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Based GE

FUCK AMD!

>>11951626
The time has come.

Hemp being legalized in the next US farm bill. Buy! Buy! Buy!

GE MUST GO DOWN

smug bears and overconfident newfag trips on suicide watch

>>11951636
Acreage Holdings is the largest US weed company

>>11951645
Hemp is not weed

>>11951642
have you sold your AMD puts yet

>>11951657
Yes, fortunately before the massive green dildo from yesterday. I would be utterly fucked if I hadn't sold those ones.

>>11951655
true
still, I'd bet Acreage Holdings would have some interest in growing varieties of cannabis specifically intended for industrial use

SSO and QLD if you want to make it, if you want to fail then buy other stuff

My theory on GE is their debt. With interest rates rising their debts becomes unsustainable. With rates remaining the same it buys them more time.

THREADLY REMINDER THAT DIVIDENDS ARE YOUR FREN

Green ID = GREEN tomorrow

buy Snap, 100% of children use it
Buy Colgate, its the number 1 toothbrush in mexico

>>11951764
D-divanonchan? A-are you winning yet?

>>11951713
only if they attempt to refinance or if they received a non-fixed loan. that's like T, but T is in a better position than GE based on its revenue streams

Just went in EA call 4x, it cant fall forever, right?

Will CGC be the Amazon of weed bros?

>>11951784
with Trump in office, erryone is WINNING

>>11951788
Remember how WWII was won by female cyborg soldiers??? Yeah me neither, fuck EA...

>>11951789
Amazon will be the Amazon of weed, they already have a pharmacy licence in all 50 states.

Ding ding ding! How did everyone do today? I’m up .11%, I’m holding off making big trades while the fed and g-20 is going on. Got some smuck though, I’m gonna jelly my dick into some profit

>>11951811
>not just growing your own dope in your own trailer regardless of laws.

>>11951825
Green day so can't complain

>>11951668
>>11951675
Sure hope the noobs arnt betting 25% or more of your portfolio at once

>tfw I went all in cryptos and my gf went all in stocks and shes doing way better than me

>>11951825
Up six bucks today in unrealized gains. But putting cracker barrel on a limit order was probably one of my best decisions, turns out I guessed the price exactly right and got it at it's absolute high for the day and the year.

>>11951825
Down 1%
Also bought Smuckers and TSN

>>11951825
down .9 but i went up 6% yesterday so im still good

>>11951825
decent day
there was a lot of bullish movement on VTGN after hours yesterday and premarket today, and an extremely high volume of shares was trading from 9:30 to 9:40
something's gone on with it, but I'm not sure what

>>11951626
I said I was riding this GE bus of the cliff I meant flying to the moon baby..........fuck you bears I hope you loose everything tomorrow

>>11951891
going on*
traded*

it could just be because they got a patent to produce their major drug (AV-101) in Hong Kong, but I feel like there's more to it

>>11951825
Not bad, up %3 but that’s from GE spiking.

>>11951838
If you look at the current retail market for marijuana in the states that have legalized it, the big sellers with the best margins are vapable distillates and extracts. Flower is for boomers who want to remember the 70’s.

>>11951856
Buy low sell high.

>>11951956

>>11951897
You should start tripping GE-sus

shorting

>>11951825
-.30percent down which is about 300 bucks but it's mainly my Aurora and GE which have been making a some what come back well GE has

>>11951897
>>11951626
>>11951635
>>11951642
Why is everyone making these kinds of positions on GE, I don't get it

>>11951999
checked. I have no idea, it's terrifyingly high in debt and exists in a chaotic state, and is still somehow way above a 1 PB
Why anyone would by this I don't know

>>11951956
they have great dividend growth history and surprise with special dividends

from my understanding its the most profitable restaurant chain per square foot

>>11951969
Idk I'll think about it >>11951999
>>11952025
It's like fucking a Thai hooker raw some of us just like to gamble

>>11952033
Yeah, I saw that they were falling after a bad earning report and just knew that the underlying value was way higher. I also saw they were investing in a delivery service which I thought was genius.

>>11951999
Because they don't know how to gtfo of a dieing company

>>11952062
They were failing well before their most recent earnings report

>>11952110
market buys

yikes my shit all up brehs lmao

>>11951614

>>11952110
what are the transaction costs and fees for those trades?

>>11952246
Zero.

>>11952172
+- $0.01 when you only buy 2-4 at a time is nothing
that only screws you when you order over 100 shares
I was young, and its not like GE has wild price swings like some meme-ish stocks

i think one of those market buys actually was for a penny less than the "current" price when i hit buy (because it dropped while i was placing the order)

>>11952246
$0.00 (and $0.00 monthly)

>>11952279
still seems weird that this is /smg/, not /robinhood general/

>>11952337
Are people on here mainly use it. I mean I have seen some of you use it but I was under the impression that fidelity and vangaurd we're Kings here

>>11952398
If you are a real big TA guy or day trader then RH sucks ass. If you are just doing swings and options on top of regular buy n’ hold investment then RH can’t be beat for the cost.

