/biz/ - Business & Finance

So /biz/, how are your stocks doing today? Comfy holdings? Easy divs? Haha, good job.

>draw random meme lines on a graph you have no stake in
>gets followed like it's a natrual law
>draw meme lines on something you've got money in
>instantly does the exact oposite of what you predicted

Buy BRAP

Fuck the stock market watch Anime

Real thread here:
>>11828073

VIX isn't really going parabolic though. Makes you think about this sell off.

>>11828099
It’s not not determined.

So much red

ONE NOTHING WRONG WITH ME

>>11828105
everytime you post a GEjak, I laugh. Thanks.

FAKE AND GAY THREAD

MIGRATE
>>11828073
>>11828073
>>11828073

>tfw green today

BROOOOOOOOS DOW IS DYING

TRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMPF!!!!

TWO NOTHING WRONG WITH ME

everybody is simply buying an additional helping of QLD and SSO during this dip, right?

this is where true retirement comes from, cheap stuff on sale for weeks and months at a time

It’s ok Anon. We still have each other.

me wonder what happen to market after it dies

>>11828140
accept your loss like a man

>>11828161
she looks sad

I'm studying to get into this stuff next year.

Is a broker just a program/company that I directly use, or is there a real person on the other end that buys and sells what I want?

MAKE IT STOP AAAAAAA

do I keep my QQQ puts at 157.5 for tomorrow or sell EOD?

>>11828176
>is there a real person on the other end that buys and sells what I want?
>fat fingers your trade
>whoops haha, well, there goes your retirement haha.
>JUSTd

just healthy correction

THREE NOTHING WRONG WITH ME. Liquidate and go all in TVIX and SQQQ. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

>>11828166

blow my asshole faggot

>>11828225
amazing.

LET THE PROFITS HIT THE FLOOR
LET THE PROFITS HIT THE FLOOR
LET THE PROFITS HIT THE
FLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR

i meant to fart and i just shit my pants a little bit

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH

>>11828158
of course
real ballers know all time highs soon

THREADLY REMINDER THAT DIVIDENDS ARE YOU FREN

and corrections are healthy for a golden bull

Anyone else here up 20%? Feels good being in cannabis biopharma

>>11828272
What are you’re earnings with dividends so far?

>>11828298
nah i'm down but still over $1m so it's cool

>>11828272
I'm just curious, at any point in your life did you hold or plan to hold centurylink?

>>11828253
thats a pleasure only winners get for have

>>11828211
You faggots were screaming and panicking 6 months ago when this same exact shit happened.

>it's the Trump economy now!!!
>ORANGE MAN BAD!
>Obama save us!!

Then people realized fundamentals ARE strong, markets rallied to new highs, and King Nigger tried to take credit for the upswing.

Markets don't just "crash" suddenly. 2008 was a year of steady decline (i.e. No record highs) until the final turn in October 2008. Even the 1929 downturn took 3 years to fully materialize.

I see no reason for the market to flop, unless Trump basically goes full ham and declares war on China. Which I'm okay with too, fuck China.

>>11828261
>mfw smug posting eliminates all fear and pain

>>11828341
so when buy?

>>11828298
That chart literally gives me anxiety.

Cannabis is a meme, make what you can and get out asap imo.

>mfw bought a lot of GOLD at 1220
>mfw it's still lagging with price and breakout

you faggots better jump into this

>>11828341

>"orange man good!!"

KYS
people are losing money

>>11828195
ffs, I'm just confused as to how the broker system actually works and want some clarification.

>>11828392
If we knew how it worked, we wouldn't need brokers anon. We would just buy the stocks ourselves commission free.

>>11828342
Posting cute anime grills has the same effect but is several times more effective.

>BTC about for break 3k

>>11828352
Just cost average, like every other sensible person would. You can't time the markets, unless you're Jewish or underaged faggot looking to lose his neet buxs on meme stocks.

>>11828410
That... is just fucked enough to be believable.

>>11828186
SOMEONE STOP SHIT POSTING AND HELP

who here /no tengo dinero/

>>11828414
posting dead anime girls the ultimate analgesic

>>11828437
your puts are worthless
hold them anyway to help fuel the bull

>>11828387
So you're losing money since November 2016? Did you go full Paul Krugman and short the market while it rallied 40% in 2017? Did you buy at ATH in September 2018 and are trying to find an excuse to pit your jelly hands on Trump?

You KYS you stupid fuck. Go back into your shitcoin threads. That's where the real crash is happening.

>>11828415
>>11828446
I just got liquidated on bitmex. Rip $200 swing trade.

>memecoins headed below 4k
I hope none of you bought into this.

