/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>11582544
yall ever had dr pepper bbq sauce?

>>11582564
no but I've had ribs cooked in pepsi its greater than pussy

NVDA never under 200 again?
Ford bankrupt?
Bottom?

Did Growth Tech bulls win and the golden ride back on track?

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>>11582569
GE in death rattle. The dividend was the only reason people bought & held it

>>11582577
No, tech will keep bleeding out. Rest of mkt has a chance at a bottom here but will be weighed down by (((FAANG)))

>>11582579
Dont you want your penny anon?

WHAT TO BUY AS A DIVIDEND PORTION OF MY PORTFOLIO NOW THAT GE IS KILL

also why buy divvys when growth produces more money lmao its like just buy SPY QQQ SSO QLD brehs

reminder that we are in bulls trap now

reminder that bear market is around the corner

reminder that orange bad man

FAANG booming
Large specs are in

>>11582602
Yeah if the share price hits $1

CAN'T KEK THE ZUCK LMAO

>>11582594
Facebook after hours is positive and Apple will crush earnings. FAANG stabilized.

>>11582619
I hope other people got the cheapies. Such a fake and gay correction.

>>11582628
Will fade. Prices still too high

>>11582544
>Back over $4,6XX
Well it's better than yesterday, but the market still owes me at least another $1000 or so

Fuck you ((them)) for using the market for midterms shenanigans

>>11582603
Visa

THE CORRECTION IS OVER

BUY BUY BUY

>>11582651
market is going to be crazy green $$$ tomorrow

>>11582662
YES

futures blowing up green

Everyone is long with cheapies right?

>>11582684
I'm ready for red or green fren

buying the dip feels

thanks to s o y hands

>>11582684
haha,y-yea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaF9pXj7isg

>>11582702
>id: Dab
rally initiated

How much does morality effect your investments?

Would you invest in a tech company like apple but not a military 'defense' company or pharmaceutical company, do you draw a line?

Bullpoop

>>11582731
0% I'd invest in a company that made it's money pumping aids into orphanages if I thought it was going to the moon

>>11582748
based and redpilled. it's a dog-eat-dog world, if i don't take the gains then somebody else will

waymo on public california roads with no drivers

The great golden bull run is here

hope you are allocating into narrow AI or genetics.

>>11582646
Visa pays 84 cents a year with current stock price of $130? what the fuck

>>11582765
>he only looks at yield
Never gonna make it.

question to dividend people

why not just buy a IV company and sell covered calls for steady income?

THREADLY REMINDER THAT DIVIDENDS ARE YOUR FREN

What ever happened to the DRUS CRUISE™ shills? It's at a tenth of where I thought of buying in lol, guess I dodged that one

>>11582736
>RKG posted
>domp eet

>>11582788
Let it be a lesson
Never listen to biz shills

>>11582789
why, exactly?

>get $1 dividend on a share of SPY
right now, i could get a better return with treasury bills

>>11582787
i know nothing about covered calls nor do I have the time throughout the day to actually time trades. i basically just find companies I believe are undervalued and produce a solid dividend or have solid dividend growth and put my money in and hopefully I'll never have to take that money out.

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>>11581195
Thanks for the help last thread guys. I'll be dumping 50% into these and 50% NOBL for a long time every September.

>>11582731
I refuse to buy ZN, AT&T, EA, Comcast because I want them to go out of business, but other than that not really for moral reasons alone

I imagine if I was vegetarian or vegan I'd avoid investing in KFC (YM) or Tyson foods

Also BA instead of Airbus because patriotism

>>11582787
Because I have no idea what any of that means. I just know that dividends are like a savings account, but better. And that they are my friends.

>>11582821
i don't use SPY or ETFs who's dividends fluctuate each pay period.

I use companies that grow over time. right now my current average yield is 3.3 percent but my actual yield is 5.6% due to dividend growth. my goal is to get that up to 10% through dividend growth of the companies I own.

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>>11582832
thats a damn good start to a portfolio right there

>>11582845
what do you mean by this

>>11582837
Well you buy 100 of a big stock, sell calls, and wait. You are basically making money off giving other people leverage while also getting any growth under the strike price.

I don't know the math on it vs dividend stocks though but it seems better since dividend stocks are boomer-tier.

>>11582787
Dividends are your friends, options are soulless
I want to feel Cocacola paying me

>>11582859
google "SPY dividend" then google "JNJ dividend" and look at the dividend history of payments. you'll notice one is sporadic (spy) and JNJ is straight increasing its dividend year after year for decades

>>11582845
very interesting, thanks for sharing.

do you mainly invest in blue chip companies or look for smaller companies with higher dividend ratios?

>>11582787
>>11582787
Taxes
D.R.I.P'S

And the implications

>>11582544
Buy something that pays fixed dividends and is relatively cheap. Check the divident to stock price ratio now in comparison with the 5 years average. If it's bigger than the average, buy. If not, don't buy, simple as that.

>>11582878
my main core divvies are KO, PG, JNJ, T, PFE and AAPL.

I've got some higher yield like O, IRM, DOC and some real low yield like V, MSFT and LOW, but those are high growers. I'm mostly investing for the growth of the dividend instead of just yield. But there's something psychological about getting 7% of your money back every year

>>11582902
I have a savings account with Discover for the same reason. Getting paid interest by a credit card company gives me a stiffy.

>>11582731
Zero. I follow CASH
Morality matters only if it can hurt shareholder value.

