/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>11634606
>Yuri

disgusting

GPRO AHHHHHH

Give it to me straight, /smg/.

How bad is Monday going to be?

Does anybody ever talk about forex on this board?

>>11634617
Time to dust off those kneepads.

>>11634622
green

>>11634614
no its not
any male mc in romantic anime/manga/ln/vn are either a. too much of an emotional faggot or b. le edgy non-feeling douche
yuri is way more palatable than is male x female romance
yaoi is cute though

>>11634622
amd is looking mighty fine with their plans for the 6th
>>11634623
start talking, fag

>>11634622
-10%

>>11634622
if you're FAANG your FUUCKED

>>11634622
FAANG is probably going to have a bad Monday, but I don't think the market as a whole will be too negatively impacted by it

>>11634634
The main reason I don't like yuri is because it reminds me of one lesbian I used to know who had BPD and pisses me off by association
I don't really have any problem with it as a genre

>>11634617
>tech

not the sector for me, fampai

Start deep red into reversal when the PPT steps in.

>>11634606
wtf I'm gay now

nikkei is hours away to death

>>11634622
Brexit deal had a breakthrough today. Green as fuck confirmed.

>>11634738
I do not believe that until I see Barnier or Junker confirm it, because the amount of fake leaks/news of UK origins has been absurd.

>>11634738
really what was it?

>there are people who actually believe FAANG isn't massively overvalued

Thoughts on the election?
>Democrats win -> Bear market starts now. NQ hits 6k within a week.
>Republicans win -> Bull market continues until at least Q1 2019 with new highs
>Split -> ????
I'm thinking slower bull but not sure.

>>11634606
All fags will hang on the day of the rope

How much money do I need to get a qt trap gf?

>>11634765
>muh rope day

lmaoing at your impotent /pol/ rage

>>11634752
>Theresa May has reportedly secured concessions from Brussels to keep the whole of the UK in a customs union in the wake of Britain’s withdrawal from the European Union.

>Reaching an agreement would prevent the need for Northern Ireland to be treated differently from the rest of the UK, a main stumbling block during Brexit negotiations.

>>11634755
Democrat House + Republican Senate = things, from legislative and House-reliant policy stay as they are now, as the legislation/Congress-reliant policy grinds to a gridlock.

So no new Tax Cuts.

>>11634755
Things will still be bullish if there's an even split, it just means that it will be a pain getting new legislation through, etc.

>>11634779
what's the source

>>11634765
you keep saying that but i dont think you really mean it

>>11634815
Television news but I live in Germany. If you're not in Europe your media might not report it yet.

>>11634622

Gonna be a slightly green day maybe indexes up 0.10 percent or so, people aren't gonna panic buy or sell till Wednesday when they see the results of the election. Blue wave will induce panic selling, red wave will keep the bull market going.

>>11634625
;_; me lost mine

>>11634614
the only pure sexual desire am human dismemberment

>>11634832
I'm in the uk

>>11634622
red day

>>11634851
I'm sorry to hear that. I hope you're safe.

>>11634845
Reminds me of a doujin where a mom and her young daughters drugged a couple high school girls to keep them as livestock and then butchered them.

>>11634859

>>11634845
murder is truly the purest form of human love

just got off the phone with Monsieur Bogandoff, he sais this dip is a bear trap and we should go all in on FAANG

Are LCI and AMRN still buys? I'm kinda hesitant, afraid the gain might be over for them.

>>11634755
>88% of the time the day after elections is a green day
>market typically does excellently during gridlock sessions

I expect it slight green regardless of the outcome.

>>11634622
It'll be fine. Anyone who wanted to go all cash before the election has already done so.

At what point will the double dividend tax go away? It's basically theft as is. I feel like Trump would reform that shit, but I've never read anything about it.

>>11635374
Probably the same time that they lift PDT rules

>>11634614
you gotta step up your meme game

I wanna be resurrected as a cute lesbian

>>11635517
>wanting to be weaker, more neurotic, and have a period

>>11635539
yes

>shorts the housing market

>>11635517
just identify as a woman and berate any lesbian who won't suck your boyclit

>>11635633
this basically, castrate yourself if you want to be really authentic

NEM > ABX

i got 300 on robinhood. should i sort atvi? PLEASE tell me what to do, need to make a play tomorrow before midterms and yes GOP will be winning

>>11635739
why would you short them they just anounced a massive cash cow?

>>11635762
ok well that was a stupid idea then. wtf should i do? fxi calls?

>>11635780
VTI

>>11635861
target? expiry? or just the stock?

>>11635739
You'd be better off buying 8 shares of SPYD with only $300. That's just my opinion, though.
Without margin and I'm not sure how difficult it is to borrow atvi, you won't have much profit on $300 for the risk involved.

>>11635874
i just want to multiply my 300 by a factor of 10. is that so much to ask? need some risky play

>>11635898

>>11635870
careful, whole stock market might be rolling over heading for a 1 year bear market..

>>11635739
>GOP will be winning
>>11635898
Go all in on the highest leveraged etf you can find

>>11635909
The current narrative is that the Senate will stay red, house will turn blue

>>11635898
Yeah, that is so much to ask.
If you're asking /smg/ what to do with $300 you should probably go with the safer bet of a market index until you've spent a few hundred hours studying how to play this game.
Otherwise the market will relentlessly rend your asshole.

Hi Im Momiji! Cant wait for the Rally this week! Green Day Green Week!

>>11635627
why?

>>11636026
hi momiji

we /november/ now

>>11636032
because they all got to pop sometime, especially right now

if they dont middle class will end up meaning permanent renters, not indebted homeowners

many US housing markets dont need a pop, but many international ones do

>>11636057
>>11636063
How long until GALT results come in?