>GME down almost 12% after hours, after dropping 2.6% beforehand
I know one of you fags made a call on them, hopefully you minimized your losses by selling it already. Of course, I have no fucking clue why you would expect them to beat earnings in the first place.

What's going to make money tomorrow? Or do I just throw my $5,000 into QQQ and let it ride?

>>11952398
up until robinhood started trading crypto too these threads were specifically for it, the website was always in the OP

it was assumed that most in the thread were using it, unless they had 5 figures or more to invest with

the number of users of other brokers on here seems to have increased as time goes on

not sure if its because people found better brokers
or if RH users lost it all and cashed out
or if more new people here start with something besides robinhood

>>11952411
RH is great if you use something else to chart and TA

i have no idea how anyone could invest using only robinhoods graphs though, or at least do that without losing money overall

ive also heard of people joining an actual broker, then using that to TA, but using rh to actually buy and sell, putting no actual money into the other broker (or nothing besides required minimum anyways)

>>11952433
ill let you know tomorrow afternoon

>even 100k in the market ain't shit and won't give you meaningful returns to pay for things because everything is so fucking expensive and gets worse every year
>just to get to that level will take me many years

having an existential crisis. help

>>11952433
i'm not a big fan of ETFs because they usually have 100-500 stocks, which means you're buying overvalued stocks. diversification doesn't really help you out much after 20-30 stocks in different sectors. Therefore I find it better to own 30 individual stocks that I can pick rather than something like QQQ. but that's just me.

>>11952492
The only time I ever made money on a stock was with ATVI last year, everything else I bought failed. I don't really get how reading charts helps me buy stocks when it just seems to be random anyways and I just want to hold long-term.

>>11952513
its a marathon not a sprint

>>11952531
buy things you think will be up ten years from now

then you wont panic and sell as soon as you go red

its more about reading companies than it is reading charts

also TA is a lagging indicator by definition, past success does not guarantee future success

>>11952513
become a longterm dividend investor like me. compounding interest, especially with dividend growth + DRIP, is a wonderful thing.

reading other people blogging about it gives perspective on what type of yoy results in growth you can achieve

I lost about 2 grand today. I want to kms.

>>11952772

could always be worse

>>11952774
What's this?

>>11952772
Realized or unrealized?

>>11952789
a photoshop. i can tell because some of the pixels and because i've seen a few shops in my time

If I make really good options plays, could I start charging /biz/ to follow along? You kids have robinhood and other kiddie brokers w/ options chains, right?

>>11952805
it's risky business anon

>>11952789

What happens when your surgeon doesn't completely remove a tumor from growing on your head.

>>11952800

It's real.

>>11952821
He would be A brain dead or B dead you got any sause for this

>>11952798
>>11952772
Guessing you're a newfag for wanting to kys over a loss that happened one day
He's asking "Are you still holding the stocks you lost money on, or did you sell them"
If you're still holding onto them, then it would be smart to wait for them to go back up, assuming you didn't buy complete garbage companies

>>11952842

B.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/253330884_Scalp_Reconstruction_after_Resection_of_a_Large_Recurred_Proliferating_Trichilemmal_Tumor_Using_an_Anterolateral_Thigh_Free_Flap

>>11952861
fuck me sideways in the goatass

>>11952861
Huh the human body is a hell of a thing being able to survive so much

how come the future price isn't updating on investing.com? Where can I see the 24/7 price of S&P500 futures?

>>11951825

Red day overall but nothing broke support either. Is shrug day and wait and see.

News came out earlier than US Farm Bill final version includes legalization of hemp as an industrial crop. That's good for a lot of the CBD focused dude weed outfits.

>>11951789
>Will CGC be the Amazon of weed bros?

Not for a while. It depends on how federal legalization plays out. Seems to be slippery slope in that direction going, and you'll almost certainly see candidates running with fed legal on their platform for the next election. The thing to look out for is solid progress towards fed legal followed by Constellation Brands exercising warrants and taking majority control of Canopy. That's when things get fun.

Canopy is hanging around lower trend line at the moment. Not a bad time to buy if you want to go long right now, however, I think it will drop down to around $41(CAN) again to test the trend a final time before breaking out of the descending triangle.

>>11952894
We really can't. Some people just get lucky.

Baggie if we all pitched in could you ask this this chick if she’ll fuck herself with a dildo with “Rate Hike” written on it while screaming, “Fuck me harder Uncle Powell!”

>>11951825
+2% today. I've had a phenomenal week so far. Up 65% so far and plan on adding to that tomorrow.

>>11952989
Interesting stuff. Personally I'm bullish on weed industry. It has too much going for it. Its the ultimate cool and trendy thing for zoomers, at the same time the medical benefits are super helpful to the boomers. And its used for a lot more than just smoking.

Thoughts on EMMBF? 3rd highest revenues in Canada I believe, they have a deal with APH to supply weed and are focused on value added products. Focused on alternative methods of consuming cannabis such as pills, sprays, vapes, topicals etc. Extended release pain relief pills coming out in January 2019. Could be a 10 bagger possibly imo

Sold my last option today. I am now a boring bitch.