>>11582892
how do you track such a thing is there a average dividend/share price filter on tradingview or similar

>>11582731
I only short ISPs and healthcare (not including pharma/biotech, more just insurance companies).

That's just out of personal disdain.

Since I can't buy US ETF's I'm thinking about buying mosly big dividend stocks and just hold them and buy at dips. I'm signed for a world index fund at my bank but I think it's pretty shitty to most US ones.

>>11582858
I'm a really conservative 20-something and that will be the end to the portfolio as well. Unless something drastic comes up with these companies like what happened to GE I'll be death gripping and accumulating the next 30+ years.

>>11582902
NLY is really nice. Some other anon showed me those guys. I have a lot of GECC right now as well and they pay monthly at 10% which is cool.

NASDAQ futures up biggly. Many green days ahead? Planning to spend all my cash tomorrow as I get in for rebound.

Also, rate my shittier portfolio. Anything you would sell? I don't want to because I made so much losses on most lol so I hope eventually I atleast break even.

>>11583028
Bears have been defeated this day.

>>11583028
I'm not convinced it isn't a bulltrap, but I did buy some Jan/March aapl/msft calls today.

>>11582832
>msft
>not fb

Have you even been watching the news recently?

>>11583072
FB will myspace in 10-20 years I think. Seems like a fad company and the trend doesn't seem good last I checked. 0 dividends as well is a dealbreaker for me, otherwise I'd have berkshire on the list.

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>>11582662

BBT is a massive sleeper hit for those chasing dividends. They’re at $1.62/3.39% now.

It’s been up and down TTM but if you’re after fixed income I think it’s one of the best that goes under the radar.

>>11583118
Don't @ me, LARP tranny.

>>11583028
Mildly pissed DOW hasn't hit 52 week low. That was my limit price for UDOW but it never filled >:(

>>11583172
give it till next tuesday lad...

>>11583172
Why do you specifically want to buy there so bad? If we hit that it seems like we're more likely to be fucking devestated

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>>11582641
short sell barrick gold stock

>>11583259
this is ganna be a YIKES and a cringe from me

>>11582627

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>11583259
quite a hollow (you), I don't rate it.

>>11583259
I'm holding onto my 100 shares of ABX

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>>11583268
you all retarded short sell barrick gold

>>11583259
why? Canada is collapsing due to inflation and the US isnt far behind under trumps leadership.
Gold is inevitable
You fools who know nothing about gold just dont get it. When Nixon removed us from the gold standard because the US printed more dollars than gold, gold had to account for that. The response? Gold went from 25 dollars to 800 in 10 years. You fools do not understand gold is rising in price as we speak. The even that will make it revalue itself and account for all the paper money that was printed is almost here. Imagine not having any gold or silver then kek.

>>11583302
>owning gold stock
you should own gold.

>>11583259
Why?

>>11583325
YOU DARE QUESTION THE SILVER SHILL?

>>11583283
Me to, I'm holding on to my Barrick gold for 15 years at minimum. They recently acquired this other gold company who's stock is like in the $70 range. Hell of a bargain, the worlds largest gold mining company for only $13 per. They mine other shit to not just gold. Profit profit profit!

>>11583433
I'll be interested to see what their earnings are for 2018.

>>11583433
You better be baiting

>>11583433
Bought 326 shares of ABX today, and waiting on my employee match.
The kicker is I cant sell the matched shares.

After all the others they gave me plus the current match I should be sitting at nearly 360 shares.

So a total of 686 shares total, should I sell my 326 shares or should I hold em?

black pill me on Barrick. TA only no fundamentals

>>11583302
>fed has been quantitative easing for 10 years
>this is trumps fault.

I unironically hope the market crashes so my pay and local economy increases all while dumping more money into my 401k and portfolio on plentiful cheapies.

>>11583513
Canadas inflation problem isnt going away lol
Neither is the US for that matter.
The Dollar will fail, Trump will print us into oblivion to finance his jewish wars
Every time congress passes a budget, we get closer and closer to economic collapse.
Its like this, the middle class get poorer everytime they print money, because they steal money from the tax payers through inflation on top of income and property tax. so congress passes a budget, you get poorer. trump bombs syria, you get poorer. the thing is the middle class cant get much poorer before there is no middle class. the end is nigh.

>>11583542
>I unironically hope the market crashes
Have you been in a coma all of October? The crash is through and the buying opportunity is now (yesterday actually).

>>11583545
Nigger I work for a gold mine in the middle of nowhere, ill have a job and food if your doomsday scenario comes true.

why did the futures get scared? Tomorrow is raining green.

>>11583560
Lol no, im talking the kind of crash that sends gold back to 1800+ dollars an oz.

I still wish my money wasnt tied up in this Barrick Employee match so I could have bought more GM T PG etc.

Why is the market afraid LMAO

the bears are done

zerohedge will be closed down by executive order

gold will be confiscated and turned into bull statues

it's ogre

>>11583569
Fed meeting still coming nov 7 goyim..

>>11583585
yeah to announce dovish futures since election year is over lmao

expect a crazy pump

>>11583569
BOJ is about to start the Nikkeibot
Pump in 1 hour

>>11582748
Holy fuck same here

>>11583598
It's funny how they pumped up FB. Talking about currency issues and how they really beat rev

apply that to other companies and you see the reality of "misses"

>>11583596
>Trumps economy improves
>Fed raises rates
>Rinse repeat
After the red wave the market will bounce back for sure, but the fed will still increase rates until they break him. You cant beat the Fed. You would need to remove all the jewish influence from our banking system.

