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I got cucked. I built a web app and my partner just took it and ditched the bill. I have nothing in writing. I already talked to a bunch of lawyers and they don't think they can get any equity, and probably not more than minimum wage for my work. Two years down the toilet.

Even though the lawyers told me I'm fucked, I want to fight them. Best case scenario is I destroy the company through endless litigation so he can't get away with it. How do I find an attack dog lawyer who is willing to use any means necessary to take them down?

>> No.11608246

fuck the law. break his arms and legs. figuratively speaking, of course.

>> No.11608258
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>>11608221
So slutty, but holy FUCK.

>> No.11608267

>>11608221
Gonna need a sauce on that, anon.

>> No.11608270

>>11608221
Hookers?

>> No.11608273

>>11608221
Dude you aren’t Facebook no one cares about your gay web app. Let it go.

>> No.11608276

Yeah, I'm thinking she braps.

>> No.11608280

>>11608267
prostitutes.com

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>>11608221

whats the web app?

merv.tech is a cool one, unbiased opinion of course

also there goes like 10 anon's nofap nov with that video

>> No.11608291

>>11608221
Fuck your partner OP, if you built it that means you also have the code/know how it was built.

Launch your identical "clone" and market it better than him.

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>>11608221
girls never dance like that for me when I stand close to them holding my phone

>> No.11608311

>>11608221
I can help you. First step is to buy LINK

>> No.11608326

redpill me on this trend of adjectiveadjectivenoun for porn webm filenames. it's everywhere from creepshots to hentai

>> No.11608341

>>11608221
I feel like just being in the same room as all those those dumb sluts would make you stupider.

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11608345

> invests time and energy creating a product for someone

> doesn’t have an agreement in writing, email, or any other legible form of inception

> just gives it without payment without any safeguards like restricted mode, accessible bsckdoor, or significant identifiers that he wrote it

Bruh. You lack the basic of basic principles when it comes to client contract work and yet you say you have the resources to battle it out in court just to drain his money.

I’m gen z - is it a fair statement to guess you are a boomer.

>> No.11608355

>>11608345
I say client but I meant it - sounds to me that you weren’t partners in firm communication you just went with it believing that 50/50 would be a given

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>>11608221

>> No.11608431

>>11608341
where do I sign

>> No.11608433

>>11608291
It’s a niche market that is very hard to get into.

>>11608345
I trusted them because I’m an idiot. I don’t have much money, but I will wage slave to pay lawyers if I have to.

>>11608355
He told me over and over I would be paid in full and get 30% of the company. I have received nothing. He is a complete piece of shit.

>> No.11608556

>>11608433
Don't doubt it OP. When you have an identical product and only a single competitor, the only thing standing between you, your ex-partner, and customers is your ability to sell your product over their ability to sell their product.

You need marketing and sales to get yourself i front of potential customers and establish yourself as THE market leader over your competitor. Most of the battle is just running your operation more efficiently than them and appearing more trustworthy on the outside.

>> No.11608730

just release the source on github

>> No.11608751

>>11608221
You built no back door? Nuke the fucking app. Find a way to trojan his shit. Break in to his home and inject some malware. Fuck lawyers, you're a man. Get what's yours

>> No.11608761

>>11608221
gib

>> No.11608838

>>11608326
Automatically generated filenames. Started by GfyCat, I believe.

>> No.11608843

>>11608295
You should try filming them as you touch your left ball in a circular motion.

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>>11608367

>> No.11608900

>>11608221
2 years and nothing proving it's you who built it? don't you use git? what did this "partner" do? if you litigate (which I think you should because fuck these kind of kikes) he would have to lie by saying you didn't do anything

>> No.11608909

>>11608433
How the fuck isn't a lawyer talking about an estoppel action for detrimental reliance?

Wiki:
There are many different types of estoppel which can arise, but the common thread between them is that a person is restrained from asserting a particular position in law where it would be inequitable to do so. By way of illustration:

If a landlord promises the tenant that he will not exercise his right to terminate a lease, and relying upon that promise the tenant spends money improving the premises, the doctrine of promissory estoppel may prevent the landlord from exercising a right to terminate, even though his promise might not otherwise have been legally binding as a contract. The landlord is precluded from asserting a specific right.

If they promised you 30% and being paid in full you should be entitled to Quantum Meruit. "a reasonable sum of money to be paid for services rendered or work done when the amount due is not stipulated in a legally enforceable contract."

Get a better lawyer.