>>11953047
What the fuck

>>11953075
SPY calls tomorrow brother. China will bend at the knees this weekend.

>>11953071

I don't like the chart for a swing trade right now. Dunno enough about their wheelings and dealings to comment on future potential for a long hold. TA wise, it's firmly in a downtrend but, on the positive, it does have a clear support at $1.10(CAN) that has held a couple tests this year. I have it on watchlist waiting for a break out of the falling trend.

>>11953047
i liked the Uncle Sam version better where she's reported to the IRS, but I'd throw a fiver in on this

>>11951614
https://abcc.com/option/market/btcusd_usdt_usdt_1_day_20181129_0800_call_usdt

Does anyone have a recommendation for options back testing software?

Quite neutral and boring market still

Good fucking work to the anon who was shilling CEI. Already lost .63 of my 7.15 investment.

>>11953264
>Quite neutral and boring market still

Sort of, but things are right on the brink of making a definitive decision for future price trends. SP500 flirted with a breakout out of the short term descending trend today, sticking a wick out above it before closing as a doji for the day.

this is not ok

>>11953084
Good luck with that bro. S&P500 futures are already red.

Was a mixed bag. Red day but I used it to increase my Armain stake (Armin did a dive but now it's recovered). Disney hiked the Div so I rewarded them by buying more Dis. Also bought some WTR. Having stock in a water and natural gas company is never a bad thing when the market shits. Also I like the way they constantly expand out so they ain't trapped by a single revenue stream or two. Rounded out the day by buying more KO and dumping more money into my VFORX fund.

>thought about going all in on tnxp the other day
>don't
>goes from .4 to 9.5 essentially overnight

i have been kicking myself all fucking day

>>11953524
ooooooooooof anon talk about once in a life time way to have made it

>>11953524
how do I look out for these stocks ?

>>11953803
Low float screening with a catalyst.

Organigram earnings out tomorrow. This thing will likely confirm the technical breakout in progress on earnings beat. Chart is right on the cusp. Beacon Securities is mad bullish on it too with a $11.50 price target.

https://www.cantechletter.com/2018/11/organigram-has-huge-upside-beacon-securities-says/

>>11953803
Sometimes it's just a mater of luck. Then a lot of reading. That's how I hit on Armin. Saw the name banded about, visited the company website and read up on what they were doing. Read a few more bits about them on other sites. Decided that they had a product that was actually good w/a good shot of making it. Invested a small amount, to test the waters. Today I increased my stake. The potential payoff is huge with this one, it's no longer a "maybe" anymore. You know how popular the Viagra or Lipotor pill is? Well this has the same potential.

>>11953524
The only way to know about those is to be part of the Jew groups that pump those stocks.

>>11953892
glad to see someone else into ARMN i bought at 5 and re dip at 16 im 3k in see you at 20 agian anon

>now taking Social Impact of Technology
>every topic has a section where they discuss Marx
This should be illegal.

>>11953928
This

>>11953892
To give an idea of possible short term profit:
Current stock is at $17.40 per
Has a target price of $65 per (right now)

Drug is not even selling in vast qualities yet; that comes later at a nice 2.5 billion profit by 2021.

I have right now 50 shares. 50 x 65 equals out to a nice $3,250.00. But I think that target price will be hiked once the drug starts selling in waves or a buyout offer is put on the table. $80 per is not out of reach. This also doesn't factor in if I buy more shares down the road. Profit is coming to me, thanks to Amarin.

Good news for T stockholders. T is going to be spending 2019 paying down the debt it has. So that fat Div is safe. So T won't be going the fate of GE anytime soon. Stockholders can sleep better now.

>>11954165
im pretty balls deep in T and was thinking of starting to sell half of it. they are the most in debt company in the world if im not mistaken. thank god they are going to start doing something about it now if the usa would start doing the same i be a happy camper

>>11954208
the USA will never pay its debt because nobody has the nuts to try and collect.

>>11951999
It's like buying Sears 5 years ago:
>it'll recover guise! It's been around for over 100 years!

>>11954268
the country full of pussy eye people are making a go at it

>>11954208
Just sell premium to reduce your cost.

is amarin really a gold mine? or is it full of bagholders?!

>>11954559
I'm a deep in it and believe in the company it hit 23 not long ago and it's slowly climbing back up but then again I'm 2k in GE soooooooo why trust me

>>11954653
Points for balls....

>>11954653
GE cost basis?

>>11954559
Its a goldmine. The drug is just waiting FDA stamp for wide rollout approval. The drug is already being used for very very high risk folk. They (Amarin) are getting ready. Sending out sales reps next year. 2.5 Billion in profit by 2021.

>>11954653
Current stock target price is listed at 65.00. Which is before the drug is out in waves I might add. I think that price will be hiked once the drug starts selling.

>>11954704
i went in at 8.20 at 2k thinking it was the bottom turns out it wasnt. im also in NIO/ACB/T/KO/WTR/AMRN/ATV. my lame ducks are atv and GE everything else is GREEEEEEN

>>11954845
dude are you just putting money into /smg/ meme stocks? lmao, that is balls.