>>11583619
They will slow it down until 2020 election year, 2019 we get a break from the manipulation

do brainlets unironically not understand the point of raising interest rates to curb inflation and debt accumulation during expansionary periods

>>11583663
make it an algorithm

there is a reason they kept it full QE and full no interest during obama

>>11583663
do idiots like this guy not understand the fed creates inflation in this economy by printing money? do you have a functioning brain sir?

89% of the time the market goes way up after a midterm election. bluewave or not, it's gonna be green.

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>>11583681
SPX 2900 by christmas

>>11583680
inflation is necessary in a debt fueled society

Looking at my holdings and I'm thinking about selling some of it and reinvesting the proceeds in my other positions after I setup my Target 2050 fund. Reason is I've got so little tied up in the market that the "payoff" is spread to thin, would take a massive gain in all my holdings to really see any profit over the next 30 yrs.

Now some of the stocks are frankly "bait", I'm hoping Amazon will take them over thus I gain Amazon shares (hell even a partial share) for chump change. Others have a good chance of actually seeing some massive profit come down the pipe if the drug results are good (Amarin Corporation).
I'm gonna wait till December, see what the market looks like then, see how well my stocks are doing and cull them down at that point.

Least I didn't do like some fools and dump my entire savings in the market, that just leads to ruin frankly. If I wake up one day and see it all gone, well, It'll hurt, but I won't be in the shit if it does.

If you guys want to learn monetary policy, history, and more interesting stuff, check out Mike Maloneys Youtube series Secrets of Money, especially episode 4 where he explains the fed in great detail. His new episode 10 is about to come on live :
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiCKf7hfagk

>>11583618
ad revenue growth gets more substantial
This seems to be the main FUD point, less users and bots, but ad revenue and statistics of growing worldwide users shows against this... so FB 200

I dunno, some say that G.E is fucked and you should sell it. Others maintain that G.E is a steal and you should buy. Rational is that G.E will recover and you'll see gains. So I dunno.

NVDA a buy now?

>>11583859

>he's going to fall for the bulltrap

>>11583871
What if it's a bear trap?

>>11583874

>green day after days of bleeding

I don't think you understand what a bear trap is

>>11583874
What if it's a trap trap?

>>11582544
Goat sauce

>>11583563
>doomsday
>gold
That is going to taste great anon

>>11583897
Then it's gay

>>11583906
>we can print money forever
how many defaulted african currencies do i need to show you to understand the inevtiable future anon?
the prince of zimbabwe needs your help

That was some crazy shit today. Markets started high, started to drop, crashed though the floor just before market closing and shot up after hours.

My patience with Facebook seems to have finally paid off, assuming tomorrow doesn't undo all this.

Amarin Corporation will release quarter earnings tomorrow. Be interesting to read and see how well the stock does after the fact. I hope its good news. So much potential profit is on the line with this. 2 billion in drug sales if the drug passes the tests

>>11583929
My point anon is not that gold isn't a great safehaven during an economic downturn. The other anon was referring to an economic collapse during which gold, being only useful in conductivity, too plyable to make anything useful with and heavy as fuck will have next to no value. You would be better off investing in seeds.

Guys i plan on buying MSFT for the next 2 years for dividends. should i instead drop my paychecks on something else with more potential?

MSFT looking pretty good for the next couple of years

Anyone else think that C is super undervalued? I'm kind of wary to get in right before the midterms though.

Short the VIX. We've reached the bottom.

>>11584044
Yes, so is BK and BAC
but watch xlf for a good entry point... I think its now

>>11584080
Wouldn't we be fucked getting in now though if Dems take Congress?

>>11583859
nvda good
bear bad

>>11584032
So's Apple, so hell get both. or get the VTI ETF. Then you'd get both a wide range of Growth and Dividend stocks all in one go. or if you want something that you buy and "let it roll" for 30 years go with the Vanguard 2050 fund. You can still invest more in each as you wish over the years.

>>11584130
My problem is that I've got to many "stakes" My money is to spread out to really do any good unless all my stocks just gain like crazy for 30 yrs. So I'm gonna cull the lot back down to maybe 4 or 5 and dump the proceeds back into them.

>>11584098
I dont know, what are you implying would happen exactly

>>11584201
The markets will obviously dip because Dems taking Congress means an end to Trump's expansionary fiscal policy. The "correction" we saw wasn't a correction at all so much as equity holding till this election to see what happens since it's a toss-up. Banks seem like the worst possible place to put money if Dems win, but also the best if Reps hold them off.

>>11584098
>dems cant pass anything (they'll win house, but not senate)
>trump can't go full retard on foreign policy as easily
>gridlock is bad

>>11584274
>correction is because of people scared of dems
so you are a retard

That was a great episode of Secrest of money. Hope you watched.
Even if you dont believe in gold, you should still learn about monetary history.

>>11584274
The upcoming G20 meeting where Trump and Jinping will sit down will have more impact than the dems retaking the house. Imo the market already thinks the dems will retake.

>>11583859
google "stock bubble charts" and compare that to NVDA. now tell me again if you should buy NVDA.

>>11584287
I didn't say gridlock was bad, I said that Trump's on-the-whim perpetual expansionary fiscal policy is preferable to the markets than nothing happening at all.

>correction is because of people scared of dems
I said the opposite of this you stupid fuck, learn how to read.

>>11584366
>Imo the market already thinks the dems will retake.
You think that's what the correction was?