>> No.11608940

>>11608221
I came everywhere....dude i'd give anything for that girl in the black booty shorts

>> No.11608975

>>11608221
can't you prove that you built the app by showing e-mails, source code commits, whatsapp messages?

>> No.11608994

>>11608730
This

>> No.11609020

>>11608221
>he trusted another human being without notarized guarantees and three layers of smart contracts to place a bounty on some dank net hit site in case anything goes wrong
never gonna make it my dude
PS: all is pretense and sarcasm of course. Glowniggers fuck off ahahaha (also sarcasm, glowniggers)

>> No.11609118

Welcome to business. nerd

>> No.11609211

>>11608221
Just fuckin cave his head in you'll feel heal better

>> No.11609225

>>11608295
A slap on the ass goes a long way

>> No.11609267

>>11608221
I am on a 8th day of nofap. Why you do dis.

>> No.11609274

hey OP I work in e-commerce / performance marketing / SaaS. When I was just getting started, I had something similar happen and was robbed out of 6 figs. Considering the lawyers you've spoken to already aren't confident, the best route you can take is to release the project yourself as a competitor.

>> No.11609287

>>11609267
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDQzAYOS3JA

>> No.11609302

pretty good butt movement

>> No.11609311

>>11608221
Just fucking nuke them any way how. You either go to court if you have good enough proof, or fuck them up with malware, or just fucking hire a torpedo to break his kneecaps. Doesn't matter as long as he doesn't get away with it.

>> No.11609445

>>11608900

This. In fact, if nothing was signed then you probably still own the codebase OP and can clean him out for stealing YOUR product. Seriously, get a better lawyer. Next time lrn2 get things in writing.

>> No.11609459

>>11608909
OP won't reply to this, because it's a larp.

>> No.11609475

>>11608221
>spend two yours of your life doing something expecting monetary return
>gets nothing in writing

Sad & retarded. Many such cases.

>> No.11609520

kidnap and torture him you fucking pussy
some cunt is going to steal two years work and you're going straight to lawyers? man up and cut dick off and jam it down his throat

>> No.11609533

>>11608221
>>11608246

This. If the law can't help you you need to help yourself. Fuck him up.

>> No.11609534

>>11608246
unironically this
welcome to the real world of business
hurt the fucker hard enough and he'll never utter a word of it

>> No.11609554

>>11608221
Release the code for free open source and market it.

>> No.11609567

>>11609225
...to court

>> No.11609572

How does someone steal a web-app if you wrote it? just use the code you wrote and go launch your own?

>> No.11609621

>>11608221
Jesus fuck, is this honestly just random Croatian club thots? I'm fucking going.

https://net.hr/webcafe/svastara/minimalno-se-gibaju-ali-svejedno-hipnotiziraju-promatrace-nocnim-klubovima-se-siri-vrlo-jednostavan-ali-efikasan-ples/

>> No.11609823

>>11608221
First of all, fuck you. You cluelessly walked down a dark alley and effectively got shanked for your naivete. The reason cunts like the guy who did this to you exist is because it is an effective strategy, and it is an effective strategy because people like you exist. Now we can take it as a given that this lesson is going to be deleterious on the quantity of people in your group, let's see what we can do about making it as simultaneously deleterious on the quantity of people in his group, because although you were stupid, no sense allowing a cunt to just get away with his shit if there's a way around it.
What's the app? Where's the customer base?
How negatively affected by the publicity of having it known what happened will said cunt actually be? If the answer is very, the simplest possible result may simply be a publicity attack to make it clear what happened, if it costs him more than he stands to lose from the negative publicity, it is economically rational for him to pay you.
Assuming for some reason in this particular way he's completely watertight on anything you could do to him, who is he? Look for other vulnerabilities. It doesn't have to be the same thing, anything upon which you can apply leverage and create pain for him, do so. Be the karma he has coming, that's why karma is a real thing after all.
I wouldn't even bother with the legal system, it'll cost more than you get even assuming you could win.

>> No.11609868

>>11608221
Forget jewish lawyers, they'll not help you you should break his legs or blackmail him.

>> No.11609886

Legal system is a waste of time/money. Find a way to plant a trojan. Contact Jim browning on YouTube

>> No.11609890

https://github.com/bibanon/bibanon/wiki/Ruin-Life-Tactics

>> No.11609894

>>11608556
He controls the data that the app uses. It won't run without it. I can't get it from him. It's possible there are competitors I could buy it from. If I did successfully take the market, he would probably sue me. I'd rather nuke the whole thing.