>>11636072
This chart needs to be adjusted for inflation to be useful

>>11636076
cancer data already came, and it was good, but the market is retarded and didn't react appropriately

http://investor.galectintherapeutics.com/news-releases/news-release-details/galectin-therapeutics-inc-announces-positive-preliminary-results

There's a decent chance of a buyout by EOY, as well as various other catalysts coming up

>>11635539
>not wanting the increased majick potential and reagent that comes with menstra

>>11634623
Rarely, we're a bit too stupid I think, but if never hurts to start

>>11636139
>reagent

I suppose using your period blood to perform various chemical reactions would be a plus

>>11636139
What happened to her face? Did the prince use her face as his ashtray?

>>11635906
Woke

>>11636085
pricing index means it already is adjusted for inflation

Anyone in TTNP?

>>11636178
She lied one time too much.

>>11636234
The price of the m2 stayed constant because we could expand and live outside of the city thanks to transport. Now that that expansion is done, the price of m2 can only go up.

>>11636268
Of course taking into account the temporary bubbles. But we will never see the 100 level in your chart ever again

>>11636085
It does, but it's still insane, they look fucking exponential rn

>>11632913
>>11632922
>>11632929
>>11632994
>>11630193
heres a old decent credit-bread screencaps
search the archives at the date for more

also anything above 750 credit score is worthless, since thats all you need for any major loan

>>11634623
there used to be a massive alaskan autistic forex whale here a couple years ago
I think there is sometimes a forex- general still, but it dies out allot

>>11636268
im not the one who wrote on that image (random google search result) but i do know many foreign cities are in bubbles that dwarf 2008 levels

im not saying they must dramatically crash, but they need to start to come down soon or black swan event may happen to "fix" the housing bubble (vancouver, toronto, london, sydney/mellborn, auckland, hongkong...)

>>11636237
>anyone in ttnp?
Sadly yes, just gambling, bought at 0,6 feels fucking bad man. I was prepared to lose that moderate amount of money anyway

>>11634634
>no its not
>any male mc in romantic anime/manga/ln/vn are either a. too much of an emotional faggot or b. le edgy non-feeling douche
>yuri is way more palatable than is male x female romance
This.
>yaoi is cute though
Not this.

>>11636322
I agree then

>>11636108
Fugg, that's biopharma >:(
>>11636139
Aren't you FtM anyway

>>11636294
>>11636234
Oh! You guys are right. That's crazy
Rip New Zealand

hey guys is 2000 enough to get a good foundation of stocks?

been wage slaveing the last year and had to spend 10k for a surgery but still got about 2.5kish left over

20 years old, both my parents are dead so living at mom and dad's isn't an option

>>11636398
Keep some savings. 2/3th of your total net in savings. If you don't have alot I would just put like 500 or whatever you can miss in a index fund monthly.

>>11636398
Don't gamble away what little you have left.

>>11636350
yea US housing market recovered already overall, unless your in midwest (you can buy houses for 4 figures on Ebay in my state lol)
and sanfransisco's prices are nothing compared to major cities in former UK colonies (and london)

id what they are going to do, since they are such small countries that foreigners have kept on inflating their bubbles since 2008 with nothing to stop them

>>11636364
watching london implode will be funny to watch, but its a shame Australia/canada/newzealand are even worse off right now, and their governments appear to be unwilling/unable to fix the problem

even if US survives the next housing bubble pop, the (first)world is going to have a nasty drop sometime within the next decade

the low population countries that only have 2-3 big cities are the ones who are going to be fucked next time around (which will of course effect the world, but not by nearly as much)

>>11636398
keep some money in the bank, but yes even $100 is enough to get started with as long as youre patient

saving and investing is a marathon, not a sprint

>>11634652
>>11634753

This and only this, plus Facebook has more bad news to weigh everyone down

>>11636057
What website is this

>>11636486
My state is experiencing a housing bubble right now, with all the Californians coming in is driving housing prices through the roof. Farmers are starting to sell their farm land because they can make 15 years profit in a month by sub dividing it.
Internationally, the Chinese are the Californians of the world

>>11636556
robinhood.com

>>11636398
You have no safety net so that's what you need first. Save up six months worth of salary so you don't immediately starve in case you lose your job. You don't want to panic over bills while looking for a new gig. Then a few thousand extra as an emergency fund to cover expenses for accidents.

It sounds like a lot but you're extremely young. After that you can start investing any leftover money.

>>11636584
>robinhood.com
>tfw canadian

>>11636573
Yeah, same, I'm going to wait a couple years for the pop on the housing market here before scooping up a cheapie. That or move.

>>11634753
>>11634652
>>11636537

Facebook is fucked, they are a fad that got too powerful
GOOGl is stable and will probably continue to grow steadily long term, but they are a nice political punching bag in the short term
AMZN is unironically new paradigm business model, plenty of room to grow still if they keep expanding into new markets like they have been
NFLX is going to plateau soon if they havnt already, since only so many people watch TV (and there are plenty of streaming services competing now, along with new ones on the way)
AAPL has been overpriced for years imo, but the market disagrees with me on this so idk

>>11636573
yes, but USA has enough different housing markets that it pulls our average ones down

if Californians were a separate country that couldnt easily spread people back east to the rocky mountains they would be much worse right now

im a bit disconnected from the housing market, since Michigan has been in a 15+ year long recession when it comes to our housing market

but that will change when the water wars start, since we have 24% of the worlds fresh (liquid, non-groundwater) water in our borders

or when global warming destroys every coastline that isnt upstream from niagra falls

Why is the bbc news web site so fucking garbage, it's like buzzfeed look at this shit. radio4 is prety much the only traditional news source worth listening to yet this is the website. It's literaly unusable.

>>11636710
>haters make me famous
Preach it sister

>>11636643
>investing in water
Just like Michael Burry.

>>11636710

seems like a nice piece against the orange bad man,you NPC

>>11636746
its true

>>11636833
>asking a basic question about Trump
>not constantly sucking his dick
Who is the real NPC here, anon?
>>11636643
Based GREAT Lakes poater

>>11636872
>Who is the real NPC here
everyone but Musk

>>11636888
Checked and agreed
We exist only for him

>>11634606
Why should I long LCI?

