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While the market is crashing into oblivion, Dero has just released details on something that is going to change the crypto space forever:

https://twitter.com/DeroProject/status/1070960312839536640

Most of you on /biz/ are too busy shilling vaporware garbage, so you probably have no idea just how revolutionary this will be.

For starters, there are only four crypto projects out there today with their own Virtual Machine: Ethereum, EOS, Neo, and Tezos. Out of these four, Ethereum is the most used due to its accessibility and ease of us. However, Dero is superior to all of these for three reasons:

- Easy programming language: Unlike solidity which requires an advanced amount of programming knowledge, DMV-Basic is a language your five year old could learn. This means that a LARGE amount of people will now be able to program using Dero.
- Privacy: The other four previous mentioned do not offer the level of on-chain privacy that Dero provides.
- Security: Dero is completely immune to 51% attacks making all private smart contracts completely secure.

I know all of you are in panic mode now that the market is crashing. However, you must look back to all the times in history when everything was crashing. Every time, a new competitor rose from the ashes to create a new paradigm. Dero has the highest chance of becoming this new crypto paradigm as its private smart contracts put it in a league entirely of its own.

If you have any questions, please post them here. I will ignore copypasta replies and drive-by one-liners.

>> No.12043254

>>12043208
Here we go again... a single "captain" im supposed to trust... why are you shilling this coin if its so good? you should just be buying while its cheap no?

Pajeet, no one trusts you.

>> No.12043309

>>12043254
>provide no counter arguments whatsoever
>SCAM

Either provide some counter arguments that aren't "Dero is a scam" or you will be ignored.

>> No.12043388

the price speaks for itself, if anyone thought it was a worthwhile project it wouldn't be -10% today after yesterdays "private smart contracts" announcement
poo in loo shitcoin

>> No.12043495

>>12043388
Literally everything not named Bitcoin SV or a stable coin is down because of market conditions

>> No.12044022

Shill this on Monero sub. Oh wait you can't because those guys see through your shit. You only have the autistic biz who will buy your bags

>> No.12044217

>>12044022
>shill a competing coin on the given sub
thats like eth shillers shilling eth in bitcoin communities

also
>sub
you have to go back

>>12043388
absolutely retarded argument. less than 5000 people probably saw the announcement

>> No.12044249

>>12044217
Actually, I would lower that to less than 500. Barely anybody has even heard about this yet.

>> No.12044267

>>12044249
yes it is actually fucking crazy. i have never felt this early to something before. literally XMR + ETH. the only thing left is scalability. but the fact its about to have these two already makes it the best coin in the entire market imo

>> No.12044373

Tari will be the queen and drive Monero to Alpha Centauri

>> No.12044392

>>12043208
thanks just bought 100k

>> No.12044405

>>12043208
>goto

no thanks

>> No.12044415

>>12044267
And that's why it's being attacking so viciously right now. Literally the only thing holding this project back now is brand awareness. If even one or two "big players" catch wind of this project and start to spread it, this bear market will have little effect stopping its rise.

>> No.12044462

>>12043208
I don’t understand the pow economics with the low supply. Once the small supply is gone what incentivizes miners? I love xmr and don’t understand the hate to dero but i admit I was put off my it at first when all the shills came out around the time Nerva took off

>> No.12044470

>>12043208
How do these secret contracts work? Intel sgx?

>> No.12044512

https://medium.com/@mojo_lb/to-whom-captain-deros-lead-developer-feels-it-does-not-concern-6df0a9ca692a

lol

>> No.12044518

>>12044470
Ok they aren't secret, only dero amounts are private.
It's definitely not resistant to a 51% attack, that's just BS

>> No.12044534

>>12044512
everything in that article is provably false. also they wrote that article as blackmail to try and get Captain to pay them more money for being community mods.

>>12044470
its jut monero + smart contracts. so wheras in eth you would know who is interacting with the contract and with what amount of eth, in dero you dont because ringct etc.

