/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>11584535
It’s simple. Kids are great. Wife is not.

you'll regret it either way

>>11584535
Change that to 30 and it's literally me.

the right choice is to leave this board forever

Get rich and have a family with 4 official wives and more women by the side. Women love being part of a harem so you will be fucking happy. One woman marriage is cuuckoldry. Good luck OP

>>11584535
Anyone who says they don't want kids is an extemely shortsighted manchild who is going to have very depressing holidays when they're older.

>>11584535

>If you're white
You should have kids. Raising children is very rewarding and much easier/less expensive than all the normie memes suggest

>If you're brown
Don't fall for the having kids meme

>>11584535
this pic made me feel good, thanks anon. here's to hoping.

>>11584535
It is a really really personal matter. Most will be happier with children some will not. Seek within yourself.

>>11584568
this
talk to old people who don't have kids/grandkids or read some stories from workers at old peoples homes
loneliness for 99% of people is miserable

>>11584535
Wow legit me at 28 minus the "bleeding heart liberal on the inside" thing. As for your question, I've got mixed thoughts. I jump between the 2 all the time, it just kind of depends what I see around me or the kind of day I'm having. I could see myself not having kids but if I happen to meet a qt3.14 and fall in love I wouldn't mind a kid or 2.

>>11584535
All me except being a liberal and crypto.

>>11584535
Both, depending on your partner

>>11584535
People who hold the first opinion will live no descents and will go extinct. Over time, there won't be anyone left holding that opinion. I think this answers your question.

>>11584648
Then why do gays still exist?

People with kids try and make your life just as miserable as theirs any chance they get

Ill fucking truck your stupid snotty nosed kid if he gets in my way in public

>>11584627
That's just called being bipolar.

>>11584568
this. nobody wants to start a family in their late 20's/early 30s because you need to essentially admit you are no longer a kid. But the truth is that you aren't a kid regardless, and by deciding not to, you are basically setting yourself to be lonely and miserable for the rest of your existence on the planet because you passed up on the only real reason you exist, which is passing on your genetic material.

>>11584554

This lol, first time I see one of these memes that is literally me.

>>11584607
This is because people didnt have anything else to do with their lives, guess what? times change and so do the options of the people.
We are in a new interconected world where you can do whatever the fuck you want, travel ? done, Dates, done, Learning about anything you want and start a company, check and done.
The truth is that we have been buying the family meme since 100 yrs ago and it most stop. It only empowers sassy woman and NPC who doesnt know what to do with their life so they have to copy cat this social meme.
If that makes you happy go for it.
If in doesnt, dont do it.
But we are more free than ever, read, study and practice critical thinking, btw everlasting state of happiness is also a meme.
good luck

kek i love these pics

>>11584535
>be 80 and not as rich as you thought you would be
>no kids
>forced to live alone in a govt funded shit hole
>you start losing normal functions
>no one cares
> they feed you shit 3 times a day while you lie in pain
>no one ever visits you you just lie their like govt property that everyone has forgotten.
>some guy makes deliveries every thursday (me)
>as he walks past about 5-10 times you scream out "help"....."kil me"
>the delivery guy (me) cant do anything for you he justs keeps walking
>Haitian lady "caretaker" comes to by to shut you up and feed you pills.
>you lie their alone till you die. while the facility keeps you alive for as long as possible to suck every govmnt dime out of you.
>iwishihadkids.jpg

>>11584722
This

>>11584806
Since fucking when having kids guarantees you will not loose ADL function and end up in that place. Fucking NPCs

My family life has always been and is a terrible mess.
I don't know if I want to have kids or not but I'm 30 and won't rush into something that important when my whole life family has been a wreck.
I don't even know if I can fix things. Probably could just start my own family and make something, but given my track record of bad fortune I'm afraid having a family might not go so well and since having children is the point of no return it could become a nightmare.

I want a qt wife companion to love and a few kids,

To live happy is the only goal, another is more joy filling then a good family

Disregard females, acquire heirs.
Don't fall for the marriage meme! Continue your line and piss off tradcucks and greedy roasties at the same time!