>>11828410
>>11828392
>these are the people me am buying stocks against

>>11828415
btc is well and truely dead isn't it

>>11828341
this
fundamentals have unironically never been stronger. Fake and gay ass dip

https://bitcoinist.com/us-investigate-tether-bitfinex-btc-price/

>>11828176
brokers use software to send your orders to exchanges. at the exchange, there is a computer system that keeps tracks of all open limit and market orders. they also keep track of who owns each stock in a database called a ledger. orders. when an order can fill, it executes and the broker tells you that u got stock now nigga

Crude oil got fucked

>>11828364
it's lagging because people are pulling money out of EVERYTHING.

the rich and powerful know of the upcoming collapse of society where everything (including "rare" metals) becomes useless and we are thrown into a state of anarchy with murder in the streets. they are planning to build a vessel to depart earth before this happens, and are pooling all their capital towards this purpose. your best bet is taking your money out and building an nuclear proof underground shelter, and locking yourself away for the next 50 years. it's gonna get rough.

http://thepatternsite.com/HammerInv.html

SPY and QQQ seem to be forming an inverted hammer.
I usually don't like technical analysis and muh tea leaves, but Bulkowski does pretty good stats.

Downtrend is likely to continue.

>>11828415
You mean 4k.

>>11828477
nuttin personel

>>11828460
last hope is another overnight dip

>>11828530
Thanks, my dude.

>>11828546
no ;_;

>>11828491
people just dont use it anymore ;_;
everyone stopped supporting it as method of payment

>>11828496
>Over 2 years of pure shit

Nigga we’re trying to quit our 9-5 jobs here, not retire to Florida at age 55.

>>11828555
I've lost more money before... but this one hurts. I think it's because knowing I lost this trade means the bankers won. Bitcoin is over.

>>11828545
>technical analysis
>on broad market ETF's

>>11828698
why not both?

>>11828341
>t. Has no skin in the game

>bond payments coming in

>>11828341
Fuck China. Also I’m actually green for the day. What do I buy naked puts on tomorrow?

>>11828708
Technically the easiest to trade due to the high volume. I shorted SPY today, feels good.

holy shit ANY
why you never told me about this stock?

>>11828744
Suck my dick, faggot. I'm more invested than half this thread combined, I'm down 20% this year, and I'm still not worried like most of the fags in this thread.

>>11828846
>I'm more invested than half this thread combined
>I'm down 20% this year
nice.

>>11828818
SPYs actually very hard for trade because it has forex tier algos on it, its the cesspool of global risk dumping, and everyone and their mom trades it so very competitive

something simple for trade is TLT

>>11828895
I have literally done nothing but buy puts and spreads on SPY. An 8 year old can trade this.

>>11828414
This but unironically
>>11828484
t. GPRO holder :)
>>11828459
No >:(

>>11828724
Cause my liver is going to give out before 35..

>>11828387
fuck off libtard

>>11828942
Can you post your brokers interface again, I want to see that font, it's so cute

>>11828318
never. they're the worst.

>>11828302
my divs + cap gains get me a yield on cost of 5.6% on investment due to div raises and compounding interest

current yield is only around 3.4%

>>11828387
>2018
>being a leftist c|_|ck

Not. Even. Once.

>>11828995
Not until you buy SQQQ and fix the fucking economy.

Registering for DRIP dividends on TDA was the best thing I've ever done.
Can anyone describe a more comfy experience?

>>11828941
>GPRO holdr
pls kek me have been buying this thing since 4.60

>>11829072
No, that's about as comfy as it gets.

>>11829072
sticking your dick in a vag

>>11829072
actively managing your own div portfolio because not a brainlet

>>11828087
I dont do my own meme lines, but follow about 10 or so people on tradeview that have a good record and then use my judgement to pick a position. Drawing your own adds bias unless u are a true pro.

>>11828885
I haven't sold because I'm not a weak jelly handed pussy like some fucks here.

Could I do better? Sure. But even I know this fake ass bear rally won't last long. It's an exact repeat of 6 months ago. Up, down, up, down, then up to new records.

>>11829072
based and divspilled

>https://pastebin.com/jgA5zTuC
newfag here
what book should i read first?

>>11829072
wut is tda

my drip is in gold miners and its not vry comfy at all

>>11829079
>tech
>margin
>day trading
>ever

>>11829102
t. hillary supporter calls someone a brainlet
RKG please
>>11829086
I would argue beating a girl with a stick is more satisfying
>>11829079
Will they actually have a positive EPS this quarter?

>>11829119
no one on /biz/ reads
the intelligent investor is the best one if you're looking for a practical manual

>>11828534
please take off tinfoil hat, you are completely misinterpreting 'lagging' and fuck off with your agenda to cave

Am I getting the hang of this? I drew these meme lines Friday evening on one day candles. It's fun to see how they sort of hold up even on a one minute chart.

>>11828341
>markets just dont crash suddenly
You must be havin a larf

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>11828846
Why do you come into this thread and tell lies?

how do we proffit from the nasa moon base?