>> No.12044546

How much do you get paid per post? If its less than $3 you should ask for a raise, the current rate is around $5/post and $1/comment.

>> No.12044591

>>12043208
How is the smart contract of Dero different from an ethereum one?
Why should I buy Dero?
Why should I trust an anonymous developer?

>> No.12044679

>>12044591
*chirp chirp*
I feel the silence.

>> No.12044722

>>12044591
well at a lower level Dero smart contract runs on DVM (so different VM entirely). second it use BASIC not solidity so any kid, even if you dont know how to program can write a smart contract within a day or two. but the reall innovation comes from the fact that it combined with cryptonote. so everyone interacting with a smart contract is anonymous and their address or amounts wont be revealed

>> No.12044763

>>12044722
>any kid, even if you dont know how to program can write a smart contract within a day or two
Why should someone with no experience want to write a smart contract?


Also, you ignored the other questions.

>> No.12044792

fuck this 1 anonymous dev 10% premined pajeet spam scamcoin

>> No.12044808

>>12044763
>why should i buy dero
because ETH + XMR.

>Why should I trust an anonymous developer?
dont? trust the code instead. only "trust" needed is that he doesnt dump the 10% premine. but thats the same with pretty much any project anonymous or not

>> No.12044835

>>12044808
>because ETH + XMR.
Which is a reason to by because...?

>trust the code instead.
>only "trust" needed is that he doesnt dump the 10% premine
Do you actually read what you type into your keyboard?

>> No.12044900

>>12044808
>>Why should I trust an anonymous developer?
>dont? trust the code instead. only "trust" needed is that he doesnt dump the 10% premine. but thats the same with pretty much any project anonymous or not

The absolute state of Dero Bagholders.

>> No.12044910

>>12044808
Wrong.
Good projects don't have high premine.

>> No.12044918

is this the new iota/sky type scam?

>> No.12045040

>>12044910
eth had a 70% premine..

>>12044835
your obviously false flagging kys.

>> No.12045065

>>12045040
>eth had a 70% premine..
And no one said it is a good project.

>your obviously false flagging kys.
I ask simple questions.
If you are triggered so easily, I would advise you to stay inside your feelgood-bubble on facebook, faggot.

>> No.12045081

>>12044918
>sky
>no consensus protocol for 4 years
>literally all run on a central server

>iota
>just have free fees guys! spam protected by client side PoW! DB is 10 trillion TB? Who cares!

no this is not like iota or sky in any way. the only fud against this coin is "muh 10% premine". "muh code has a research license on it"

>> No.12045101

>>12045065
>ask for info about project
>get legitimate answer
>"hur durr do you even read what you type??"

yeh fuck off.

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>>12045101
>get legitimate answer
I ask for reasons to buy dero.
Your answer: "because it is a mixture of monero and ethereum"

I point out, that I have to trust an unknown dev.
Your answer: "You only need him to trust him to not dump the whole project and his premine while you hold the coin, otherwise there is not any trust involved."


Are you actually retarded?

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>>12043208
shoo shoo pajeet
back to the designated shitting street

>> No.12045201

>>12045165
>"You only need him to trust him to not dump the whole project and his premine while you hold the coin, otherwise there is not any trust involved."
please tell me how that isnt different from any other project. even in bitcoin satoshi owns like 5% of all coins. 1% of early adopters in bitcoin also own 95% of the entire supply. your just a brainlet.

also you said eth is not a good project. so you shouldnt buy dero imo. if you dont see value in smart contracts then you wont see value in dero.

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>>12045201
>please tell me how that isnt different from any other project
Because the dev is unknown and if he exit scams, no one is even able to place a hit on him.

>even in bitcoin satoshi owns like 5% of all coins.
Which he never even moved away from the wallet.
He also never organized a hyped and worthless conference to shill his own project to the clueless mass.

>1% of early adopters in bitcoin also own 95% of the entire supply.
Which is why I dont own BTC.