>>11584395
Did you miss the 40% drop?

>>11584454
>You think that's what the correction was?
I do but I also believe there was some overvaluation, specifically in tech. I also think we could still see some further declines if they retake because of the risk of an impeachment. So basically more of a hedge than a full on correction but a strong hedge.
Despite this removing the unknown provides stability and improves investor confidence historically regardless of midterm results and so for me the big hinge is US China trade.

>>11584336
What are you talking about? Hidden secrets of mone - mike Malone?

>>11584540
yep, he makes great easily digestible content.
and hes irish, not a kike.

Bank of Japan is in

China pumping next
Yup, thats a green day

>>11584525
>the risk of an impeachment.

Oh fuck off with that. Dems have nothing. They have been trying super hard to push the Russian interference angle for two years now and have brought exactly zero material evidence of such a thing to the table. /pol/ engaged in more propagandist memery during the election than imaginary boogie man russian hackers did.

Fuck should I go for that VTI ETF? Fidelity has one commission free called ITOT and they're quite similar in holdings.

>>11584649
If /pol/ can exert influence on world history and politics, why can't /smg/ game the stock market?

Broke up with my girlfriend today lads, did I fuck up?
>it's because she's not white

>>11584678
are ETFs even real?

I bought in a small stack of 5 TSLA shares after Musk took a hit of the joint, I've made a comfy few hundred dollars since the price shot back up (anyone with a brain knew this would happen).
Do I sell now and buy back later, or HODL? Huge believer in the company and the man himself.

>>11584592
You doubted after today? Bears were ready for a feast but got slaughtered themselves. An embarrassing performance fitting for the end of a correction.

>>11584649
I know but its the fact that they will have the power to initiate the process that could muck things up.

Are we going to make it guys???

>>11584750
no

>>11584750
Last night's weaksauce pump wasn't enough to break the downtrend.

>>11584592
Short America Long Nihon

zzzzz now I have spare money to gamble but all these stocks are still more expensive than Feb and March's corrections

the way you guys were whining over the past week, i thought it was going to be 2008 again.

>held until today
>finally folded and sold
>literally everything jumps after hours
welp

If the Dems take the house, I suppose the bear will be back next wed?

Just a friendly reminder the Fed is scheduled for a huge balance sheet dump tomorrow . Biggest all year.

Happy Haloween!

>>11582788

>One letter off from ruse cruise

What did you expect? You could become a billionaire by short-selling everything that gets memed on /biz/.

>>11583680
debt is screwy but the only reason our GDPr goes up so quickly yoy is because of debt-fueled investment and government deficit spending

so basically your whole livelihood and all gains you get from stock market are due to debt-fueled economics

holy shoot can millennials buy this dip ANY harder?
there is no way wall st about to give everyone with the robinhood app a free lambo so easily

>>11584755
am i a degenerate if i enjoyed that show

also guys is the market gonna be green tomorrow

>>11584814
Depends on the hill banter. Opposition to the new nafta deal, or if they take 2/3rds of the house(not sure if even possible), which is required to initiate an impeachment process would be bad.
The nafta deal wont hit congress for 6 months and is going to be tricky anyway so i dont think its that impactful, usually they can put it in an omnibus bill and give some pork to individual congressmen to get people on board.
Again I think it comes down to china and feds.
Today yellin said if equities were to get too beat up they would rethink the quantitative tightening which was part of what we saw today and really pretty good news overall for the bulls.

>>11583929
as long as our production keeps going up we can keep printing money with no negative consequences

that's why target inflation is just below the average GDPr growth...

>>11584939
For Non-Asian markets, either the FED stop the rates hike or Trump ends the trade war.
Doesn't look like either would happen

>>11584920
> tfw bulltards
> AI bots trading against you.
> Robinhood selling all your order information to whales to move the market against you.

>>11584934
Some anon had some evidence that the fed was going to keep raising rates until the s&p 500 hits 2400ish. Expect another -10% in the index then a big rebound.

>>11584695
bullshit you've never had a gf

>>11584920
2800 November

>>11584934
Bottom was yesterday.

Amazon dipped down to $1498 today. I hope people took advantage. Still to pricey for the average joe though to get in. I hope it splits soon.

clean coal anon where are you?

>>11584840

I GIVE UP

>>11584946
No way they take 2/3rds of house even their own most optimistic analysts are not calling for that

Personally, I think they will narrowly lose regaining control at all and initiate a massive multi-month long reeeeeeeeeeing spree

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>>11584967
That's what some analysts thought it would have to fall to before Powell gave up hikes.

It won't fall that far for now. Maybe 2019 late.

>>11584366
>Imo the market already thinks the dems will retake
So when they fail the bull market is back on?

SPY, QQQ, SSO, QLD

what else should I buy

name me 10 blue chippers that will actually exist and make top tier gains for 20 years, so NO GE THOSE NERDS

>>11585110
If this happens i see a huge bull run. One thing is for sure, Im not going through this crap again in 2020 election, im parking my money in June and not doing a fucking thing til mid Nov.

>>11585138
I'm betting big on it if it happens.

>>11585140
Apple, Disney, T, MS for starters

>>11585140
Hey friend I just kind of did that shit myself.
>>11582832
Lurk /smg/ this weekend I'm doing a competitive analysis on all 10's top competitors like the fucking autist I am and will post it since anon helped me get the list together.