>>11608900
I can prove I built it, but it doesn't matter according to numerous lawyers. I cannot prove that I deserve high wages. I had at least two lawyers tell me I might get minimum wage. For that I would rather destroy the project than let him steal it for minimum wage.

>>11608909
Quantum Meruit has been mentioned. However, it's hard to prove. I actually had several lawyers turn me down already.

>>11608975
I can prove I built it. I may not be able to prove that I am owed an hourly rate above minimum wage. That is what a few lawyers said.

>>11608730
I'd say a better plan is to try to sell it to a competitor, but then I could get sued if I'm successful.

>>11609211
I wish it was that easy. They would CSI the shit and catch me. I'd never survive in prison.

>>11609274
Sorry to hear you were as stupid as me. It would be very difficult to launch myself as a competitor. I don't have access to the base data. I would have to talk to one of their competitors just to see if I can buy the data I need to run the site.

>>11609459
I wish it was.

>>11609475
I actually asked for it multiple times. They just kept making bigger promises and making excuses, which I fell for. I didn't do much of anything the past 6 months.

>>11609520
>>11609533
CSI man. I'd never survive prison.

>> No.11609918

>tfw OP got Zuckerberged

>> No.11609937

>>11609621
They all look the same.

>> No.11609975

>>11609937
and that's *why* I'm fucking going. I don't want interesting, I want obscenely sexual ass waving in face displays of genetic perfection.

>> No.11610005

>>11609823
He was a friend of a friend, and I considered him to be a friend at one point too. I was dumb as fuck though. I admit it.

The app is used in a corporate niche market. You'll never hear about it. It's boring af stuff that's important for people in the industry.

Since it's not a public thing, I doubt that making the story public will do much. He will just lie in return, which might hurt me more.

The legal system is fucked. I don't think I have a chance at winning. Now it's just how much damage I can do. I would gladly kamikaze this asshole as long as I know it hurts him more than me.

>> No.11610036

>>11610005
Well, you probably know the future. He needs to sell it to profit, so in what way can you ensure he doesn't successfully connect with clients for the first year or 2?

Where was your business heading before it was taken from you? Who were the goal, how can you reach that.

>> No.11610048

>>11608221

>bottle of Jose Cuervo

Are these sluts serious?

>> No.11610052

>>11610005
> He was a friend of a friend
Is that friend a potential source of leverage? Is he prepared to torpedo two relationships over this? Or have they both unceremoniously knifed you?
> The app is used in a corporate niche market. You'll never hear about it. It's boring af stuff that's important for people in the industry.
The more boring corporate niche it is, the more likely it has to adhere to some bullshit industry behavioural code or standard which the slightest "I called a tranny a tranny" kind of feather on the scales can set off, find it if it exists and press hard on it.
> He will just lie in return, which might hurt me more.
> Now it's just how much damage I can do
Well sounds like you don't much care the damage his lies might do to you and you're prepared to sacrifice in order to draw blood on him, so going public and making it hurt as much as you can appears to be the rational option.

>> No.11610061

This is a LARP

>> No.11610111

>>11610052
>Is that friend a potential source of leverage? Is he prepared to torpedo two relationships over this? Or have they both unceremoniously knifed you?
He is on my side, but there isn't much he can do.

>>11610052
>Well sounds like you don't much care the damage his lies might do to you and you're prepared to sacrifice in order to draw blood on him, so going public and making it hurt as much as you can appears to be the rational option.
Public image matters more to me personally because I'm trying to get into the crypto space. There are so many scammers already that just having a bad rumor could kill my opportunities. Now if we're just talking money, then I will throw as much money on the fire as I can if I know it will destroy the company. Where is Saul Goodman when you need him?

>> No.11610112

>2 years of work and not stopping it completely at one point and demanding ANY money
OP deserves it

>> No.11610123

>>11610112
I demanded money and contracts multiple times. They successfully manipulated me. This is the biggest fuck up of my life and I deserve it. He also deserves to burn for this so I'm going for his neck.

>> No.11610196

If he is using code you wrote, he is currently in violation of your copyright, since there was no contract, right? The hell is this "minimum wage" thing about? Shouldn't you just aim to deny him from using your code until he does what you want?

>> No.11610213

>>11609621
Well looks like we know the link party will be

I can't fucking believe people are talking about crypto after seeing this girl. Is she even real? Holy fuck what an ass

>> No.11610225

>>11610196
I would love to do that but the lawyers said there was nothing to stop him from hiring another developer to rebuild. It would cost a lot less to rebuild since it is easier to copy than to figure out from nothing. I need to destroy the entire company.