I want the ride to end

The market needs to pick a direction

>>11829199
sideways

I'm fucking done. Sold everything and going all in on SPY puts. Praying for Nuclear hellfire

Ding ding ding! How did everyone do today? I’m down .09%, would have been a fucking disaster but I hit a lil long and short and it went okay. I fucking hate holding SPY, why did I do this? I’m also feeling pretty crazy, TORCHED myself with a massive dose of niacin last night to ward off schizophrenia and depression.

>>11829181
Johnny Johnny

>>11829206
eyyyyyy mah boi. we're both gonna make it.

>>11829190
sell weed to space niggers

Is DB gonna make it?

>>11829212
>chillis poster is struggling with mental health
sorry lad, good luck budders

>>11829206
>weak hands capitulating

based
bull run coming soon

>>11829205
A better direction, up or down

Sideways step function irritating now

>>11829212
Thanks chili man. 3 down days in a row? that sucks, but things'll get better for you. I'm personally up 11.26% today, unless you count bitcoin. Feels good.

>>11829206
>buying puts at the bottom
Silly man

>>11829086
bags of sand are comfy?

>>11829148
thanks

FUD articles everywhere. Faggots capitulating left and right.

Schedule it. Tomorrow.

>>11829212
>How did everyone do today?
NO TEGNO DINERO

OH OH OH OH

>>11829212
sick of these red days
just waiting for the golden bull run

Is it fair to make comparisons of Bitcoin vs. Stocks?

I have very little knowledge of both BTC and the stock market, but I check on Bitcoin occasionally out of curiosity for Crypto.

I see people using quotes, charts, and past cycles of stocks to attempt to describe what Bitcoin goes through.

What are the fundamental differences between them?

>>11829131
This will be finally year where GoPro not fumble holiday sales ;_;

>>11829320
Go ahead. I don't even care anymore.

Cramer is bearish now finally, so I think the market will rally.

>>11829365
the biggest diffrence is that you dont talk about bitcoin in smg
now shoo!

How do you people lose that much?

I'm sitting comfy at -1% since the beginning of the correction. That's why you don't buy growth/tech stocks at the end of the cycle you mongoloids.

>>11829212
Based ADSK came through with earnings

Now if only I had bought it today instead of yesterday...

>>11829346
Not great my man, not that great at all guess I shouldn’t have bought those shitbag oil companies a week ago oops

I hope based Powell dabs on all these faggots and raises rates again. The interest rate should be 9%.

>>11829379
I'm going to buy some on January 30th just to make sure it crashes into the center of the earth

>>11829379
keep dreaming my dude
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpvT-Fciu-4

>>11829415
based and savingspilled

>>11829432
I know gopro doesn't have a woman ceo but
should i short it anyways?

>>11829401
JUST'd by my ETFs. SCHX, SCHK, SCHM, SCHA.

>>11829466
Please short it and post proof

>>11829190
LMT apparently.

>>11829153
indicators>zigzag

>>11829466
One company with a woman CEO that you definitely shouldn't short in the long term is AWK
It's near a 52 week high right now, so you could profit from a temporary pullback at some point in the future, but shorting the largest water company in the US is a full retard move in the long term

>>11829508
borderline gfs are not funny or good to have
I dated two while in highschool and they caused the worst year of my life
Fucking foids should die

>>11829508
>shorting the largest water company in the US is a full retard move in the long term
I'm gonna do it - once my contracts free up here this week.

>>11829529
They really should be avoided at all costs
They are absolutely not worth it in the long term, no matter how good it may feel in the short term

>>11829415
unironically this

>>11829508
>near a 52 week high right now
>shouldn't short

Don't sell high kids, and make sure to stay off drugs, and absolutely don't get your dick wet.

Hey Faggots,

My name is Jerome Powell, and I hate every single one of you. All of you are poor, retarded, no-lifes who spend every second of their day looking at stupid ass charts. You are everything bad in the the economy. Honestly, have any of you ever gotten any dividends? I mean, I guess it's fun making fun of people because of their poverty, but you all take to a whole new level. This is even worse than buying Big 5 at $9.50.

Don't be a stranger. Just hit me with your best shot. I'm pretty much perfect. I am Chair of the Federal Reserve, and hand picked by Trump. What investments do you make, other than "jack off to naked drawn Japanese people"? I also get mad gains, and have a banging hot girlfriend (She just did some technical analysis; Shit was SO cash). You are all faggots who should just kill yourselves. Thanks for listening.

Pic Related: It's me and my dollar

>>11829549
too penisy to short gpro thats what am thought

>>11829592
>It's near a 52 week high right now, so you could profit from a temporary pullback at some point in the future, but shorting the largest water company in the US is a full retard move in the long term

learn how to read my friend

>>11829624
gpro doesn't have a woman ceo, awk does. Sorry, it's just my investment strategy taking priority. Nothing personal.

>>11829615
Hey, it's Jerome Powell, chairman of the Fed Reserve! Say something nice about him!

>>11829626
Water companies are going to go bankrupt when the world runs out of water
Someone pulled the plug on the bottom of the ocean so now it's draining into the hollow earth

>>11829626
Who the fuck shorts long term? You'll get fucked by inflation.

