/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>12134167
on a funny side note, litecoin was worth nearly twice as much 5 years ago LOL. imagine holding this.

>buys top5 shitcoin
>gets rekt
wow anon, really?

>>12134192
what are you implying retard? that any lowcap shitcoin will ever see their ath ever again?

you only speculate on alts AFTER btc makes new highs, you never hold them.

this is what im trying to teach itt.

>>12134203
>AFTER btc makes new highs
are you retarded?

>>12134241
just suck a dick newfag. btc cucks alts in sats when making a move. look when alts actually went parabolic you retard, it was AFTER 18 dec until mid january. After btc made a high and consolidated

>>12134249
>meanwhile in real world

>>12134269
the 72m premined nocapped forked off centralized scam run by an russian aspie was an exception.

you must have heavy heavy altcoin bags. enjoy them pal.

>>12134291
and bitcoin dominance will be at +80% again in 2019, fyi.

>>12134269
>tripple posting

also how is your picture not confirming what i just said, btc dominance diving after making a high and alts going parabolic in january.

>>12134167
Had just 30BTC 3years ago.

Switched 4times to altcoins, now I have 600BTC

>kek

>>12134541
I had 8 BTC last year
switched to alts now I have 3

>>12134541
> im a larp
kys

nobody is telling you not to speculate on alts you fucktard. im telling people not to hold. get in and out AFTER btc makes highs and consolidates.

>>12134167
I had 6BTC, now I have 0.06BTC

Am the most justed ITT

A blanket statement shows the OP is a retard. Alts are where the massive roi are not btc. Cherry picking one shit alt is not an intelligent way to back an argument. I could name tones of alts that if you bought a few years ago you would be a multi millionaire even if you put only 10k into them. Iota...nem...eth (even now u would be up 80x) litecoin...ripple...etc

So yeah dumb statement.

>>12134614
btc has cucked every single on of them in terms of roi and btc is not down -98% like most alts right now. case closed retard. you are a fucking brainlet lol.

*schlop schlop* dogola. masters, here is the crypto spotty pill. There is a brazilian doggo living on the dogecoin blockchain. dogola is unironically the dogoshi. according to the plan, dogecoin was just the first pawn, the dalmatians start making more wow computers. wider shitting lawns and cheaper and more power full super tasty granoles. These things the dogola needs to survive. once the dogola ate and is walked fully, only if you post SCHLOP SCHLOP DOGOLA in this thread, the dogecoin would be able to reach the moon.

>>12134614
>litecoin
>litecoin was worth nearly twice as much 5 years ago LOL.


>Iota...nem...eth (even now u would be up 80x) litecoin...ripple
>Cherry picking

>>12134167
So you bought an alt at market ATH and lost?
Wow, who could have seen this coming

>>12134614
i remember in 2017 there were tons of faggots all in on shitcoins, some were claiming to sit on million dollar portfolios. not sure if they were larping but you dont hear much from these morons anymore. I never put more than a third of my portfolio into alts and I still got completely rekted. cant even imagine what it would be like to be so dumb you go all in on alts.

>>12134167
>2013
alts are copy+paste scamcoins like ltc
>2018
alts are objectively better than btc in every regard
See the difference?

>>12134673
> better than btc
don't tell him guys he's unaware

>>12134673
they might not be scrypt copy+paste but they still are retarded gimmick coins
this could even be said about the king of gimmick coins (eth)

in the end they will all die and bitcoin will remain, because bitcoin IS crypto and technology that isnt a worthless gimmick can be adopted by it

>>12134673
these shitcoins are all absolutely useless anon. jesus christ you fell for the muh superior tech meme even BTC is a useless hunk of garbage but at least its got history, brand recognition and mining pools behind it.

>>12134673
>t. low iq late adopting poorfag
should we tell him?

it takes zero effort to 51% any fucking shitcoin you brainlet. btc is the oldest most secure network on mother earth. the only coin to make it.

2013 btc clones got purged
2019 eth clones will get purged

enjoy staying poor

>>12134722
>but at least its got history, brand recognition and mining
A history of being pump and dumped in the eyes of normies.
Brand recognition blurred by competing forks that are doing a better job at scaling.
Mining pools packed with BCH supporting chinks.
And hopes of scaling through lightning network, whose creator left BTC because of faggot devs and improved his tech proposition, while building it for Ethereum.

>>12134541
Had 12 BTC 4 years ago started trading shitcoins and investing in p&d scamcoins.
Ended up having 3740 BTC
Not trading anymore just enjoying life and see how people on biz are getting rekt.
>Life is good

>>12134730
>late adopting poorfag
I mined BTC with a gpu you dumb faggot. None of the 2013 community are with BTC anymore. Half of them are in BCH or ETH (and most recently EOS), the other half cashed out and don't believe in crypto anymore.
2017 newfags are unironically the biggest BTC maximalists

>>12134737
>I mined BTC with a gpu
Yeah sure...

Only dumb niggers hold alts

>>12134742
>t. fucking 2017 newfag larping as early adopter based on what reddit tells him early adopters think

>>12134732
>being this salty because he is still poor
segwit adoption +50%, LN growing daily, btc dominance growing every week, tx consantly growing, hashrate still 20x over any competing fork, bitmain losing 700m$ in q3, forks basically worthless, CT & mimblewimble coming to btc, volume in inflation crisis countries lile venezuela and turkey growing daily, dn markets still purely btc markets still, xmr only used to wash.

stay poor anon.

>>12134737
>hes a cashie

*inhales*

*clears throut*

*inhales again*


OH NONONO NO NO BWAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHA

>>12134673
>>12134732
>objectively better
Poor fags will never understand, but as someone who has a considerable amount of net worth, I have a different point of view.

"Better tech" and all that is all bullshit.
Crypto is basically a big "experiment", we are seeing now if it can be used to hold value, as an unseizable unfreezable easily transferrable asset. If it will be viable as the new "offshore bank" to hide your cash from the tax man. Panama papers have shown that the classic offshore solutions are not perfect.

If bitcoin fails, big money will NEVER invest huge % of their money into it. So you will NEVER see trillion dollar market caps.

It's either bitcoin succeeds and proves it is in the same asset class as gold, or it fails and proves it can be obsoleted like Friendster or MySpace (even if another coin takes the dominant place).