+any others to look out for

>>11634617

Can someone post the wojak wearing the gpro helmet?

how to invest in more yuri anime i think its an almost untapped source since there are barely one handful of actual non bait yuri animes
yuri manga needs faster translation too

>>11637004
Buy AT&T and Netflix

>>11636975
>Why should I long LCI?
Short squeeze. + they've already been replacing revenue that they lost + the JSP agreement is still in place for this earnings + they have been paying debt off early + they have already launched numerous drugs this year with numerous more to come

>get a free stock
>its shit in free fall over every timescale
T-thanks robinhood

>>11637094
sell it and reinvest

>>11637094
My pleasure, goy.

>>11636032
Because REITs are seeing bearish divergence, commodities and markets around the world are crashing. Everything is hanging on the thread of a 10 year uptrend in the US stock market. Nobody can afford homes and the demand is at a peak. The market crashes, real estate is going to get slaughtered.

>>11636975
long FRSH

>>11635144
By AMRN!, I've been on the train since it was $19 per. Forecast to hit 40 with the top end at $80. No shit, I've read the earnings report, they're getting prepared for major events after the 11th (drug results come out then). No sane company would do this unless the product was in the bag. Then after the 11th, it would not be surprise if they got a takeover offer or two floated at them. Buy now, or miss the profit train!

>>11637240
2 billion over time with drug sales. shit is patented and locked in till 2030. They're only company who can make this drug (unless they get bought). Be like the Viagra pill is now household name. Profit profit profit

>>11637240
>>11637260
you better be right boi

>>11637356
Read the earnings report. its on the website. Decide then

>>11637378
Dunno, dunno, seems kinda overvalued compared to most (non-big) pharma. Still tempted to take a chance though, maybe with a small number of stocks.

>>11637044
>Buy NFLX
pfffthahahaha

>>11637499
the graph says a lot to me, that massive volume out of nowhere suggests someone knows something good.

>>11634606
https://youtu.be/8mGBaXPlri8?t=95

Guys, anyone has the same thing like me where I wanna keep putting money into stocks even if I know I need a good saving account too? How much is enough? I have 10k savings and 5k in stocks. Is that enough, it seems like I'm getting a little addicted into stocks and want more and more. Do I first full my pension fund for this year?

Sold all my vanguard retirement funds on October 29th thinking this was the start of another 2008. Should I just buy back in tomorrow again and accept the 3% loss or wait for the bear market/crash. Is a crash still possible at this point?

>>11634622
CRASHING THIS PLANE

>>11637858
Also reason I want to buy back in is to get in before the post-election bump. Historically markets have 100% always been green following an election. I was really banking on a crash and sort of screwed myself when it didn't happen.

This thread is for faggots.
SAGE

>>11637904
how's your first day off /b/ going?

>>11637858
>he sold the literal Last time the SPX will ever go below 2700 again
Top kekies

Iran sanctions go into effect tonight.

Iran will be holding military drills in response to the sanctions in the straight of Hormuz.

Iran has stated that if their oil shipping containers get stopped, they will respond by seizing Saudi oil tankers in the gulf.

Mid-term is this Tuesday.

Volatility will be king this week. I hope you're in cash.

>>11637858
>Sold all my vanguard retirement funds on October 29th thinking this was the start of another 2008

>getting that emotional over a temporary correction
>selling longterm retirement funds during a recession

even if it had been the start of another 2008, the economy would have recovered eventually, just like it did after 2008
you should be thinking in terms of decades with retirement funds
no matter what you were thinking, you should have just held and kept adding to them gradually
the longer you decide to wait, the less money you'll have in them when you retire
the point of a retirement fund is exponential growth relative to your initial investment (the more money you have in there, the more you'll make)

>>11637929
That's nonsense. A crash is inevitable. This is the longest bull run in history. I just mistimed it. The only question now is do I wait in cash for the eventual 40-50% crash or buy in now for a bit of post-election gains and then go all cash right after that again.

>>11634606
This thread is toxic and should be deleted.

>>>/qa/2402940

>>11637858
minimize your maximum regret. Can you live with buying back in just before the crash more than you can live with missing out on a 1-2 year bull market? Personally, I'd wait for the crasherino.

>>11637943
Sorry, but this is horrible advice. If I sell at the start of a dip at -10% and buy back in at -50% I will accelerate my retirement savings by decades. Holding through a crash is the dumbest thing to do.

>>11637937
I've been sitting on cash for about a month now and am getting impatient. If Monday isn't red I might buy in.

>>11637943
>>11637929
don't listen to these hodl faggots taking such a tiny loss to protect your self against a JUSTing is 100% worth it. think of it as investment insurance

>>11637955
>longest bullrun in history
1950s and 80-90s would like to have a word with you

Just short the market to help boost us true Bulls to the top

>>11637937
I'm balls deep in strangles

>>11637858
>>11637899
>>11637973
The dumbest poster ITT, congratulations
Imagine panic selling your VANGUARD RETIREMENT FUND

>>11637981
>>11637973
>don't listen to these hodl faggots taking such a tiny loss to protect your self against a JUSTing

you're too preoccupied with the short term, you fucking idiots

>>11637973
>If I sell at the start of a dip at -10% and buy back in at -50%

how did that work out for you last time
you can't time the market nearly as well as you think you can

>>11637973
>>11637999
>AHHH IT'S THE START OF ANOTHER 2008 I BETTER SELL NOW I'LL ACCELERATE MY RETIREMENT SAVINGS BY DECADES
>it wasn't the start of another 2008

this is what happened the last time you tried to time the market, and this is what will happen most of the times you try to do it

>>11637955
>le time the market man
whatever dude just hold cash until it eventually crashes

>>11637841
A 'good' saving account gets you what; 2-2.5% per year? An S&P index fund will get you an average of 7% per year.
You could always open your own IRA and put the $5,500 in and then use the $4,500 left for other stocks or index funds.