>>11829650
Hey Jerome! Did you watch the sportsball game last night! Oh man, what a killer that one haha. Hey, remember back in highschool coach used to call you Jerome "Plow Town" Powell. Good times, good times.

>>11829556
>>11829508
>>11829529
don't think I would put up with one even in the short term. I've got a track reccord of abandoning people at the drop of a hat. The first "leave me alone / I hate you" would be met with an emotionless "fine fuck off" regardless of how many "I love yous" came before or after.

>>11829669
s-someone does, I'm sure

>>11828496
How are fundamentals good? Maybe consumer spending is on the ups but corporate debt is at all time highs with rates going up?

>>11829615
based

Get rekt faggots, I'm 25% equities now after scooping up more Apple near the lows today. Ill continue buying into this market. If the SP500 drops 70%, I'll be leveraged long in equities (150% or so). I've got buy orders on a host of value stocks I've been tracking for months/years. Will continue to add as the market declines.

My tip to you niggers, be careful of companies with shitty balance sheets. The market doesnt yet realize how quickly and badly fundamentals can turn for many stocks when you have to roll over debt. Most companies are being managed in a way where their debt acts like floating rate debt. That means they only pay interest and expect to roll it over.

Only buy companies with high margins and pricing power if they have substantial debt. Otherwise, they wont be able to pass borrowing costs onto consumers. For example, a company with lots of debt, but pricing power is AT&T. The debt is much safer to creditors because AT&T has a bunch of local monopolies. Tons of areas only have one ISP and they can pass their costs to consumers who will need internet even in a recession.

>>11829615
based & bogpilled.

>>11829615
Hi I'm Jerome Powell and welcome to Jackass!

>>11829693
>I've got a track record of abandoning people at the drop of a hat

I think this is less "I'm an emotionally disconnected badass" and more "I'm too sensitive to handle rejection" than you want to admit
It's not that you don't care about them, it's that you're seeking safety because you feel like you don't have control

>>11829615
>Welcome to your life, there's no turning back, even while we sleep, we will find you acting on your best behavior, turn your back another nature, Powell wants to rule the world.

>>11829774
I'm not trying to present it as a good thing I've lost lots of good friends over the years.
>"I'm too sensitive to handle rejection"
I don't know if that's it exactly but it is 100% a defence mechanism

>>11829814
It's a defense mechanism that would likely serve you well with a girl who has BPD
What does your portfolio look like, btw

Fuck I hope tomorrow’s green like today.

"I have awoken"

>>11829859
-£300
I've pull out all my holdings because I've got irl stuff I need to do instead of watching graphs all day and I don't trust the market enough right now to just leave it in indexes.

>>11829902

Haha like how is debt even real nigga just haha print more money haha.

>>11829902
*raises interest rates*
Psssssh morning personnel kid

I fear something big is coming.

Bitcoin crashing really unsettles me. There is definitely a connection between crypto and stocks crashing this spectacularly at the same time.

>>11829111
Keep telling yourself that fag, see you in the poor house

>>11829911
Orange man doesn't give a fuck about small specs

>>11829932

>>11829993
Fukken saved

>>11829918
>implying raising interest rates isn't a necessary evil that will be beneficial in the long term

>>11830018
save this one too : >>11829918

>>11829922
t. USA (but unironically)

>>11830024
>implying I disagree with what emperor Trump and uncle Powell are trying to achieve

RAAAAAAAAAARG

oh, sorry about that

>mfw Biotech has become the new safe haven in bear markets

*raises rates again*

>>11829365
They really aren't that similar. The only similarity is that people use both to try to make money speculating about their value.

>>11830138
That would be fucking amazing if it was the case
Biotechs, utilities, and consumer staples are the ultimate comfy portfolio

>>11829723
credit spreads are still low and stable, companies have more cash now too

stock market will likely trade sideways-ish until 5G is deployed and a new era of growth ejaculates with the power of 1000 suns out of the US tech sector, raising the economy and all boats with it.

It's all over, boys. The Illuminati are gonna do it just to spite orange man

>>11830197
>orange man isn’t an Illuminati plant

Thanks to /smg/ and /smg/ alone I unironically like monster zero now

>>11829615

>>11830258
Same here

They still think this is because of rising interest rates. Don't you understand that now that the Democrats have taken control of Congress the whole pendulum's amplitude has reached and the cycle is beginning to swing back the other direction. This is completely normal and natural, but you stupid fucks are too busy with your head up your ass to actually look and see what is right fucking in front of you. The fucking market has reached the apex of this cycle, get the fuck out and set your SPY buy orders for sub $200. If you want some shit that's going to actually make you some money buy some silver. I know some of you won't listen to me, but that's ok just post funny wojacks for me and make me laugh.

>>11830258
it's actually really good

>>11829937
Equities are barely in correction.