>also you said eth is not a good project. so you shouldnt buy dero imo. if you dont see value in smart contracts then you wont see value in dero.
I see ETH as a speculative asset, which I buy and sell based on how much hype it can attract.
If the only thing Dero is able to achieve is "anonymous smart contracts in basic", I see little hype with it, as long as the average NPC is not even able to write a formula in fecking MS Excel without consulting several tutorials.

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>>12043208
>most innovative project according to dero shills
>simple rewrite of CN protocool from C++ to Golang that the derofags call "created from scratch"
>contracts written in something based on GW-BASIC and VB
>uses GOTO (rlmfao)
>most innovative

So, acording to you derofags that's the best and most innovative project in crypto ever, right? Don't you guys have shame on this? You should. People at /g/ would laugh at you.

At least thanks for the GOTO part. I've lost my sides.

>> No.12045585

>>12045165
>I ask for reasons to buy dero.
Then don't buy? Smart people will see the value.

>> No.12045645

>>12045585
Smart people ask questions.
Smart people answer questions.

>> No.12045933

>>12045373
> muh learn javascript at bootcam.
> muh learn python in first year CS
> muh teacher say never use GOTO
GOTO it's use in the most powerful language : C, C++, ASSEMBLY and more.

> What is WHILE and FOR
GOTO it's used internaly you fucking brainlet.

> Took 2 week to learn functional Python
Everyone Happy

> Took 2 day to learn BASIC and write first games
Everyone complaining

>> No.12046032

>>12044518
>It's definitely not resistant to a 51% attack, that's just BS

Wrong. Multiple cryptographers have looked through the code. The DAG structure combined with other tweaks is what prevents a 51% attack. Please note that "51% attack" is very strict, meaning "51%". Obviously, a 99% attack would be a problem (as it would with every other network), but in strict terms, a 51% attack is physically impossible.

>>12045933

Just ignore him. Anyone who whines about GOTO is obviously retarded and has no idea what they're talking about.

>> No.12046094

>>12045373
please tell me another $5 mill cap coin that has achieved anywhere near as much. in fact tell me a $50 mill coin. no ill do you one better. even at $300 mill cap the only coins that come close to competing with the same level of novel tech are zcash and tezos. but those have much bigger problem like shit governance, infighting, block reward tax.

>> No.12046364

>>12046094
Yeah, the only thing holding it back now is brand awareness. People who think that this thing will stay at a $5M marketcap or lower when private smart contracts get released have lost their minds. The smart contracts alone will cause demand simply because people will want to try building dApps on this new platform. Once word hits the higher tier exchanges like Binance, Bittrex, etc., they'll want this coin on their platform.

>> No.12046390

>>12045933
>>12046032
>>12046364
The absolute state of bagholders.

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>>12044217
>>12044249
>>12044267
>muh hidden gem
>shilled on /biz/ for a year

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>>12046390
>provide no counter
>"the absolute state of bagholders"

>>12046517
>never said it was a hidden gem
>"muh hidden gem"
>laughing_leopard.jpg

>> No.12046640

>>12043208
>Dero is completely immune to 51% attacks making all private smart contracts completely secure.
Then it's centralized. Pass.

>> No.12046644

>>12046517
> post about a hidden gem since feb
> announce the breakthrough is real
> /biz/ still don't believe it they gonna wait for the announcement from PewDipie / McAfee
Don't forget to fomo at $50 on Binance like for Antshare, Anons.

>> No.12046667

And it is always the same guy shilling this project, while people laugh at his deplorable attempts to shill his bag.

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>>12046640
>>12046667

>> No.12046889

>>12046667
its always the same person fudding in them.. well i should say same 3 or 4 people - most from turtlecoin. there are probably 5 or 6 people who shill dero on here

>> No.12046907

>>12043208
>t. dumbfuck dero dev who is so pathetic that he shills his utter shitcoin on 4channel.
KYS already faggot

>> No.12046946

>>12046765
>brainlet response to any subject you don't want to engage
So fucking predictable. Please explain the mechanism that accounts for a crypto like Dero being safe from a 51% attack in a way that keeps it decentralized that doesn't just boil down to "It's a BlockDAG, I don't gotta explain shit." What is the actual mechanism at work?

