/biz/ - Business & Finance

Or you'll burn out and have a nervous breakdown. There are diminishing returns for the longer and harder you are pushing yourself.

>>12100398
Shitposting on twitter is work now? It's not like he's coding rocket launch routines

>>12100398
>>12100410
this.

Heard of the 80/20 rule OP? 80% of the success comes from 20% of the effort.

The remaining 20% of success require the last 80% of effort. Fcked up but look it up negroids

Also Elon Musk is a huge faggot who does not work 100 hours a week. He just is such a narcissist he considers every activity he does to be "work", including just sitting on his ass thinking and smoking pot. Wow man, your brain is so powerful that even when you have thoughts they are marvelous and productive.

Get the Fuck Out of here

tl;dr Elon I know its you, kys

Also helps inheriting family wealth and getting financially bailed out if you fuck it all up like Elon.

>>12100398
thats a lot of text to say something that simple

>>12100410
>>12100443
<The fat controller laughed> you are wrong
>>12100438
So.. if you work 100 hours vs 40hour work, you will get more 20% secnarios of productivity. If all other things are equal, (like you focus on the paretro principal in both cases)

>>12100681
>inspires non trust fund normies that they too can achieve immesurable wealth and success

Why do richfags always do this?

>>12100740
Could apply just as well to modest success of building up a toilet cleaning business: Get out, get the contacts, get the contracts, setup your Excel and invoicing, then put on your kneepads, and scrub till you can hire staff.

This man is doing great things for humanity as a whole as well as for US. This man has single handedly revolutionized two industries, and put US back on the map in the same industries. But sure why don't we catch the least dirty guy who is running muilt billion dollar company on a minor technically and crucify him. It will be great! The oil, power, automobile space industries will love it and so will the Russians, Chinese, Saudi Arabia, Venezuela, etc... First people though Elon was crazy for his ideas, next they said it will not work, than they said it will not work economically, now this. There is lots of people right now, very powerful people that feel directly threatened by Musk, they did not pay attention at first or thought it was a joke or impossible, now they are waking up and they will do whatever it takes to win. And we are helping. In 50 years if we are all driving electric cars and breathing clean air and maybe even some of our children will live on Mars. You got to ask ourselves if we really deserve it all, or did we try to fight it for our petty reasons. And the life we live is not because of us, but in spite of us.

>>12100398
i worked 70-80 hours a week for about 2 weeks, got a promotion out of it. haven't had to do that again thankfully

>>12100398
> taking advice from a guy who ingests psychedelics and shitposts on twitter

You want some real advise from someone who grew up with nothing? Take advantage of every dodgy situation that comes your way. Everything of value i have i got through questionable means

>>12100923
How do you identify those situations? Can you give an example?

>>12100398

Even if you're working for yourself, this advice is idiotic due to burnout. For a typical wagekek this advice is useless.

Also I like my advice from men who don't abandon their wives with five kids to marry movie thots

>>12100923
So, just be a n igger basically? The end is in N Uni

>>12100936
sold his innocence (butthole)

>>12100438
Completely wrong in this instance.

If you wagecucking, you earn 2.5 times more as only hours count. The harder you work, the quicker you can invest in something which earns something and get out of this hell.

>>12100398
Meanwhile Jeff Bezos (who's much richer and runs a company that isnt a giant meme) sleeps 8 hours per night and is a strong proponent of the 40 hour work week.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/jeff-bezos-reveals-the-best-time-of-day-to-have-a-high-iq-meeting-2018-09-14

Just listen to your body and do what you feel works best for you

>>12100398
Elon is a fucking hack. He got big investing in Paypals success, nothing else.
Fuck that mantra on success, it doesn't work.
t. currently working 16 hour shifts 5 days a week

>Elon Musk
>Guy who inherited emerald mines
>Parlayed them into investments in tech
>Talking about the need for 80-100 hour work weeks

Maybe, just maybe, he's talking out his ass.

that's just cultist bullshit he uses to burn out naive idealistic people. he is a fucking reptile.

