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Great way to store wealth
Luxury combustion engine vehicles is the real buy right now though

>>11977570
why do I keep getting ads for this and also Im assuming this thread is a false flag type advertisement as well

>>11977570
Human emotions are eternal through art and only art; we will die but the paintings, songs, and poems we leave behind will speak for us for generations.
I'm sorry you don't get it OP, nothing is more sublime to me than art, it gives me reason to live, reason to try and "make it." Just to buy a Klimt to stare at and feel.

>>11977580
Art is literally in a fucking bubble. Bitcoin is extremely undervalued

>bragging to your billionaire friends
>it looks cool
>it goes up in value more than a house does

>>11977597
faggot. GET OUT

>>11977570
fine art is a money laundering scam

>>11977570
>brainlet...the post.

>>11977570
You are contributing to the decline of Western Civilization you absolute degenerate.

>>11977597
and here's your answer OP: it's insecurity
art lovers lack the capacity to think for themselves, so they can't appreciate the world without a group of peers to define what's important for them

>>11977580
this guy gets it.

some old lambos will take you to lamboland.

>>11977675
fucking lol imagine being this deluded

>>11977668
too late nigger

>>11977675
THIS

BASED AND REDPILLED

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JANNIES ARCH THIS ONE

Its the last market you can pump and dump with no regulation. It's so common for people with money to anonymously bid high and buy out like 90% of an unknown new-age artist's work just to make it look like there is artificial demand then sell.

A good painter might create 80 or 90 paintings or note if they have an incredible career. Imagine how wide you could get the bid/ask spread to if a stock only has 90 outstanding shares and you own 60 of them.

>>11977692
How can i bomb these people in minecraft?

>>11977718
I LOVE JEWS AND I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT ANON SAID. NO NEED TO INVESTIGATE

>>11977692
So your argument is...that the most powerful corporations that have basically strengthened the US's dominance have jews to thank?
I guess if Ceasar just had some jews he could've avoided the trouble of having to invade Britain.
Also isn't that just like a Nazi
>Sees jews doing something successful
>Wants to take it from them
You're the tyrones of history, you realize that? Just a bunch of thieving niggers
You can't even into art dude... why do you deserve to be in power more than the jews anyways?
What good would that do the world?

>>11977779
shut up you retarded kike

>>11977800
The absolute state of these brainlets...

>>11977815

(You) - OH SO CLOSE
Does this guy really think I'm jewish?

You must be the lowest level stormtrooper I've ever seen. They kill off the mentally disabled eventually too, you know

>>11977779
>US Dominance
>Dollar is worth 95% less than what it was 100 years ago

Evil fucking kike. You honestly deserve to rot in hell with your (((paintings)))

(You)
Inflation. Population growth. Modernization. The technological advancement of other civilizations.
Humanity advances as a whole because the most powerful nation on Earth isn't ENTIRELY enforcing its will upon other nations. That allows us to brain drain from other nations without necessarily having to administrate them.
But you wouldn't understand that. You're a nationalist cuck.
I want technological advancement, not "muh fuhrer" you fucking brainlets.

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>>11977922

>>11977668
enjoy your (((art))), faggot

>>11977570
So what, you decorate with Marvel posters?

What a fuckin loser

>>11977974
white walls and pictures of my family / achievements, you shallow herd following shitskin

>>11978008
So you have a bunch of barren white walls?

>>11978017

>>11977779
happy hanukkah

>>11978008
> empty walls
> family/achievement lumped into one group

Both of these claims check out

Purchasing art is an act of self expression. Just buying random art is stupid. You have to find what you like and invest there.

>>11977570
Art and antiques are a perfect way to launder money. You could have like a 50k chair sitting in the corner of your apartment and the feds would have no fucking clue what they're looking at lol

Hitler hated Jews for pushing (((degenerate art))) while Jews bought up real art on discount after the Jews made it to out of style.