>>11585156
Yeah if the fed bankers arent dead and gone by 2020 that's a good ass plan my nigga cause it can be assumed they will do this shit again and again

So let's assume this is happening and the beginning of a bull run starts. Whats gonna take off the hardest? US Steel recover perhaps (but maybe not)? What else?

>>11585179
I really like Disney too.

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>>11585185
also I think you have way too many ETFs. Choose 1 or 2. I went with 50% NOBL.

New Age Farms could be the next "Sleeper" stock. It hits all the buttons you want a Pot company to be in. Drinks, Growing, Selling, even I think making Vape like things only with pot.
The best part? The stock is only 6 cents. You can buy 500 shares for $35-40. It can't really sink any lower so your investment is pretty safe. Just think; even if it hits just $1 you've made $500 profit. Minus the $40, you'd clear $460.00. But say it hits $10, your profit is now at $5000.00. So much profit, so little investment.

>>11585186
Im just thinking s&p got hit hardest. There is a lot of value there and I really need to look hard at the losers.

>>11585239
You're getting caught in penny stock logic. Just because the amount of a share is tiny doesn't mean it will moon that easily. Sometimes you lose all what you've invested.

>>11583859
Buy and then sell after the deadcat bounce because there will be a continuation of the bear market.

>>11585549
We're at "fear"

Bulltrap or is it over?

>>11582788
Out-of-control dilution. I think all the pumpers on ihub became disillusioned too.

>>11585565
Bull trap

>>11585549
Bears want to believe so hard.

>>11585017
Amazon is ripe with cash and may take over something soon, so maybe buy movie studio stock like Lionsgate or ecommerce like etsy.

idiot here, can someone explain when to buy a stock to collect the dividend
like i get that it has to be before the ex date but I saw someone saying that you have to buy it exactly 1 day before?

>>11585110
How can we profit if a red wave happens?

>>11585650
I already got those. Cheap way to get Amazon stock. Plus hell I like Lions Gate. The Voting Shares especially

Just observing. Let me know what you think

>>11585659
Yeah, you gotta give it time to be entered in the brokerage system, then sent up the chain to the company who owns the stock (I think)

>>11585665
Long pharmaceutical, rope companies and funeral homes.

>>11585565
No were at bull trap, tomorrow starts fear. Buy sqqq

>>11585688
do the same for february 2018

>>11585711
look at the chart, it barely went below 200MA, not enough to matter

>>11585711
February's movement isn't relevant at this point, it bounced off the 200MA as support, this trend has clearly broken below it (6%)

so, is tomorrow red or green?

>>11585764
Green, but less than today

>>11585764
Depends mostly in these earning reports

Another possibility is it bottoms here and just stays in this upward channel with more volatility up to 3000 area, after that presumably a third correction and beyond that anyone's guess. Would put us right on time for a 2020 recession as is the common expectation

>>11585799
Me am hoping CHK does good earnings ;_;

>>11585688

Still due for a bounce before the second wave of bearish weeks. Bounce should peak out at a hair above 2800, then the flush out to bottom floor of wherever this is going. However, I still think this dip is not a proper bloodletting like 2016 was. It's all fear and uncertainty. No meat. Slightly missed earnings from a few blue chippies, fed causing trouble; that's not enough. Something pretty dire about the economy would have to come out to really scare the dip buying bulls away.

No Dow reports tomorrow so should stay relatively flat. I hope.

Lol at anyone buying this market. Rookies.

>>11585870

I expect tech to go green on Facebook passable earnings results and good earnings from Apple. The dude weed is actually primed for an upwards wave in to bull trap or new highs. I'm leaning towards bull trap lower high on the dude weed.

>>11585885

I think we're about to see about three solid weeks of heavy green, anon. Rumblings this week and then hit the turbo boost after midterms.

>>11585697
and wine companies

>>11585695
but is it okay to buy -anytime- before the date?

>>11585885
lmao at anyone that fucks with major indices or anything tied to them. Normies

reminder that the dow is going to 100k

>>11585908
>I think we're about to see about three solid weeks of heavy green, anon. Rumblings this week and then hit the turbo boost after midterms.
I think we're gonna have an up and down week and then another downer next monday in a desperate hope to cause chaos before the midterms followed by one of three things
>dems win house, bear market is on
>republicans narrowly maintain house, market stays flat until people hear more news possible slow/reasonable return to growth ahead
>red wave occurs, bull market triggers

hoping for #3 and trying to figure out what to buy in expectation of it

This is ford

https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/30/business/sears-share-repurchase/index.html

>>11585939
Yes.
Most dividends are annualized and paid quarterly causing the price to rise sligjtly before the ex-dividend date. The fact that you are the new share-holder still means you are a part owner of that company and entitled to be paid out. You will pay a premium if you buy the day before.

How do I stop my retarded roommate from losing all his money with retarded options calls? I personally don't care about his financial wellbeing except for the fact that he needs to pay rent.

>>11585991
thank you based anon

>>11585990
thats an interesting article.. some companies do share buybacks and it helps greatly especially a year or 2 after funding.. really odd that occured. Wonder what their plans were after the buy back? guessing they just got hit hard during the recession?

>>11586010
He litterly needs to quit if he is loosing on options right now. Anyone whos still trading for the past fucking month Should have enough money to buy the entire house.

>japan and china mooning
>futures green

BUT BUT MUH FED. MUH 30 BILLION. I thought today was supposed to be the giant crash to end the world? When will bears admit they don't know what they're talking about?

>>11582544
will any of you guys invest in Air bnb when it IPO's hopefully next year? how about uber or lyft?