The only emotions that I've felt today have been paranoia, anxiety, and panic

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>>11954866
i got some other stuff but its chump change compare to those. 70 percent of it is in T and KO the rest are in the onces i listed

>>11954901
Scream with me pls

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>>11954901
my bags wiped out a full years gains but all this volatility puts me at peace for some weird reason.

>>11954916
a

>>11954910
set your limit sell on GE for 8.50 and you will be able to exit by the end of year for a slight gain. if you can't handle the ride anymore that is.

>>11954916
I’m okay. Bought some TVIX.

Guys,,,, Is Trump going to fuck up the markets tomorrow?

>>11954938
like i say everytime someone mentions GE check the top of the thread. Im riding this bus/ship off the cliff/to the moon BABYYYYYYYYYYYY
>>11954916
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

>>11954959
Donny is very aware of his impact on the market. In fact, he keeps it as a point of pride. He wants his legacy to be the most prosperous American president ever and he will do everything in his power to keep this golden bull run going till 2024.

>>11954959
>>11954974
JEB SAVE US

>>11954927
You actually have a reason to scream. I'm jealous that you're calm.

>>11954935
>>11954969
Thanks for screaming with me. My first day at Amazon is on Monday, and I am fucking freaking out.
I should probably dump my QQQ calls so that they don't distract me.

>>11954916
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>>11954969
you. i like you. you going to buy more if it breaks $6?

>>11954006
>humanities class

thats why

STEM graduates tend to become more conservative leaning when they graduate for some reason, while social "sciences" graduates tend to become more liberal

pic semi related, i cant find a graph of political leanings by degree, any google search of those words together just brings up pages and pages of 2016 presidential predictions, shits fucking annoying

also fun-fact: people with a masters or a PHD tend to be more republican leaning than people who just have a 4 year degree
but you dont hear about that all that often in the news..

>>11955041
as long as there is volume, there is hope.

>>11955041
>My first day at Amazon is on Monday
what are you doing? babysitting a data center?

>>11955052
naw if it hits 4 or maybe 5 but after that il let it ride and just take the share when it splits im mainly in because of the aviation that alone is worth the 8 bucks

>>11955062
Philosophy is high

>>11955062
It’s construction management. Not STEM but not something I thought I’d have to take a shit ton of social sciences for. Whatever.

My biggest holdings are:
VForx
T
AMRN

Followed by these in lesser amounts
KO
Dis
SWPPX
Fox **
WTR
Comcast
CFG
Apple
Microsoft
WMT
CTL *

Nothing fancy but all in all I'm assured of growth and income over the next 20 years or more.

* Everyone overlooks them; dunno why. Fat div of 0.54 per and a fat yield of 11%. Stock is cheap atm at $18 - 19 per.

** sometime in early 2019 my Fox will be added to Disney due to the merger closing.

>>11955095
>Philosophy is high

A lot of stuff is way too high on that list. History, art history, drama etc. For drama I imagine they're including famous actors which brings the whole average way higher than it should be.

>>11955041
>My first day at Amazon is on Monday
I am so sorry

>>11955126
>drama is literally almost on the bottom
Philosophy majors have been shown consistently to have among the top two highest IQs (along with Physics usually), MCAT scores and LSAT scores on average.

>>11955138
>drama is literally almost on the bottom

Still too high.

>>11955062
>people with a masters or a PHD tend to be more republican leaning than people who just have a 4 year degree but you dont hear about that all that often in the news..
Maybe because higher level educated people voted for hillary.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/11/09/behind-trumps-victory-divisions-by-race-gender-education/

>>11955138
its because philosophy is a very popular premed major.

>there are combinations of mouseclicks that can unironically make me a billionaire
what a time to be alive!
although not getting it right yet is true torture


>>11954901
>>11954916
>>11955049
thats why you should be an investor, and avoid trading big options positions

less stress and anxiety
which means less medical expenses when you get older, so its a win-win

>>11955072
only if you can correlate volume with a certain price direction


I wonder if there is a way to use volume*price or volume*derivative of price to calculate a stocks true "momentum" (analogous to physical equations, like impulse-momentum equation, or true force equations) (volume is roughly analogous to mass? or would it be momentum? or would it be impulse? or would it be analogous to force?)

I know someday this mathematical autism will make me rich, somehow

>>11955095
after spending 45 minutes trying to google the info I was looking for I decided to just pic a semi-related pic and call it good

>>11955176
and pre-law school

>>11955062
Basically an autism spectrum desu

>>11955111
GE, I dunno. I may buy in at the $5 mark. The debt load is outrageous with no one really knowing how much worse it'll get. True selling/spinning off parts will help but for how long is anyone's guess as well. It just might all be for nothing if the debt keeps piling up. I can't really see anyone buying GE itself, not with all that debt. So really the only good bit would be to buy so you'd get a piece of each spin off at chump change levels.

>>11955183
>I know someday this mathematical autism will make me rich

the market is a non-newtonian fluid with spontaneous entropy generation in any finite volume.