>>11830350
nah, its because investors realized globalism isnt ready yet

>>11829615

Good show, anon.

>>11830237
explain

>>11830258
Started drinking it this year. I was missing out.

>>11829937
BTC is an asset class that gets pumped when everything else is mooning (remember the bull run of 2017)
When everything tanks and big bois get margin called, BTC tanks too

Also, BTC's usefulness resides in its ease and safety to transfer wealth out of a country with capital control (like China)

Am I the only person under the age of 30 to never have a single sip of Monster ever?

>>11829937
Lol this is a dumb post.
There is no connection between crypto and stocks. Institutional investors, who are largely responsible for most of the movement on the stock market, don't pay attention to crypto, and I highly doubt that crypto folks pay too much attention to the markets except when crypto goes up and the market goes down.

>>11830350
Don't really think this was because of the Democrats, the market was seeing lots of volatility and had already dropped negative YTD before the election a few times. That being said, I agree that we're probably near the peak of the cycle and are in for some contraction, both stock-wise and economy-wise (the latter possibly driving the former to some extent).

Another sucky day. Amazon is in a bidding war to buy Fox Sports channels which was the only bright spot today. (I own Fox and Amazon shares).
Everything is just spiraling down the drain so it goes without saying; buy the dip. Ironically I can't cause funding is tight at the moment. But oh well, may take a while but things will recover, be like this never took place.

>>11830464
You don’t belong here.

>>11830464
>zoomers
don't you have home work to do are a game of fortnight to play or something?

>>11830474
I've always been the outsider. Purposely shunning whatever's popular. I'm okay with this.

>>11830484
>Fortnight
Another thing I absolutely detest with every fiber of my being.

QLD AND SSO BUY THIS DIP PAPIS

EESKETIT EESKETIT GAINS GAINS GAINS

>>11830464
me have no either
but mainly just because have adderrall

>>11830350

The current crash started in October, before the elections. If we're being honest, the market has been volatile since the end of January. I think the connection between the market and politics (of any kind) is really shaky at best.

Calling gap down to double bottom at 2600 on the S&P tomorrow, then some struggle resulting in volatility a bit above that to see what kind if trend we're headed for in coming months.

I continue to maintain that these troubles do not have enough economic basis for move to for realsies recession. There is too much money willing and available to buy the lows.

>>11830467
You're going to see a contraction in the US GDP, then what? Huh? THEN WHAT!

>>11828708
Yeah, I don't typically like technical analysis either.

>>11830536
Wh? I don't think you and I are disagreeing here unless you don't think the economy might contract.

>>11830556
We're definitely maybe in a bear market?

>>11830350
>sub $200 SPY

Nope. If the double bottom breaks bearish i think a low of $220 is more realistic. That is the bottom line of the rising channel prior to 2016 sharper upwards thrust. This would still be a recession but not doomsday. You are projecting doomsday.

>>11830575
Yeah I could definitely see that. Obviously by technical definition we aren't quite there now but I wouldn't be surprised if we entered one.

>>11830585
We shouldn’t push below 245.

over / under on breaking 300 by EOY?

>>11830639
>We shouldn’t push below 185.
ftfy

>>11828105
Fix'd

>>11829508
>borderline gf
>Saved
I don't understand all the "I'm a virgin" stuff. Is it a lie or do refuse to put out?

>>11829529
>they caused the worst year of my life
How?

>>11829556
How does it feel good in the short term? Good sex due to crazy?

This is really interesting to me.
I don't understand all the "I'm a virgin" stuff.

>>11830656
Bullish

CAN WE ALL AGREED THAT ORANGE MAN VERY BAD MAN!?

20yo boomer here. I'm the only one my age that has actually invested in the stock market. What went wrong?

>>11830730
you made friends with poorfag degenerates

>>11830516
>market booms after election day
>Iran and Saudi spats
>petrol and gas markets fluctuate wildly

yeah, sure thing. this isn't political.
go read some fucking dalio you dolt.

>>11830724
>>>/leftypol/

You guys better be buying Nissan Group stocks.

t. a hue

>>11830815
why, mr hue?

>>11830836
The hue who fixed the group's finantial situation years ago rose and did another extraordinary things rose to power and became the group's council president. He was caught avoiding tax few days ago and is expected to be dethroned in the next days.

The situation got so bad that the stocks fell so hard that it destroyed all the gains the investors had this year.

These stocks will no doubt rise again to previous highs so they are a good candidate for buying and holding.

Spy is even falling in after markets kek. Too bad I can't buy more options.

>Nissan chairman Ghosn has been arrested: Yomiuri
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-nissan-ghosn-arrest/nissan-chairman-ghosn-has-been-arrested-yomiuri-idUSKCN1NO119

>Renault: remains focused on alliance with Nissan and Mitsubishi
https://www.reuters.com/article/nissan-ghosn-renault-governance/renault-remains-focused-on-alliance-with-nissan-and-mitsubishi-idUSP6N1X301T

>France's Macron vows to maintain Renault-Nissan stability
https://www.reuters.com/article/nissan-ghosn-macron/frances-macron-vows-to-maintain-renault-nissan-stability-idUSP6N1X301O

>>11830661
thank you sir.

