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>mfw i fucked up so badly in life that my absolute biggest hobby is sleeping.
its literally the highlight of my day and sets me free. my only issue is i cant sleep more than 12 hours.

how to sleep longer?

>> No.11531274

insert kys joke here

>> No.11531302

Fuck I just found out I’m part Sugondese. What do anons? Am I a degenerate now?

>> No.11531313

>>11531224
Stay up longer smoking weed

>> No.11531315

>>11531224
I have the same problem, except all of my dreams are pretty fucked

>> No.11531323
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11531323

When you wake up just go back to sleep

>> No.11531326

>>11531224
that's impressively bad. tell us about your average day when you're not sleeping

>> No.11531327

>>11531302
DEEZ NUTS DAMN DANIEL BACK AT IT AGAIN WITH THE CASH ME OWSIDE HOWBOW DAT BOY OH SHIT WADDUP SHARKEESHA NO

>> No.11531342

>>11531326
lift weights, shitpost, animes

>> No.11531368

>>11531342
not that different from my average day, and I enjoy all three of those things more than I enjoy sleeping. why don't you?

>> No.11531374

>>11531368
i dont know anon, maybe because of crippling depression?

>> No.11531388

>>11531374
Have you tried lucid dreaming, I swear that shit is so fun, read "A field guide to lucid dreaming"

That book fucking taught me how to shapeshift into a tiger and I shit you not I had a dream were I massacred my school as a fucking tiger and I was ripping kid's throats out.

Good fucking times.

>> No.11531409

>>11531388
>lucid dreaming
yeah i do that a couple times, but that still requires energy.

mostly i just enjoy the pure bliss which is basically taking a long break from my consciousness and running away from myself until i have to wake up again. then i pray to god to fall back to sleep for a couple more hours and squeeze 1 or 2 more in.

>> No.11531429

>>11531409

It actually dosen't take that much energy

You ludicd dream in your REM phases of sleep.

Non-REM phases is when your body is naturally repairing itself and what not.

I highly reccomend the book I mentioned, one of my first dreams ever I was skydiving for like 3 minutes until I fell into an ocean I swear I felt the sensation of drowning and litterly thought I was going to die until I realized I could breath underwater.

Its some crazy shit man.
Everything feels 100% real too

pro tip: food tastes 100x better for some reason, no one can figure out why but it does.

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11531434

see you in the dreamworld friens!

>> No.11531435

>>11531374
if you stay inside most of the day, try getting a light therapy lamp. they're not only for seasonal depression. mine lifted me out of a year-long depression where I was lying in bed 20 hours a day on the worst days, and had constant physical chest pain from the bad feels. the lamp worked within days and was so effective I was mildly manic for a while. even though I bought particularly bright bulbs for my regular lamps and thought my light levels were ok, with a lux meter I found the average indoor light level hitting my eyes was only 100 lux or so, 100x less than outdoor light. really, really bad over the long term. using my light therapy lamp 2.5 feet away next to my monitor gives 1000-1500 lux. I use it for 2-4 hours a day and it completely turned my mood around, despite no change or improvement in my actual life circumstances to justify the mood change

>> No.11531439

>>11531435

very interesting, I might look into this

any recommendations on brand of bulbs?

>> No.11531454

>>11531435
>>11531429
thanks anons, will try this out.

>> No.11531485

>>11531439
I use this one and I can attest that it works https://www.amazon.com/Carex-Day-Light-Classic-Bright-Therapy/dp/B00PCN4UVU

there may be cheaper ones available though. this one only gives about half the light output it claims (5000 lux at 1 foot away), but I don't know how easy it is to find one that gives the full advertised 10,000 lux. plus if it were any brighter than mine it would be uncomfortable to look at. you definitely don't need the full 10,000 lux they usually recommend; many studies were done with lower light levels and just 1000-1500 lux made a huge difference for me. the standard idea is that with half the lux level and twice the exposure duration you get the same effect. I have it set up that far away so that I can comfortably use it while I use my computer, you don't have to look directly at it just have it in your peripheral vision.

>> No.11531530

>>11531429
how long do your lucid dreams usually last, subjectively? I'd like to lucid dream more but it feels like both my lucid dreams and regular dreams last only minutes, and I rapidly forget them as soon as I shift to dreaming about something else

>> No.11531588

>>11531315
this is why i get black out drunk 6 days a week

>> No.11531599

>>11531530

Honestly its a very difficult skill to develop because you have to be able to fall asleep for longer than about 6 hours, 8 hours is the recommended time.

Lucid dreams themselves for me only last about 20 minutes, but I can have multiple different dreams within my 8 hours of sleep.

This is going to sound retarded, but you littery need to fall asleep telling yourself in your mind "When I wake up I will be in a dream" over and over and over again.

another big one is dream recall, every time you lucid dream you should write it down IMMEDIATELY in a dream journal. I do have a dream journal and I always record my dreams.

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>>11531530
Pic of the book

This thing taught me everything and the better you get at it the longer and more viid dream you can have.

Im currently working on being able to fly like superman.

One time I got pretty high but then I feel very far onto concrete and I actually felt like I died for a second, Its scary and fun at the same time.