>>11955195
>id kum
lol

>>11955062
>music
>use your graph
>become lil wayne
>btfo now /biz

>>11955214
>the market is a non-newtonian fluid
Which kind, plastic, bigham plastic, dilatant, pseudo-plasticly nonnewtonian?
This might surprise you but there's quite a few kinds of nonnewtonian fluids in the world, and many are quite common (ketchup, toothpaste, water+starch mix)
Is it shear thickening or thinning?
>with spontaneous entropy generation in any finite volume.
Duh, do you even second law?

The better question is, is a stock's current price analogous to position, or velocity? Or is the price itself a second order or higher derivative?

Can a price per time graph be made into a coherent path function? Or is our time domain the markets version of a frequency domain?

Or is price movement more analogous to real non-ideal gas law temperature?

>>11955342
/fit/?

asdf

>>11951842
I have 25% on my portfolio in GE bear spreads...
I'm still itm but I won't lie this run-up to 7.90s level has me spooked.

>>11955376
>Which kind, plastic, bigham plastic, dilatant, pseudo-plasticly nonnewtonian?

if i knew i would be posting from my yacht. thats a cop out i know :^)

>The better question is, is a stock's current price analogous to position, or velocity?

neither, the current price is better modeled as a particle in a gradient imo.

>FDP has a P/E ratio of almost 300
why are these fags higher than stuff like Amazon and Netflix

>>11955488
>I have 25% on my portfolio in GE bear spreads...
Close at $8.20 tomorrow

>>11955522
$8.20 still puts me itm, although that would be REALLY cutting it close.

>>11955488
>25% of your portfolio
yikes that is true torture

sure it is good when that part does well, but when it goes down it hurts

t. AMZN is 35% of my portfolio
riding it from $990 to $2000 was amazing
but watching it drop back to $1500 was absolute torture


>>11955504
>>neither, the current price is better modeled as a particle in a gradient imo.
eh it may be better modeled as temperature, not macroscopic motion

price cant go below $0, just like temperature
price is a scalar value instead of a vector value, just like temperature

>>11955510
Don't they have a duopoly
>>11955488
Cant wait when your on your knees tomorrow at 8.30

OHNONONONONONO

>>11955377

Some of you may consider OGEN. Last time they had an investor conference was that spike above three dollars you will easily see on the chart.

Get in cheap early. Conference is December 6th.

>>11955657
don't buy a small-cap biotech stock if you aren't familiar with its science
the science is the single most important thing that determines if a small-cap biotech company succeeds in the long term or not

Alright, I put $200 into Komodo for a meme. Now, where should I put my real money in the stock market?

>>11955657
This just screams pump and dump no thanks

>>11955510
because its priced to perfection

>>11955708
Armn or ko/T

>>11955708
Komodo and Mona and maybe doge are the only goins worth buying. Good job anon

>>11955708
do your own research and decide for yourself

>>11955708
put options on REITs

>>11955708
Vtsax

Softbank IPO

>>11955526

Opinions?

anons, the next few trading days are going to be crucial, for spy at least. if we don't recover here we're going down. is recession 2019 really a meme?

>>11955561
>macroscopic motion
That isn't what >>11955504 was describing. When physicists say "particle" they almost always mean something absurdly small.

>better modeled as temperature
Nah, >>11955504 was almost correct. He was describing brownian motion. Stocks actually move according to geometric brownian motion, which is very similar. The key difference is that the price movements are log-normally distributed instead of normally distributed. This addresses the issue you pointed out about prices never becoming negative.

>price is a scalar value instead of a vector value
Meh, the math for one-dimensional brownian motion is reaaaaaaaly similar to the math for three-dimensional brownian motion.

>>11955943
also, let's say recession does hit. what are you loading up on at the bottom? $CRSP? $TQQQ? $DLTR? $WMT?

>>11955943
There's is a real possibility of a recession if Trump makes things worst with China and doesn't make progress with EU and Mex/can

>>11955985
>what are you loading up on at the bottom
SPY calls.
>$WMT
This did well in 2008 while the market was dropping, but its performance in 2009 was pretty lame.

>>11956002
The other potential trigger is the record levels of corporate debt. If the fed raises rates too far companies will start defaulting. That being said, I think the fed knows this and will raise rates responsibly.

>>11956066
I'm not too worry about the fed they are adults for the most part and put thought into their decision...Trump on the other hand is well Trump. Jeb should have one

when my items are relisted tomorrow they will be open to people from Alaska, Hawaii and Puerto Rico so I should have a lot more sales in the future. I've had a lot of people from Puerto Rico try and buy from me but now I see that it's the same as shipping to any other state really.

>>11955376
>Or is our time domain the markets version of a frequency domain?
A couple years ago I fooled around with trying to take the discrete fourier transform and inverse dft of stock price histories. I didn't find anything useful. That being said, I didn't put much effort into it, so it is possible that you might find something if you do some clever preprocessing before feeding price data to a fft or ifft.