>>12101166
I mean, look at all these "self made" billionaires. Most of them were already born with a silver spoon. They want you to think they worked from the bottom up, but they are all frauds.

be a good little wagie and work yourself to the bone for these meager crumbs

Basically done this working at an international large company for the past 5 months, already on good terms with most of the mid-upper management, and new job title responsible for handling a budget of a few million. Did the same at my old job, went from blue collar to leader board, reporting to the ceo, in a couple of years. (Which gave me a heads up to how badly the ship was sinking, so I got said new lower position job at different company, with better wage and terms before it imploded)

So sure, it works. In a sense that if people trust you to get the job done no matter what, you will be noticed. But that also means that they expect you to do everything thrown at you no matter what, as time usage is no longer an issue.

I’d rather be good at delegating tasks to others, and managing my own time. Just not cut out for it, so I do what I’m good at, work to finish the tasks.

>>12101607
good goyim good. exactly what we want.

>>12101696
Not disputing that, but seeing as every other company is cutting the blue collars these days, I’ll rather be a good goyim with job security, than one of them.

>>12101218
>>12101166
>>12101141
some people are simply better than you, get over it. Sure elon does not need to sleep in the factory but he does it anyway because he is an ideal to strive for. how else would he convince waggies to work 80 hours a week? they need to know that elon will sacrifice them for his vision.

>>12101990
>there are wagies here that actually believe this

>>12102014
he does not even deny it. he wants to be the guy working the hardest and he wants everyone to know he is. he will JUST himself to get there

>>12100398
This is survivorship bias and I really wish people like Elon kept their mouths shut because spouting those platitudes in the sort of prescriptive way people like him do that is absolutely pointless. Tons of people work their fucking ass off and sacrifice everything and they end up with nothing. They don't have dad's that own emerald mines. Tons of people work moderately less hard and end up as multi-millionaires. The truth is that we don't know how our reality operates and we call it luck, God, probability, whatever, but we don't know. What we do know is that it isn't fair and we do know that our brains can't deal with that so it seeks some justification for why things happen and why things are in fact fair. People don't want to acknowledge it, but some people just seem to have more "luck" than others and there's not a damn thing you can do about it. The stories like Meryl Streep saying "oh I'm too ugly for Hollywood am I?" and she goes on to be as successful as she was. She is the minority. Out of 1,000 people (or more quite frankly) 'too ugly for Hollywood,' maybe 1 ends up in her situation. Tim Ferriss does this same shit. In fact the whole motivational "performance science" field is based on the bullshit that because a lot of people who succeeded meditated for example, meditation must be some magical enhancement to your life that makes you succeed. It's all bullshit. Life is a largely random. Go to the gym every day, get cancer and die at 35. Smoke cigarettes every day, live to 90. It's all nonsense and outside of your control and yet humans think they can tip a few marbles here and there to tip the scales of the universe. Not how it works.

>>12100398
Survivor bias.

>>12102231
>>12102245
Yes, good goy! Work your 40 hours per week and enjoy your cheetos, video games, and TV. And don't forget that sometimes an extra 8-12 hours of unpaid overtime doesn't hurt, I'm sure you'll get that raise!

>>12102231

there are some that are luckier than others

I grew up poor. like living on the streets to 200sqft apartment. my mother worked her ass off at Churches Chicken to provide for us. I graduated high school and well i made something out of myself thru hard work. Some people just need to work harder and sacrifice more than others.

Now I am worth over 2.2 million and can relax and just have fun with my family. I was born in 1984 so i wasnt lucky like all the boomers.

>>12100398

When a guy like Elon Musk talks about WORK, he is not talking about the mind-numbing type of work that some wageslave at an Amazon warehouse does just to keep living from paycheck to paycheck until he decides to hang himself because of how miserable he feels doing that job.