>>11584806
You had 80 years to stop being a poorfag - only yourself to blame if you end up in that situation. And even then, your suffering will be much briefer than that of divorcecucks.

>>11584806
>(me)
Why are you still wagecucking as a delivery man when you're in your mid 70s in this scenario?

>went through a "redpilled" /pol/ phase years ago, now just ignores politics
>still racist though

Holy fuck why is this so accurate

>>11584535
>>11584554
>>11584689

one you should add:

>unironically loves manual labor because he never gets to do it

>>11584954
This. I miss my warehouse job.

>>11584546
fpbp. Kids are fucking cool. You get to watch them figure out how to do everything while you also learn about everything. Wives are retarded though, because their biological imperative to control and protect her kids at the cost of her relationship with you gets turned to 11. The only ways you can make that relationship work are if you're chad of the year on top of your game at all times or a totally emasculated beta cuck.
t. former live-in male nanny for a well to do couple.

>>11584567
>official
Polygamy is illegal in most countries. Even if it were, imagine the divorce rape. I wouldn't mind a nice harem though, if you've got any advice.

>>11584676
Contagious Gene from whores

>>11584607
A lot of people abandon their parents to rot in a nursing home anyways. Nursing homes can be almost prison like with the restrictions they place on patients.

>>11584977
By official I mean the ones you got to parties and all that. You just say to woman directly to have children from you and you will give them X amount of money per month. I have 5 sons and 6 daughters from 5 different woman doing this, all mine proven by dna.

>>11584535
You shouldn't have kids unless you're confident that you can give them a better life than the one you had. Also, if the idea of not always being able to put yourself first really bothers you, then this is also a reason not to have kids.

>>11584535
Depends on the person. I'm 32 and would kms if I had a kid. But I live in NYC and have a high paying career and big social circle. I'm guessing if you live in some little shithole town you have to have kids cuz there's nothing else to do.

>>11584535
>went through a "redpilled" /pol/ phase years ago, now just ignores politics
>still racist though
holy fuck that's me

>>11584546

Mostly this.

Women are like jobs, most of them are bad, but there are some great ones out there. But you have to look hard to find them.

>>11584722
Based. I don't understand how no kids = lonely. You can still date and have friends, nieces and nephews, etc. Plus you have so much more free time to travel, study, start a business, etc. I suppose if you have a shitty job and no social life then sure have some kids but otherwise why the fuck would you do it.

>>11584547
At least with kids there's a slight chance you won't die scared and alone.

>>11584577
Actually this.

>>11584535
>getting life advice from memes and taking shitposts/slide threads seriously
People say shit. There are multiple people. These people are all at different points in life, some have kids and some don't. None of them are you. Only you know the answer because only you are you.

>>11584929
im not in my mid 70's and this isnt just some scenario
>>11584909
it still would suck to be that old with no children to care for you
>>11584835
i never said it would prevent anything. you would however be much more at peace in your old age to to have you children and grandchildren at your side as you die.

>>11585000
I like this idea. What's the going rate? Can you expand a little on how it goes?

>>11585123
i knew a guy that lived to be 96. He got married to some hot blonde when he was young and she walked out on him and took their daughter with her. The daughter turned out to be a lesbian and he ended up outliving his daughter by like 4 years. He would only see her once in a while. He lived totally on his own and did whatever he wanted (drinking, fucking a lot of women) until he was 90. Fortunately, he had a really good job that gave him benefits, a pension, etc so when he started having health problems, he was able to hire a live-in caregiver and he stayed in his house until the day he died. I totally wouldn't mind this timeline desu.

>>11585219
Your fucking npc brain can't comprehend that, having kids alone does not guarantee happiness nor having them by your side when you die or anything for that matter. Stop making elaborate excuses happiness and peace of mind is nothing guaranteed by having kids and not all ppl with kids are happy or whatever other mental construct you wanna point to. You have been brainwashed.

These stupid pics are tthe biggest soi meme on here
OMG DAS ME!!