>>11956148
Imagine how different things would be if Rand Paul had won and abolished the Fed

>>11955979
yea brownian motion really does fulfill all the requirements

fuck, so that means randomness really does win in the end

oh well, i still hold out hope that some exotic Rayleigh dimensional analysis can find some way to predict stock more accurately
the problem is making all the variables relatable, and identifying them all
but there has to be a better way

>>11956313
>>A couple years ago I fooled around with trying to take the discrete fourier transform and inverse dft of stock price histories.
i have the day off so i plan on testing that very thing on afterhours/premarket hours to estimate open price, or mean price of the next day

im not sure how well it would work long term the more i look at it, because whose to say 30 days is a big enough period to get a good result, or 30 years, or even 30 decades of stock data

I imagine finding the right period to analyse to get meaningful results might be even harder to do than getting the data into a program to solve for the sum of functions and getting meaningful data back out

but it might just work for "imaginary" market times (time between market close and market open)

im excited to finally have .csv files of real market data to play around with

>>11956367
Ah yes I can imagine it now the second civil war would be ragging. Lord Amazon would control the west coast and Lord Apple the East coast

>>11951703
Why are these two more attractive than UDOW or TQQQ, honestly

> wasting your time applying math to the market
just buy $SPY every month lmao

>>11956432
3x hasn't proven itself through a recession, while 2x has

so 2x have the benefit of 'buy and never sell' that SPY/QQQ have, whereas you might need to panic sell the bottom with UDOW/TQQQ and load up at the ATH

not having to worry about it is worth any potential gains you MIGHT get with 3x if you actually sell/buy at the correct times, which you will never know during a recession

so just buy 2x and forget about it until your retired

>>11956417
>>Ah yes I can imagine it now the second civil war would be ragging. Lord Amazon would control the west coast and Lord Apple the East coast

nah, it would be lord Bezos ruling the northern west coast, and The Apple Empire controlling the southern west coast

while the eastcoast is in the firm hands of defensive contractors backed by the institutional bank cartel, controlled by Lord Powell and his merciless Federal reserve
(or maybe madam Yellen would still be controlling the great Fed)

>>11956440
why not? worst case scenario i end up learning something new

>>11956454
Thanks brother, makes sense

I'm going to throw a chunk into these two tomorrow to get the party started

>>11956459
>why not?
because math isn't what drives price and it's as close to a random process as you can get.

>>11956406
>I imagine finding the right period to analyse to get meaningful results might be even harder to do than getting the data into a program to solve for the sum of functions and getting meaningful data back out
If you know how to code, numpy and scipy have a lot of nice functions built into them for doing fourier analysis. Pandas will make it super simple to parse your csv file. Experimenting with the time period will require brute force trial and error. Back when I tried looking into this, I used time periods ranging from about a month up to a couple of years.

In addition to working with the raw prices, you may also to try doing a fourier analysis on the price's derivative, the logarithm of the price, or the convolution of the price history and some filter. As I said earlier, I already tried working with the raw prices and didn't find anything useful. This conversation has me wanting to try again... I may spend my weekend revisiting this.

where can i invest in zyklon b?

>>11956459
>>11956600
This reminds me of when I tried to run FFT on the log of prices, filter out "unstable" high frequencies w/ a lowpass (my theory being that fluctuations in price over a small period of time is bullshit information), send it back through IFFT, and try to predict the future.

Unfortunately that didn't work lol. The stock market is random and inefficient.

>>11956406
the price you see on the exchange is a discrete measurement but the market flow is continuous. it's why stock prices can't go below zero but a company can still have negative value through debt. zero is just the lower bound of your instrument.

>>11956600
>>If you know how to code, numpy and scipy have a lot of nice functions built into them for doing fourier analysis.
I know basics but not fluent in any script

but i have matlab and some programs I wrote for it already, so fourier analysis is easy

the real challenge will be finding useful results, and finding a good way to incorporate volume into the analysis somehow

>>11956568
nothing is truly random, even randomness follows fundamental rules

thats the beauty of math

>>11956633
>>>/pol/

If you want to invest in chemical production, CE, KWR, and WLK are options

Anyone investing in the Nvidia dump? They have to be bigger in 10 years right?

>>11956635
>filter out "unstable" high frequencies w/ a lowpass my theory being that fluctuations in price over a small period of time is bullshit information
Alternatively, it is possible that the price movements on short timescales are caused by market psychology and prone to oscillating while price movements on long timescales are caused by news events and therefore not prone to oscillating. If that is the case then applying a lowpass filter was a huge mistake.

>>11956568
Even if price movements are random, there is still money to be made by using good models for that randomness to determine the "fair" value of stock options.

>>11956705
nvda is still in a bubble anon.

>>11954165
a shit load of debt but good luck.

how YIKES'D are we ganna get tomorrow

i usually buy on the 1st and 15th or so of every month, will we have a nice 5% discount by the start of December from current valuations?

i want that cheap shit

>>11956989
We have a small Golden bull run scheduled for tomorrow

>>11956989
just buy APHB and you'll be fine

Matlab anon, you can use
>N=xlsread(filename,sheet,xlRange)
or
>N=csvread(filename)
To read your files

>>11956633
Why you have lice or something?

>>11957004
where do you get the schedule of future price movements

>>11957134
>he doesn’t have the schedule

>>11957134
local freemason lodge

>>11957134
it's in the op

>>11955510
The market maker digs their products

>>11957175
>>11957180
>>11957221
ok, this is epic

>>11955595
still way too high. it has to burn to the ground.