Note that the term "51% attack" is kind of bullshit to begin with. You either have consensus or you don't.

>> No.12046974

>>12046946
jut read this. typing out a tl;dr is hard since you could be a retard that wont understand anything or very smart and whatever is explained will not be good enough. the protocol is based on this

https://eprint.iacr.org/2018/104.pdf

>> No.12047037

>>12046974
He's not going to read 17 pages of a highly technical explanation. He wants a simple one-sentence answer so he can respond, "ur a faget" and continue to spew his vitriol

>> No.12047046

Deros code license prevents forking, which means absolute trust in the single dev is needed, because there is nothing you can do if he pushes an update that you or the whole community disagrees with.

>> No.12047053

>>12047046
nobody has to upgrade their client to the new update..

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>>12047037

> hmmm...

>> No.12047059

>>12047046
Wrong. You can fork if you aren't planning on stealing the technology to make a profit for yourself.

>> No.12047071
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>>12047056
>provide a single out-of-context screencap of a post on Reddit
>don't provide commentary, don't say what it's even about
>HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

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>>12047071

> hmmm...

>> No.12047148

>>12047037
Explanation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk38AAV_whw

TL;DW: The Satoshi rule of the longest chain has been replaced. So you can't secretly mine you own chain and insert it since they are no more orphan blocks.

>> No.12047184

>>12047148
Nobody wants to watch a 28 minute video. That's why it only has 159 views. They just want to keep saying "getting rid of 51% attacks is impossible" over and over again like parrots.

>> No.12047207

>>12047053
He also has full rights over binaries, can legally prevent them from being shared, which means exchanges cant legally obtain and run them.
>>12047059
The license specifically forbids any commercial use. You can only use it for research purposes. Creating a fork is clearly a commercial use.

>> No.12047306

>>12047207
You do realize that only being able to fork for research purposes =/= closed source, right?

Please don't make me post another brainlet wojak.

>> No.12047369

>>12047306
Please read >>12047046
Nowhere did I say anything about closed source. It is completely centralized and 100% trust is needed, the complete opposite of what cryptocurrencies are supposed to be.

>> No.12047530

>>12047369
>implying any mainstream crypto out there today is "decentralized"

If this market should have taught you anything, it's that whales control everything.

>> No.12047543

>>12047369
>100% trust is needed

Not to mention, that he can simply dump all his coins, crash the market to zero and would feel literally zero negative impact, because he is unknown.

>> No.12047553

>>12047530
>whales control everything.

So because "whales control everything", it is cool for one guy to completely control not only the tech but the market as well?

>> No.12047595

>>12047530
so you have accepted that dero is completely centralized and requires absolute trust? Because you are deflecting now and provide no counterarguments, just what you accused all the other guys of earlier.

>> No.12047751

>>12047595
Great, now he will disappear and repost his bullshit again in a couple of hours.

We might as well paste together all the stuff that is shit about this project and respond to this thread every time it pops up.

>> No.12047781

>>12047751
I got him to abandon another thread with the exact same argument, looks like their discord cant come up with a good answer to it yet, maybe next time.

>> No.12047836

>>12047207
Good shitforks have been a travesty for the market thus far. DERO was smart to legally ban them. Bcash, BSV, BcashABC, the hundred plus other BTC shitforks have all been a mega distraction and inside threat to BTC. Fuck you shitfork advocates.

>> No.12047881

>>12047595
>muh centralization meme
The devs are anonymous you dolt and clearly not attempting to assert corporate management over DERO. You dumb fucks can't get it through your thick skulls how important this coin is. Keep FUDDING tho, so you'll have enough self-regret when this coin BTFOs your skepticism again to continue coping with your shitty life.

>> No.12047915

>>12047881
Explain to me:
What differentiates a centralized coin with a single developer from a database, where I control your "ownership" over a single row.