>>11828105

I'm new to trading and saw that ge seems insanely low, they're so entrenched that I have to imagine it is bound to go up right?

I'm still learning a ton but I figure I might as well buy ge cause, from an admittedly uneducated viewpoint, it looks like a no brainer.

is there something I'm missing here or is it actually as good a time to buy as it seems?

>>11830730
>I'm the only one my age that has actually invested in the stock market.

You aren't
I'm the same age as you, and most tripfags in this thread seem to be in their early-mid 20s

>>11831048
Let me ask you one simple question: Why would you want a stake in a failing company?

>>11831048
>it is bound to go up right
y-yeah hahaha

>>11830679
>Good sex due to crazy

They're fucking obsessed with you at first and will shape their entire identities around your preference
Also, they are usually pretty good at sex

well the last two months have been rough boys. All the tasty gains gone.

I just want the mega crash to happen so I can get in again

>>11831048
GE is one of those companies you buy on the uptrend. Don't touch it until it's confirmed to be breaking out of its long term downtrend.

Also ignore retarded posters who think it's going to zero. I don't know what the share price will be but GE will still be around after they've all died.

>>11831082
>They're fucking obsessed with you at first and will shape their entire identities around your preference
This sounds consistent with what I've seen
>at first
Does this change? They get spiteful when they can't get enough attention, right?

>Also, they are usually pretty good at sex
So the "I'm a virgin" stuff is a common lie that they like to say?

>>11831096
>fed lowers interest rates
>trade war ends
>short sellers utterly obliterated

>>11831191
can we at least wait until december before that happens?

$1000 a month I have to invest for a 15 - 20 year time horizon when i want to retire, what do i buy

i ehard i buy index funds and eventually sell them and buy dividend yielding companies, then live off of the dividends alone? are those taxes when i take them out of my brokerage accounts?

>>11831223
embrace the boglepill
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Three-fund_portfolio

>>11830925
>buying stock of a company that makes the worst automatic transmissions on the market

yikes

>>11828352

do what the other guy said, just buy regular every month, dont stop buying just because it looks bad. since you might get them cheaper. this is also healthy for the markets

>>11831223
You want an IRA by the sounds of it.

>>11831234
>buying stock of a company that was the number 1 in sales of light vehicles last year and reported a 6% increase in sales so far this year
yes

>>11831048
I'd wait till it hit least $5 before buying. The potential upside is thus:

Spinoffs; you'd be getting shares in any Spinoffs GE does. I know of 4 that is planned right now.
These spinoffs have the potential to be bought or turn a profit on there own.

GE itself; may turn itself around and start raking in the profits or it may be bought outright due to the brand name.
It may not be a bad idea to bag some BHGE shares as well. Yes GE owns them and you'd therefore own B.H if you buy GE but GE has sold part of there ownership stake so once that's done GE will only own like %51 of B.H. Still a controlling interest but a much smaller one. (62.3 % now)

>QE unwind isn't even done yet

>>11830525
I neglected to mention, there is a second potential double bottom at $2532. That's February's low. I will continue buying lows up I see either of those support levels break. Probably scale back longs and buy hedging puts if the 2600 goes, liquidate and go short if the 2532 breaks.

This isn't panic territory just yet. Stuff has to happen to confirm. If the February support breaks it'll be potentially worse than 2008. I think this scenario is very unlikely without a BIG catalyst.

>>11831270
You should warn him of the potential downside too: GE bankrupts; $0 end of year.

>>11831266
yikes

btw only niggers and spics buy nissans cuz theyre "cheap" but have lots of bells and whistles inside

>>11831303
>btw only niggers and spics buy nissans cuz theyre "cheap" but have lots of bells and whistles inside
They could be selling cars to >>/d/ for what I care.

>>11831191
No chance in hell. Best case, they don't raise in December and maybe trim back to 2 hikes for 2019.

>>11831338
Shh...I want to believe in my fantasy.

>>11831253
can you do both a ROTH IRA and a normal IRA every year?
I know ROTH is superior but there is a small limit on it annually, can i then put everything else i have to invest in a 'normal' IRA every year? can i make moves with what i buy in IRAs or do i have to hold until retirement age?

I currently have money on Robinhood, is that considered a defacto IRA or something else?

>>11831377
>can you do both?
yes and you should
>can i make moves with what i buy or do i have to hold until retirement
yes you can make plays, and you should. Like, 3 times a year.
>Is that considered a defacto IRA?
lol no. that's taxable income boi, pay up for uncle sam.