>>11586096
Id love to invest in airbnb but it really depends on how much$$$ they are once they go live.

>>11586010
>investing without having 6 months of living expenses put to the side + emergency fund (could be credit card)

ISHYGDDT

>>11586083
Cant wait for my green ass day tomorrow

Small specs be damned

>>11586133
Theres a difference between value investing and yoloing options like that retard does
He's obsessed with "making it" while working at fast food and uploading retarded youtube videos with shit advice

>>11584579
>yep, he makes great easily digestible content.
>and hes irish, not a kike.
Hmmm..... You do realise the Irish infiltrated America and took over their policing and monetary system.
Just look at how many Irish were federal reserve heads or "aids" to the US president

>>11586133
>he doesn't have his entire life savings + line of credit + margin on exclusively meme shit stocks

Never gonna make it.

>>11586167
Even then you should have your bases covered.

I have friend that is obsessed with "making it" and watches all these youtube videos with shit advice. Seriously, sounds just like him. He works minimum wage jobs and myself and his family were telling him to go back to school.. he fought it and fought it and fought it.. finally gave in.. after 3 weeks he loved school.. then i find out he's dropping out because he spends so much time "researching stocks" but his idea of research is watching some stupid youtube video on "muh technical analysis"

Everyone wants the easy way out.. Whenever people tell me they want to start in stocks I tell them have 6month of expenses saved up + emergency fund. While they are saving that up they should either start a garden or at least grow a plant. Things take time, shit doesn't happen overnight... even if something does happen overnight doesn't mean you are going to be able to do that every fucking time... Some people are always losers in the market.. but we need people like them so that we can make money.

>>11585839
I could see that, it would briefly put it above the 200, then a retest of the interim bottom (assuming it is at/near the current level). I think if it doesn't hold that second bottom it is on it's way to the 2450 area, if it does hold we could see it peak at 3000. But look the fuck out if it can't beat 2950 on the rebound because that would paint a proper H&S and naturally everyone will shit themselves

>>11586174
One time I bought a rental property with all the money I had.. after closing cost and all the fees that went with it I had $35 left in my bank account. (I think i might still have the banks statement for memory) There were bills on that rental property.. I put someone in there right away (i was still new at managing property) The person i put in there stopped paying rent after the first month, then on another rental property I had a heater go out which has to get fixed according to law. I had to borrow money in order to get the heater fixed and borrow money in order to evict the person in the house which ended up being in there for like 4 months while i had bills on it.. i was scrapping by.. i was struggling big time.. i put all my money into this investment and next thing i know i'm in debt and i couldn't even afford to eat.

I ended up paying off the debt after about 6 months and got a good tenant in the place... after that experience i learned to not over extend myself on one single investment also to have a cushion for emergencies and also that yeah.. sometimes.. if you go all in and know its a sure thing.. the rewards are great.. but still.. won't ever do that again.

>>11586253
So you didn't go all in on LCI?

>>11586302
I have a good portion of my stock portfolio in it.. but no.. I have multiple trades going on with different strategies.. I also like to have dry powder so I can keep adding while it goes lower.

when was the golden age of /smg/ ?

>>/biz/thread/S2406

>>11586333
back when it was /rhg/ and everyone would team up on penny stocks...

>>11586333
Ah
Memory lane

Friendly reminder

Oopsie poopsie it's a year later so actually it returns a modest 1,350%. But I'll stop because this is /smg

>>11586333
Back when pimple shilled penny rocket ships weekly. Those were the days. I wonder what that autist is up to these days

>>11586253
Any horror stories?

I saw a rental recently with a tenant who destroyed everything pretty much. All windows, interior etc, and the fuckface even put up a cardboard sign "For sale" in front. Can't imagine what's that like for people on the edge.

>>11586469
Had a lady in the place for 6 months without paying rent, family services got in the way of the eviction because there were kids in the place, she waited till last minute to move out, the sheriffs got there and the house was wide open and all her stuff was out front it was pouring rain on everything.. the house inside was a disaster, crayon drawings on the wall.. weird sticky stuff everywhere.. dirty dishes piled up in the sink that look like they've been there for months.. alot of broken blinds.. meth pipes in garage.. it was probably the worst i've had so far..

no comment needed

So I got 10 shares in SPOT and bought a week after the IPO (red dot) now I'm currently under but I'm wondering if I should bail (because I had worried it was over priced) but also the adjustments might cause SPOT to lose value and go to a more appropriate value

Am I fucked or am I completely retarded for worrying about that shit

>>11586526
get out now

>>11586589
Imma wait till it gets back to 144+ in a spike just so I don't lose anything (it's only a couple of cents off so it's not too crazy to think that)

Anywho so you're telling me the adjustment is not done?

I hope tomorrow is a blood bath and we are down a thousand.

>>11586690
Little girlies don't stop bulls for long.

Not with the orange bowl champion in charge.

>>11586663
spotify is another one of those "never made any money" companies that you should avoid like the plague

Let me know when it's safe to invest again... these bears are on parade... the bulls are just lambs to slaughter...
Told a npc coworker not to check their portfolio... they did and they freaked out...

guys how do I stop hiccups

>>11586762
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hC7xcwfYV6s

>>11586762
drink from a cup upside down

>>11586741
what other companies dont make any money?
NFLX?
TSLA?