>>11978115
i dont think you know what money laundering means

>>11978094
Blonde haired, blue eyed atheist here. But thanks anon. Happy hanlalanaukalanukah to you. Literally whatever makes you happy and keeps you the fuck out of my house.
How many poltards are actual aryans rather than just slavs with aryan-envy?

>>11978131
If what you were saying was true, adolf hitler would've been able to at least earn a living as an artist. Hitler's problem was that he couldn't sell his artwork at all, not that people weren't paying enough for it. That's when he went back to the army to ask for work and they assigned him to spy on the worker's party.
But you know...you can keep believing in your bullshit too, I guess...

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>>11978164
Think of the object-de-art as a poker chip. It has a store of value that can be bought in one place and cash in at another. It can also be transported to a free trade zone and exchanged for a warehouse receipt and the warehouse receipt evidencing ownership can be exchanged. Or it can be a fake work of art owned by you through a shell structure sold at auction to someone who owes you money or yourself through another shell structures as a way to move the money. The sale of object-de-art is the cover for the movement of money.

>>11977922
zuckerstein the only people who honestly innovate technology are white people. Then jews come along and buy it up with stolen or counterfeit money and advertise with niggers and faggots. If you want good tech go back to israel and wait for your delivery from the white guys who design it and maybe some good chinese who will mass manufacture it for you

>>11977710
only good post in this thread

>>11978205
You're probably using a non-CRT monitor right now. You have a jew's theories of special relativity to thank for that.

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>>11977580

>>11978201
that's not money laundering. if your definition of laundering is just being a store of value that can be bought and sold then all crypto, yachts, tritium, watches, and antiques are all money laundering

>>11977692
can you NOT post this shit? like seriously, I don't need everyone hating on my people by your racist little poltard fanclub.

>>11978242
einstein got relativity theory from Henri Poincare

>>11978285
Fuck off kike. You don’t get your way ITT

>>11978272
huh? if you're using these items to wash dirty money it absolutely is money laundering. again, art and antiques are perfect for this procedure.

>>11978008
>>11978017
>>11978097
Absolutely rekt
Back to pol

>>11978315
money laundering is the act of claiming your illegally gained money through a legitimate asset.

>>11978315
you're not washing your money if you buy a piece of art. let's say you're selling drugs and one of your customers is an undercover. you get raided and the feds find a brick and a rare piece of art in your home. the investigators will not just look at the art, shrug and say "welp, can't do anything about this. it's art so we hit a dead end." more realistically, it would go like this:
>How did you buy that artwork? Your bank account never had a balance over $1 million
>I bought it with cash
>And how did you get the cash?
>...
>I uh
>I found it in a brown paper bag on the sidewalk

if you have the cash instead of the artwork, and are trying to pretend the cash in your home was from the sale of the art, it would go exactly the same:

>this money is from selling art, not from selling drugs
>How did you buy that artwork? Your bank account never had a balance over $1 million
>I bought it with cash
>And how did you get the cash?
>I uh....

>>11977597
I feel so bad for people who think like this. Imagine believing that the purpose of life is to pass on "our feelings" through the arts. What a bunch of gayness. This is what happens when we eliminate most threats to our day-day safety.

>>11978405
Dumbass...even the fucking cavemen did it.
What the fuck is wrong with your head?

>>11978371
>>11978382
Art and many of items of high value are a launderers dream. You can conceal a shedload of cash in buying an artwork and transport it across borders. Of course, art dealers and auction houses are dealer in high value items and as such are subject to money laundering regulation. However, an old dusty painting, which as not been stolen or forged, does not need much in the way of background. It gets sold and then the seller needs to account for any capital gain.

Moreover bizlets, my brother has a law postgraduate with speciality in anti-money-laundering and terrorist finance. I'm not just randomly spewing shit like most jeets here

>>11978444
again, you have not demonstrated why art in this instance is any different than crypto, rare minerals like tritium or very expensive watches or yachts, or any very expensive commodity for that matter.

you haven't dealt with my hypothetical example, you have not concealed anything by just buying art with your dirty cash. your whole post is hot air, i can't find any substantive point. the closest thing you said is that a painting "does not need much in the way of background," which doesn't mean anything. then you simply appeal to authority.