>> No.11610238

>>11608246
this. And not figuratively speaking. Literally break his arms and legs.

>> No.11610250

>>11609894
What's his name? Where is he located? What's the app? Post any info.

>> No.11610264

>>11608221
White people are such awkward dancers

>> No.11610298

>>11609894
Sue for what? Can't you prove you made it.

>> No.11610346

>>11610264
>Fag detected

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>>11608221
Sup anon, lawyer here.

In this kind of problems you should consider the following:

1) Divide money and feelings
2) Most lawyers play by the rules, dark lawyers are indeed no so easy to come by.
3)How much your peace of mind and your time worth?
4)Try investing first in psicology therapy to know your true goals with all this.
5)Through my experience , the more unstable the client is the more money i can get from him. Attack dog lawyers normally wants to set rome on fire so they can work and charge you more, dont fall for the meme.
6) Personal advice: check yourself up, invest in yourself and rebuild yourself through it. There is no sweeter revenge than having a better life anyways, moving on with no problem. With this Iam not telling you to quit your economical claims, but to think what time and by what means your are more likely to achive what is yours.

TLDR: dont play around with dirty tactics, most likely you are going to get the worst deal, trust me on this one.

Wish you luck, fren

>> No.11610441

>>11609894
I'll do it for you anon

rek8975@pm.me

>> No.11610445

>>11610399
Ah! I forgot, reasearch intelllectual property law in your country. Maybe you have the answer there, emails , payments , credit card statements etc.... everything can constitude proff in most legislation.
English is not my native tongue btw.

>> No.11610607

>>11609894
Either find the data from another source or joint venture with a competitive data source.

>> No.11610637

>>11610225
>>11610441
Pay him in crypto, op. that's what this shit is for.

>> No.11610730

>>11610399
I hope you're not actually a lawyer because I hate this advice.

> 1) Divide money and feelings
If I do that then taking a minimum wage settlement will get the most money. That's complete shit. That's letting them get away with it.

> 2) Most lawyers play by the rules, dark lawyers are indeed no so easy to come by.
How do you even find one though? Should I go for someone who lost their license at one point?

> 3)How much your peace of mind and your time worth?
Burning the company down and knowing justice has been served would bring me peace of mind. This is worth a lot to me. If I had to put a number of it, $150,000.

> 4)Try investing first in psicology therapy to know your true goals with all this.
Like what? Meditation? Visit a guru?

> 5)Through my experience , the more unstable the client is the more money i can get from him. Attack dog lawyers normally wants to set rome on fire so they can work and charge you more, dont fall for the meme.
You're making it sound like there is not a single lawyer that cares about real justice. Not legal justice, real justice.

> 6) Personal advice: check yourself up, invest in yourself and rebuild yourself through it. There is no sweeter revenge than having a better life anyways, moving on with no problem. With this Iam not telling you to quit your economical claims, but to think what time and by what means your are more likely to achive what is yours.
I'll consider this.

>> No.11610742

>>11610445
>reasearch intelllectual property law in your country
I tried to contact an IP lawyer, but he didn't return my e-mail. Since very little is in writing, it may be very hard to prove. The only thing in writing is the NDA that I signed.

>> No.11610789

>>11610441
Invalid e-mail.

>> No.11610795

>>11610607
I'd give everything to the competitor if they promised to bulldoze his company.

>> No.11610799

>>11610789
I was joking bro
We probably on other sides of the world anyway, I sincerely wish you the best of luck
if you would like some advice though, rexx_rx@protonmail.com

>> No.11610802

>>11610730
That advice is gay as fuck. Don't do any of that shit. Put this mother fucker into the ground.

>> No.11610810

>>11610799
Invalid e-mail again. Wtf man.

>> No.11610836

>>11610810
Dude, in all seriousness, are you going to keep pussy footing around with this "Lawyers already told me I'm fucked" attitude, with your head down and a dick up your ass? Obviously don't physically hurt the guy, but ruin his chances at ever being able to profit from your work. Release the source code, or pursue legal matters anyways, or buy the data and release as a competitor. Don't sit here in this thread just fucking moping around when people are giving you legitimate advice. If you are seriously this fucking beta then you deserve to lose this shit anyways.

>> No.11610870

>>11609894
I know OP is a larping faggot but implying he isn't for one second it's clear to see he doesn't deserve shit.
>Ohh i cant do this
>I wouldn't get away with that
>I can't compete against my old partner
OP is a bitch made faggot. All his old partner did was take advantage of what was given to him to make the best out of his situation. I can't say i blame the guy honestly. Hell if i was partnered with someone and I knew if i cheated them out of their share all they'd do is bitch about it on 4chan I'd fuck them over in a heartbeat.