>> No.12047923

>>12047881
This coin could go to $100, and they'll still be spaming their vitriol. I'm stating to think they're competing with one another for the memecap collage that'll be posted in the future of retards hating a future successful project, similar to ETH and Antshares.

>> No.12047927

>>12047915
Addendum: ofc you can trust me to not completely dump the value of your row by dumping my own rows onto a market after shilling the value of rows in my database.

>> No.12047975

>>12047836
>>12047881
I get it, you have accepted centralization and trust, which clearly shows that you do not understand where cryptos value comes from, and what sets it apart from fiat.

>> No.12047978

>>12047881
>"not attempting to assert corporate management over DERO"
>anon dev has a proprietary licence over it and a premine, and intends to incorporate
>absolutely everything in the project depends on him, since he takes all the decisions unilaterally alone and doesn't allow any disagreements

>> No.12048023

>>12047978
>waaah we can't fork his chain and make money therefore it is against the very principle of crypto!

The smart contracts are coming, and no amount of whining is going to stop them.

>> No.12048033

>>12048023
>The smart contracts are coming, and no amount of whining is going to stop them.

So... where are all those kids wanting to write anonymous smart contracts in basic?

>> No.12048045

>>12047923
Of course it can go to $100. There are many other scams that succeeded in this mean and are now in top 100. Two nice examples: Ripple and Electroneum. But they will never cease to be complete scams.

>> No.12048074

>>12048023
Nobody can fork it and start a new chain more decentralized, with a better emission curve and with no premine controlled by a single unknown dev.

>> No.12048076

>>12048045
By your logic, every single crypto out there right now is a scam. If that's your take, why the hell are you even here on /biz/? Why spend time hating on this "scam" when there are hundreds of other "scams" going on? Do you just sit on /biz/ for hours and FUD every thread you see?

>> No.12048083

>>12048033
my god... has anyone got that post back from March that goes

>Dero will never release rewrite in golang
--YOU ARE HERE --
>Dero will never release blockDAG
>Dero will never be able to improve bulletproofs by 10x
>Dero will never open source
>Dero will never release smart contracts
>No one will ever use dero smart contracts
>Dero will never get on larger exchanges
>dero will never overtake monero

because so far we are about two thirds of the way down the list.
>no one will ever use dero smart contracts

>> No.12048089

>>12048074
Aka: Nobody can steal the technology, give themselves their own premine, then coast off another guy's work by making small improvements and promising bigger improvements that will never be delivered

Sound about right?

>> No.12048092

>>12048083
Pretty much this. They're scared.

>> No.12048127

>>12043208
all projects who claim to be the next ETH, or monero, or combination of both, are just scams. They claim "we will be better in x months" and 2 years later they have nothing. This is like the 100th project that does exactly the same. If you still fall for it at this point you're a pure retard.

>> No.12048142

>>12048076
>By your logic, every single crypto out there right now is a scam
Are you retarded?
I said: "There are many other scams that succeeded in this mean and are now in top 100"

Where did I said that ALL the other crypto projects are scams?
Learn to read and interpret properly, fucking illeterate faggot.

>> No.12048173

>>12048089
Crypto idea is to be decentralized with no "owners". If captain wants to maintain a license and complete control over it, go ahead. Nobody will ever take him seriously.
Also, apparently captain wants to always remain in control of his entire 10% "retirement" premine, not a single coin less.

>> No.12048192

>>12048083
Where's the entry that says
>gpu miners are cancerous pageets and their coins always fail
Cos we're still at that one

>> No.12048195

>>12048127
>claims to be the next ETH
>no improvement after months despite anouncement
>claiming to be the next big scam is a scam
yeah.

>> No.12048206

>>12048089
In the original comment >>12047046 it is clearly stated that this is about trust and centralization, not about shitforks. You still provided no counterargument. The single dev can do whatever he wants, and you can't do anything about it when he does.
Ironically, what you just said is exactly what the dero dev did with Monero/CryptoNote, and he was able to do so because the devs of those actually understand why cryptocurrencies are so powerful, and that decentralization and trustlessness is essential.

