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Yes. I'm not american, but as far as I'm concerned, physical labor is very valued because there aren't many people who want to do it. You can try painting business too.

>>11907534
Always thought about doing this

>>11907534
Also look into pressure washing service anon. Same type of scenario with the exception of startup cost being lower. Check your area to see going rates and just undercut them a bit until you get established. I personally know a guy who started with $500 cash and now has 3 crews running and he is doing pretty well.

>>11907588
My brother does this with pressure washing, him and his friend bought one and will make an extra 100-200 a week for a few extra hours worth of work.

I did this and I'm now a multimillionaire because I give preteens minimum wage to do manual labor.

Take a loan out for equipment, brainwash some disadvantaged (poor, absent fathers) kids about the importance of hardwork and how much money you can give them, then sit and wait.

don't ever do physical labor yourself for prolonged periods unless you want to remain a slave

>>11907634
the absent father thing is rlly vital because if they have daddy issues theyll look up to you while you squeeze them like a lemon. huhuhuh You may even get a fuck out of mom

also if they have fathers who realize you're underpaying their children, you will have to face them. probably not good idea

>>11907534
>Id be happy at 15hr. Any thoughts? My next step was calling around to lawn companies getting quotes to see what the going rate is.

Not a bad idea. If you charge 10% less some people might take a chance on you, but you're probably not going to be able to do as good a job, or as quickly, as a fleet of mexicans how have been doing it for years. It will be a learning experience either way.

Pressure washing would be a good start, maybe look into local government/councils that need graffiti removal or stone/brick work cleaning. Clean out pools or garbage bins.

>>11907652
>>11907634
>hire a bunch of poor disenfranchised youth with nothing to lose
yep nothing can go wrong there

>>11907534

You are looking at 15-25 per lawn. Now find 100 clients that you do their lawn on the weekly. You could pull 1500 a week , which is pretty good. Considering the time , have a friend help you , and you can do more lawns quicky. But if u lay sod , you can also make a lot depending on the sq ft of the place you are doing. I advise following the "Cut the grass for homeowners @ 15 dollars a yard x 100 / week plan" 6k a month now minus your overhead and expenditures.

>>11907534
Painting is where it's at mate.
You can hook several thousand dollar jobs and sub out the work to Mexicans who'll work for 10 bucks an hour.

Take a couple days and look at painter advertisements.
99% of the pictures these companies use are found online.

Hook a full interior paint job, pay your Mexicans with your 3k and customer pays out at end of job.

You must have local ads, just post in the town of choosing saying looking for painters 10$ an hour.
Tell anybody you hire your not paying unless your satisfied with their work.

>>11907534
Years ago knew a guy who did this. Busted his butt in the summer. Did nothing in winter. Lived well in a good neighborhood with mcmansions. Wife worked too. If you're willing to do the work it can be done. My area is getting over saturated with it

Really, your only options are homeowners yards and businesses properties that are needing someone new. Most businesses won't switch to someone new just for price alone if they have a reliable current provider, expecially because it's usually at least a yearly contract. Most homowners will probably go by word of mouth. If their neighbor has good service by someone they will just go with the same.

>>11907588
>>11907622
Problem is I dont know anything about pressure washing. Not even sure what the market would be.

There's a shit ton of pipewelders and ag equipment here. Do they pay to have their stuff pressure washed?

>>11907719
I figure I can do 1 lawn an hour at 18ish to cover my fuel expenses. 100 lawns a week isn't realistic imo as you'd have to mow in under 30 minutes not including drive time which probably isn't going to happen.

>>11907723
Ive never painted before though. I have mowed lawns since im a home owner.

>>11907747
Similar story for my cousin which is why i thought of it but he plows in winter.

>>11907534
> I fell for the STEM meme and got btfo by a chink infested job market

You mean you got into STEM thinking you would coast but it's not 1970 and there are now people in the field actually working hard because they don't take everything for granted like you?

> muh muh chinks taking my job cause I just sit on 4chan instead of study. MAGA

kys

>>11907534
I was going to start a green lawn mowing service and market it as a premium service to eco-normies. These are already happening in various parts of the country. I may still do it but have a comfy sit-on-ass gov IT job atm.

Acquire:
truck with ladder rack to hold panels
4x 300w solar panels
4x 12v AGM deep cycle batteries in a 2S2P 24v config
24v pure sine inverter

Li-Ion Lawn Mower: ego or Kobalt 56V with biggest battery

All of this will set you back $2-3000. I bet you could get $50-75 a week from the right types.

Marketing points:
-100% green no ebil fossil fuels
-quieter than gas powered service

>>11908978
Make app for customers for payment and feelgood stats:

-show before / after photos of yard
-show how many CO2 tons saved
-show how many barrels oil not consumed
-put socials link in there so they can brag to friends and get you more biz

Also you can automate this with a little r&d:
-rig up electric mower with cameras
-rig up RC control for it with Arduino drone tech
-don't bother trying to make auto mower - just make system to control over Internet and hire pajeets to cut grass from Mumbai for 50 cents.

