/biz/ - Business & Finance

being a doctor

>>114964
>doctor
i dont think im smart enough, and even if i was my marks are already too fucked for med school

>>114930

I got a bio degree and was one of the top in my class.

Have worked numerous shitty jobs from apple picking to cleaning ambulances.


God speed, anon.

>>114930
>i
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>>114979
You're fucked. Try to get into pharma school or dental school if still possible. Otherwise enjoy being a lab assistant making $30k/yr for the rest of your life.

>>114930
>im in biology

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>>115051
;-;

>>114930
It could be worse, you could be taking computer science.

>>114930
Law and focus on medical/genetics related patents

If you're in California become a CLS

>>115066
dont compsci grads actually get jobs afterwards?

>>114999
>>115066
>mfw i'm majoring in "Biology and Computer Science"

>>115078
lol no

A degree in comp sci isn't worth shit unless you taught yourself some valuable qualifications. In a comp sci degree the kids barely learn the basics of java programming. The only people getting good jobs with a comp sci degree are those who gained experience by working on projects in their free time.

>>115108
fuck. i shouldve went into business like everyone else

>>115108
this

comp sci is preparation for academia more than anything else, good luck trying to get a job with it

>>115078
Only if you live in Austin, Seattle, Los Angeles, the Bay Area or some other city that panders to start-ups and/or high tech companies.

Anywhere else and you're fucked.

>>115116
Could've just done computer engineering.

>>115078
Janitorial and Software Engineering don't count as jobs

>>115128
yeah but its too late now, im stuck with bio and whatever mcjob that it leads too

is suicide the best option?

>biology major
>grades not good enough for MD

RIP in peace OP

>>115141
If you can get something published while working in a lab there's still hope to get into academia or med school. Hold off on killing yourself for at least a few years.

>>115091
Bioinformatics? I guess it's a good choice if your dream job is "being a code monkey for biologists". If it isn't, you're pretty much fucked.

>>115151
two years away from having to apply to grad school, but i know i'm already fucked

I probably should've went to business school when I had the chance

>>115158
>If you can get something published while working in a lab

thats a long shot. fuck what have i done
i think i should just drop out now

Fellow biologist here. We should start up a biology business together, OP.

>>115181
Is it too late to change majors? You might have enough credits to switch to biochem or chem easily, the job prospects are bad but still significantly better than biology.

>>115181

Okayokay, we're honestly just being 4chan and trying to scare you because it's fun, but also because it's partially true (but not completely). Definitely graduate with your degree because not graduating is INFINITELY worse than anything else. You can definitely find a job with a biology degree, but you have to work hard and apply to tons of places. It might be better to get a medical technologist certificate after you graduate.

>>115191
What do you do?

Fellow bio major here. I'm a med school reject, spent 2 years doing research at a school's lab just to get rejected by the med program twice. Now I'm a bank teller pulling in just under $3k a month. Change your major while you still can.

>>114930
It really depends on the connections you make in Univeristy + the level of your degree.
Being an introverted faggot won't help you.
>more connections >better odds of getting a good position >better pay.

grades aren't worth shit in the real world OP.
It's what you know + WHO you know.

If you live in a small town then gtfo and go to a larger university within a large city.

>>115170
It's never too late to switch.

>>115248
id have to start from first year if i switched

unless i went into geography...what jobs are in that?

>>115206
I graduated in December but I'm currently jobless. I was trying to get into computational neuroscience but alas I couldn't find my way into it. Now I'm pretty much looking for any job just to survive. Like many biology students, I have wet lab skills, but I preferred to focus on math/computer modeling.

>>115191
I'm a biologist to in my last semester, living in canadaland, no jobs here either

>>114930
Nursing (even if you're a male) and Clinical Lab Sciences. With these 2 you're guaranteed a 50k/yr job surrounded by single women looking for workplace relationship drama with you being one of the only few males there besides doctors who already have trophy wives. .

Don't listen do anyone else in this thread unless they have said these 2 jobs; they are fagg0ts.

>>115181
>>115257
>>114930
Look into doing a vocational masters; e.g. masters in physiotherapy or nutrition or w/e. It'll take 1-2 years but you'll get a marketable job out of it.

At least, we have those masters programs here in Australia, not sure about the US.

>>115280
Oh, and also highschool science teaching may be an option to get a graduate diploma or masters in.

>>115221
>>115265
Being a biology major is suffering. I'm working as a lab assistant right now and it seems like there's no other fucking options, every bio-related job opening I look at either requires a PhD or pays close to nothing.

>>115277
What is clinical lab sciences? and how do I become on in Canada?

>>115275
There's a lot of genetic testing labs coming into existence that test dna / people's genetics to see if they're at risk for shit like Parkinson / certain types of cancer. Take a genetics / biochem course where you do PCR type shit so (and learn it well) even lie to the lab ta and say you messed up (even if you do it right the first time) to get extra practice so you can do it again so you can say you have experience on your resume/CV. Also lie on your resume and say you were a tutor for this course.

>>115280
If I move to Australia will the government there pay for my tuition?

>>115257
>id have to start from first year if i switched

So what? How much time did you lose? 2 years? That's nothing.

>>115304
You test people's blood/urine/samples

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_laboratory_scientist

>>115277
It's not 100% biology but there are a number of environmental positions around where I live. Unfortunately I've applied but never heard a word back.