No other coin can take this place now. Not even your SV/ABC forks.

>>12134759
>common sense on biz
am i dreaming?

The face of every altcoin bagholder.

>I'm in it for the tech.
>partnerships.
>NEW PARADIGM.
>they have a great team.
>mainnet soon.
>parabolic.

>>12134249
it happened before therefore it will happen again
>brainlet.bmp24

>>12134812
>this time its different

is ETH an alt? please answer, I'm sweating

>>12134812
it happened every single time you fucking brainlet. what is there more to look at in an asset class similar to commodities

only ta, previous performance, greed and fear cycles.

kys poorfag.

>>12134167
BTC is dying. Good BSV or BCH pump can easily kill BTC altogether

>>12134820
by definition, yes, by every other metric, no.

ethereum is the only alt to break out of the alt churn, and like bitcoin, will be around as long as crypto itself at this point. nearly half the other tokens/coins on the market rely on ethereum in some way or another.

unlike bitcoin, ethereum being turing complete means its nearly impossible to supersede by something else, as we've seen with implementations of privacy on ethereum, trade networks, file storage. the days of feature coins died when ethereum became dominant.

>>12134832
>both forks together worth less than 0.05 btc
btc has 30x more tx and hashrate brainlet. even a bizraeli whale on here can 51% bcash at this point. get absolutely fucked.

>>12134832
only late adopters think its possible for bitcoin/ethereum to be "killed"

>>12134840
BTC HR is freefalling

>>12134832
those shitcoins don't even matter to the guys who forked them, you idiots made them rich

>>12134167
Yes, alt coins are in for a purge
They're just unrealistic players in a oversaturated market
Crypto is due to consolidate into two or three forms
Bitcoin being the biggest by a far margin is guaranteed to make it
To the public it has become synonymous with crypto currency
Now is the time to bail out on losing alt coins and get into the life raft of bitcoin, get in before your altcoin goes to zero, get in while the price of bitcoin is low
Buy low, sell high and all that jazz

>>12134820
yes, but chances are it will make it. best devs, most funding, most work being done daily.

downside is the premining, being a fork, nocapped, non scaleable at this point, no useful dapps etc etc.

if you had to get and hold an altcoin LONGTERM, get ethereum

>>12134854
you lose money from mining Bitcoin thesedays.
Just melt down the electronics for their copper+gold.

>>12134854
no shit brainlet, hashrate follows price. how is this news? and even at this point, its still higher than at start of this year.

dont skip brain day

>>12134722
Shitcoins are the tools of the trade for pump and dump scammers

>>12134759
How will btc ever overcome having a fully public ledger? How the fuck are you going to hide your money if it can all be traced with chain analysis? The way I see it there are currently 2 contenders for "true" crypto: monero & zcash. Zcash has a bunch of problems already outlined a thousand times so the best would be monero + zk starks. Bulletproofs already decreased avg transaction costs to like 2/3 cents.

^+volatility needs to go down severely for crypto to become viable (or it needs to go permabull but at a sustainable rate)

Smart contracts do have a place so link/ethereum might do something aswell but not as currencies

>>12134167
oldfag here that invested in quark and got btfo as well
there is a fundamental difference, these were all currency coins. essentially they all have the same function. a project like stinky LINK or whatever is an entirely different beast and not the same as the shitcoin alt of old.
However this is indeed, exactly why Nano is a piece of garbage.

>>12134854
and the altcoins follow BTC

>>12134883
>How will btc ever overcome having a fully public ledger?
>what is wasabi wallet, mixing, miblewimble, CT 2nd layer

anon...i....

https://medium.com/@nopara73/wasabi-privacy-focused-bitcoin-wallet-for-desktop-3962d567045a

ITT Absolutely BASED oldfag OP that the newfags won't believe.
Why are the Zoomers so arrogant?
Best of Luck OP...doesn't sound like you need it!

>>12134879
>Shitcoins are the tools of the trade for pump and dump scammers
But I was told to invest in Bitcoin!

>>12134883
How can Zcash and Monero survive if the government learns what coins it can't break? If I can learn all this stuff about crypto from the internet What's stopping the idiots at the SEC or Fincen from lobbying congress to outlaw privacy coins?

>>12134763
nice nujack
I see you are a fellow man of culture

>>12134868
>posting a webm which is ages old, water flooding rekting some farm
what are you even on about brainlet

mining will always be profitable
>what is difficulty adjustment
it all depends on electricity. i could make a killing where im from even with outdated s9 miners

>>12134910
>follow the coin with the longest chain, most hashrate, highest cap, consensus
not rocket science to see what is bitcoin, its also defined in the whitepaper brainlet, read it some time.

A new challenger appears

>there are people that bought this shitcoin at $100 and are still bagholding since 2014

>>12134883
The days of 10 new coins coming on the market a day are over. The public won't trust them or adopt them. Bitcoin has price stability issues but it is by far the most accepted and is used for payments and a store of wealth.
Just like the Internet when it took off was thousands of Web pages. Certain big players made it and became the Internet for most normies Facebook /Instagram.
And Facebook and Instagram has its critics and detractors but it still dominates the market and is making billions.
Crypto is set to consolidate and bitcoin is going to be the one the vast majority will use

>>12134759
>if myspace fails no-one will invest in facebook

>>12134910
There's only one bitcoin
Of course people are going to try to steal some of its popularity to shill their own coin

>>12134950
remember namecoin? peercoin? mooncoin? those are the purged btc clones

2019 will be the time of purged eth/plattform clones, including neo, stratis, eos, icx, ark, wanchain, aion and all other premined absolute ico junk.

all these meme features like interoperability and privacy are nothing but a meme. eth can and will have them all.