>> No.11610891

>>11610730
Real justice is mostly street justice. If that's too hot for you, than go the more s()y route: doxxing, shaming, hacking etc.

>> No.11610900

>>11610810
xx=kk

>> No.11610910

>>11608221
What. A. Whore.

>> No.11610914

>>11610870
I hope choke on a dick you piece of shit. There is nothing right about what he did. I want to ruin this asshole without ruining my future.

>> No.11610971

>>11610914
That anon is not wrong. You're being a huge bitch.

>> No.11610996

>>11610914
>. I want to ruin this asshole without ruining my future.
And this is really fucking easy, but you'll accomplish nothing if you do nothing

>> No.11611017

>>11610971
I need to know my options. What do you expect me to do, just charge out there, guns blazing, without even thinking it through? If this was the wild west we would have already met at high noon and shot each other. Obviously I'm not just sitting here crying about it since I contacted multiple lawyers. This piece of shit needs to be destroyed.

>> No.11611029

>>11610996
You think I should tonya harding this idiot? You watch too many movies.

>> No.11611030

>>11608221
>>11610910

Holy shittt, is this how whores "dance" now?

>> No.11611222

>>11608221
SAUCE and I will give you a blackhat technique that can shut him down.

>> No.11611249

>>11608221
IMAGINE THE FUCKING SMELL BOYS, JUST IMAGINE IT

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>> No.11611260

>>11611222
I think it's Yus Lopez. Now drop the deets.

>> No.11611269

sounds like you should intimidate the dude. make sure nothing can be traced back to you and then crucify his dog on a cross in his back yard while he's away.

>> No.11611283

>>11611269
I'm not going to kill an innocent dog.

>> No.11611284

>>11611269
maybe less autistic than this would be to fuck with him in more subtle ways. Vandalize his car and house, poison his dog, order take out food to his house constantly, sign up for junk mail and spam messages using his address and phone #. Of course this is for theoretical and educational purposes and shouldn't actually be done.

>> No.11611290

>>11611283
why not? Don't you want your money? It's just a dog and if you put the fear into him maybe he'll sign over. Inb4 you end up in prison because you get caught doing something stupid

>> No.11611306

>>11611290
Sure I want the money, but more than that I want justice. Killing a dog is not going to mean justice. He'll probably get pissed off and find a way to kill my dog.

>> No.11611341

>>11611306
maek his doggo killed more than he make yuor doggo kill
learn from ATF fren

in all seriousness dude you're fucked. This is the price you pay for being a gullible idiot. If you take matters into your own hands and start fucking this dude up you might get a good resolution depending on how smart you are. a bunch of bleach in his gas tank or sneak a balled up cotton towel soaked in linseed oil into some dusty corner of his garage
this post is for theoretical metaphysical and lampoon-spiritual artistic study only

>> No.11611370

>>11608221
>brainlet opens thread with thirst gif
pottery

>> No.11611376

>>11611260
Find his paypal account and send him $0.01cent as many times as you can, then go to your bank to file chargebacks for all of them. PayPal will charge him a fixed $25.00 for each chargeback regardless of the transaction amount.

>> No.11611398

>>11611376
That's both traceable and Paypal would reverse it.

>> No.11611437

>>11611398
Use a 'stolen' credit card.

Dude, do you even have any friends willing to do shady shit?

You could just pay some dirtbag to rob his house. Cryptocurrency is your friend.

>> No.11611446

>>11608221
Rape his wife

>> No.11611515

>>11611437
Paypal would just reverse all that shit. This is a ridiculous tactic.

I don't know any shady people who would do that kind of stuff.

>> No.11611602

>>11611515
Go on darknet, find a person willing to hack as many of his accounts as possible. Wipe app's repo. Shit like that, once you get his identity sell or give it away

>> No.11611614

>>11608221
Look at all those empty soulless eyes attached to those gyrating bodies.

>> No.11611635

>>11611614
Literally built for sex

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>show up at 3AM at his house
>force your way in
>beat the shit out of him and tell him you are his new business partner now
>every week he will pay you 40% or else he can invest that money in a wheelchair
>to show you are serious break his nose

>> No.11611697

>>11608221
This. >>11608246 Trump used mafia to make sure businesses never crossed him.