If you fall for the MGTOW/no kids cuckholdery you’re admitting that you’re a bugman driven by nothing other than consumerism of Jewish products. Imagine having a life so hollow and void of meaning that your existence is defined by posting on faceberg about the latest marvel movie or the latest video game and nothing else.

If you’re brown and live in a white country you shouldn’t fall for the kids meme though.

>>11585326
okaaayyyyyy buddy ill be so happy dieing alone thanks

kids are ok but they're only for rich people

if you have don't have enough cash to spoil your kids don't have them

>>11584568
>>11584607
>>11584685
I'm a millionaire with health problems that had a shit childhood. And shit adulthood until late 20s.

Now tell me why I would ever want kids instead of doing whatever I please and traveling on a whim as I feel like it.

I doubt I would even live to see my kids become adults desu. And I can't even carry 50lbs due to health problems so I can't carry a kid. I also can't run so I could never catch a kid and I know my parents had to catch me when I was little. I've already had a heart attack and sudden cardiac arrest.

I'm also autistic. Even with my bad heath I enjoy my life at 31 years of age. I really don't think I would enjoy having kids as much as I enjoy being a free rich autist.

>not moving to Africa, marrying for women and having 50 kids for $30 a month
Absolute pleb tier

>>11585000

>checked

>>11585251


Please, i too am interested how much of a richfag you need to be in order to do this. Also, were you able to do this with relatively high quality women or did you have to settle for having half ghetto mongrel children.

>>11585634
And I honestly want someone to try to change my mind.

I've considered it before. I could manage it with a full time nanny. But why would I want to?

>>11585639

>willingly breeding 75IQlet children into existence

Aboslute manual labor tier

>>11584535
>>11584554
>is secretly a bleeding heart liberal
never gonna make it

>>11584535
Cucked and basedpilled.

>>11585634
What health problems?

>>11584535
These doomer to bloomer to boomer memes really show me the light and the way and give me the hope to go forward

>>11585704
Get dunked on by my Shaq kids tendie sperglord

>>11585464
I'm brown and going to have kids. Also there's more to freedom than Pop culture

>>11586064
Heart disease, heart failure. Years ago I got hit on a motorcycle and it fucked up my legs, knees, ankle. I can't run or squat or carry too much.

Also a lot of mental disabilities but that's no big deal to me. I really wouldn't want to pass any of those on to my kids though.

>>11585181
>t. faggot

>>11586097

Most africans are manlets (womenlets?) in addition to being brainlets. Basketball players come from strong slave heritage and european admixture. The only thing getting dunked on is your genes.

>>11585634
>>11585669
you've lived a fucking life man jesus christ. I suppose their are some exceptions to the rule, if your lifestyle doesn't match with the whole family thing then it's fine for you to not have kids. but i hope that you're still pursuing relationships, platonic as well as romantic. It can be scary for someone like you to do that because plenty of people will try and take you for a ride for your money, but there's "good" people out there somewhere

>>11586242
Human beings as a species are generally cancer. I’d rather avoid being around them and plan to get away most most all folks when my holdings take off.

Not to be a total fedora tipper, but I’m fairly certain we’re an evolutionary mistake and that the earth would ultimately be better without us around.

>>11585634
F

>>11586162
What happens to your millions when you die?

>>11586301
>I’d rather avoid being around them and plan to get away most most all folks
Same, I did this. I completely severed contact with everyone in my life some years ago. Other than immediate family. It's great.

>>11586242
>plenty of people will try and take you for a ride for your money
That's why I did it. People were always like that to me before I even had much. Now as an added bonus, I don't have to deal with anything from anyone, no drama, no listening to someone about their petty problems. It's lovely.

>>11584535
This pic is mostly me, and it's not really that great of a feel.

>>11586381
I keep most of it in crypto and I always will.
Consider it a coin burn. Lowering the total supply.
You're all welcome :)

>>11586301
>Not to be a total fedora tipper, but I’m fairly certain we’re an evolutionary mistake and that the earth would ultimately be better without us around.

pretty much this. we're stone age apes working with space age tech, i unironically believe that our technology has outpaced our capability to use it properly. I'm just trying to enjoy the ride before either the bombs or the markets drop.