>>12048092
The "scared" argument doesn't make any sense btw. You would only be scared if you recognized that dero is superior. If you recognized that, the logical thing to do would be to sell all your other coins and buy dero, and then convince others to (with good arguments that you would have in that case, unlike you, because dero is just bad). It would be completely illogical and retarded to recognize that it is superior, and decide to FUD instead of buying.

>> No.12048208

>>12048092
>MUH SCARED
rlmfao
Always the same argument.

>> No.12048210

>>12048083
Still not answering questions.
I will go to bed now.

>> No.12048253

>>12048206
>The "scared" argument doesn't make any sense btw. You would only be scared if you recognized that dero is superior. If you recognized that, the logical thing to do would be to sell all your other coins and buy dero, and then convince others to (with good arguments that you would have in that case, unlike you, because dero is just bad). It would be completely illogical and retarded to recognize that it is superior, and decide to FUD instead of buying.

>what is crypto tribalism
your retarded

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>>12048127
>the 1st project in literally thousands to have a BlockDAG
>the 1st project in literally thousands to have full SSL/TLS encryption on the P2P layer
>the 1st project in literally thousands to incorporate bulletproofs (no, Monero was NOT first faggot)
>the 1st project in literally thousands to have a web-based wallet that doesn't require a server to function
>the 5th project in literally thousands to have a custom virtual machine
>the 1st project in literally thousands to have private smart contacts
>the 1st project in literally thousands to have a cloud-based file hosting service where files are physically impossible to delete unless you delete the Internet itself

>This is like the 100th project that does exactly the same.

>> No.12048780

>>12048074
Wanna bet? Hold my beer motherfucker

>> No.12048792

Whats a WASM?

>> No.12048814

Fuck the research license. What can he really do? Have my forked code taken down from github? I can host it somewhere else.
Sue me? Well he will have to reveal himself to sue me.

We forkin boys!

>> No.12048819

>>12048780
>>12048814
lmao, good luck getting it listed.

>> No.12048899

>>12048127
>if people say something's gonna be better than a flaw altcoin, it's a scam.
>If you still fall for it at this point you're a pure retard.
Alright faggot, how about when I bought 1500 Dero at 4600 sats in September and 6xed my investment? Did that make me a pure retard? How's your portfolio doing this quarter?

>> No.12048930

>>12048899
Do you guys not understand that you sound fucking retarded saying that?
Let me explain
>haha my bags are 6x now, pls buy, sir, pls, sir
Do you niggers not realise this at all?

>> No.12048946

>>12043208
>Most of you on /biz/ are too busy shilling vaporware garbage
>proceeds to shill vaporware garbage

kek

>> No.12048957

>>12048930
>buy Dero at 20 cents
>goes to $4, sell
>buy back in when Dero is at 30 cents
>goes to $2, sell
>waiting to buy back in once market bottoms out

>B-B-BUY MY BAGS SIR!

You're the one who is retarded.

>> No.12049019

>>12048957
So you recognize that's just a P&D?

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>>12049019
>price fluctuations due to market conditions
>P&D

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12049082

>>12048253
>your retarded

>> No.12049152

>>12047975
>>12048206
This has been my issue with Dero. They've never really respected trustlessness and true open source ideas. From what I've heard it's always been about one guy running the show. I understand that anonymity is important, but at least some transparency in the work earlier on would have been appreciated. I understand it was super secret new technology, but if that's the case, why not wait until it's finished before firing up the network? I also don't like that it's ASIC mined when there's really no reason for it to be if it can't be 51% attacked. What's the rationale with that?

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12049196

>>12043208

>anoynmouse dev.
>closed sourced.
>private.
>just trust us.
>it's only a little premined.
>no, you're not allowed to know anything.