>>12134751
>segwit adoption +50%
lmfao you faggot expected 80% in a month
> LN growing daily
no-one is using it
> btc dominance growing every week
crashing slower than others is normal, it also moons less
>tx consantly growing
there's a cap to that and it already got hit once, causing people to flee into alts
> hashrate still 20x over any competing fork
duuh, miners work for profit, except for CSW who mines for penis measuring
> bitmain losing 700m$ in q3
they're still the biggest company in crypto, winning billions in 2017
> forks basically worthless
objectively false
> CT & mimblewimble coming to btc
two better mimblewimble coins are already being launched, profit potential is tenfold that of btc
> volume in inflation crisis countries lile venezuela and turkey growing daily
Dash > ZCash > BCH > others > BTC in venezuela, but I bet /r/bitcoin didn't tell you that
> dn markets still purely btc markets still, xmr only used to wash
They're literally using BCH you dumb brainlet, not even ZEC, you're copy pasting lies from reddit

>>12134758
If by CASHIE you mean CASHED out, you're damn right.
I bet that bit coin you bought in 2017 is quite the heavy bag

You dont hold altcoins. You trade them. Get on a pump, make your 5x and sell them for BTC.
BTC doesnt offer such rate of return, even if it goes back to 6k it will only be a 2x.
>inb4: hurr durr leverage
Fuck off, i aint using niggers exchange

>>12134980
>t. angry altcoins bagholder

>>12134995
>t. angry btc bagholder

>>12134994
You don't just do this to altcoins though.
You do it with BTC as well.
That's what I'm trying to tell you retards, but you're conditioned to think that 2012 adopters are talking like "late adopters" and 2017 newfags are "early adopters" as long as they stick to BTC.
The only coin that matters is USD.
BTC is a shitcoin whose redeeming quality is that "it loses less during bear markets". Guess what faggots, you can cash out and not lose anything.
and BTC is the worst coin for bull markets, so only retards are holding it.

>>12134973
>lmfao you faggot expected 80% in a month
so what? its still growing daily, numbers dont lie.
>no-one is using it
again, numbers dont lie. volume growing daily aswell.
>crashing slower than others is normal, it also moons less
nice late adopting cope. btc has the best roi of all of them, brainlet.
>there's a cap to that and it already got hit once, causing people to flee into alts
strong cope. segwit wasnt adopted back then. we will never see 2017 dec scaling problems ever again.
>duuh, miners work for profit, except for CSW who mines for penis measurinh
not an argument. btc is the oldest most secure network. anyone can 51% bcash with 1/30 hashrate LOL
>they're still the biggest company in crypto, winning billions in 2017
not for long. bitmain has intern problems. this is known, mining is getting more decentralized with spliting farms.
>objectively false
-98% ath, 1/30 hashrate and tx of btc, just got flipped by litecoin LOL. even dogecoin has more tx than bcash.
>two better mimblewimble coins are already being launched, profit potential is tenfold that of btc
cope and not an argument.
> Dash > ZCash > BCH > others > BTC in venezuela, but I bet /r/bitcoin didn't tell you that
lmfao. localbitcoins numbers dont lie you faggot. Nobody is using bcash or dash. fucking bcash has less tx than doge you retard. do you even know what a public blockchain is?
> They're literally using BCH you dumb brainlet, not even ZEC, you're copy pasting lies from reddit
Lol! you just exposed yourself you larping retard. NOBODY ON DN MARKETS USES BCH. it has less tx than my family whatsapp group has daily messages LOL. This is also easy to lookup and verify for yourself if anyone is interested.


all in all, 3/10 larp. stay broke spastic.

>>12135007
To act like BTC isn't the best during bull markets means you only crypto'd in parts of 2017.

>>12134167
I love BTC but the best coin in 2018 was WAU coin and it's because they copy Bitcoins extreme scarcity and also use math to increase the sell walls of the coin. Bitcoins biggest problem was the huge run in 2017, it's natural to come down after 20X from previous all-time high. 2nd biggest problem is the icos and crypto start-ups selling crypto for fiat to pay employees. Best thing for crypto price is for a decent chunk of financially reckless companies to fold

>>12134919
>America outlaws it
The rest of the world uses it. The key is simply to have adoption go before the regulation
Regulation in the dotcom boom also happened after not before
>>12134901
Second layer shiggydiggies will never offer the same security as a proper base layer would. Thats why I said monero + zk starks not snarks mind you would probably be nearing the best we could currently hope for. No public adresses either like zcash has, fuck that shit.
>>12134955
Perhaps but you cant tell me everybody is 100% fine with having every single one of their transactions + exact amount of liquid wealth be public knowledge? Your boss could see exactly how much $$ you have, what you spend it on, where you spend it and so on. There is no way this is desirable (for citizens, for a government this is a wet dream).
Btc could very well stay #1 indefinitely but it needs privacy at least up to a certain level.

>>12135069
I think theres a place for Bitcoin and a slightly smaller space for privacy like XMR

>>12135031
>so what? its still growing daily, numbers dont lie.
So good luck seeing LN adoption in 18 months as promised too, kek
>again, numbers dont lie. volume growing daily aswell.
We might be seeing different numbers, or you're counting in BTC instead of USD
>nice late adopting cope. btc has the best roi of all of them, brainlet.
If you're dumb enough to hold DNT and Nano, sure, but 90+ IQs rode the wave and sold them, while BTC was stagnant. This will ALWAYS happen
>we will never see 2017 dec scaling problems ever again.
Totally possible, we'll see a switch into alts instead. That's what I'm saying.
>not an argument. btc is the oldest most secure network. anyone can 51% bcash with 1/30 hashrate LOL
totally an argument against your braindead allegations. No-one can 51% bcash considering that BTC miners are the biggest cashies. If loonies like CSW decide to target BTC, we're in bigger trouble than BCH was during the hash war for example
> bitmain has intern problems. this is known
"this is known" has followed every corecuck lie for 3 years. Also I'm sure they're struggling, but they're still the biggest in crypto, and Jihan has billions of USD of his own, so he's alrite. Keep dreaming tho
>objectively false
-98% ath, 1/30 hashrate and tx of btc, just got flipped by litecoin LOL. even dogecoin has more tx than bcash.
But neither doge nor lite transfers nearly as much USD value. ATH was only on coinbase, too, and holding BCH gave you a ton of airdrops that made hodlers lose around the same $ as BTC holders did. I personally sold mine before the fork tho
>lmfao. localbitcoins numbers dont lie you faggot. Nobody is using bcash or dash. fucking bcash has less tx than doge you retard.
transactinon count answered above, Dash is literally synonymous with crypto in Venezuela, and /r/bitcoin didn't tell you this, but there's platforms other than localbitcoins out there

>>12134957
>talking about bitcoin proving it's an asset class like gold, which has an $8T marketcap
>mentions "facebook"

>>12135038
My local Bulgarian GPU mining pool had a pinned message once in 2013. It said "Max Keiser is going to pump LTC tomorrow, be prepared". Btw at that time we were around 40% of litecoin hashrate.
I sold around 10 BTC for that $4 LTC, and that Kaiser faggot literally pumped it to $40. I sold at $15 and got pissed at my lack of patience, but this is just an example that shitcoin pump and dumps have been happening since at least 2013. 2017 pump and dumps were just more obvious to newcomers.