>>11637999
>>11638011
Double checked
It's mildly infuriating that anyone thinks they can time the market with accuracy
Fucking goldman sachs can't, you really think you can by shitposting on smg?

>>11638016
>just hold cash until it eventually crashes

this isn't crypto
stocks are companies that produce products that have inherent value
the stock market will naturally go up in value over the long term as the size of the economy itself increases

>>11637973
>I sold at the end of a correction
>I can totally catch a falling knife though

>>11637858
>>11637899
>>11637955
>>11637973
you sound retarded, but if you are really worried that you missed the boat, but only kind of, just use half cash to buy back in now, half later
or 1/3 now, 1/3 later, 1/3 when "the crash" happens

your best bet was to never cash out, but to just buy the dip extra hard when we did have the dip

if you are investing well, you deposit money into your stocks every month, so you can just cost average down when a dip happens

panic liquidating your entire portfolio because of a hunch is just pants-on-head retarded though

>>11638023
I'm not sure if my Belgian retirement plan (pension fund) is the same as an IRA. I put 960 euro's in it every year (max) and get back 30% in taxes, the money is put in a fund. I can only get the money when I'm 60 years old.

And yes an Index Fund is more on average but the probem is I need to save some money for my mortage. (I wanna buy a house in 5 years.) So I'm scared to dump it all in stocks because if the market is bad for 5 years I can't sell it to buy a house. But on the other hand I don't wanna save all my money for a mortage. It's a dillema.

>>11638039
So far the cyclical nature of the markets has been proven true, if this anon is like in his twenties he can hold for a bit seeing as we been having a 10 year bull run it is natural to think a crash is near.

>>11638023
Equities are unlikely to yield 7% per year until most of us retire. The rates we have seen are a historical anomaly facilitated by central bank meddling. We will likely see something on the order of the great depression in our life times when the retirement bubble bursts and we have to go full japan to keep everything from collapsing.

>average down
if your stock is going down don't buy more buy something else that is going up

>>11638099

>>11638072
I misunderstood your post, my bad
Holding to refine an entry point is fine

I'm 20, and I only buy stocks in sectors that are relatively loosely correlated with the broader market (biotech, utilities, consumer staples)
I wouldn't buy into something like SPY right now, but even if I did, I would still come out on top in the long term because the size of the economy naturally increases over time as more people are born and require more goods and services

>>11638099
>sell the bottom and buy the top

you're very obviously new to this
if you actually try doing this, you'll learn through experience why this is a bad idea (it's because you can't time the market and nobody has any way of knowing for sure when a stock will stop going up or down)

>>11638062
IRA = Individual Retirement Account
It's basically a second retirement account, but I'm not sure what the rules are for Euros. In the US your contribution is limited by how much you contribute to your 401k iirc.
5 years out? I'd still say index fund instead of a bank. That's just me, though.

>>11638099
why are you assuming stocks that go down in price never go back up?
why are you assuming you will know what stock will do better, when they stock you used to think was going up just dropped?

why are you making so many terrible assumptions?

why do you hate money?

>>11637841
This is what I do each month after bills/etc;

1/6th - Brokerage
1/6th - Savings (Shit Happens)
1/6th - Savings (Retirement Padding)
1/6th - Credit card
1/6th - Hold to cover big ticket yearly ep (Prop Tax for ex)
1/6th - Play money, spend on whatever I want

>>11638128
>>11638099
inb4 "but muh technical analysis"
even technical indicators aren't 100% reliable, and they become less and less accurate the longer the time frame is

also, as a reminder

>>11638128
>>11638143
I'm not talking about timing the market you dip. If we agree can agree the market in general is rising a stock that has shown it's significaly and rapidly on the down turn is not worth holding.

>>11638169
and stock that's going sideways is better sold to reinvest into something that's going up a bit.

>>11638131
We have our legal pension (which is going to be SHIT). Also our employers can save for your retirement, which mine does. Then there is something in which you can save for your retirement by giving a small portion of your income with some tax advantages each month. I don't do that. And then there is a pension plan you can do freely with a maximum of 960 euro's each year, you get 30% back every year and the 960 you put in is put in a pension fund which has around the same % as an index fund.

>>11638165
I'm going long on anime.

>>11638169
>>11638181
You very clearly have no idea what you're talking about, anon

I just want you to know that if you don't change this mindset, you will lose the vast majority of the money you put into the market
You'd be much better off putting that money into a savings account

>>11638165

>starts dating grimes

>becomes a trainwreck anime lover in months

embarrasing

>>11638138

Seems reasonable. Although what is the difference for you between savings and "hold to cover...". Seems like I save for that kinda stuff. Also, credit card? How do you mean? I have a credit card with a 5k limit/month but as long as I don't use it (which I rarely do apart for when I travel) it costs me nothing. I do retirement using my pension plan.

>>11638239
ok we will see

>>11638251
>ok we will see
You don't have to wait and see you absolute mongoloid, read a fucking book

>>11638251
we've seen that already with millions of people who have tried to invest with this mindset
you're a drop of water in an ocean of retards

>>11638273
>>11638265
I don't think I've expressed what I mean very well. I don't think it's that controversial of a concept. are you saying you'd buy a stock that's been going down for the past year?

>>11638273
>>11638251
>>11638282
experience will teach you what we can't
just don't think for a second that what will happen is anyone's fault but your own

>>11638310
I still don't think you get what I'm saying. you've got an idea in your head of something and your applying that to me.

>>11638282
>I don't think I've expressed what I mean very well.
>my thoughts are too complex for words
holy heckies!

>I don't think it's that controversial of a concept. are you saying you'd buy a stock that's been going down for the past year?
if the company has good long term prospects, and good fundamentals, yes

if you only buy stocks when they are at their all time highs, how in the fuck are you going to make any money?