Does the after market mean anything? Will I recover from my 6% loss?

>>11951795
Except for communist faggots. They never win.

>>11957887
On the contrary, trump practically brought the socialist movement back from the dead. Socialist org membership has practically doubled since his election. Zizek was entirely correct to prefer him over Hillary.

Is the ONCS conference going to change anything in the stock price?

>>11957874
>Does the after market mean anything?

Somewhat. It can predict gap up/down for open. Now, whether or not the price instantly moves the opposite direction of the gap is another story.

>>11955985
>TQQQ
yup but we don't know where the bottom is going to be. I guess it's going to be a fucking apocalypse, even bigger than in 2018.

My plan is the following:
*Open a "Compte-Titres" on boursedirect
*Buy some Short ETF here and there everytime the market is bullish.
*When day of the rope arrives in 2019, stack up huge bags of Short ETFs
*Wait for it to bottom
*Sell
*Buy TQQQ when the market starts to recover again
*Repeat for 50 years

>>11958050
Goodluck!

Is MMEN worth a shit in your opinion? They reported a 1087% increase in sales this year since cannabis went recereational. Have an innovative storefront concept. But they’re also hemorrhaging cash and people randomly leave their company with seemingly no explanation. Like their CFO randomly resigned and it isn’t clear why.

> T is going to be spending 2019 paying down the debt it has. So that fat Div is safe.

I don't think you've thought this thru

>>11955165
Only dickless faggots, children, and government parasites joined the kikes in voting for that dumb cunt. Oh, and dead people.

>>11958667
apparently dickless faggots includes all those republican leaning phds, that's all I'm pointing out

pre-market not looking too hot

>>11957916
It's cool. I'm stocked up on ammo. They can use their last breaths to explain why socialism always fails.

>>11959114
>phds
>teaching Baskin-Robbins gender theory at communist-infected kike colleges
>(((republican-leaning)))
I hope I can meet you someday so I can carve your eyes out with a rusty screwdriver.

>>11959114
I am the walrus.

>>11955086
No, writing the shit that they make data centers for

>>11955126
I asked for it, but oh man

>>11959638
coo coo ka-choo, bitch

>>11959693
You’ll be fine. I believe in you.

Good morning anons, ready for another loss on the day?

>>11951614
GET OUT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

G'mornin market frens.

Imagine buying GE yesterday afternoon thinking it was going over $8.

>>11955214
>>11955376

You're both wrong, the market is an ecosystem with Lotka-Volterra dynamics. The individual players all evolving their survival strategies in real-time.

read this book:
> Warning: Physics Envy May be Hazardous to Your Wealth!

marriott hacked, 500M customers' data exposed.
short MAR

>>11960173
>500M customers' data exposed
That's such a huge number, jeez.

>>11960292
That seems like a lot, but if they've already massaged the numbers to downplay the damage then it must be much much worse.

>>11960292
yea the breach includes credit card number, passports number, addresses phone numbers, email address and travel details.
imo it's huge, in comparison the equifax breach .was about 145M customers data

Lately, there's a weird lull in posting activity just before the market opens for the day. You guys all busy scalping the pre-market or what?

>>11960313
definitely, at this point assume all customer data has been leaked.

>>11960086
Too the Moon baby to the moon

Fuck bro how do I profit off of G20

>>11960508
short everything

>>11960540
China etf ?

Fucking PFE has been making me money this whole time but I’ve been neglecting it.

>>11955165
nowhere in that article does it say what you just said. what is this strategy called? why do trumpet idiots always link to articles that disagree with them? i’m seeing this more and more as though you’re monkeys mimicking how other people debate online with links to articles and stuff.

anyway. i want my 4 minutes back.

Can the bull even be stopped?

>>11957031
thanks ill have to get started on it soon

and also on waking up

VTGN, buy or no

>>11960508
short Argentina

SCHG up 3.36%, IWO up 2.86%, VXF up 2.40%.

I love this bear market.

> mfw NVDA

Keep going, daddy doesn't like his bags.

>>11955041
you get stock options?

>>11955111
checked

i think century link is a dying brand, which is why their stock is cheap and their div is high. Its completely unsustainable as their payout ratio in the last two quarters are 280% and 490% respectively. heading in the right direction but borrowing money to buy back stock or pay out divs is not something a company wants to do in a rising interest rate market

FE good buy at these prices?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xyNYLZVisQ

>>11961040
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrEP3RPgEao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93ByMEx50Zc


>>11960732
>replying to a retarded commie faggot
ISHYGDDT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoWMmZEoT84

Crude halted a free fall at psychological 50 level. Euro in trouble again

Welcome
to the Golden bull run

>>11960941
Yup. Base salary in Seattle maxes out at 160k, so I'm fairly certain that all the directors and higher ups are paid primarily in stocks

>>11961120
every single market is holding its breath for the G20 shenanigans, then the direction for the next couple months will be decided

>>11961166
This bull run could use a little more bull and a little more run

investing is for faggots.
traders are the chads of the market, investors are the kids that sit alone at lunch.