>>11908208
I worked on a variety of projects every year of undergrad in my field and graduated with a 3.98 gpa. That's why I graduated with a paid off house and zero debt with the cash to start a biz. Keep projecting your laziness though.

Yes, indians and chinks fabricating work history IS a problem regardless of what you meme.

>>11908978
I live in oil country no onea cares about that. Also, envirofags are brokedicks living in apartments. Real money doesn't put their money in that shit beyond token tax writeoff donations.

>>11907534
Do your market research. More of it. This is a sound idea, but it sounds like you really need to learn a lot more. But do it quickly, and don't be afraid to work cheap until you accumulate experience. Then never settle for what you have, look to intelligent expansion and good business sense at every step - don't let a month go by without analyzing your business model. That's the real way millionaires are made.

>>11909756
>I live in oil country no onea cares about that. Also, envirofags are brokedicks living in apartments. Real money doesn't put their money in that shit beyond token tax writeoff donations.


IDK I think a lot of aging facebook addicted hippy boomers would go for something like that. I think there's a market for it.

>>11907534
You failed college didn't you?

>>11907827
>I've never painted before.
Steve jobs never wrote a line of code. Not an excuse.

>>11907534
I live in an uppity middle class town in New England and this is literally what every college dropout and high school retard gets into. I know one guy who owns a business and is trying to get out of it. Don't think it's incredibly profitable. Plant bedding in the spring, cut grass in the summer, fall clean up, winter plowing, repeat. I have no respect for these people, personally. They walk around like the baddest mother fuckers out there but they make a living doing the most useless and unnecessary shit on the planet.

Nobody relies solely on a push behind. You'll want a zero turn riding mower to compete probably. Much faster and you'll be creating fewer lines in the grass, which homeowners prefer

OP got out witb a bachelors (not even masters LMAO) and barely got D’s. Now he complains nobody will hire him because of some alleged chink job market (when engineers have never made more money than today in the western world)

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>>11909903
Zero turn mowers don't fit in city residential lots.

Guy sounds like every blue collar who likes to poormouth. Doesn't mean it's a bad gig.

>>11907534
Long Island here, where it seems like no one mows their own lawn. I work from home, so all day long, I hear fucking leaf blowers and mowers, and each house uses a different company. I want to shoot them.

Here is what I see. I guess it's successful? Truck + trailer filled with large mower that one of the Mexican's rides (standing up, not a riding mower). One white guy managing things, and at least 2-3 Mexican illegals. Unleash all those faggots at once, spend about 15 minutes on each yard, then on to the next. All day long, probably 10 hours.

But then you have to build up a list of clients to be able to do that. Good luck.

I'm a tradesman and I get a lot of work from the Nextdoor website. Try posting on there and ask people to make posts about you.

A few posts in a high income area and you'll be making $25+ an hour in no time

>>11909914
To his defense, engineering is a shit job.

>>11909996
God I hope no

Does anyone have any knowledge about dam engineering? Im second year in civil and want to specialize with dams. I just love dams for some reason, was wondering how the work is and how the pay is

tbqh I don't think lawncare has a future. Its a fad and its going to fade away. The future is jungles and overgrowth and not giving a fuck

If the barriers to entry are low, its a highly competitive marketplace to begin with and you are not going to have an easy time

https://youtu.be/tkXhx9wIbio

pretty good analysis of the market where im from

>>11910072
If you like dams you will probably like it. It'll take several years before you become a project manager, so at the beginning you'll be doing peon shit. Just don't buy the bullshit schools sell you. They prop up the career into a pedestal and make it seem like this cool career where you'll design and do all this cool shit. It turns out it's just a glorified cubicle job with mundane tasks or you'll be putting out fires from shitty dumb contractors. The best advice I can give you: Get an internship ASAP, before its too late.

>>11907534
Where do you live, anon?
Here's the secrets to doing well in this business:
1) Do GOOD work, don't cut corners. Make the homeowners proud to come home to their nicely groomed lawn and landscaping.
2) Be reliable. Show up on time and on schedule.
3) Make yourself readily available, and advertise your services intelligently. Most of these guys don't advertise at all. They go on Craigslist or go door to door like jabronis.
4) Be responsive. Don't take a long time to get back to an existing client or a potential new one
5) Build up a clientele of residential, hire a crew to do the work, and start focusing on corporate office building clients and large building client contracts. That's where the big $ is.

If you want to put the manual labor in to start I'm happy to take on the client building/business side of things for you as a partner. If you're interested drop me an email at lawnbizchan@gmail.com. Otherwise, I hope the advice helps and good luck.