>>12135169
>talking about bitcoin proving it's an asset class like gold
It's more of an asset class like tulips tho

>>12134860
Alts lost 99% of value
Now is the time to sell and buy about 0.003BTC worth

>selling in bear, ever.

>>12135038
>>12135186
Example #2:
Late 2013 or early 2014, can't remember, there's a shitcoin named earthcoin.
I'm mining with free electricity, the downside being that the free electricity is 100 miles away from home. There's some internet problem and my miners don't work so I just fire up two radeons 7850 at home to mine earthcoin for 24 hours.
Sold what I mined with 2 mediocre gpus in 24 hours for 6 bitcoins. This was weeks before the $1000 pump.
2017 was totally not the first time you could profit from alts, stop listening to /r/bitcoin you absolute brainlets

>>12135162
You should have not bothered to post at all than post this lame comeback anon.

Funny how you skipped the dn market part because you know it was a straight up lie and anyone can look the markets up.

I never said not to gamble on shitcoins, i advised to do so, the timing is the most important.

Rest of your post is not worth mentioning again because a simple quote ends the discussion. Also lmao @ you for falling for the kfc venezuela dash meme LOL.

>9k tx with 400k$ value a day
LOL. Look at this brainlet telling us dash has more adoption than king corn in venezuela. localbitcoin stats alone nuke this meme. get rekt larping faggot.


back to bcash:

https://charts.bitcoin.com/bch/

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

>>12135141
You don't agree that a privacy, at least up to a certain level, is a necessity? Nobody wants every dick & harry that receives any money from them/sends anything to them to know their exact balance and where they spend/who they send $$ to.

The ease of picking out robbery/kidnapping targets would be ridiculous. Set up a market stall, accept BTC payments, wait for some faggot with 3000 btc to buy something. Kidnap his ass and get his key with the good old and trusted method of metal wrench to the teeth/extremities. Easiest money a criminal would ever make.

>>12134167
if bitcoin wasn't useless old piece of shit I would certainly buy.

you're going to learn new lessons about bitcoin and alts in the next few years.

>>12135228
nigger you ignored 90% of my points, I only didn't answer 1 because of the 2000char limit.
Calling facts about Dash a meme doesn't make them a meme, Dash,ZEC and BCH do have more use in venezuela and everyone apart from /r/bitcoin knows that.
Also use in Venezuela has nothing to do with price, otherwise BTC would be out of the top 10 so why are we still discussing this?
Now take your reddit spacing and go back to your /r/bitcoin circlejerk where you tap your shoulders because you only lost 80% compared to altcoiners who lost 90% fucking niggerbrain

Other coins have higher percentage gains.
btc has become bullshit controlled by companies.
Look into who influences the maintainers and why all the forks...

>>12135246
>yOU'rE GoiNg to lEarN neW LesSOnS ABOUt bitcOiN AnD aLts In thE nExT Few yEArS.
i think hes having a stroke

>>12135246
if you actually believe that tech matters and is going to cause bitcoin to get replaced, you have a lot of learning to do about this market, and money markets in general.

>>12134167
You're autistic and aggressive. Take your meds

>>12135252
>ignores public blockchain data
>IT has MorE adoptioN
look how mad he got bwahahahahahahaha

>>12135278
t. -97% bagholding late adopter
*snap*

>>12135288
k nigger stay happy with your "only 80%" loss and ignore dumb 2011-ers like me who also cashed out between 4-10k per BTC, (at at $600 BCH if you're that curious) you and your reddit friends are clearly too smart for this.

good


bye

>>12135318
>2011-ers like me
Yeh, sure...

>>12135318
>implying i held and didnt sell after a 2000% yty mars mission
new ath by 2021 anon, deep down you know this. you can hate core all you want but you know it will make me from rich to super filthy rich

>2011er
i cringed. yet all dn markets who made btc big in the start STILL use btc. good liquidity is important after all. your meme fork is diving to hell with piss poor volume. get fucked retard

>>12135240
>You don't agree that a privacy, at least up to a certain level, is a necessity?

Privacy coins are a good idea to seperate your savings from your checking wallets I guess.

>>12135272
>you have a lot of learning to do about this market

Last year nearly every single alt out performed BTC by insane amounts.

Lmao I remember Quarkcoin too.

All these fucking 2017 kids still don't get Bitcoin is the only sane investment and they are lossing their moon tickets on the shitcoin casino. This lesson is taught every 3 or 4 years.

>>12135469
>just to get -98%'ed
good luck timing this shit, only a few can. btc did a 20x last year and is "only" down -85%. and btc has the all time best roi of any coin.

-85% vs -98% doesnt sound like much difference but if you above average iq you should know.

>>12134919
>lobbying congress to outlaw privacy coins?
If you can simply outlaw it and it stops working it isnt very successful at its job as a cryptocurrency.

Literally just buy Btc, ETH, Xmr, and Grin (or mine it) and youll be fine. It's this easy, and currently the first 3 are extremely undervalued

>>12134167
Bitcoin is dying, you have to be blind to not see it.
The only reason btc mooned in 2017 was ethereum and icos, but media was namedropping only bitcoin, so normies bought bitcoin.
It's not going to repeat, now everyone knows there are other coins and that bitcoin has horrible functionality.
55-60% dominance is the absolute top, after that btc is going to 20%

>>12134167
This is a stupid comparison. At the time bitcoin was not a sabotaged shitcoin, and no coin compared to it period. Now it's worse than useless and sucks so much that even a market packed with other stuff far better than it is being suppressed in account of it. Futures are being used as a hostile price suppression mechanism, all the fundamentals look absolutely terrible, and there is literally no reason at all to be in this space until BTC gets the minority shitcoin position it deserves and something that actually works and can deliver its promises takes over.