>>11586389
where'd your scrouge McDuck fortune come from if you don't mind my inquiry?

Look into yourself and really think about what you believe is the right option for you. But for the love of god anon, dont EVER unironically ask for advice like this on 4chan ever again.

>>11586416
NPCs will never understand that this true generosity. They genuinely think you just wasted money that could be spent on (((charity))).

>>11584969
lol its almost as if you have to actually be a man to raise a family who woulda thought

"Is actually a bleeding heart liberal in denial"

One day you'll all join the dark side, I still hang out here occasionally. But desu, you were all a tad more fun before it became vogue to worship our cheeto encrusted overlord of a president.

Liberals are super racist too, they're just more subtle about it lads.

With all that said, the boomer memes were top notch chan culture, can't get enough of that shit.

>>11584535
don't trap consciousness into being fleshy debt slaves so you can feel better about your meaningless existence

vs

if you can have the resources to support new life, do it

>>11586419
Crypto. I've been into it for many years. I was always into cryptography even before bitcoin. Cryptography was just one of the few things that fascinated my asperger mind. I miss the old bitcoin community, before there was altcoins. It was a highly intelligent community of nerds. Now I have to shuffle through piles of shit to find useful information.

I autistically invested everything I had from wageslaving and living with family. Everyone though I was stupid. Out of the several dozens of epople I tried to get to invest in bitcoin when it was under $20, no one listened. I never talk about crypto anymore. No one ever listened. In fact I was ridiculed by some.

>>11584577
What if you are white with asian waifu?

>>11586563

>if you can have the resources to support new life, do it

I have, but spent too much time on /pol so options are reduced, and found Christ last year so even fewer options...

Maybe I should just adopt and give a child already here a chance for a better future.

>>11586575
Monero has the highest concentration of non-retards left. IRC has the smartest ones. 'Zero to Monero' is a PDF that goes over the cryptography and how Monero works in really good detail, you might like it.

I didn't invest everything but had the same response from people. The worst was when people wanted to talk about it last year. Spent this entire year disconnected after that.

>>11586766
If you want to give a kid already here a better future the most effective way would be advancing things like space travel, nuclear energy, and cryptocurrency. Gives every kid a better future all at once. Since everyone is just different degrees of genetic relatedness to you it's quite effective.

If you have the genes to make good kids though that would also benefit everyone else as well.

>>11584568
This. Look at all the old leftists who didn't have kids, they are totally miserable now.

>>11584535

it depends on the situation, if you're poor and NEET.
DON'T HAVE KIDS

...

If you have a stable and well paying job.
Have kids.

The formula is simple. Money = ok 2 kids

>>11586766
should be pretty easy to find a woman if you're upfront about wanting a family that you can and will support financially
another criteria for having kids is meeting a woman.
weak men don't breed in nature, which is a kindness not a cruelty. civilization subsidises suffering because it profits off labor

>>11587005
I have met families in rich areas, but the parents are absolute cunts to their kids, while some below the poverty line work they're ass off to keep things running. Sure having money is useful, but it wont guarentee a stable happy family.

>>11584535
Jews: "Don't fall for the having kids meme"
Whites: "You can only be truly happy if you start a family"

>Who is in the wrong here?
Take a guess, OP.

>>11584535
>dont fall for the having kids meme

you can't work forever anon
one day your gonna be 70 and without a family you're FUCKED.

>>11584568
Old people didn't grow up lonely and surrounded by frens on 4chan, lad

I literally don't go to any other websites unless I buy something off eBay. The rest of the world is garbage, family is a drain on the lifeforce and 3d friends are never truly unchained like Anon.
I'm never leaving, despite how many traps have flooded this place

>>11584568
Kids are for people who aren't as ugly and weird as me I think

>>11584676
Gays have a virus it's not genetic

>>11584535
>be outcast jaded incel
>go outside for groceries
>see a ~7 year old girl helping her grandma shop and asking questions
>warm feeling I've never felt before surges in my heart

is this the equivalent of "biological clock ticking" for males? i want a daughter!