>> No.11611713

>>11610238
lmao

>> No.11611819

>>11608900
>>11609894
since you can prove it is your creation and nothing was set in writing, what prevents you from selling YOUR solution to a competitor? The answer is absolutely nothing, they can't sue you for this.

>> No.11611877

>>11608838
thanks anon, you're a good man

>> No.11611890

>>11608221
hey OP had the same (but slightly different) situation happen to me. Basically $100k down the drain. At the time, holy shit did it sting. I was depressed - totally lost my swag - felt like a complete fool. Probably took me a good 6 months to finally stop feeling sorry for myself and move on.

You already know the answer, which is that you can do fuck shit about it. When I made my fuck-up I was 30 and the $100k was pretty much all I had. It was a $100k lesson to learn GET SHIT IN WRITING. It was an expensive lesson. But I can assure you I didn't make that mistake again.

I'm assuming you're probably mid 20's give or take and so look at it as a lesson learned that hopefully you'll apply to the remaining 40 or so years you're working. It's a fucking expensive lesson so don't make the same mistake again.

As I tell people now - I'm glad I made the mistake with 6 figures and not down the road with 7 figures. If you lost out on 5 figures just be glad you didn't do it with 6. Wasting more energy just trying to take him down with you is just that.. a waste. Move on, accept the facts, have peace with it and things will be just fine.

There is shit you can learn at school and shit you learn in real life. You just got a taste of some real life lessons.

>> No.11611897

>>11608221
Start following him everywhere he goes learn his routines wait for a good opportunity then strike.
Baseball bat / hammer or just a big rock to the back of the head with all you got, after that take his testicles. Literally take them, cut them off and throw them to the first dog you encounter.
While you lay low in Cambodia remake your app

>> No.11611931

>>11609621
>random
Lmao

>> No.11611942

Why don't you change up the story and sue him for literally stealing your code.
Since there is no contract and you have control over the original repositories (right?) , you can say you built it, showed it to him, then he took it without your consent.
That or physical violence.

>> No.11612276

>>11611515
You're an idiot, no wonder you got cucked you faggit. Grow some fucking balls.

Paypal wont reverse anything. You can send those sort of transactions over the course of 10 days then request a chargeback on all of them. They don't all have to be $0.01 exactly.

>> No.11612286

>>11608221
the white girl in the yellow and black is an absolute 11/10

>> No.11612376

Should have watched the social network.

>> No.11612422

>>11609554
this. the competitors have the data too, let them us it.

>> No.11612456

holy shit i love this thread because it begins with this nearly impossibly stupid story

then it keeps getting better as you progress through the thread

OP follows it up by confirming he's some braindead beta cuck who doesn't take any advice after over 100 damn posts

FUCKING PATHETIC

seriously sad lol

>> No.11612483

>>11608246
Fuck that. That won't work. He'll just send some goons to break your legs. You need to get some hard ass niggas to rape him and take pictures/video and threaten to send it to all his family and peers.

>> No.11612490

>>11612456
Typical narcissist. They never really ask question, just expect confirmation of their decision.

>> No.11612551

Sorry to say it OP but you're a cuck. I would have done the same in your partner's place just to teach you a lesson, and I'm no jew.

>> No.11612572

>>11608221
i want to see more of that brapper with the stripped pants

>> No.11612603

>>11608221
why are they all standing like that? What's wrong with their backs?

>> No.11612913

Assuming you don't manage to "punish" him, which will probably be the case according to all the informations you gave us, chill out. You're probably boiling out of rage right now, but it won't help no matter what. Hell, you might even find another way to clear this case once you're calm.
Then, if there is really nothing to do, move on. You have just realized that being overconfident in people can fuck you up. Take that as a lesson and try again. Maybe you'll do a Steve Jobs. What's for sure is that you persist trying to go through a wall, you won't ever be satisfied.

>> No.11612936

>>11611647
this and grab some gabagool on the way out

>> No.11612968

>>11608221
Haha idiot, if he took the bill then you musta took his money first when you stole his idea and thought he plagiarized your thoughts when you actually copied his money... you're just paper before scissors.

>> No.11612979

>>11608221
Ahahaha defend yourself and you have no lawyer. You already lost the debate because I'm actually a lawyer and you only spoke affection for money, not effect in court of law... Yeah, go court money I'll know my laws are only affection for an idea that in principle you stole when you sold it for money. btw I invented you too on your own web app. Have fun being mindfucked for life. Get a doctor too.

>> No.11612985

>>11608221
that webm holy shit what's wrong with these sluts spines...