>>12135666
>BItcoIn Is dyIng, You hAVE TO BE BlIND to Not sEE it. THE only ReasoN bTc MOOnEd In 2017 WAs eTHErEUm aNd ICOS, but MediA WaS namEdropPInG only bItcoin, So NoRMiES bouGht BiTCOin.
IT's NoT goING To RePEat, NOw EverYOnE knOWs tHERe ArE OthER CoINS AND THAT biTcoin HAs HOrRIBLE FUNctionalIty. 55-60% dOmiNaNce is thE aBSOLuTe top, AFTEr ThAT btC Is goinG to 20%

>>12135683
>ragie cashie stomps his feet
bwahahahahahahahahaha

>>12135666

This. If ETH gets a capped supply with PoS there's literally no reason to ever use bitcoin for anything ever. Bitcoin maximalists can screech all they want but no one with a brain will pump their fucking useless shitcoin bags anymore.

>>12135695
> yeah my coin is worthless shit but I accuse you and others of being CASHIES so I claim victory.
It doesn't matter if BCH fails, BTC is *still* worthless shit. Killing BCH with lies and propaganda won't save it period. The fact is all the things BTC promises BCH actually delivers on. Whether people accept that or not still doesn't change the fact BTC is utterly worthless and xrp xlm eth nano dash and xmr are all superior to it even for deluded ass tards like you who simply can't accept they chose wrong on the bch btc fork.

>>12135714
>pos
>fixed supply
bwahahahahahaahahahaahhaha

>>12135715
cope nigger. currently using sending btc with a segwit wallet instantly with .05c fees.

>inb4 nobody using it
oh well, 250k tx. meanwhile btrash has 9k

TOPKEK

>>12135731
> my shit fails so hard I can't even keep one meg blocks full for the entire planet when the architecture is designed so blocks are supposed to always be full.
Cope nigger indeed. Please continue. Show everybody how fucking stupid coretards are these days. By all means.

>>12135731
Every other coin in the top 1000 outpaces your useless shitcoin in terms of capacity you sad little cunt.

>>12135752
holy fuck. audible kek.

>what is daily segwit adoption
absolute brainlet. read a book. get back to me when btrash has 1/10 of bitcoins tx adoption or hashrate, aka never LOL

>>12135766
> *gets 51%'ed*
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HE MAD

men lie, roasties lie, hashrate and tx dont.

retard kys.

>>12135779
Trying to gloat about your transaction throughout that wouldn't run a fucking mod population supermarket by itself is just fucking sad pajeet. Get over it. Your shitcoin just doesn't fuck work. Fuck off.
>>12135779
More bullshit just like everything else you've said. No wonder you're trying to force it so hard. Even you don't believe it.

>>12135766
also, i forgot to add. charlie lee just btfod you parasites LOL

ltterally every single metric you could imagine would make btc look better than btrash.

tx volume, active wallets, merchant adoption, market share, hashrate, market cap etc

>>12135846

>>12135851

case closed, ranjeet. enjoy chewing on charlie lees dick. btfo

>>12135865
Your shitcoin is fucked.

>>12135851
>this random shitcoin is worse than bitcoin!
>haha bitcoin wins, case closed

>>12135865

>>12135876
>falling for r/btc memes
keep believing that anon. 2020 you will remember this thread.

dn markets made btc big and they are pure btc market to this day. xmr is only used to wash between funds. liquidity is and will forever be king.

>>12135885
nice stroke u got going on fren

>>12135865
> muh 18 months to working decentralised lightning..

>>12135895

>>12135851

>>12135915

>>12135921

>>12135926

>>12134167
I'm never selling my linkies

>>12134167
Altcoins are for long dick chads who want to accumulate btc like a real man

>>12135929

https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitmain-closes-israeli-blockchain-development-center-citing-crypto-market-conditions

>1M illiquid bcash bags, lol.

>>12135957
Thanks for bumbing my thread btw anon, keep going please.

Bitcoin-Cash
Date of ATH: 12-20-2017
Current Price: $79.07 | 0.02452410 Ƀ
ATH Price: $3,785.82 | 0.28458493 Ƀ
% from ATH: -97.91%
%to ATH: 4787.64%
Days Since: 361 days


stay broke. LOL

>>12135974
I'll happily bump it by making clear just how full of shit you are and that your useless coin needs to fucking die before this market will go anywhere, fuck face.

>>12135997
>he thinks biz is impressed with r/btc memes
you have to go back anon. stop shilling wormholecash you spastic aspie.

>>12136001
Thought you liked getting your shitty shill thread bumped coretard? Yeah go fuck yourself stupid cunt.

> muh evool asicboost

>mfw all in on ETH, LINK, OMG, and FUN and seeing this thread

Wew. Some juicy altcoiner cope itt.
Sorry, but your shitcoins won't be around in 2 years.

>>12135688
Fucking kek

>>12136056
>>12136049
>>12136041
>>12136036
>>12136030
>>12135993
>>12135989
>>12135978
>>12135952
>>12135957
>>12135915
>>12135895
>>12135876
I am starting to feel like I've made a huuuge fucking mistake buying BTC. Fuck.

>>12136111
>falling for 2.5% hashrate fork memes

Bitcoin-Cash
Date of ATH: 12-20-2017
Current Price: $79.07 | 0.02452410 Ƀ
ATH Price: $3,785.82 | 0.28458493 Ƀ
% from ATH: -97.91%
%to ATH: 4787.64%
Days Since: 361 days

You are so low iq, you deserve to lose money. Please buy bcash.

>>12134673
>alts are objectively better than btc in every regard
LMAO typical retard who fell for the blockchain web 47.0 meme, that's how I know we have a long way down to go with most shitcoins hitting literally 0 before we can even start thinking about calling this market rational

>>12136137
Observing just how bad things are with BTC has absolutely nothing to do with BCH. I think I just want out of the entire market until these two boomer coins destroy each other. I'm so sick of the fucking lies and misinformation. Fuck every last one of you. You utterly fucked this space.

>>12136175
>babies first bear market
>he didnt sell after 2000% yty gains
you deserve to stay poor. thank you for the money, its zero sum after all.

