything bad in the the economy. Honestly, have any of you ever gotten any dividends? I mean, I guess it's fun making fun of people because of their poverty, but you all take to a whole new level. This is even worse than buying Big 5 at $9.50.

Don't be a stranger. Just hit me with your best shot. I'm pretty much perfect. I am Chair of the Federal Reserve, and hand picked by Trump. What investments do you make, other than "jack off to naked drawn Japanese people"? I also get mad gains, and have a banging hot girlfriend (She just did some technical analysis; Shit was SO cash). You are all faggots who should just kill yourselves. Thanks for listening.

Pic Related: It's me and my dollar

Please tell me that the stock market isn't crashing because of asbestos in baby powder. That sounds too much like an Onion headline.

t-this is just boomers selling to buy christmas gifts, h-hehe haha

>>12147914
Down 6.6%

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look at this capitulation

https://stocktwits.com/symbol/SPY

>>12147891
Cash out to buy a pre 86 fully Auto and enjoy your interest

ONE MORE TIME LADS
'EEEEERE WE GO!!!!!!!

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>>12147950
it's because of the fall of obongocare

> not buying the dip
> screaming instead.

rough day even for me

still not panicking like you obnoxious bitches

>>12147978
you crazy we deff going lower today

jfc

WE'RE AT PANIC BOYS

Big pump coming.

>>12147988
>-$21.87
WOW SO BRAVE

WERE BACK

ONLY DOWN 1.51% NOW

ITS GOLDEN BULL TIME BITCHES

>>12147988
>down less than 2%
>rough day
wrong

>>12148019
AHHHHHHHH NO MUH PORTFOLIO IT'S ALL OVER

>>12148008
No, we are at anxiety. Panic is at -70%. I linked you dummies the Reddit investing thread proving a recession was coming. You are stupid if you didn't cash out this morning.

>>12147934
please uncle Powell
Use your big p... put

>>12148021
AHAHAHA the people who panic sold

>>12148030
re link

>>12147988
baby bets out

>>12148033
AHAHAHA the people who bought the dip
ftfy.

>>12148014
It has to because Fed will halt rate hikes, right? Like the market will actually crash if they don’t, and nobody wants that.

>>12148029
>oh no I'm down twenty dollars I'll have to work for a whole hour to make it up

>>12147988
do you ever put any more money in? You've been at 1000 for months now.

>>12147900
You should 100% be using wicks when you trade.

>>12147934
kek
>Just hit me with your best shot
not
>Just hit me with your best short
missed opportunity

>>12148068
I'm down about 10k in Chinkshit lmao

>>12148068
I have my lowe's application submitted as we speak

down today, up tomorrow, who the hell cares?
The stock market will stay in turmoil for some time, just take the good with the bad and buy stuff now that it's cheap

Reminder that the boomers have not yet been told to panic sell by their MK-Ultra mindmasters on the news. Reminder the constant up and down we've been seeing is the big players slowly pulling out before they initiate the dump proper.

>>12148100
>down today
>down yesterday
>down the day before
>up .05% the day before that

>>12148045
https://www.reddit.com/r/investing/comments/a66a1g/_/ebsgrmv

The recession was obvious. I sold all my VOO and VEU at open as I said I would. Will start DCA back in at -50% from peak.

So since crypto is pumping right now I assume that a lot of money is moving from the stock market to crypto at the moment to hedge against the risk of recession.

It also makes sense when you think about all the big players who know what they are doing - during the crypto rush of 2016/2017 they probably made huge profits and then moved to the stock market because it was so bullish. Now that has reversed and they pump money back into crypto to create another rally and pull out more profit to return to the stock market. Rinse and repeat.

Is there some sort of truth to this pattern?

>>12148128
accurate.

>>12148128
true

>market crashing
>the put options ive been holding arent rising in value
This is a load of barnacles.

>>12148143
>recession stops at -47% from peak

Well fuck, I guess you'll stay out.

Don't forget the interest rate increase on Wednesday /smg/.

>>12148100
The indices are very close to February's low. A dip below that price is a mass sell signal for everyone. You don't want to be long on anything if it breaks.

S&P February low is $2532. Current price, $2557 and shaky.

So how do companies plan to pay their massive corporate debts when the interest rates go up and they can't afford the interest on their debts?

>>12147926
Really would not recommend you hold leverage in a detrimental position. It's pointless

>>12148175
:v)

>>12148165
I am flexible with my re-entry. Doesn't matter as long as I DCA in. Enjoy holding those bags.

>>12148175
the same way they always do pinkie, with tax payer money.

>>12148175
Anon, I...