>> No.11613005

>>11608221
btw the guy in the background in the white shirt gave your idea back when you decided to sell it for money. You don't have a pic of his face... no way you could tell.

>> No.11613009

>>11612603
>t. Faggot

>> No.11613041

>>11608285
>merv.tech
this is seriously cool

i work in social analytics (familiar with the crimson hexagons, brandwatch analytics) and think there's a lot of mileage in these micro-analytics use cases

how long did it take you to make?

>> No.11613172

>>11612483
This. Except for don't threaten to send it to his family and peers. Just send it to them.

>> No.11613380

>>11608221
Speak to ALL THE BEST LAWYERS. This will make them representing your enemy a conflict of interest or whatever

>> No.11613459

Emails are legally binding in many places btw if you have even a single chain discussing

>> No.11613497

>>11609225

unless you're a manlet, the only long way you'll be taking is a trip to jail

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>>11611647
>come back next week
>guy opens the door and invites me in
>'h-hey guy, y-your 40% is on the table
>you walk over to pick it up
>BANG
>you just got shot in the back of the head

>> No.11613719

>>11608246

As always fpbp

Also "accidents" happen very often m8, think about it

>> No.11613976

>>11608221
Public shaming is the way to go, but ask a laywer for advice regarding slander laws.

>> No.11614660

>>11609311
where do i hire people to break legs?

>> No.11614850

>>11608221
Whoop his ass and kick the shit out of him. Do it a few weeks from now so he doesn't have any suspicions. Make sure it's a serious beating.

The only way asswipes like him will learn to not scam people is by getting a good beating. Why do you think Trump is pals with the mafia in NYC?

>> No.11614864

congratulations. you failed at business 101
literally trust no one. ALWAYS get it in writing before doing anything

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>>11608221

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>>11608221
jesus christ

>> No.11615018

>>11608367
Laudible kek

>> No.11615056

>>11608221
>Even though the lawyers told me I'm fucked, I want to fight them.
Dumbass
>I destroy the company through endless litigation
I doubt your autism can even handle regular litigation.
>How do I find an attack dog lawyer who is willing to use any means necessary to take them down?
Let's see
>nothing in writing
>company so there's a very powerful defense that all you do while on company time belongs to the company
Just charge it to experience you tard. Any attorney who will take your case will just milk you and you'll come out for worse.

>> No.11615071

>>11608221
>I have nothing in writing.
if that's the case then you own the code. go at it from a copyright standpoint. he has stolen your IP.

>> No.11615115

>>11608246
None of what these guys said.
Play it cool for a few weeks Keep litigation all the while. Order a hit on him but for real. Have a solid alibi. Find in copyright law in your country if the ip is inherited. Buy it through someone else to avoid suspicion. Do all this away from your house and in a disposable phone you purchased with cash in a store outside your city.
Hope for the best

>> No.11615408

>>11608433

Lol literally the exact same thing happened to me, the 30 percent promise and everything, I had a contract so that was the easiest month of my life, actually was happy they tried to fuck me. If you don’t have anything in writing you can still survive, my contract was actually much less useful than the thousands of emails and client lists I had in writing and in digital form, also called people to corroborate my sales and want not, wasn’t very difficult.

Even if you do get cucked just walk away and keep a good attitude, you fucked up trusting people, but you can always start again, really not that big of a deal, unless we are talking millions on the line.

>> No.11615626

>>11615408
I have hundreds of emails but he was careful to never put anything in writing about what he promised to pay.

>> No.11615745

>>11608221
HOLY FUCK!! MY NOODLE LIKE DIAMOND NOW, WTD?

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This webm is gonna get used every day

>> No.11615816

>>11614981
high heels and corset

>> No.11615925

shalom anons where is this bar sirs i need to spend all BTC to fly DIRECT

>> No.11616967

>>11608221
BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH
This is how she dances when she realizes you hold BCASH

>> No.11617142

>>11608258
Redpill yourself a bit more anon. What you should see is this sad clown hooker trying to attract a alpha cock so he can fill her birth control sterilized vagina up with semen. These people/species uninstall themselves from the universe.

>> No.11617177

>>11617142
INCEL DETECTED.

RED ALERT

INCEL ALERT

HE TOOK THE REDPILL AND NOW CAN ONLY GET OFF TO TRAPS

I REPEAT THIS IS NOT A DRILL

INCEL ALERT

>> No.11618294

>>11615115
Yeah, I'm not going to order a hit man. I'm pretty sure I own the source, but it doesn't help much since I can't acquire the data to run the site without significant upfront capital. These damn data companies are expensive.