/biz/ put your money into this shit now. You'll lose it instantly, rather than wait another 2 months for the GOX coins to be released.

>> No.12049239

>>12047975

> muh one dev / team dev its centralization
When it was Satoshi no one give a fuck even in premine.

Put a bullet in head of each Monero devs or put them in jail and you kill the coin too.

Their is a reason why b one know real identity of Satoshi.

>> No.12049264

What's with the GOTO FUD? Is that the new copy pasta from brainlets to troll Dero and appear as if they are intelligent so gullible folks fall for it and dump their coins?

>> No.12049266

>>12049196
>already made 10x my original investment, took profit, anything else is free money from here on out
>you'll lose it instantly

>> No.12049315

>>12049239
Staoshi has vanished and Bitcoin became what it is now because Satoshi was always very clear with his intentions and pro decentralization. He always cared for the community and listened to the opinions of others, and many contributed for the project. Captain autism is the complete opposite of him.

>> No.12049383

>>12049315

DERO means "I'am back".

>> No.12049565

>>12049239
>>12049264
>>12049266
>>12049315
>>12049383
>Bagholders Anonymous

>> No.12049608

>>12049383

kill yourself

>> No.12049820

>>12048819
Well, with an AGPL3 license, zero premine, open development and smart contracts, I doubt there will be much of an issue with users and exchanges.

>> No.12050069

>>12049266
>I-i didn't loose money, I'm just shilling because I'm not desperate
The absolute state

>> No.12050570

>>12049820
Even BTC is considered like premined...

Anyway licence could still evolve in the future.

>> No.12050611

>>12050570
>comparing actual projects premine with BTC one

Let's see:
Satoshi "premined" it for a month before creating the P2Pfoundation thread.
Initial reward: 50 per block.

50 times 6 = 300 BTC/hour
300 times 24 = 7,200 BTC/day
7200 times 30 = 216,000 BTC
216,000/21,000,000 = ~1% of BTC total supply.

BTC "premine" (that Satoshi will obviously never use): ~1%
DERO premine: 10%.

>> No.12050632

>>12050611
And ETH had a 70% premine, what's your point?

>> No.12050689

>>12050632
Most of it was sold in their ICO. Also, ETH is shit (in my opinion).

>> No.12050721

>>12050689
what difference does it make if its sold in the ico or held by the dev. the devs are still selling either way. also eth has a 17% premine which was NOT sold in the ico.

>>12050611
iirc satoshi has ~1 mill coins which is 5% not 1%.

>> No.12050730

>>12043208
Does DERO have an oracle solution for its smart contracts?

>> No.12050737

>>12050730
does eth have a solution? no. but third party devs like chainlink do. and third party devs can do the same on dero.

>> No.12050807

>>12050721
In that part I must agree. As I said, ETH, in my opinion, is crap.

>> No.12050840

>>12050807
ok you may think its crap but the rest of the market still values it at $8 fucking billion. and at one point was worth over 15x that. it also pulled a 15,000x since its lowest point once it was at ATH.

what im saying is, premine doesnt matter when it comes to gains.

>> No.12050845

>>12048899
nice larp.

>> No.12051408

>>12048033
Its not just the supply of people creating smartcontracts because of Basic. but also auditing becomes infinitely easier. No more 6 different audits of and then getting hacked cause solidity is so damn hard.

Its Basic code. easier to create smartcontracts and audit. this idea is genius.

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12051449

Dero is so well thought out.

>> No.12051470

I love these Dero threads.

You got Dero shills (who actually make a good case as to why Dero is a big deal) vs Dero FUDers who are probably trying to accumulate or Monero shills.

Dero is legit. End of story. I bought a big bag back when it first listed on StocksExchange (now known as Stex).

>> No.12051473

>>12051470
How much to make it?

>> No.12051489

>>12051473
Depends how long you want to wait (bc of King Shitcoin dying a death rn)

1000 should do it in a few years when one Dero is worth $200

5k-10k for the quick money bc Dero should hit 30-50$ faster

>> No.12051505

>>12051489
thanks fren, I'll be sure to at least up my stack to 1k and aim for like 5-6k in the long run.