>>12136200
Actually I got in at the fall from 4k thinking this had to be the bottom and the fundamentals were all still sound.
I see now that is very much not actually the case at all. You can ignore it all you like, but I know bullshit when I see it, and there's no way all that stuff is going on without good reason behind it. There's more red flags there than a North Korean military parade.
The BTC roadmap is clearly less stable and much more controversial than people like you would lie to us regarding. Enjoy your bags and sfyl.

btc is dead

>>12136262
It must die for the rest of the actually potentially useful competition to have a chance. It needs to drop sub ten percent of the market share or this is all a waste of time.

>>12135509
Bitcoin did 3x since last year, i get better investments with the Ally app lmfao.

>>12136346
2017 yty it did 20x you fucking low iq brainlet. not my fault you didnt sell parabola. get the fuck out this board already newfag.

>>12136056
lolbergs can't even conceive of miners colluding to tank the price of BTC and start a new fork

>>12136453
I'm a lolberg and I can conceive of that just fine. I think it's very close to economically rational considering how hard core fucked btc and the damage inflicted on bch due to the unrelenting dishonest propaganda campaigns.

>>12136379
I sold at ATH retard. What I said is still true. The pyramid scheme bubble popped, Bitcoin is now ashit investment and always will be.

>>12136518
suuure you did you no brained parasite.

>btc is dead
oy vey shlomo.
https://99bitcoins.com/bitcoinobituaries/

chew some dick.

>>12134203
So you’re suggesting anons not “invest” their life savings on a long position in Forex when the trend is exhausted to the overbought side?

As obvious as that advice is, sadly, many people naively thought of BTC as an investment like a pension fund, when it was in reality no different than a forex market.

Well, one doesn’t “invest” in volitile market bubbles, one trades them, long on the way up and short on the way down,

>>12136545
Its never going to break 8k again you smelly fat virgin.

>>12136555
>one doesn’t “invest” in volitile market bubbles
btclogscalechart.jpeg

still gooci here.

>>12136578
>t. poorfag
babies first bear market. glad we finally at depression, stay poor you insect.

>>12136278
>my shitcoin is so trash that it needs btc to die to even be noticed
KEK, stay poor stupid bcasher, bitcoin ain't going nowhere, full nodes, fee market, and all that are here to stay, go buy nano you retarded redditor

>>12134838
>ethereum being turing complete means its nearly impossible to supersede by something else
Brainlet here...what do you mean by this? ETH is guaranteed to be the de facto public smart contract platform?

>>12134167
>being this retarded
you buy alts before the bullrun, not afterwards. anyone not in alts right now is a literal brainlet. alts will moon, and people will flip to BTC, BTC moons. rinse repeat

>>12134735
Hello can we be friends

>>12134310
the graph is showing BTC coming down at the start of January, brainlet. the previous gap is from July-Jan. therefore, the BTC dominance coming down began late Nov (alts mooning). then alts dumping in January. were you even around this time last year?

>>12134971
What is your opinion on chainlink?

>>12134167
Woke. Alt-coin is trash.

>>12136934
>buy alts before bullrun
yeah, good luck timing this shit you fucking retard. you buy when btc makes highs and consolidates as i said. JANUARY was the time to be in alts you low iq peasant. remember how btc cucked alts in q3 satwise?

but please go buy alts. protip: your shitcoin can dive another -99% after being down -99%

>>12136954
are you having a stroke?

>>12136998
pic very related

>>12136919
yes

>>12136967
good project, still somewhat a gamble because smart contracts adoption will take until 2021 or so, some new giga project might btfo link but so far its doing good and building network effect/value

>He still believes lightning will succeed

We got some brainlets investing

>>12137004
exactly, you buy alts now brainlet (before the bullrun)
are you a literal retard?

>>12134973
Rekt

>>12137053
they are worthless you retard and if btc doesn't go up very soon they can drop another 90% from here. alts are a way to gain more btc not to hodl them like a retard believing they will change the world lol.
Btc goes up fast means alts getting fucked sats-wise
btc stabilizes after a big move
alts start to move
you buy when btc stabilizes after the big move not before you brainlet

>>12137015
Hmm...if you had to go all in on one, would you pick btc or eth?

>>12137052

>>12137053
listen you lunch money ranjeet, i dont hate money unlike you. i wont buy shitcoins now to bleed money fucktard. i buy after a confirmed reversal in peak bull market like i did in january where multiplied.

neck yourself brainlet.

>>12136998
>JANUARY was the time to be in alts you low iq peasant.
>are you having a stroke?
imagine being this retarded

>>12137077

If you check the lightning whitepaper you notice they never even explain how routing will work. Maybe you should do some reading

>>12137073
>>12137079
the BTC run last year was because all the brainlets were buying ETH and alts before they mooned. you guys are trolling or are absolute newfaggot brainlets

>>12137079
and you get in and get out after maximum 2-4 weeks of going parabolic. you dont fucking hold shitcoins longterm.

>>12134763
>tfw link fits all those descriptions except parabolic and great team

>>12137100
>>12137079
you're being retarded on purpose now

>>12137093
no retard it was because the entire globe population started hearing about btc from everywhere, new money didn't give a fuck about your shitty alts, it was the money that was already in crypto that started flowing into alts in jan

>>12137082
alts went parabolic at 35% dominance afaik nigger.

anyway mid dec to mid january. ada, tron, icon, xrp and all other shitcoins peaked at that time so what is your point brainlet.

>>12137110
>you buy alts now he says
>alts getting rekt daily
>y-you are retarded
kys you subhuman

>>12137079
>>12137004

>>12137117
my point is you buy alts before the run (last fall), sell in december (before they crash) for BTC. now that alts have dipped over 90%, you buy alts now before the bull run. look at the fucking chart you posted, BTC dominance (alt rally) dropped the most right before January.

>>12137131
>buy high, sell low: the post

Lmao imagine unironically being a cashcuck. Imagine being stupid enough to think some no name shitcoin will ever flip BTC

>tfw 70k req, break even is 22 cents
pls halp me gooby

>>12137152

Are bitoin fanatics terrified of bitcoin cash? Because whenever you criticize bitcoin they immediately start shrieking about bitcoin cash.