>>11638346
>I still don't think you get what I'm saying. you've got an idea in your head of something and your applying that to me.
ah, so it was bait this entire time?
7/10, you got some replies

>>11638346
The idea I have in my head is that you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about
I think you should read some books or watch some youtube videos about investing before you try to put any money into the market

>>11638364
>>11638373
>>11638380
ok

Alright Americlaps, is the midterm gonna turn the markets green or what? CNBC was saying 89% of the time the market is green after midterms.

>>11638282
>are you saying you'd buy a stock that's been going down for the past year?

It depends why that stock is down but generally yes, that is the idea.

By 2027 the federal reserve balance sheet will be at 8 trillion USD

>>11638462
>CNBC was saying 89% of the time the market is green after midterms.

This is because a lot of investors reduce their market exposure before elections in order to defend against whatever bullshit may or may not occur. Once election is done and outcome is either neutral or positive for markets, they reestablish their holdings. This translates to a fuck ton of buying and green markets for a while.

>>11637858
The guys are mean, but they're right. I feel you bizbro, it's hard to take a 30% loss when your gut is telling you to liquidate and buy back in. You need to control yourself, I'm having trouble too, but you gotta discipline yourself somehow! See this event as a lesson, anon. Everything will be ok

>>11638543
>>11638398
I do admit that I probably could have been less of a dick about it, but this really is basic stuff, anon
You'll learn it with time even if you can't see why it's true at the moment

>>11638573
>>11638543
its ok, the pain of losing your own money once is worth 100000x simulations and "expert advice" from others

without pain, you cannot learn

losing $1,000,000,000 in simulations is nothing compared to losing $10 of your own real money

>>11638573
>>11638543
its ok, the pain of losing your own money once is worth 100000x simulations and "expert advice" from others

without pain, you cannot learn

losing $1,000,000,000 in simulations is nothing compared to losing $10 of your own real money in real time

>>11638573
are you using that screen cap as an example of what I should aim for?

>>11638364
>if you only buy stocks when they are at their all time highs, how in the fuck are you going to make any money?
Buy high sell low is the /biz/ way. We’re all gazillionares because of it.

>>11638617
oops meant for >>11638605
reason I ask is
>fight against the you in a few months, or few years, who has become apathetic to the losses those heavy bags are causeing, so you just continue holding as the price drags down more
is all I'm talking about

>>11638644
>what is a trailing stop

>>11638644
>>11638617
sure?

trading in practice simulations is completely different from trading in real life, especially how you react to the markets mentally

its like comparing watching porn to actually having sex, there are similarities sure, but you dont know how you will react unless you do it

its easy to talk a big game, until you are staring down a -10% day for the third time in a week, and you dont know if this is the end of the world, or there is going to be a +30% tomorrow

FOMO is one hell of a drug

>>11638685
I completely agree with it. It doesn't diverge from my trading philsophy.

>>11634614
This is gold. Fukken saved. Keep up the good work, anon.

>>11638685

>>11634617
Is this a pic of you? I can't stop beating off to it.
>>11634675

>>11638731
I made another one as well
I personally think this one is the better of the two

>>11637858
When the 50 day EMA of the ETF RSP crosses over the 250 day EMA, expect a bear market. This would have gotten you out of the major year 2000 crash, it would have gotten you out of the markets in 2007 and back in near the 2009 low. It had some fakeouts back in 2011, 2015, 2016 but that is much preferable to a 50% draw down. People will doubt it's effectiveness because of how unbelievably simple it is.

>>11636045
Fuck, I love lain so much.

>>11638748
>:(
You were one of my favorite posters
You are now banished to hell

>>11638746

>>11638748
These are so good.
I love big5guy fan art.

That one with the LCI van going off a cliff was stellar.

>>11638769
you said

>P-please let me be on top
when I was making them

That's not something a top says, comfy
I appreciate the fact that I'm one of your favorite posters, though

>>11638775
I have a lot of pictures of 2d men kissing, all I did was add their names onto the men in Paint

>>11638773
Would skin with a potato peeler / 10

>TFW you will never be able to choke out your waifu with your p3nor prior to dismembering her body
>Why even live?

FUTURES OPEN

>>11638799
>I have a lot of pictures of 2d men kissing, all I did was add their names onto the men in Paint
There still just seems to be some kind of artistic talent to it.
It just has some kind of je ne sais quoi.

futures in free fall

>>11638824
>vomiting_anime_girl.png

>>11638824
>>11638807
I think Monday is going to be slightly green overall, but FAANG will have a very bad day

At the very least, I feel fairly confident that my small-cap biotech stocks are going to have a green day

>>11638831
haha so funny n random :xD

>>11638824
Futures are garbage. Futures were -5% after Trump was elected and the markets opened green. Futures are not good predictors of anything. They are the most degenerate form of gambling possible.

>>11638864
>Futures are not good predictors of anything

The position futures close at is a somewhat reliable indicator of which direction the market as a whole is going to go in the next day
It's definitely not 100% reliable, though, and I really don't think that what happens at this time of night means anything

>>11638773
>>11638803
Do you think he tucked for that pic?

>>11638799
>That's not something a top says, comfy
kek
based gay folder

>>11638831
dont hate the player

>>11638864
kek futures drive the global market and wtf, of course the futures dont predict anything (they do actually, but that besides point)

>>11638243
Well right now I've got a balance on the card that I need to pay off. If it wasn't for that then I'd be able to free up some extra $$. I do have a separate 401k and pension but the 401k is not touchable till like age 60 unless I wanna take a penalty. Under my workplace rules I can retire at age 50 w/full benefits & pension. The extra $$ I divert into the other account is to help cover shit for those ten years between 50 and 60. The savings is just that, in case "oh shit, the water heater shits itself" type deal. I don't gotta touch my credit card or if I do I can pay the shit off no problem. I hate debt, I always try to pay shit off quick as I can. The fees and other little shit will kill you.