>>11961168
That’s the way it is for most west coast techn companies. I get like %20 of my salary as a stock bonus, the multiplier goes up as you get promoted.

>>11961230
>>>/wsb/

>>11961247
how much money did you make today?

>>11961267
How much money did you lose today?

>>11961295
>salty investcuck
lmao every time.
i'm up 1%, only took 1 trade OTD. Nothing crazy, but it's quick, easy money.

how about you, tripfaggot?

>>11961328
>Bragging about 1%
Lurk more redditor.

>>11961353
>weeb faggot
>not r*ddit
still didn't answer my question dork lmao.

>>11961364
You seem upset.

>Kraft heinz acquires 'Paleo darling' Primal Kitchen

not impressed, although I think I have there avocado oil

>>11961383
>still hasn't answered
kek

>>11961383
His $60 AMD calls are decaying rapidly, he's a little irritable

>>11961399
>>11961397
s t i l l
w a i t i n g

>>11961397
>WAHHHHH TELL ME HOW MUCH MONEY YOU'RE MAKING

>>11961328
is this another cryptofag coming over here after they all got taken by a scam?

>>11961407
>keeps memeing instead of answering
lel it's easier to just say you're red OTD.
pathetic.

so much hostility today, come on y'all it's friday! be frens.

>>11961406
>>11961397
they only have about $500 in their account bro.. don't worry about it.

>>11961168
nice, good job scoops

>>11961421
It's more fun to watch you seethe, I don't need validation from a redditor high off his first options trade.

What's the deal with the new trade agreement signed today? Good or bad?

>>11961452
sounds like pure cope to me.

>>11961425
is probably right. more meme folders than $ in your account lol, what a cuck.

>>11961461
your ID is based

>>11961477

Yeah I kind of feel bad I wasted it on that question, and right when the thread is about to hit the post limit.

https://www.androidauthority.com/gionee-bankruptcy-gambling-929742/

This is your brain on China

>>11961473
show your portfolio value

>>11951764

$200 in tax-free dividends today.

Feeling comfy.

rkg is dead but for real this time

>>11961490

>>11960732
>College graduates backed Clinton by a 9-point margin

How is /biz/ feeling about buying the SEDG dip

>>11961541

Go all in

Source: My id is all caps letters

>>11961550
i will probably sell IQ in a few hours and buy SEDG managed to get a nice 3% on IQ from the dip a few days ago

>>11961422
best post

>>11961564
I have 350 calls on this trade war

>>11961518
>making fun of others
bruh its not about the size of the portfolio, its about the frens we make

but really i make more in passive income every year than you have in your entire investment portfolio. stop being a dick

>>11961599
congratulations.
now take that soft shit back to l*ddit.

anyone know how to export a single stock's data from tradingview? how the fuck do you export to .csv format?
their site is kind of shit for this feature they specifically advertise for

>>11961461
>What's the deal with the new trade agreement signed today? Good or bad?
we dont know yet, thats why market is sideways

>>11961520
that does not mention anything comparing masters and PHD to bachelor's degree

it just lumps them all under the term "graduate"

it also does nothing to compare the results between various different majors and fields

underwater basket weaving degree is not the same as a applied physics degree, and neither is the same as a history of minority women in media degree

the article completely misses the point that you declare it to be proof against

nice job of fishing for pageviews though

>>11961609
yup, upset crytpofag after his mememoney went away

>>11961646
>le cryptofag
lol nice damage control, cringey fuck.

>>11961665
>>11961609
Do I need to remind you that YOU were the one who posted a reddit pic? >>11961230

The only cringe here is you trying to act hard on a korean basket weaving forum.

Does anyone in here have an IRA with fidelity? if so are you able to sell covered calls in it?

>>11961675
how much did you make today?

get your shitposting up
we need this thread cleared before lunchbro shows up

>>11961723
just start a new one now then.

>>11961723
>308 replies

honestly we could use a new bread soon

>>11961753
theres protocol
but ok, making

>>11961786
>>11961786
>>11961786
New
newwe

>>11961767
>theres protocol
i say over 300 you're safe to start making a new thread.. especially if the thread is full of a few poorfags arguing about who is poorer than who

There is going to be good news from the g20 this weekend. Stop sitting on your hands and buy you pansies.

>>11961168
Performance bonuses and stocks.
When you get into upper->top management, everything is about chasing that fiscal year end bonus which can be +$600k for the director level guys.

Also I work remotely for a Seattle based company, the top salary there is well over $200k but it's an AI company printing money right now looking to get bought out by Google.

>>11961801
This.
I'm betting we see miraculous Chinese/US trade pact 'framework' announced. Anyway I'm all in buying

>>11961665
hahaha, such an angry little elf

>>11961625
Here's the data for post grads if you're going to insist on being autistic

11961898
no wonder your a gommiefaggot

>>11961923
The original claim was literally
>>people with a masters or a PHD tend to be more republican leaning than people who just have a 4 year degree
Which is empirically false. that's literally been my whole point.

>>11961707
more than you