>>11586789
Amazon doesn't make money either apparently... 900 incoming

>>11586762
find a mirror to scare yourself

>>11586727
JUST

Been daytrading HALO/AGEEF
Some mj extraction company that will be making decent money through it's contracts. Takes about $300 to move the stock about 5% right now. If this doesn't work, I can hold until they start hyping in a couple months. Pretty low volume right now, but good to screw around with small amounts of money (less than $5000)

halocanna.com

>>11586982
>1 post by this ID

>>11586982
I do this with apple, toss around some b's just to spook the chud retails like hedgies and etf, huge laugh to move it 5% every few hours.

>>11587018
Okay, this is epic

>>11587046
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMShFx5rThI

This is advice from the CNBC screaming guy. He got a TV show after doing it.

holy shit, who here getting dabbed on right now?

>>11587018
this is pretty based as fuck bro

you swagged out to the maximum to be stylin on hedgie NPCs moving AAPL around like its nothin

Are we green for real now?

>>11587228
Yes. Relax. Don't worry about anything.

>>11587254

Short tech

>>11586083
All it takes is one international crisis, or some more bullshit about tariffs, and the investors get spooked.
I think the worst is over, but you never know.

>>11587760
Not even that. Look at a 1 month chart. All it has to do is follow the trend. if NQ cant break 7k, its going back down.

>>11587760
For all you know, this is the last green week and your last chance to save yourself if you are still in stocks

>>11583058
Sell oil

It was just a correction guys.. lost all my money shorting the bottom

Anyone else just staying cash heavy and liquid for now

>>11588217
80% of the time after this many red days in a mo tg eth only two days left we have two green days with an average of 2.5% gains. This wasn't a surprise close to the month. We will hit new highs by Q1, then the real crash will start by Q4 2019.

>>11588248
*in a month with only two days.

Phone auto corrects....

>>11588231
I wish i did that 2 months ago anon, my loses now are to big now to pull out. I am become hodl now.

>>11586743
It was safe on Monday. You missed the boat, anon.

When the fuck Is it safe to go long? I want to invest for more than 5 years and the graphs are literally waiting for an avalanche.

>>11588380
>go long?
Nikkei
Korean and Chinese stocks are also over-sold but do note the volatility

>>11588368
wtf i just went into and cash and short positions. i thought this was the big crash.

>>11588527
Yeah, look at this scary big crash. It is even more green now after pretty much everyone exceeded earnings expectation yesterday after the close.

>>11582731
morality is relativ

Why the fuck is microsoft still struggling?

>>11588527
We've been going down for two weeks and you're opening short positions now? We're at least going to have a rebound.

>>11582731
Defense is fine if they're working for USA, western Europe or similar. No Russian or Chinese defense companies. Pharma is fine too, unless they develop addictive drugs like nicotine or marijuana.

>>11588542
Now change the time to something longer than one day

>>11588542
I say this with kindness. Please get out of the market before mid next week.

Whatever. I'm convinced that we've entered the bulltrap. See you guys at the bottom.

>>11588591
>meme lines
Yes, I'm convinced now. At least post factual data like I did.

Feels like a bulltrap

>>11588575
yea my lines still say doom.

>>11588614
Like this one.

>>11588614
>not trusting the meme lines

Test

>>11588635
Pic related

Open green , close red.

>>11588663
I don't deny that there was a crash. However, it's over and furthermore the recovery is worldwide.

>>11588701
why does it have any reason to be over?

>>11588701
yeah? ... show me the mechanism you use to come to the conclusion of a sustained recovery.

>>11588713
Irrationality doesn't last. You think there were fundamental reasons for the crash in the first place?
>>11588721
I just told you that we can observe a worldwide recovery. All major Asian and European markets opened green and closed even higher. Take a look at US futures right now to feel especially confident. It will be a great day.

>>11588744
EOM shorts taking profits.

>>11588701
dude
uncle Powell is still tightening
We only saw small dead fish out of this and dead whales are still to be uncovered (Douche Bank ? an euro country going bankrupt ?)

any green day is just a massive short covering

>>11588744
>one green day means the bulls are back
Wow, how retarded are you? Nobody knows where this is going, especially not some sperg on 4chink who only looks at the 5 min chart.
Also yes, there are fundamental reasons for this downturn. The global economy is slowing down.

>>11588701
>its over
For you

>>11588744
>It will be a great day.
Every stock exchange with the exception of the Nikkei have not broken the downtrend.
This is the part where most investors lose their collective shirts in the bear market.

>>11588758
You forgot more tariffs, more global sell-offs of US treasury bonds as other markets brace their currencies for the Long term,
an ongoing global contraction & a New Cold War

>>11588744
>we can observe a worldwide recovery ... it will be a green day

I agree with you it will be a green day.

In fact my meme lines just showed you that S&P will be at or near 2800 ... then it will fall to new low. You have more warning than most will get.

Its your money however -- I hope the market goes up 1% everyday till you retire.

>>11588792
Fundamentally, tariffs and tightening lead to the same phenomenon : USD shortage
Foreign countries have to indeed sell ther bonds to get cash USD.

I don't think we will be seeing USD weakness soon because of the carry trade meme : every other country in the world is still drugged on low central bank rate, meaning their currencies will be shorted and USD bid.

So the big boys (eg. Douche Bank) who haven't unwound their short EURUSD are in for a massive ass pain

And I can go on about the differences in GDP growth in the world regarding the central bank rates.

>>11582731
Defense stocks are the best stocks.
I used to work for a missile manufacturer, then a defense and space chip manufacturer and now a military-funded RTO. Defense is the shit.