Fugging EZ money lads

>>11638807
I think im going to just skip looking at the markets until wednesday.
Fucking trump better deliver

>>11638773
Kek at that file name

>>11638956
>binary options

this is equivalent to "investing" in cryptocurrency or betting on sports

>>11634880
got sauce for this big guy. genuinely curious here.

Companies are scaling back their stock buybacks BIGLY. Bobo is here to stay. If you bought into the drumpfonomy hype, congrats: you're going to be holding bags for a looooooong time.

>>11638956
you cant even call this investing.

>>11638995
>>11639032
I'll admit it's literally just gambling on political events
I'm picking up:
Dems win Arizona
Ted Cruz wins over cuck beta
Dems win Gov in Florida
Add more cash to Republicans winning the Senate

>>11639030
stock buy backs should be illegal anyway

>>11639066
Yeah, just more market manipulation by the big wigs. We need a revolution. The market should be de-centralized and not governed by anyone. I should not be forced to save for retirement using a rigged system just because nothing fair exists.

>>11637073
that's pretty good reasoning, I'm more used to options trading so going long is much of a different pace.
>>11637201
buddy why

>>11638864

>"futures bad,orange man good"

>>11638956
>that maximal gain

the whole point of predictit is to find markets inappropriately priced to the actual probability

also the no shares for democrats are 3c cheaper in that market

>>11639047
these other picks are much better in terms of potential profit (unsure on cruz one in terms of risk/reward desu)

anyone else bullish for AMD this week?

>>11634606
BEWARE MARKET MANIPULATION DAY BEFORE THE ELECTION.

1. SCARE NORMIES
2. OH NO MUH GOLFING AND FISHING RETIREMENT MONEY
3. DRUUUUUMPF
4. I'M VOTING DEMOCRAT. BLUE WAVE, PLEASE FUCK MY WIFE.

you get the idea

to degenerate gambler,
Arizona goes red,
Florida goes red.

>>11638773
>>11634675
>>11638746
>>11638918
its been established a few times that that isnt "her"

>>11638824
futures are imaginary
they dont impact the stocks long term price movement

>>11638923
>boys
also looks like a ghetto/retro OS

>>11638956
is the site legit?
can they handle a big upset and still pay out?

>>11639030
>Companies are scaling back their stock buybacks BIGLY. Bobo is here to stay.
how are those two sentences related? that is just prep for the golden-bull

>>11639047
>betting on things he has no effect on
ok thats degenerate tier gambling

>>11639047
>Dems win Gov in Florida

I think Gillum is a bit too liberal to win over moderates
Gillum is ahead slightly in the polls, but the polls are pretty consistently biased towards Democrats (I don't think that's intentional, just that Democrats are more likely to actually answer the polls)

>>11639160
You're retarded. It's proven here >>11639030

>>11639047
(Gillum is the Dem candidate)

>>11639170
They definitely don't have any effect in the long term, but they are a decent short term indicator (ie: next day only)

>>11639172
Skeletor wins Senate and every NPC votes R downballot.
Gillums toast because Nelson is.

>>11639170
>how are those two sentences related? that is just prep for the golden-bull
Your IQ is too low to understand how buybacks affect market valuations. So I suggest you don't worry about it too much.

>>11639007
[Mukade Tou (Mado)] Kidza Nie | Kidz Sacrifice

>>11639170
>is the site legit?
>can they handle a big upset and still pay out?

yes, it's run as a non-profit by an NZ university, but has mostly american markets (all the non-american ones are typically dead except UK sometimes and hot ones like bolsanaro)

They don't have issues with paying out, and take I believe 5% on profitable trades as well as 5% on withdrawing cash.

Soon

>>11639228
You are 5 years late.

US futures down, let's see how nikkei will perform

>>11639241
>5 years late

Where were you in 2016, newfag?

stay poor

>>11635722
fuck of faggot

barrick gold 25$ eoy

>>11639260
>Where were you in 2016
Fucking your whore mother.

>>11639228
Jesus what a weird stock. First time I heard about DRYS so I looked it up. This stock used to be worth over $1 billion a share in 2007 and is now worth $6 a share. That means you would have lost 99.999999...% of your investment if you invested in 2007. NO THANKS. Will be avoiding this company like the plague.

>>11639284

oh boy you sure showed me.

I'm gonna go cry myself to sleep, im so offended

>>11639307
>l-lets pump it again guise
jej

>>11639195
more like first hour or two of the next day

>>11639205
nice argument you have there, i think i will

>>11639260
based

>>11639228
After researching DRYS somewhere, I honestly can't believe any investor would ever touch this company. This company literally stole investor money to rebuild its fleet and then told investors to fuck off and gave them 0 value. How is this allowed? Isn't this just the definition of theft? The company stole investors money.

>>11639369
>This company literally stole investor money to rebuild its fleet and then told investors to fuck off and gave them 0 value.
The Greek way.


> I honestly can't believe any investor would ever touch this company
Only dumbfucks like
>>11639329
>>11639334
Think they can catch the ride again in time. let them blow up the $500 mommy gave them.

>>11639287
>This stock used to be worth over $1 billion a share in 2007 and is now worth $6 a share

This happened because they issued more shares, lowering the relative value of each share
Share price = Value of company/Number of shares

It didn't start out at a billion dollars because the both the value of the company and the number of shares were smaller

The price you're seeing is the price that a share at that period of time would have with the current value of the company but the number of shares that were available at that period of time

>>11639369
I don't own any shares of DRYS, but I really think the guy who panic sold his Vanguard Retirement Fund should be saying anything about other people's decisions

>>11639252
IT'S A SELLOFF

>>11639395
shouldn't*

I'm guessing your "research" was reading one seekingalpha article

>>11639287
its a fun short term
>bought it at $10 in the morning
>sold it at $80 the same day at lunchtime

ahh, good times, its a shame I only bought one share that day

>>11639369
its the perfect P&D stock when you time it right

>>11639389
no, one ride was enough for me
(had 15 shares bought at $0.14 a share that got liquidated the month before)
I got in, got my money, and got out

no fucking way I'll ever get that lucky again

>>11638775
The LCI one going off the cliff make me laugh every time especially since it was made like the first 10 minutes of it happening

>>11639406
hopefully, if numerals there'll be a midterm crash

NVDA
AMD
INTC
GOOGL
TSLA

how do they do this week?