>>11831377
Yes
Yes
Yes
Also Yes
GIANT NO

>>11831377
you can contribute to both, but the limit between them is shared
>I currently have money on Robinhood, is that considered a defacto IRA or something else?
no, iras are tax advantaged but restrictive on when you can remove money from them

>>11831365
Fed is not going to lower rates unless a recession happens. They may decrease the frequency and perhaps size of hikes but ain't no way no how those rates are going down unless shit gets dire.

why is crypto and tech dying together?

Is sugar water makers really going to be the future?

>>11831185
avoid borderline it's not worth it

The personality is pure cancer. You will hate them and they aren't generally that hot.

>>11831553
So basically borderline is an unstable personality with no capability to cope or manage other's views on them. If you treat them like shit odds are they become more attracted and if you treat them nice they will treat you like shit.

Even if you wanted an insecure GF you can abuse, borderline isn't that type. It's an unstable type that can't be managed. They should be avoided at all costs.

QQQ open low ask fuck tomorrow?

>>11831191
>lowers rates
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

>>11831632
qqq limbo champion. Gracefully touches $0.01 while still being a positive valuation.

>>11831642
>>11831466
>tfw snapped back to reality

>mfw boeing
my hedge against us-china war is falling apart

wow this graph looks awfully similar

>>11828941
>cirno posting in the year of our lord 1929+89
>>11828459
this
there's just something so satisfying about killing an anime girl. it just... clears the mind and opens the heart and makes my wallet feel a little heavier.

>>11831048
I have no idea why but experts with price targets have been freaking dead on close last 3 months, people would laugh at them because they were pessimistic but not laughing now.

>>11831532
Coke with weed (CBD) would probably be an 80 dollar stock, also looking for some undervalued restaurants would be good potential

I can't wait for all the scam coins to die. BTC needs to be only one left before the next rally.

crypto getting killed makes the market being shit okay with me.

>>11831675
>oh, there goes gravity

>>11831712
>oh, he's so mad that he choked

>>11831703
>Coke with weed would probably be an 80 dollar stock
mmmm now that's some positive valuation. Buffet-sama would definitely approve.

Really though the key to having loads of Cash when you retire is to start early as possible. Then every pay check transfer X amount into 401k/savings/brokerage accounts automatically. That way you never miss it and you can focus on other shit. That's what I did; when I started at my current job in 2005 I got into the company 401k plan + reg pension . Every check X amount goes into it. Then I told my bank to auto trans X amount into my savings each month. I just now started my brokerage account about 1 month ago but I do it the same; each month X goes into it.

>>11829407
based bible app

>>11831692
eternal bull run confirmed

But why are you in stocks when btc just hit 50k last week?

>>11831837
Other thing is to keep your debt level as low as you can get it and do everything possible to wipe that out before you retire. The only debt I have is 1,200 on a credit card (which will be paid off early next year) and my house. House will be paid off by the time I retire. Then make a budget for the year and stick to it. If it ain't planned for in your budget, then you can do without it.

>>11829754
What do you mean by being leveraged in equities?

>>11829407
BASED bible poster

>>11829407
BASED BIBLE THUMP BUMP

"What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun." - Ecclesiastes 1:9

>>11828063
Best Australian broker?

>>11832072
I'll do it for you bud, just send me your money and what you want to invest it in

cobalt and lithium still well off highs

wonder if they could drop more in 2019

>>11831837
>>11831927
BTW: My yearly salary is just under 27k a year. My current net worth is 38k (savings + 401k), 4k in brokerage. Pension I've no clue but from 2005 till now I'd say it's a big pile on its own. Assuming my savings and 401k doubles + Tax refunds each year, by the time I retire (15 yrs) I'll have 80k at minimum in those two alone. No debt either. Brokerage, tough to say, 15 yrs is a long time, realistic is 7% return over time though.

>>11831553
>avoid borderline it's not worth it
Yeah, I'm trying to sell myself on this idea.

>The personality is pure cancer. You will hate them and they aren't generally that hot.
You're right. She wasn't that hot, but she did that thing where she shapes her life to have the same fucking interests as me. So, she seemed cool asf.
I don't know how to feel about it.

>>11831598
>So basically borderline is an unstable personality with no capability to cope or manage other's views on them.
That's what I'm gathering so far.
>If you treat them like shit odds are they become more attracted and if you treat them nice they will treat you like shit.
This is a key part that I was trying to figure out. I was trying to figure out how to game this, but it doesn't seem to work that well in practice.
>Even if you wanted an insecure GF you can abuse, borderline isn't that type. It's an unstable type that can't be managed. They should be avoided at all costs.
And you seem to agree with this.
It's just so fucking interesting. They are quite the fucking hook and bait.

They seem like the type that get off to hearing stuff like "oh yeah? I bet you'd like that, you piece of shit."

Green day ahead; load up calls

>>11832240
It's not that they get off on it. It's basically a stunted personality. Like a 5 year old mentality in an adult brain. At some point they never matured any coping mechanism. Meaning they got abused or had some fucked up parenting while young like overbearing mother that was batshit. They can't form any consistency.