>>11584535
pretty much me except
>bleeding heart liberal on the inside

>>11584535

Pic rel sounds like an absolute fag

>>11586629
Enjoy your hellspawn
Read up on Eliot Rodgers, Kalergi and EurasianTiger

>>11584535
Everything is fine about that picture except the bottom right text. Get rid of it.

>>11585634
Research Andrew Saul Megadose Vitamin Therapy.

Don't have kids. Extremely immoral to make a child suffer with bad genetics.

>>11585464
If you're racemixed with bad genetics, it's immoral to have a child suffer with your diseases.

Only have kids if youre rich and can give them a good life without them having to wagecuck, otherwise youre just making more miserable people and slave labor for shlomo

Gentle reminder roasties eat your life force.

>>11588668
>Kalergi and EurasianTiger
What the fuck are these? Is there really no way to have a normal hapa kid

>>11584931
Because you’re an idiot. Unironically. The /pol/ group think is just as retarded as the far the left.

>>11584554
29

>>11588993
True, only goodthinking is what´s the truth. Everything on /pol/ is crazytalk, full of nazis and north korean trained russian trolls, dont believe a word ok!
NOT
A
WORD
or you be just as bad as the people on the left and you don't want that do you now?
Okay good, now get back to your study or continue to climb the ladder of that wage-career you hold so dearly. Oh and make some kids ye bastard, these boomers are dying off and I need fresh blood for my company. Work hard, send them to school to so they too can become an asset like you. Thanks go..ehh..guy, you're a good lad and I'm sure you going to make it. YEAH

>>11585464
Imagine living a life so boring and hollow you are willing to flush your dreams, hobbies and finances down the toilet to marry a used up roastie that has a 40-50% chance of divorcing you and taking your kids anyway.having kids for the sake of kids is the ultimate NPC move. Take your “save muh white race!” Shit to /pol/ nigger. If you are truly happy with yourself and don’t mind being alone don’t have kids just to fit in with society, if you want kids and can afford to raise them and have a decent spouse go for it. You aren’t going to catch up with shitskins breeding by memeing autists on 4chan to have kids.

>>11584547
This is the correct answer.

>>11584648
>implying an opinion is genetic

>>11584568
Kek.
>He thinks his kids will be around for every holiday when they get older.

Have fun feeling EXTRA sad when no one shows up to your Christmas dinner in 14 years from now when Jared is 21 and Jessica is 18. Don't kill yourself.

>>11584607
You know what's worse? Your kids putting you in a home because they don't want to change your fucking diapers anymore.

>>11584535
minus the lifting weights part and the heartbleeding liberal thing this pic describes me pretty well

the thing i dont like about having kids isnt that the mother gets retarded after having them or the kids could be troublesome, is that now you are forced to interact with other parents, with school and all that social shit, i hate that, your kids get brainwashed by society andr i guess what power do i get over them, being a father is just an honorary title, you can do everything ok and get hated by them anyways

>>11584685
No. I'm mid 30s and have passed up having kids a few times with wonderful women. Best decision I ever made. I've been traveling the world for the last two years doing incredible things. Things that never would have happened had I had a kid. I'd be slowly dying inside because I'd be wagecucking. You know why? Because I wouldn't have taken any chances to improve my life to the point it it is now because I'd feel guilty if it failed and I couldn't provide for my kid. I'm literally fearless now, instead of a sad, sheltered wagecuck doing something I hate to provide responsibly for a child. This happens to so many people. Then they just become dreamers. It's quite sad really and makes the world a grey place.

>>11588932
Keanu had a kid tho

>>11589602

How do you get money?

>>11584535
People not wanting kids are mentally ill and are actually both failing their ancestors (beginning with the most elementary micro-organism that lived eons ago) and failing at life.
The main purpose of your existence is to transmit your genome to the next generation, the rest is coping with what's in between.

>>11589602
Men can delay having kids way up in the 60s, in fact it's wise to NEVER marry a woman of your age because:
1) she is either not fertile anymore (since you are 35+)
2) you didn't get a woman matching your peak SMV (basically you married before 30)

Best matching for a couple is a men over 30s and a woman under 25.