Hope you fags are all stocked up on fb goog put options

>>11639416
>>11639395
That's probably enough research for a stock like DRYS, though
I don't want to get boxed into the "defending DRYS" side of the argument, because I don't want to defend it

>>11639287
>>11639369

>every play is meant to be a long term hold investment

I swear you retards hate money. Look at all the activity lately in the greek shipping sector.

Go park your money into low risk index funds and GTFO.

nikkei bleeding,futures red as fuck OHNONONONONO

>>11639421
Earnings are coming up. What should we expect.

>>11639435
why are people shitting on FAANG

Dems about to take house which will stop any shit from happening in gov.

>>11639451
Nikkei is a very skittish stock market. They always lead down on fear. Very conservative investors in Japan.

Anybody use any stock picking sites like motley fool? There stock picks returned an average return of 339% in the last 3 years while the S&P500 only returned 79%. Motley fool stock picks have outperformed indexes in the last 16 years. Already dumped vanguard should I take active approach based on these stock picks? Low cost is pointless if I can get 5 times better returns with good picks.

>>11639443
only research you need for big P&D's is multiple diverse /rgt/ shills

>>11639450
is it time? wheres the meme chart?

also
>>11639419
was Nov 14 2016

>>11639456
because FB is overpriced and most are realizing that now
also contrarian-bias peoples are getting smug

>>11639456
FAANGs is a bloated sector hanging by a shoestring if the internet would ever go out.

>>11639456
they're the most overvalued stocks in the most overpriced sector of the entire market

>>11639406
For what reason? We survived October and last week was calming.

>>11639521
no one even knows why October sell off happened kek

>>11639521
Can you think of any reason prices should be increasing?

>>11639501
>FB is overpriced

FB, Netflix, and Apple, imo
Apple is going to take a beating next week

>>11639536
People can't predict the future.

It also means people who can predict the future can't predict the market.

It's a fucked thing.

Even being far above humanity can't let someone reliably hit crazy returns. Only good ones.

>>11639549
Tesla is the new apple

Fight it all you want but it's true. Apple is finally losing it's shine.

>>11639501
I think Amazon is the strongest of the FAANG stocks

Amazon > Google > Apple > Netflix/Facebook
I think Netflix and Facebook are definitely going to take the worst of the inevitable FAANG correction

>>11639581
Google has the waymo pump coming though and DEEPMIND is the best AI research place in the world IMO.

>>11639452
I'm not expecting much from this ER I've seen stocks that do terrible on an ER with a tightness on share structure fly. LCI still has JSP agreement in place till next year. Most debt isn't due till 2021 and I'm sure alot I'd selling and administration expenses is focused around JSP products.

IMO mostly all bad news is behind LCI. I hope they make it clear that they have already been successful in replacing lost revenue and that they have already been acquiring and launching new products aswell as giving good foward guidance on their plans to replace revenue and cut expenses.

LCI is not as bad as the stock price may make it look. Anyone that goes through their filings should know they are still in a strong position with a huge arsenal of products and clean share structure. Even if it pulls back a little after earnings I'm holding

>>11639589
I like that Amazon is diversifying into a wide variety of industries and finding many different sources of revenue

I think Facebook is going to get hurt by the privacy scandals and the increasing popularity of other social networks, and Netflix is going to get hurt by the increasing number of competitors and weak earnings

>>11639540
Yes, tons.

Election uncertainty drawing to a close.
A hard Brexit seems to be off the table.
Most big names finished earning reports.
Trade war talks going to proceed at G20.
Buyers seize opportunity on cheap stocks.

I'm genuinely curious why October's crazy volatility should persist.

>>11639536
funds moving for the crypto blastoff?

>please?

probably midterms jitters though to be realistic, or heard mentality when one a bigspec made a short bet

>>11639540
can you think of any reason prices shouldnt be increasing?
>hardmode: past performance does not guarantee future results

>>11639549
AAPL has been overpriced for 4-5 years now imo, but market hasnt agreed with me on that yet

Netflix no longer has first mover advantage, but they will probably just movesideways now, not drop like a rock (NFLX is a new-age big cable ISP now)

FB's only customers are advertising agencies, users are the product
and users are starting to avoid them, growth worldwide is drying up

>>11639581
yes, AMZN can continue exponential growth as long as there are new markets for them to enter (and there are still plenty)
AMZN>GOOGL>NFLX>AAPL>>>>FB
imo
GOOGL and FB are going to be political punching-bags for the next year or two at least, but GOOGL will still exist in 10 years
FB is almost to the tipping point where it becomes new-Myspace

AAPL is in for a world of pain if they dont create the next "killer app" (ipod, iphone) within the next 10 years

>>11639589
yes, they are excellent long term
but they have a few speedbumps coming up in the short term

>>11639634
all stock movement right now is purely political speculation
and we all know how many rich fucks want america to die

>>11639663
I think FAANG as a whole is overvalued, and I personally don't like the tech sector in general (I don't think it's bad, I just prefer other ones more)
I think Amazon and Google are the strongest FAANG companies overall, though, and that they'll likely still be very large corporations in the future

I like sectors that are more loosely correlated with the broader market and are somewhat recession proof (Biotech, Utilities, Consumer Staples)

>>11639501

It is time, sir.