>> No.11618544

>>11608221
Hey op I had a verrrryyyy similar situation happen to me. I was around twenty and was able to land a sweet app deal in development through an online friend, who gave me a contact. Long story short, lost just over six figures because like you, nothing was in writing. Unfortunately,also like you, I have no spine and let what, live life. It's unfortunate that he became permanently paralyzed while riding his motorcycle down the usual country hick roads he liked to go down. They never caught the perp either, real fucking shame. Take care op.

>> No.11618628

>>11618294
Tell us what the app is or release the source code anon. Then we can band together and launch our own instance of it and compete with him. Also why not give out who the competitors are. Fuck I would love to have a startup to work on.

>> No.11618845

>>11618544
Sounds like karma got him.

>> No.11619078

>>11617142
Hos are only following their biological programming. They missed every opportunity to pull themselves out of the evolutionary rat race and now that's all they got to get ahead.

Please donate a coffee or a bottle to save a ho in your community.

>> No.11619780

>>11618628
You wouldn't love this one. It's boring af to be honest. The project is just for internal use at corporations.

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>>11611890
Thanks for the sage advice old timer.

>> No.11620489

>>11613706

That's why you have 2 other guys with you, and you keep him and his hands in constant line of sight. Especially his hands.

>> No.11620734

>>11613719
The other anon is right. You fuck someone up like that and let them live and they might just off you.

>> No.11620763

>>11619780
How much do you think you're missing out on in financial terms?

>> No.11620793

>>11608221
>tfw this thread is still up

all i can think of is when they dance like that its just a constant flow of BRRAAAAAAP BRRAAAAP BRAAAP BRAAAP BRAAAAP BRAPPP BRAAAAP BRAAAAAAAAAP BRAAAPP BRAPPPP BRAPPPP

>> No.11620827

>>11608221
>How do I find an attack dog lawyer who is willing to use any means necessary to take them down?

You already know the answer to this.

Hint: Lawyers love money. Money. Money money, money money money. The more you pay, the more you can get a lawyer to lower himself and disrespect laws in order to "fight" for you. They're basically whores.

>> No.11621027

>>11608367
you are the lord of truth anon,These animals can never know.

>> No.11621251

>>11608221
Do you have anything like chat logs or hundreds of copies of the app that you accumulated over every stage of development?

>> No.11621286

>>11608221
Hack your own app and demand ransomware.
>profit.

>> No.11621385

>>11620763
Those who know the situation think I should be owed anywhere from $300k to $600k. I'd say the lower end is more realistic.

>> No.11621400

if you can't watch this on repeat all day you're 1000% GAY. truly an amazing test

>> No.11621767

>>11621251
I have hundreds of emails and the git repo.

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11621793

>didn't build a backdoor into his app to hijack it in case his partner steals it and doesn't pay him
>poasts hot girls with nice backdoors on /biz/ to call attention to his own self-admitted cuckoldry

you done fucked up OP

>> No.11621804

>>11621400
hot girls are hot but you have to be careful about the ones who "love hip hop, rap and r&b", and also the ones who "love to travel, esp to dubai"

>> No.11621810

>>11610914
C U C K

>> No.11621832

>>11621793
saucccce ?

>> No.11621842

is the scammer a jew?

>> No.11622078

>>11617177
he's not wrong though

>> No.11622090

>>11621842
Possibly. Not really sure. His entire family is dumb as shit and entitled though.

>> No.11622185

>>11622090
chevorletdelamort@gmail.com

>> No.11622715

>>11613380
Is it a conflict for just a consultation?

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>>11617142
>birth control sterilized vagina
thats not how vaginas work you dickless basement dwelling loser

here's a redpill.. it's easy and fun to get laid

NOW GO OUTSIDE

>> No.11622907

>>11610742

It seems you are in violation of your NDA, OP. Looks like this guy was smart enough to fuck you and cover all his bases.

>> No.11623138

>>11610123
>demands money
>demands contracts
>doesn't get them
>keeps working anyway

Yeah you deserved this. Don't waste your time on revenge, you don't deserve revenge. You've literally given your work away for free and now you're blaming this guy for taking it. Just go for the minimum wage at the most. It's your fault you have no negotiation skills.

>> No.11623294

>>11608221

>I built a web app

okay. this is $300-$500 on Upwork

>> No.11623331

>>11608221

Actually, github is the answer. It you any good this will be good publicity for you and a disaster for them, assuming you are of any good, of course.

put the sources on github and spam the links to any company which may be interested.