>>11589696
Why do incels think they're qualified to talk about women or families?

>>11584535
Anything that gives my life some meaning or challenge would be great. It is a dull endless repetition of last week over and over again. Fucking kill me man

>>11589649
Taking chances on higher risk money making assets. Things I wouldn't be doing if I had kids.

>>11584535
People hate family when they have a shit family, love family when they have a good family.

You're getting advice from different people with different experiences.
I'm trying to be unbias but honestly it's hard to defend the No kids view, once you get old, there is something about settlind down into earth and allowing new life to grow, our body is designed to reproduce and there is something rewarding about watching your kids grow. It might be the most powerful chemical combination in our body, just like fear can be overpowering and affect our mind, same happens with having kids for a lot of people.

Imagine an emotion so strong you immediately feel willing to give your life for this baby. that's greater than the love for your wife or parents.

>>11589717
Change what you are doing. It will be tough and sad and not comfy at times, but you will grow and morph into who you want to be. If you feel dead inside and years are slipping away from you, change everything. There's nothing to lose. No one cares what you do.

>>11584535
Almost got me.

Having kids is the most NPC thing you can do.
Waste of time and money.
And no, they wont help you when you will be old. They wont give a shit, lol.

>>11589712
Found the triggered roastie

32, currently flirting (and occasionally fucking) with 19-22 fresh and full of life college student girls (probably going to go LTR with one of them), laughing my ass off when I heard the salty gossips that a 30 yo single cunt is making up on me at work since I ignored her pathetic attempt at "seduction".

Nothing triggers a woman more than making her realize that she is past her peak and you aren't going to be her money making beta chump.

>>11589801
Virgin detected
I bet you read PUA books

>>11589766
sure they will, just make sure you got enough money for a worthwhile inheritance and then they wont cross you

>>11589863
>"Virgin"
>shaming tactics
>weak and uncreative comeback
Typical hag, think about me next time your hormones makes you hear the "tic toc" of your biological clock, pro-tip: it ain't going to be better, better hurry before to catch the nearest beta before menopause triggers your cat lady evolution.

>>11589863
There is literally nothing wrong with being a virgin lol.

>>11589966
>makes you hear the "tic toc"

quick Q, wtf is this tik tok nonsense happening in /wsg?

>>11584535
That pic makes me think I'm generic. I'm 24.

>>11590400
4chan is in majority millennial white men with fringe beliefs and a weird attraction to brutally honest discourse with anonymous strangers that they are never going to meet in real life (and even if they did they would not know it).
There is nothing surprising you identify with a meme created by someone else on this website.

>>11590365
It's some shitty app where people record themselves repeating what better people have done. Once a girl puts out a few she gains a following of autists who are determined to take her virginity and reply to you as if it's guaranteed to them

>>11584577
this

>>11589485

>So this is the fabled NPC short term thinking horizon in action
>Notice how the automoton only processes information as if it's circumstances in the present will continue in perpetuity
>It gladly gives up genetic immortality for base pleasure in the near term

>>11589696

Based

>>11587556
If you dont have kids and haven't made it by like 50 you should unironically just neck yourself because you are a retard. It is so easy to get rich if you don't have a bunch of brats depending on you for everything.

>>11588982
Of course there is. I could give you thousands of examples of pure white people that are fucked up. But if you are even considering listening to 'muh racemixing' neckbeard /pol/fags then you're too stupid to reproduce.

>>11589669
>caring about what happens after you die
Cope central. I'm sure your ancestors that died a thousand years ago are in heaven looking down and are so proud of their neckbeard faggot spawn. Adam and Eve themselves in fact, because that's what you hillbillies actually believe top fucking kek. Can you imagine being this retarded?

>>11584547
this. take it from me, ive fucked over 100 bitches and fell for the marriage meme. had a kid, wife turned into a massive bitch. happily divorced and dont even think about women now. theyll literally destroy your life.

>>11584535
bleeding heart liberal whos racist? lol go fuck yourself fagit