>>11637973

Be honest. You can't predict the market better than anyone else with legions of people looking at computer banks full of data all day. You either KNOW it will crash or not. Decide wisely.

>>11639705
>>11639670
This is why I like Biotech, Utilities, and Consumer Staples
No matter what happens politically or economically (barring a total societal collapse), people will buy medicine, need water and electricity, and buy food/cigarettes/Coke

>>11639565
>>11639663
thanks for laugh

>>11639634
Amazon big plus is autonomous driving boosts them so much


My entire portfolio is best on self-driving related companies

>>11639565
>people cant predict the future
I predict google will be broken up with anti trust laws due to their treasonous nature.
Screen cap this.

>>11639743
thx for the memories

^_^

>>11639743
RKG didn't you go for hillary lol, meanwhile Trump saved the world already

>>11639663
>funds moving for the crypto blastoff?

never happening

>>11639786
China collapse would push BTC to 10k+ because of moving funds around

>>11639779
me was in sauna with bunch of red necks few weeks ago
they were praising trump because of his economy, saying how well the stock market did, this triggered me (unironically)

me was of like "guys.... we're about to enter a new rescission, trump has ruined the econmommy, your 401k would be 10% bigger if it wasnt for him"

they were like "lol kid we're small buisness owners, what do you do?

me was like "uhhh I trade stocks for a living, you better cash out now"
then mme walked out of sauna (had already been in for 40 mins anyways)

what do you know, next week we went from 294 to 270 (had made nice amount shorting, but longed @ 276 like retard)

>>11639786
I know

but its nice to dream....

>I'll be an early adapter someday
>at least in my dreams ;|

someday that 1 AMZN share for $990 will be a better bet than 1 BTC for $950

someday...

>>11639818
I'm now 5% gayer for reading this.

>>11639818
based rkg

>>11639083
Holy fuck, just realised how fucked up this is.

>>11639818
recessions dont happen, fear and panic create recession.
Recessions are just lemmings following bankers sell offs. Thats it. Its always the fucking bankers and they need to hang.

>>11639818
Damn. I'm sure Syrian ground war and conflict with Russia by out of touch end of history Hillary would have been better.


The recession is fake and gay if you couldn't tell.

>>11639818
Why would anyone be proud of this

>>11639889
shut up comfy! you were tell me how drink Budweiser a few days ago, jesse chris -_-;

>>11639885
only thing Trump was done right = "leak" (wink) how he wanted assassinate pants off Assad,
that lead him to stop dicking around with bombing civs and finish off Isis

>>11639883
yes they do, ecomommies enter naturally unsustainable cycles
we unironcially about to enter unsustainable debt cycle where the only solution will be reopening of salt mines and debtor prisionss

>>11639863
>>11639850
>

>>11639943
>mfw

>tfw still 6% down this year from +7% upside

Great timing on my part. Finally start making enough money to put aside some of it towards investing and now the bullrun is ending.

Knowing my luck, I just know that we'll most likely enter a 10-15 year long stagnation phase/slow descent instead of just being able to pick up some cheapies.

>>11639818
>me was in sauna with bunch of red necks few weeks ago
Bullshit story, better luck next time.

>>11639943
>where the only solution will be reopening of salt mines and debtor prisionss

or a global debt reset

Can we have a discussion on the negative aspects of dollar cost averaging a 3x etf like udow or spxl over a long period of time?
Ive been reading articles about it and the warnings just dont make sense to me. They keep talking about % loss and gained but looking at the yearly charts and even historical data over 10 years it looks exactly the same. Most negatives described involve having to sell off shares in a bear market. I cant find studies where you never sell.
What do you think?
I also hear about decay but if there was significant decay the charts and prices wouldnt match or even correlate.

>>11639456
Dems are a bunch of pedo and nigger enabling faggots. The only they're going to take is a huge shit on the hopes of the tranny freaks who vote for them.

>>11639997
its just going to be bretton woods 2.0

>>11639943
are you thinking ML isn't a new revolution?

I see housing for sure being fucked by aging population and young people having no savings or desire to go in that deep on expensive homes.

Do you think Google/Amazon and others aren't the future though? They won't collapse like people think. Look at tech in 2007-2008.

Tech, the established kind, isn't a bubble. Some ventue might be. Some social media might be. Google? No.

>>11639850
>>11639889
>>11639995
the LARP has gone on for too long

>>>11639999

>>11640022
rednecks are actually doing great right now though.

RKG is so out of touch.

>>11640006
http://www.ddnum.com/articles/leveragedETFsandDCA.php

There is no benefit over long periods of time, but I would still have cash to buy after large dips

>>11640022
The most logical explanation of RKG is that she is a FtM trans.

>>11640039
>>11640039
>>11640039
NEW THREAD

here is what I've noticed. Everyone saying "40% correction soon" because it's happened before.

40% on what?

the 30% correction that already happened?

Technology isn't going away. This whole thing is fake and gay. Walmart isn't suddenly going ot be the place to put your money.

>>11640042
I'd prefer >her to be a skinny little twink that I can dominate and beat the shit out of.

>>11640036
>>RKG is so out of touch.
there is a reason for this, RKG has been out of touch for a few months now...

>>11640042
thats been known for a while now

the real logical explanation is that she died back a few days before she magically got leveraged $25k account
and a new person has taken up her name to keep the mascot alive

>>11640040
>model assumes 1% fees on etf vs sp500
kinda makes the model inaccruate dont you think

>>11639975
>we'll most likely enter a 10-15 year long stagnation phase/slow descent instead of just being able to pick up some cheapies.
This is unironically about to happen. Get in on sdow and sqqq while you can.

>>11640080
UPRO fees are only 0.92%

>>11640101
ah i see.
the fee is the killer variable there.
So with every leveraged etf you have a decay of nearly 1% simply from the fee of holding the etf.

>>11639456
Because we read the Wikileaks you stupid faggot