>>12148169
No, uncle Powell. No.

>>12148175
just wait for the FED to start printing money again to counter the resulting deflation

>>12148164
>buy a call
price goes down
>buy a put
price goes down
>buy a strangle, straddle, iron condor, butterfly
price stays the same

So Fed will halt rate hikes?

>>12148206
Bracing myself for $100 Snickers™

>>12148175

>>12148175
Xerox's debt was downgraded to junk on Friday, peeps say many of these BBBs are similarly crap

>>12148210
Nah, tomorrow's a rate hike day.

>>12148210
No. Fed will continue to hike rates until Trump is removed from office.

>>12148234
based Fed

>>12148206
it's a big joke.

>>12148185
>>12148191
>>12148200
>>12148206
>>12148221
>>12148224
these replies do not instill any confidence

were actually fucked lol holy shit

No Italy-EU agreement for now.
https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/1074751450016817152

>>12148234
No because Powell is going to be fired and arrested for Russian collusion if he hikes rates one more time.

>>12148269
how's that black pill tasting frienderino

SPY didn't manage to pierce April lows, for now

>>12148302
>>12148302
>>12148302
NEW THREAD

Reminder that the market chaos is a direct result of Russian subversion and attempted cultural marxism.

Fight back Bulls

I believe

>>12148312
*chinese

>>12148176
I am genuinely thinking about just buying QQQ/SPY with my $1k a month additions, been investing for just under a year so I currently have around $10k split 50/50~ between SSO and QLD. They certainly are the much better idea on low volatility bull markets, but we areup and down enough right now it may be right to start lowering my leverage by buying 1x ETFs.

Im not selling though, dont want to deal with the taxes stuff and my time horizon is about 15~ years until retirement, I can wait.

Do you do any TA with the ichi cloud? The strategy might be to buy 2x ETFs when everything points bullish, and 1x ETFs when we are looking bearish. DCA into everything no matter what, keep adding principal, but leverage up and down as the markets look sketchy or ideal.

>>12148321
all commies blur together after a while desu

>Be Powell
>raise rates
>economy crashes, corporations can't afford the interest on their debts, slowdown, unemployment, recession

>lower rates
>inflation kicks in
>can barely lower them anyways since theyre still pretty low
>USD loses value
>bread starts to cost $5-$10
>purchasing power diminshes, people hoard money/gold/btc, deflation happens anyways

WHAT SHOULD THE JEWS DO?!??!!!?

>>12148269
It's almost like sovereign states are also accumulating that much debt, and when the corporate bubble bursts interest rates will continue to sky rocket based on increased volitility and risk causing shithole's like the entirety of south america, turkey Italy and greece to collapse which will further destabilize the world economy followed by a no deal brexit causing the EU to implode
haha but what's the worst that could happen

>>12148350
the best thing they can possibly do: condition citizens into being the biggest, most mindless consuming animal to keep consumer demand going strong

>>12148068
Thank god despite my massive retardation I’m only down a couple of biweekly minimum wage paychecks.

>>12148052
Its getting to a position where no matter what fed does it will drop the markets.
>raise rates
>its become the economy isnt healthy sell!
>keep rates same or lower
>it means it's really bad sell!

STOP IT

>>12148352
>>12148301
>>12148269

S O O N

>>12148352
I feel like I should be investing in non-perishables, tons of grains, good friends, a Right Wing Death Squad, and guns instead of securities. Will we even need money at that point?

When it dawns on you that’s Trump’s real master plan was to crash the banking system and world economy with no survivors.

I hope there's enough white people in America left to fight back.

>>12148518
Trump is only a turbo neocon meant to make himself and his friends richer. he doesn't care about anything else

>>12148543
Nah, he's a release valve for white anger.

>>12148552
he's that too, tbqh he's not the right leader for a country during a transitional period

Trading hard as fuck right now, Might not make it through the hour.
See you tomorrow or in the afterlife.

TQQQ Under 40$

>>12147369
I fucking love you.

>>12148312
>this is what boomers actually believe

>>12148350
Monetary policy can't save us now, anon

>>12148552
He was a bad one if that. Just brought back ultra-nationalism worldwide (even if it’s ultra civic nationalism sometimes).

What’s good for workers can sometimes turn us into pink wojaks.

>>12148888
When deflation kicks in americans will be ready to vote a fascist leader

>dow -568 pts
Have yourself...a merry little Christmas

>>12148967
When deflation kicks in Trump will probably still be president, whoever's running against him will win.

>>12148960
People get sick of being fucked with. Nothing is going to happen though until people are literally forced to use violence to survive.

>>12148833
You're buying, right?