Sort of like narcissism personality. It's ingrained in their brain and they can't really fix it.

It's not like say a submissive personality or anything like that. It's just a completely broken brain.

>Nintendo still can't rebound
GOD FUCKING DAMMIT

Stock market is kill anon

>>11832214
Ok, rough estimate. Figured combined 401 + Savings + Brokerage my final net worth in 15 years will be close to $330,000. This is not including my Pension or any pay bumps I may get. This also doesn't include any individual stocks in my portfolio. Again, I won't have any debts to pay off either. All in all not a bad haul to "retire" on.

Who else /liquidated/ to cash before the Second Great Recession?

>>11832296
They seem to really desire attention
>notice me, senpai

I've seen a few things online about how they have a feeling of "emptiness" that can't be filled.
That's why I was thinking that they're the type for "Oh yeah? I bet you'd like that, you piece of shit" -- maybe not that they'd get off to it, but it seems like it plays into their emptiness like how a donkey follows a carrot on a stick that they'll never be able to reach.

I want to find out how to get the rat on the wheel and how to get them chasing that fucking carrot.

>>11832492
Me
It's about to crash completely
At least in the USA desu
and world markets typically follow USA
might be a good time to short but I don't short

>>11832492
Make sure you have a good place to keep it or they will come for it when they institute capital controls in drumpf land

>>11832492
we going full depression

>>11832512
you're the rat on the wheel trying to please them

>>11828063
After you read all that, you should know that no one knows anything, and you can't beat SPY.

>>11832701
yet here you are

can nothing I do go unJUSTed

>>11832689
>you're the rat on the wheel trying to please them
Fuck. You're right.

I'm thankfully moving away anyways, but I'm going to see if there's any blog posts on manipulating people with BPD. There's probably a fuck ton on manipulating people with low self-esteem that'd probably be pretty solid

Nintendo seems like a surefire bet. smash coming out and it's always a tip seller for their consoles, next year packed with games and the launch of their online service.

barring some huge meltdown or pr disaster I can't see next year being bad for them.anything I'm missing here or does it seem this cut and dry to anyone else?

>>11831270
how would spinoffs work using a broker like RH? do they just add the stock for the spin-off to your portfolio? can't imagine they make it that easy

>>11832512
doesn't really work that way

It's more about instability. Like rolling a dice how they feel one day. They will get gangbanged by strangers on friday then beg how much they love you saturday.

It's not the type you are looking for if you want someone to take advantage of for any length of time.

>>11832492
lol dumb ass. Recession will hit the rest of the world but not USA

So is now a bad time to get into trading then?

>>11832885
Better now then at the top. I'd wait a few more weeks to see if the downtrend continues, but if you feel like taking a risk now is a better time to buy undervalued stocks then any.

>>11832885
Best time to short fucko.

>>11832804
Once the companies are listed they'd just show up with the amount of shares you owned just like any other stock.

>>11832177
>cobalt and lithium still well off highs
>wonder if they could drop more in 2019

Yep. Speculative money is gone, prices way down, electric vehicle hype isn't as hot as it was in early 2017.

>>11832994
Isn't it not all that rare. Battery makers can spend more to replace cobalt with alternatives that keeps price in check. With lithium just being not all that scarce too,.

I hate the housing market so much.

>housing sales slowing and going down
>house prices still going up
>house building goes down

It's the most fucking rigged market on earth.

>>11833056
What I mean is they could build houses priced to sell and keep the economy kinda going but don't. Instead the whole market seizes up to rip society off.

Wasn't google supposed to take on realtors at some point in time? Fucking bullshit that no one has destroyed the real estate market.

ARCOLOGY PROJECT WHEN?

>>11832923
>>11832938
Was more of a joke question than anything. Was unironically planning to get into swing trading this January with money I get from Christmas.

>>11833056
Depending on the builder, a lot of new houses are built like shit. Throw them up fast; 5 yrs later the poor cuck homeowner is pouring thousands into fixing all the "little" shit that the builder should've done the first go round.

Baking fuck bulls edition.

>>11832874
https://www.bridgestorecovery.com/blog/understanding-bpd-emotional-manipulation-techniques-and-how-treatment-can-help/
>A person with BPD could function, when symptomatic, only in the world where everybody loves her like her own mother, unconditionally and patiently. Of course such a world will never exist and thus BPDs with their enormous, unfulfilled needs of love and affection will forever remain frustrated and angry, and resort to behaviors which are misunderstood as ‘manipulation.’
>In other words, what is perceived as manipulation is, in fact, a desperate attempt to cope with the overwhelming fears of abandonment and rejection that sit at the heart of borderline personality disorder.
I think this link really helped with understanding it more.

>>11833501
just avoid anyone who has it unless it's casual sex and you can cut them off easy

That 8-10% suicide rate is real.

Someone make a new thread before we 404

I'm naturally too lazy to do it myself

racist korean OP

>>11833611
>>11833611
>>11833611