>> No.12051512

>>12051505
npnp, some of us actually try to look out for bizbros

i like when underdogs succeed

>> No.12051546
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12051546

Check out FLO/BTC

The way it works right now - if you own stock "A", the stock sits in your brokerage account.
Now if another person wants to short stock "A" your brokerage will lend the stock to them at 5-8% a year in interest payments.
Your brokerage makes 5-8% per year by lending out YOUR stock. You do not receive any money for this.

Tzero has implemented something called DLR on the FLO blockchain.
What these DLR do is allow YOU to control who you lend your stock to and at what rate. OR you can give permission to a brokerage to allow them to lend it out to others while splitting the profits.
This is HUGE. For the first time ever, stock owners will actually be able to earn 5-8% passive income by lending out their stock to shortsellers. This is disrupting billions of dollars in profit that banks and brokerages make every year.
All of this is on the FLO blockchain!
Patrick Byrne (CEO of Overstock/Tzero) has said that pension funds are lining up to sign up for FLO DLR usage.

A quick google search shows that pension funds worldwide have over $40trillion usd. What better way to get passive and risk free profit than to lend out your stocks. These DLR on FLO blockchain are a perfect way for pension funds to increase their returns.

Patrick stated that the funds are in the process of being onboarded and will be finalized and ready to go by March of 2019.

FLO is valued at under $3million marketcap.
This thing will soar like EMERALD COBRA beyond $100million possibly reaching near $500 million.

You are absolutely delusional if you ignore the advices you just read.

https://medium.com/@valueprop/florincoin-the-tzero-connection-66697c81c873

>> No.12051556

>>12051546
all the fudders in the thread. pay attention. this^ is what an actual pajeet looks like.

>> No.12051557

>>12043208
You are right OP. Many pajeet here will be very sad when their scam coins do not rise.

Oh,by the way,if you think that the next bull run will pump your alt coins like ARK,LINK,TRON that are sitting in the hundreds of millions market cap,prepare to be FUBAR'd

There are ton of blockchains with high potential that sitting under 10M in market cap.Those will be the ones who replace most of the SHIT you see in the top 200

FLO will RISE like EMERALD COBRA
10-20x.

Just like Factom, Raven. Just like DERO.

You must search for the tiny projects and ignore the mass media spam of insiders trying to dump $500million in bags.

>> No.12051574

>>12051557
kys fag. Factom Raven flo and those other shitcoins are shit projects. literally just copy+paste forks.

>> No.12051587

>>12051574
HOnestly I cannot wait.

I #marslander22 #cryptorobinhood will return to these boards as a mother fucking LEGEND in the new few months.

#inside infos (confirmed)

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>>12051489
>bc of King Shitcoin dying a death rn
English, please.

>> No.12051684

>>12044022
I've been here long enough to remember when Monero was called "Memero". All those Monero fags got in at $25 at best. Buying Dero today is like buying Monero at $1.60, which I did.

>> No.12051688

>>12051587
Only thing you'll return to is street shitting, Rajeesh

>> No.12051925

>>12050845
Not a larp. I would provide screenshots from TO but I'm too lazy. You can go on believing it's larp if that's what makes you feel better, though.
>>12048930
Let me explain to you, you dull minded piece of shit. I bought Dero at the low because I understood what it is, I did sell some at 33k sats only to rebuy around 25k and have continued to accumulate more at those levels and will do so because it's hardly going to drop more. Dero pump finished a couple weeks ago. Now we're accumulating in wait for the market to react to DVM release, it's going to be a choppy upward movement in 2019. You, however, are too narrow-minded and self-absorbed to consider that your dogged skepticism of this project is MAYBE misplaced, and people like me who have identified its potential from the beginning are RIGHT. Your bitterness will taste so sweet to us when Dero breaks into top 100 coins, then top 50, then top 20.