>>11588835
Which is how the US is sucking the world dry.
Foreign governments aren't stupid enough to continue ignoring this trend.
What you suggest will only lead to one outcome, the eventual demise of the SWIFT

>>11588860

>>11588860
Yes, this is the imperial priviledge of the dollar: print USD and basically get shit for free

I think emperor Trump is feeling globalism and dealing with shit races are not worth it anymore and is using this priviledge one last time, to get factories back, new and fairer deals and trading agreements before isolating the US and its "partners" from the rest of the world.

But the death of the USD supremacy will take some time though.

>>11588905
Every central bank does that tho

That's a serious green day happening rn

>>11588916
Yes but nobody trust their shitty papers

People trust the USD because:
- the US army
- the USA is a business friendly country and tend to keep and create value over time
- the USA is a rather ideal investment environment
- network effect: the more trust it gathers, the more trust it will get

>>11588905
>new and fairer deals and trading agreements
Fucking over Canada, Mexico, Japan, Singapore, the EU, the AU/NZ & ROK is not what you call fair nor friendly behaviour.
Anyone with an ounce of common sense would regard it as vassalage.

But otherwise, I agree that is what the US is doing, sucking the wealth from the rest of the world.

>>11588947
The euro is still worth more than the USD boi

>>11588951
lol

That is called leverage
When you have a lot of leverage, a fair deal is one in which you get everything
Emperor Trump is truly a grand businessman

t. a former retail business owner

>>11588963
nominal value means shit
look up the volume of each currency in today's world transactions

>>11588905
>>11588951
>rebrand NAFTA
>MUH TRADE DEALS! USA! USA! USA!

>>11588947
> the US army
Only countries without army trust USD. China is an example.
> the USA is a business friendly country and tend to keep and create value over time
Lol
>the USA is a rather ideal investment environment
Lol
>network effect: the more trust it gathers, the more trust it will get
Hardly argument and works against usd under trump

>>11588947
>the US army
Correct
> the USA is a business friendly country and tend to keep and create value over time
Wrong
>the USA is a rather ideal investment environment
Only in terms of IPOs and a source of funding
>-network effect: the more trust it gathers, the more trust it will get
No

The real reasons why the USD is dominant?
You forgot the SWIFT and the Oil dollar.

>>11588968
And you just admitted that it is simply extortion.

>>11588968
fucking people isn't "fair", you just call it "fair" to keep your brain dead lackeys on your side when you do it, and to make who ever you are fucking more likely to go along with said fuck.

>>11588981
>>11588985
I like stocks and I have looked into them seriously and did my fair share of research

I can tell you that the USA has the most transparent and DD-friendly environment in the world
Have you ever tried researching chink shit stocks ? well good luck to you because they are mostly garbage or a giant corporate orgies among their chink families

Also, many of the last major innovations come from the USA.

>>11588985
>>11588996
In business, people have no memory of past good deeds.
They don't care if you gave them a nice present before if the current deal is shit. And you can be sure as hell they gonna bite you in the ass whenever they see the opportunity.
Do you guys thing past deals in favor of foreign countries made them treat the US with kindness ?

That is why talking business with normies is such a pain in the ass.

>>11588979
USMCA
>Can't pick trading partners without the approval of the US of A
>Can't touch their own currency or monetary policy
>Impose a fuckton of quotas on Canadian/Mexican import
>Higher percentage of automotive parts have to from the US
>US gets to keep their steel/Aluminium tariffs on Canadian/Mexican steel/aluminium

Far worse than NAFTA.

>>11589040
Then stop with the pretense of fairness.
If the US abuses its power and treat its allies like slaves, why shouldn't anyone have the right to call it out?
Nothing inherently wrong with it. It is just the way power works.

>>11589080
My meaning was "fairness" as in "some animals are more equal than others"

But seriously, what is this new under the sun in international relations ? nothing

>>11589098
>>11589040
why do you speak in new speak? what do you gain from it? I'm looking to see what's actually going on not what any one side wants me to think is going on.

13 months of reading news every day, follwing the stock market, spending hours on reddit and biz for fucking 1000€ profit.

what a waste

>>11582572
>ribs cooked in pepsi
What do you mean by this?

>>11589184
If you want my views:
go long Chink government bonds because the ChinkCom wants to achieve a local reserve currency (Asian countries) status with their CNY

and keep an eye on chink companies who do business domestically

stay in cash in USD and buy the US market if Trump wins mid-terms and/or a 5 sigma event happens in Europe

We're going to need a new thread soon
>>11589184
>>11589098
>>11589080
This doesn't seem very stock related

Also new trade deals are so that USA doesn't go broke trying to get China to obey WTO trading rules, since no other country appears willing or able to
Short term uncomfortableness for long term growth and security is the planning behind it, we will have to wait and see if that's really what happens though
But most media blows all of it out of proportion because of their "fuck Trump" aditude

>>11589184
It is a roundabout way of saying that the World (i.e the United States) would be a much better place if the US keeps its #1 spot.

>>11589232
I will make the thread

I like Trump but I also try to keep an eye on where the profits would be

>>11589217
but did you enjoy it tho?

NEW THREAD

>>11589257
>>11589257
>>11589257
>>11589257
>>11589257

>>11583697
>>11584906
>debt fueled society
>good

>>11589217
And What else could you have done?
Buy crypto?

>>11589217
fucking way she goes

>>11586987
So what, it might be what some people here are looking for.