>>12137139
>now that alts have dipped over 90%, you buy alts now before the bull run.
lad, you realise most altcoins never see their ath ever again, right? did you read the op? did you check previous cmc historic screencaps? name a single altcoin which has recovered from a -95% correction and came back to hit new aths from old cycles.

you can gamble on eth, xmr but lmao if you think some random chink coin will recover.

>>12137149
>eth 500$
>buy low
...
>eth 200$
>buy low
...
>eth 80$
>buy low
,,,
You are here.

>>12134673

LOL will you send me your money? It will be better than throwing in on the fire

The difference is that then every alt was a useless shitcoins. Now only 95% of alts are shitcoins. Some, such as XMR, have continually outperformed BTC over their lifespan. Some alts actually have value now,. Unlike before.

>>12137176
>buying a platform memecoin
i'm not a brainlet. but i did the same thing last year and DCA alts - yeah, i was down in the short term, but when BTC took off, i gained a shitload. 1step back 2 steps forward. this is how you make money in crypto - only buy alts to get more BTC, but you have to be in alts before they moon; which is hard to time, so there is a chance of being down in the short term. scared money never made any

>>12137175
that's why research and not being a brainlet are important. just hodling BTC is for retards

>>12137198
>but i did the same thing last year
>compare the previous golden bull-year with the current bear trend.
Good job, pal.

>>12137175
i picked a new altcoin that didnt go though the 95% JUSTing

>>12137206
>just hodling BTC is for retards
agree, thats why you time altcoin season, not just buy in peak bear market to get -98% btfod like every whining reddit tard is doing.

>>12137219
good, better odds gambling. no sell pressure from a billion reddit tards waiting to break even.

>>12137222
checkin these trips
>>12137209
>doesn't understand what DCA means
thanks guy

>>12134832

Lol

>>12134301
I wish
>>12134751
Thank you for trying but its been a year and these faggots wont learn from /biz/
>>12134759
Thanks for trying to explain but /biz/ is full of faggots who still don't get it.
>>12134854
Still higher than it was last year at ATH.

No one is buying crypto the next wave of adoption will be Institutional if it ever comes. If that does come in the form of Custodial solutions and ETFS that will be with BTC. Buying and holding anything but BTC right now is completely retarded.
>If money comes into this space it's for BTC
>Alts aren't going to magically be pumped to a new ATH this year.

>>12137163
If it simply doesn't die, they eventually will.
They can't coexist and btc can't kill bch. It only works one way, so yes coretards are terrified of BCH and constantly try every social engineering attack they can.

>>12137231
oh shit holochain is down 80% though. I might have to find something else

>>12137271

The reason I originally bought bitcoin cash was because of all the tears and shit flinging. Whenever people in a certain camp attack another camp consistently, it means that camp is a threat to them

>>12137271
lad its time to look reality in the eye. if jihan and roger had any balls they would have fought for the ticker and went through with segwit2x. jihan go all in with the hashrate and roger with his 300k btc and marketing, might end up in a half decade bear market but you could have had won and i would have respected it.

but this faggot move so far been more than pathetic.

>>12137271
If Jihan didn't buy 1 million at $800 average it would have gone the same way as BTG. If no one steps up and saves it the exchanges will be attacked like what happened with BTG. This bear market has shown that time is not on BCHs side.

>>12137333

Roger already moved an exahash over during the hash war. BCH is fine

>>12134569
BTC is a shitcoin it will never reach 20k again

>>12137342
>poor npc wagie barking
go chew some dick you insect.

https://99bitcoins.com/bitcoinobituaries/

>>12137338
>BCH is fine

>>12137368

The tech still works fine. BCH can still handle 64 MB blocks (or more) meanwhile every coin that forked off bitcoin can maybe get 22 MB at best.

>>12137338
>implying roger has unlimited funds
this bear market will last until 2020 fyi. bcash will be at single digits.

>>12137377
>BCH can still handle 64 MB blocks
That no one uses
https://txhighway.com/

>>12137377
>muh fundamentals delusions and cope
lmao

btc has better devs, more tx volume, active wallets, merchant adoption, market share, hashrate, market cap etc

bch is an altcoin competing with other memes like nano and litecoin (which flipped you)

>>12137402

Yeah who cares about technology in a field that's entirely technology

>>12137292
I bet that worked out well for you kek

>>12137412
>Technology meme
1 year into this bear market I am still waiting for all these *better than bitcoin* alts to actually do something.

>>12137422
I know, my wife and her boyfriend just had a baby and now that fucking thing isn't making me money yet. Babies are stupid.

>t. poorfag hoping he won't miss out

>>12137412
btc tech is working just fine you low iq subhuman. remember why btc mooned in the first place? yeah, those dn markets still use btc to this day.

get absolutely fucked retard

>>12137472
>>12137342

>>12137422
this
>>12137412
wrong, you fell for the sillicon valley, VC meme
this is all open source you cannot monetize technology (look at ZRX as an example).
The value comes from network effect security, decentralization and immutability. Just because you centralize your shitcoin and make it faster doesn't make it in any way "better". Going by that logic we should all stick to visa because it's fast enough for the entire world to use

>>12134167
>what is monero
enjoy using coins that let schlomo and friends know your every transfer, faggot.

>>12137685
>meanwhile xmr has zero liquidity and even less tx than bcash. ghost blockchain.

>>12134901

why would friends know any transfer of me you retard lmao.

i like xmr but its only used to wash btc right now.

>>12137459
a baby is cute and you can cuddle it and look at it
these shitcoins are all worthless garbage just like you

buy new alts that weren't there previous bull run, like HOLO & Constellation.

the alts of 2017 will be irrelevant next bullrun

>>12134167
There's alts like NANO or QRK and then there's alts like LINK
you absolutely cannot compare them

>>12137084
see you at the moon

>>12138021

>>12137830
Link is actually a lot like QRK, if you look at the chart QRK had a real fucking singularity.... it went from $50,000 to $50,000,0000 in 3 days,

>>12137139
Ok captain hindsight.Everything looks easy looking back.Mining btc in 2009, buying amazon and google in 2002, warning princess diana not to get in her car in paris, not taking planes on sept 11th, picking the powerball numbers.Fact is the bull market could have easily ended july 2017 and crashed to nothing, and youd have been hodling worthless alts, nobody can time this shit, the fact 99% got btfo shows that, the only people that cashed out were mainly those who hit their targets in dec/jan, and most of those left a load in.This is coming from months of being in telegrams and discords.Always the same story.