He is talking about working relentlessly towards being the best at whatever it is that you want to become. He is talking about being passionate and caring about what you do.

I'm not saying that you should always follow your "passion" either because, most of the time, that passion is not something you can make money out of easily. The reality is that some things yield more profit than others at a given time and place.

However, whatever it is that you decide to dedicate your life to, working relentlessly at it and actually caring about your work can only increase your chances of making it.

>>12100434
>>12100438
>>12100443
>>12101141

None of you will make it.

>>12101127
That's what he does now, now that he's got it made. Take a look at how an Amazon warehouse is run and you'll get an idea of the obsessive productivity this guy lived with for 20 years before he settled into his current state of relative leisure

>>12102231
Sure luck plays a part but you also have to make your own luck

Yeah leme just wagekek for 100 hours a week instead of 40, fuck elon musk, faggot literally thinks we’re in a simulation. Oh yeah were in a simulation guys and guess what im a billionaire, you other plebs are shit outta luck!

>>12101990
Are you the slave driver wagie at the tesla factories?

>>12102373
Holy fuck bluepilled, you need to go back

>>12102543
>>12102523

>If you are not retarded like me, you must be from leddit

Sure thing, pal.

/biz/, the board of brainlets and chronic underachievers

You will always, always, always be poor

I get this isn’t exactly his point, but with the exception of hourly wage earners who literally put in 80+ verifiable hours on the clock in a single week, people who claim to work that much are always completely full of shit. I’ve literally done it a few times and it’s a pretty terrible idea that destroys your ability to function and exponentially increases the likelihood of career-ending fuckup.

>>12100398
Elon doesn't actually work that hard though. You need to pay attention to what rich people do, not what they say.

>>12100398
But I did that for two week and almost caved in someones skull.


Like, I was seriously about to do it. I had the axe handle up in the air, if Evalyne hadn't come in I woudl have caved my managers head in.....I can't work that hard. I can't get up every morning, drop off my nephew, go to work, take a 2 hour lunch, pick up my nephew, drop him off with the sitter and go back to work just to come home, sleep and wake up and do it all over again.

I didn't even get the weekend off, it was 12 hour work days 7 days a week.

It was insane...I can't do it man. IT'S NOT NATURAL.

I had to jack off in the restroom at work.

I had a limp dick when I did it too, I couldn't get it up.

I couldn't even jack off right, man. Do you get that? I COULDN'T EVEN JACK OFF.

>>12100410
The people that succeed are the people that don't burn out.

>>12102753
Not all that don't burn out make it. Some just die bitter and stressed out. Perseverance guarantees success only in so much as continuing to try mathematically predicts a fruitful outcome but that's only mathematically.

Practically there's a limited window of peak performance. And that performance diminishes over time and eventually ends when you die. There's no real practical guarantee that perseverance means you will succeed.

>>12100410
This, not only is it a dumb fake quote but the math doesn't make much logical sense

Has any successful person described their efforts in terms of an x-hour workweek? Not that I know of

>>12100398
>keep working goyim

Yeah by that logic all labours should be rich as fuck

>>12102839
Fuck I'm good at making excuses and long winded explanations to justify mediocrity. If only I could do the same for something worth a damn....Really wish I could do that.

>>12102958
I think he might be referring to working at making your company not suck, which is what he was doing in those 100 hour work weeks. In my own life I was a dishwasher. So I was damn near going insane.

Just work harder is a stupid meme. Work smarter is the /biz/ way. All in link

Holy fuck does biz get rustled whenever someone suggests doing something other than rotting in their parents basement

>>12100740
It’s an ego defense mechanism so they can convince themselves they deserve their success as opposed to having lucked into it.

>>12100398
>doing anything other than jerking off

fucking normies

>>12100883
Say hi to Grimes for me

>>12100443
not the biggest musk fun, but this is THE first excuse every wagecuck has against someone remotely successful