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>work in marketing for a huge global law firm
>first good job after graduating
>don't work in their main office, work in one of their smaller offices where we can be (a lot) paid less
>job is very good, but talk around the place (my specific office) is that wage increases and promotions are very hard to come by/non-existent unless you're one of the top-tier management
>heard some guy got a promotion and his pay increase was only 22% and he's still on less money than the IT support guys started on

Is my only move here to do a year and simply get the fuck out? Any other options?

>> No.11696604

stfu u stupid incel f*ggot

>> No.11696610

@11696604
cringe

>> No.11696618

>>11696598
The days of staying with a company for 30 years are gone. Nobody does that anymore. The normal way of doing things nowadays is to switch jobs every 3-5 years and each time demand 10-15k more than your last job, its pretty much the only way of getting paid more.
You say this is a well known global law firm, after 1 or 1.5 years I'd start looking for a new job using this to pad your resume.

>> No.11697429

>>11696618
What would be the advantage of staying 1.5 years over 1 year?

>> No.11697465

>>11697429
you dont quit a job then start looking for another one, you look while you're still working.

>> No.11697479

>>11696610
hello, newfag

>> No.11697493

>>11696610
You are banned from posting for 2 month
Reason:lurk more

>> No.11697509

Test

>> No.11697513

>>11696618
Not necessarily true if you join a smaller organisation and become difficult to replace. I've gone from £17k/year -> £75k/year over a 5 year period.

Don't expect this if you're doing meme work though. You have to be a top performer in a skilled role.

>> No.11697523

>>11696610
don't @, normie.

Anyway, you stick around for more than 1 year because generally (but it does depend) you will receive additional benefits/security after staying for >1 year. Check your employment contract, if you have one. Local laws if not. Another benefit is the more they have trained you and the more experience you have at the current spot, the more valuable you are to keep around. You can use this to negotiate a hike after you've gotten a new job offer for somewhere else. May not work in your context, depends on the size of the marketing department.
Rather than believing someone at the office, check glassdoor or whatever local equivalent job promotion site to see what they say about your company, and also check it for other similar companies and see what they pay. This can also be useful in wage raise negotiations.

>> No.11697560

>>11697429
I worded it in such a way to imply stay for a year, after 1 year begin looking for another job so that by 1.5 years you're already set up to be out the door and the very next day start your new job

>>11697513
Sounds like op is fresh out of school with hardly any experience at a huge firm, just another cog in their machine. He is the very definition of expendable

>> No.11697565

>>11697429
If you move too frequently it becomes a black mark on your resume. I don’t hire anyone who doesn’t have an average tenure above 2 years.

>> No.11697609

>>11697565
K, I unironically don't want to work at places like that because my personal (anecdotal) experience has shown those places are full of complacent boomers whom I could unironically script out of their jobs.

>> No.11697652

>>11697609
It happens everywhere. If you move jobs too often people think you're unreliable and can't hold down a job. It looks bad because they assume you keep getting laid off

>> No.11697700

>>11697652
I understand. I have stayed several years at companies I like. But I am saying that companies that get wrapped up about tenures are red flags for me as companies that I would get bored at and not stay at long. That is the reason for which I have a few short tenures on my resume.

>> No.11697813

>>11696598
bruh everyone hops jobs it's how you move up these days

>> No.11697843
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>>11696610
Lurk moar.

>> No.11697859

>>11697465
No shit, what's stopping me looking for a new job in the month or two before my 1 year rolls around?

>>11697565
Is it really a black mark if I'm already hired elsewhere?

>> No.11697866

>>11696610
Get a load of this newfag, go back to twitter faggot or lurk for at least 3 more years.

>> No.11697888

>>11697523
>depends on the size of the marketing department
The team I'm part of is 7 people including myself, I'm the only one in the crappy office, but I'm also obviously much younger and less experienced.

>>11697523
>Rather than believing someone at the office
The kind of work I do means I've seen how much many of the people are being paid where I work (not their names and how much specifically but the roles and what they cost per hour), everyone but management (don't have access to that info as I don't have any reason to work with it) is on the same money as me.

>> No.11698002

>>11696598
Well bro, try to stay atleast 1 year. If there is no chance for promotion or your pay doesnt increase you are in a deadend.

If you dont stay they will label you as jobhopper. Thats their logic. They just couldnt assiciate that some work could be the toxic living hell.
For exemple, no money, stressfull, no chance for raise and promotion also you cant extend your knowledge.

>> No.11698029

>>11696598
>Is my only move here to do a year and simply get the fuck out?
Yes. That is what everyone does.

>> No.11698266
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>>11696598
BIG PASTY MILKERS

>> No.11698283

>>11696598
>Quit
>create a shit ton of scam accusations in forums and redit
>Shit on the carpet
>Firebomb the office
>dox the ceo and spread rumors about him being into pedophilia
>collect welfare

>> No.11698323

>>11696598
Please don't post softcore porn, this is a blue board and I'm on no fap regimen.

>> No.11698342

>>11698323
Wow, that's sad. What's wrong with you?

>> No.11699293

>>11698283
What if the office is tiled?

>> No.11699575

>>11699293
then do as follows:
> shit on the tiles
> shit on the boss
> dont shit in the toilet
> dab on boss
> dab on everyone
> declare independence
> dab on president
> you win

>> No.11699670

>in first job out of law school
> it’s 1 year term job clerking
> ok pay great benefits
> best part is that I can go and demand like 20-30k more after this job.

>> No.11700573

>>11696598
TOP MILKIES

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>>11696610

>> No.11700862

>>11696598
Reported for sexist image.

>> No.11700895

>>11696618

Exactly this. There are a few long term career companies left, like UPS for example. But overall loyalty in business is almost dead. I've seen guys who were with a company for 20 years get fired cause they could bring in someone new and pay them 20% less.

Bottom line, if you are underpaid or poorly treated you should ALWAYS be looking at other jobs.

>> No.11701247

About to start my job hunt after being with my first out of college job for a few years. So excited to escape this shithole.

>> No.11702327

>>11697565
This. I think your minimum needs to be 2 years. Hop around too much after a year and you'll stop getting new jobs. Hiring is a pain in the ass, and training KS expensive, and employers don't want to have to do it again in a year.

>> No.11702368

>>11702327
you absolutely need to get at least one 2+ year job on your resume - big mistake a lot of young people make now is jumping around every year. it absolutely makes you unreliable and suggests that as soon as you really know your way around the job and hit your stride you'll be out the door.

A few shorter gigs on a resume are absolutely fine but only if you have proven that you can stick somewhere. if you have a good situation where you like the people, day to day work, commute, office, pay, whatever, stick around a few years until you need bigger challenges and more money. if you're under 30 nobody takes you serious in a role of responsibility anyway. 25 year olds in "management" have meme jobs.

>> No.11702433

>>11702368
So I should stick with my job for two years even if the pay is shit and that wont change? Even if I get a offer elsewhere paying 30%+? I can totally see the point of not jumping ship before one year, but staying when you can do better elsewhere after a year seems odd.

I like my job a lot but there's simply no monetary incentive to stay.

>> No.11702499

>>11702433
In your case I would probably jump ship before the 2 year mark, but at this new job stay 3-5 years

>> No.11702603

>>11702499
How much do you think having this company on my resume actually matters? Like would it be a bad move to jump ship to a decent amount more money if the company is a bunch of nobodies? Do I wait it out til I can get a job with a good company that also will provide more cash?