>> No.11531622

>>11531224
lmao

>> No.11531868

>>11531599
>>11531616
thanks anon. I realize I'm dreaming to some extent from time to time, but usually I'm still not very lucid and mostly just having irrational dream-thoughts. the most interesting thing I've noticed about lucid dreams is that I get a very strong impression that my senses are much more vivid than when I'm awake, like I'm seeing things at higher resolution and higher frame rate than anything I've seen in the real world

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>>11531274
>Joke

>> No.11532399

Start drinking alcohol

>> No.11532460

>>11531616
I have tried to do fly unsuccessfully in dreams except one time with an umbrella like Mary poppins. Sometimes you need a prop.

>> No.11532571

>>11531616
I don#t have the discipline to do the reality checks every day when using the MILD method or whatever it's called.

Is there any hope for me?

>> No.11533325

>>11531224
Start reading about crypto, faggot. Crypto gives so many of us some sense of purpose in life.

>> No.11533342

>>11532460
Don’t even need to train myself to fly in dreams, my antidepressants give me very vivid dreams :-D

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11534785

>>11531224
Try some ETH and hang out with Sayori

>> No.11535648

I also can't sleep more than 12 hours a day. The most I ended up sleeping was like 18 hours or so, from mid afternoon to late morning but I spent more than 24 hours awake the day before

>> No.11536432

People commended unto Zarathustra a wise man, as one who could discourse well about sleep and virtue: greatly was he honoured and rewarded for it, and all the youths sat before his chair. Zarathustra sat among the youths before his chair. And thus spake the wise man:

Respect and modesty in presence of sleep! That is the first thing! And avoid all who sleep badly and keep awake at night!

Modest is even the thief in presence of sleep: he always steals softly through the night. Immodest, however, is the night-watchman; immodestly he blares his horn.

No small art is it to sleep: one has to keep awake all day to do it.

Ten times a day must thou overcome thyself: that causeth fine weariness, and is opium to the soul.

Ten times must thou reconcile again with thyself; for overcoming is bitterness, and the unreconciled sleep badly.

Ten truths must thou find during the day; otherwise wilt thou soul will be hungry, and seek truth during the night too.

Ten times must thou laugh during the day, and be cheerful; otherwise thy stomach, the father of affliction, will disturb thee in the night.

Few people know it, but one must have all the virtues in order to sleep well. Shall I bear false witness? Shall I commit adultery? Shall I covet my neighbour's maidservant? All that would ill accord with good sleep.

And even if one has all the virtues, there is still one thing remaining: to send the virtues themselves to sleep at the right time.

That they may not quarrel with one another, the little women ! And over thee, unhappy man!

Peace with God and thy neighbour: so desireth good sleep. And peace also with thy neighbour's devil! Otherwise it will haunt thee in the night.

Honour to the government, and obedience, and even to the crooked government! So desireth good sleep. How can I help it, if power likes to walk on crooked legs?

>> No.11536478

>>11536432
He who leadeth his sheep to the greenest pasture, shall always be for me the best shepherd: so doth it accord with good sleep.

Many honours I want not, nor great treasures: they excite the spleen. But one sleeps poorly without a good name and a little treasure.

Little company is more welcome to me than a bad one: but they must come and go at the right time. So doth it accord with good sleep.

Well, also, do the poor in spirit please me: they promote sleep. Blessed are they, especially if one always agrees with their opinions.

Thus passeth the day for the virtuous man. When night cometh, then take I good care not to summon sleep. He disliketh to be summoned--sleep, the lord of the virtues!

But I think of what I have done and thought during the day. Thus ruminating, patient as a cow, I ask myself: What were thy ten overcomings?

And what were the ten reconciliations, and the ten truths, and the ten laughters with which my heart enjoyed itself?

Thus pondering, and cradled by forty thoughts, it overtaketh me all at once--sleep, the unsummoned, the lord of the virtues.

Sleep tappeth on mine eye, and it turneth heavy. Sleep toucheth my mouth, and it remaineth open.

Verily, on soft soles doth he come to me, the dearest of thieves, and stealeth from me my thoughts: stupid do I then stand, like this academic chair.

But not much longer do I stand: already I am lying down.--

>> No.11536529

>>11536478
When Zarathustra heard the wise man thus speak, he laughed in his heart: for thereby had a light dawned upon him. And thus spake he to his heart:

This wise man seems a fool to me, with his forty thoughts: but I believe he knows well how to sleep.

Happy is he who lives near this wise man! Such sleep is contagious-- even through a thick wall.

A magic resides even in his academic chair. And not in vain did the youths sit before this teacher of virtue.

His wisdom is: keep awake in order to sleep well. And verily, if life had no sense, and had I to choose nonsense, this would be the desirablest nonsense for me also.

Now know I well what people sought above all else when they sought the teachers of virtue. They sought good sleep, and poppy-head virtues to bring it about!

To all those belauded sages of the academic chairs, wisdom was sleep without dreams: they knew no higher significance to life.

Even now, to be sure, there are some like this preacher of virtue, and not always so honourable: but their time is up. And not much longer will they stand: already they are lying down.

Blessed are these drowsy ones: for they shall soon drop off!

Thus spake Zarathustra.