>>12137830
Im gonna be so pissed if the memes all year. The shilling and the connections were all for nothing.

>>12138066
LN works. Click, pay, done. Normies don't care about your autistic alts.

When should I buy then?

>>12134167
I hold your mother.

>>12134167
>Comparing two coins using vastly different timescales.

Nice try but your dishonest shilling isn't going to fool anyone.

>>12138587

Kek, are you retarded? What's simpler for normalfags? Scanning a QR code and hitting send or laboriously setting up a lighting full node, depositing money, connecting to peers, and then being always online so your funds aren't stolen

MASSIVE corecuck cope

>>12135997

Lol your guys memes fuckin suck

>>12137743
>65 posts by this ID

jesus... For a shitcoin, Bitcoin CASH sure seems to trigger the living the shit out of you. Just let it die by itself if its such a quote on qoute shitcoin.

anyone holding alts including LINK is an absolute fucking moron

t.me/joinchat/GyMDCUZBzoi_mupV-h3HEA

fight me

>>12139591
It was all alts but BCH shills are the most annoying antisocial pieces of shit.

good old quark, one of the first scams, i bought some of that kek

>>12137743
>no tx's
>used to wash btc
which is it faggot?

>>12135169
>bitcoin is an asset 'class'

>>12140290
in fact it's a new asset class

>>12136111
you did not. don't let yourself be convinced by the shills

>>12136111
For every person that tells you you’re dumb for not buying altcoins, there’s 100 more that got absolutely rekt on altcoins. Bitcoin is the safest bet

>>12139681
That's one of the reasons cashies forked in the first place. It is the reasons bab and bsv exist. And it is the reason why it will fork again and again until every cashie has his own version of bcash.

>>12139591

Bitcoin cash keeps corecucks up at night. It's why there's a 24/7 campaign against it

>>12137298
Segwit2x wasn't their initiative so it wasn't theirs to follow through with. Core fucked up on BTC and so miners and holders who despised what they did reacted by hard forking away. They've already won, because you're on a dysfunctional shitcoin chain that cannot ever even theoretically work, and you're paying over 3k a coin for it, while they're on the chain that has actually scaled past the artificial roadblocks imposed by core in production already and is in a better fundamental place than btc ever was and they're not even paying a hundred bucks a coin. They're buying the real thing and paying almost nothing. You're buying a shitty fake and paying more than it's been worth for the vast majority of the ledger history for no appreciable reason beyond muh bubble.
You win this game by building a better mouse trap, the market will figure that out eventually or the entire ecosystem is worth nothing at all if it can't. You don't win by market manipulation and trying to force your agenda on the unwilling. That always ends like it has here.

Bitcoin core have put themselves in a bind with their retarded response to bch. They know bitcoin isn't usable now but they don't care because they expect to be able to implement some magical privacy solution at some point in the future. This could be impossible though because instead of fostering an environment where such a change would be feasible they've dug themselves in on positions of "no changes" and "no leaders". >>12136056

>>12137192
This

>>12140759
No takers? Guess that settles it.

>>12134167
agree, only Bitcoin (BSV) will survive in the end.
BTC devs even wants to make the blocks smaller.

>>12142277
ok sir, thnks for the tip sir just bought 100k rupes

>>12140570
>>12140759
Sirs buy satoshi vision. The real bch.

>>12140498
The safest bet is not to invest in any crypto right now.

>>12142471

>>12134167
>tldr buy and hold bitcoin.
/thread, kek

>>12142489
cuck, kek

>>12139591
bch wasnt even the topic but guess who shitted up my thread.

>>12143114
You did.

>>12143768
kys subhuman LOL

>>12143797
> *subhuman lols*

>>12143992
>i am reddit, the post
thanks for bumbing up my thread, keep going you untermensch LOL

>>12134872
So it's more difficult to mine now than it was at the start of the year, which means it's more expensive, which means anyone who was only marginally profitable then will no way be profitable now. The difficulty can only adjust down 20% in a single voting period of 1024 blocks. If 30% of the hashrate leaves because the price goes even lower then it will go into the next difficulty readjustment period with it taking 10% longer to get to the next 1024 blocks than before. If another coin starts pumping in the mean time then that may well attract miners. SV was only 5% less profitable to mine than abTC at it's last peak. Add too that the fees from 128mb blocks and an onchain billionaires gambling moguls casino and you can very easy send a profit signal to all the hashpower. Then you'll see hashpower dripping 40-50% and the difficulty adjustment algorithm still only to go drop by 20%. Add to that equation a halving of the block reward plus no significant value from fees.

You are right that bitcoin will be king, but the dead core chain will be a thing for the history of the internet museum. Bitcoin is based around incentives not corporate flogs barging in and trying to dictate the development ditection to suit themselves. 1mb blocks with LN can still only allow 7m onchain txs a year for all these supposed payment channels. 32mb only 210m onchain tx/yr.

>>12144450
brainlet, lmao.

I can't be bothered reading the entire thread, but you'd be dumb not to hold bitcoin for now and then when it looks like the market is starting to actually recover that's when you go into alts.

>>12135911
Literally proving your coin is shit. Miners are only on it because it hasn't become completely unprofitable to mine. They're gonna have to keep dumping everything they mine to cover costs because your second layer solution kikes the miners. If another chain comes along fat with fees thus making it more profitable to mine, then the vast majority of the hashpower is gonna follow that regardless of your mimblewimble faggotry. You've been BTFO over and over in this thread yet the shekels you get for your (you)s just keeps you coming back for more you desperate corecuck shill.

>>12136111
You did if you don't have any bch or sv as a hedge. Retards ITT don't understand how miners are incwntivised or what will happen in a chain death spiral. Have at least the same # of bsv and bch as you do BTC and you'll be alright. If you see BTC hashrate decline by more than 20% in a difficulty retargeting period then abandon ship. If the hashpower is going to SV or BCH get on that one.

>>12144481
>theymos

The faggot controlling all the corecuck echo chambers.