>>11978405
You have emotionally neutered yourself, and you think it's somehow advantageous to have done so.
Wallace Stevens would like a word with you now

>>11978188
Hitler was a street artist (and a moderately successful one at that) before WW1. He did not do this after the war.

>>11978382
>How did you buy that artwork? Your bank account never had a balance over $1 million

Been in the family for ages. Burden of proof is on the government to prove otherwise. Done.

>>11978480
wtf. if you are under criminal investigation the burden of proof is on you to prove it's been in your family's possession. if you are selling drugs and bought it recently you will had submitted your information to the auction house and they will have the sale in their records

>>11978462
Are you suffering from Dunning-Kruger syndrome?
>you have not demonstrated why art in this instance is any different than crypto, rare minerals like tritium or very expensive watches or yachts, or any very expensive commodity for that matter.
Its a common and old method of washing money. How can't you understand this?

>you haven't dealt with my hypothetical example, you have not concealed anything by just buying art with your dirty cash. your whole post is hot air, i can't find any substantive point. the closest thing you said is that a painting "does not need much in the way of background," which doesn't mean anything. then you simply appeal to authority.
this is not a philosophy class. gtfo you absolute faggot

>>11978469
I emotionally neutered myself long ago, any coming back from it now? Wouldn't I just swing in the other extreme of too emotional if I tried?

>>11978301
I pity people like you, seriously.

>>11978523
Again, Wallace Stevens is your guy.
The true Ubermensch appreciates, makes, and cultivates art

>>11978521
now you just resort to "it's a common and old method of washing money," offering no substantive example at all. still avoiding my point of how your definition is over-general.

>this is not philosophy class
my example was not philosophy. it's how an investigation would be conducted

>>11978285
anti racism posts are the new shitposts kek
or 4channel inspired retards to come and nest where they don't nelong

>>11978545
will research, thanks.

>>11977692
Make sure to include sources next time.

>>11978433
What's your point?

>>11978469
Not at all. I wonder how you got that out of what I wrote since it was quite obviously full of emotion. Perhaps you're a rittard.

>>11978571
Also,
> or their spouses are Jewish
Reach harder and longer holy fuck

>tfw unable to understand the value of art

>>11977570
You should understand that ART is the only thing that holds infinite and everlasting value since it is purely based on our perceptions, emotions and feelings.

>Leonardo da Vinci’s "Christ" SOLD $450 MILLION the‘Salvator Mundi’ at Christie's Auction

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lN-n0_Sf5cE

>Leonardo da Vinci's 'Salvator Mundi' | 2017 World Auction Record Christie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3orkmMlSpmI

>Finding the $450 Million Salvator Mundi: A Love Story

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJb14H3Mz_o

>What Made The Da Vinci Painting Worth $450 Million (HBO)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQF6QFEY4Ps

>>11978742
Based, resplendent, redpilled

>>11977570
>doesn't understand art
>calls others uncultured

Please refrain from posting your unrelated shit threads on here OP and go back to consuming high fat and salt food, Netflix, alcohol and video games like the rest of the NPC do. You're a leech on culture and will never do anything close to meaningful in you entire pointless life you dog brained afterthought of a person.

>>11977570

Art is a just a 'hobby' for rich people who ran out of ideas to spend their money on

Actual historical fine art is cool but if you live in a major cultural center like NYC and can afford to travel to other centers, there's no point in owning it yourself except to flex on other richfags. Modern art is CIA garbage and tax fraud.

Modern fine art is typically digital and available online, and you can commission it or download it for a pittance. Just display it on a 4k monitor mounted on your wall and pretend it's a physical piece, it doesn't matter.

Most of what I commission these days is marble sculptures, and even then mostly just to keep the tradition alive.

>>11979663
It's more of an investment for them.