>>115318
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_laboratory_scientist

to add. Did you ever watch House on fox and see them testing patients samples for shit to diagnose them? That IS FICTION. Doctors aint got time for that. A lab tech does that shit.

How much does being a lab assistant/lab tech pay? Would it be bad to just give up and spend the rest of my life doing that?

>>115338
12$/hr up to about 15$/hr here in canada

>>115323
I graduated with a degree in marine science not chemistry but now work as an analytical chemist (chemist not QC technician) for a big pharma corp. I was able to get this position because I took a lot of optional courses at my school for analytical chemistry (easy math no calculus).

>>115310
Nope.

>>115338
Biology/Micro: 12/hr
QC Chemistry: 15/hr
Analytical Dev: 17/hr
Researcher: 25/hr

starting

>>115350
That's about the same range as it pays down here in Texas.

>>115350
>>115392
T-that's like lower-middle class, that's not so bad.

>>115414
yeah, im thinking of doing that. its better than nothing

r-right?

>>115414
If by lower-middle class you mean lower class your right.

>>115425
25/hr is middle class in murrika m8. Sorry to bust you're bubbles.

>>115392
>12/hr
I get more money from autismbux.

>>115414
More like
>making less than 30k starting
>no promotions without further education
>salary caps out at less than 40k

When I first picked biology I thought it would be a good all-around major that would get me a decent middle-class job one day. Nobody told me I would end up being POOR. I guess its my fault for not doing enough research when I was younger.

>>115425
>>115414
Well if you can hold out and outlast everyone you can become a supervisor and add $10/hr to those starting salaries.

15/hr is ~32K/year. If you get married to someone else that makes that much you two now make just as much as the medium American/Canadian household. Not everyone can be a rich 300k/yr starting ceo math major.

>>115453
Jokes on you kid. Maths PhD here, I'm making 300K/year (not in a maths field obviously).

>>115456
Math majors are pretty screwed as well. Pretty much every degree that isn't technical in nature has bad job prospects.

>>115441
There's no way your going to make 25/hr starting unless you have a masters at least. Sorry to burst your bubbles.

I feel like the biggest problem faced by biology majors is all the people who are only in the course because they want to do medicine, so you're left with a scramble at the end by those who don't get in trying to find some sort of job out of it.

>>115481
That's why I said everyone cant be a winner like you. I didn't say you weren't making that did I?

>>115456
I know its skewed to the right or something, but the average American income is like $44,000/yr, which is $12,000 more than 32k/yr.

>>115481
I'm a dogecoin trader making $500k a year, you jelly?

>>115482
>Maths major
>not technical
I have a cryptography job with my maths major, making more money than most people on this board put together.

>>115486
Naw, it is more like 90% of the Biology majors. The rest of them actually want to do science.

>>115481
>>115497
Cool story bro, you want to make your own thread for it instead of shitting up ours?

>>115492
I believe it. I bought 5B dogecoin for $1200 and am now a multi millionaire..

Okay back to scheming about creating startups with biology.

>>115533
Im with you bro. I guarentee you won't find a harder worker then me who will do anything to win.

>pls hire
>;_;

>>114964
No.

Obamacare.

There's only one guy offering real advice about Clinical Lab sciences and nursing the rest are shit posts. I would also like to add Marine Fisheries manager / technician. They pay you a $30.000 salary to go out on boats for 6 weeks at a time to monitor by-catch on fishing boats.

Aquaponics?

>>115481
Was that 300k salary your starting salary? And how wide do you think you'd rate the number of job opportunities you had available to you upon graduation on a scale of 1-10, with 1 being very few, and 10 being any job you want?

>>115565
I can't swim.

Please tell me it's ok you don't need to know how to swim.

>>115585
>phd in math
>any job i want
>300k starting

is a meme, a pretty old one. dont take that guy seriously

all we did was feel in this thread

now lets answer the question in OP

which major ISNT fucked?

>>115629
You'll note that the starting and any job I want were brought up by me, not the guy I'm responding to.

>>115653

Nursing even if you're a male

>>115121
Lies and libel.

Undergrad CS is the worst preparation for graduate study there is. Most top programs advise you study something else (EE/CpE/Math/Stats) in undergrad before heading into a CS masters/PhD program.

That said you still can't get a job with just an undergrad cs degree. (just google "fizzbuzz")

>Marketing major, Entrepreneurship minor
>GPA 3.85
>Pre-law advising

If I end up fucking hating law school, I'll become a start-up in whatever I'm good at. Probably a restaurant chain. Is this a gud plan /biz/? I'm still a freshman so there's plenty of time to change course if I've fucked myself over. I'm sick of listening to sycophantic "do whatever makes you happy" advisers and shit. Tell me what pays the bills, preferably not calculus-intensive.

>>115662
looks like this is my only plan.
should i even bother finishing bio?

>>115475
Finance & Information Systems double major undergrad. Landed a neat corporate fin gig @ 29/hour no prior work experience and right out of college.

How did I do /biz/?

Another biofag here.

I plan on going for a masters before worrying about a job, and since you don't seem to be doing med school, OP, I'd say do the same. An extra 2 or so years to better the chances of not being assfuck seems like a decent choice--more so than having to swap majors and start over.

Either that or try and get a HS teaching spot in a decent district

>>115091
bro that's actually p high in demand. Get good at coding and take some bioinformatics courses. Make sure to make friends with the professors of bioinformatics, they might get you some connections

>>114930
>>114930
Toxicology is god tier


Hella jobs in gov, companies, police, hospitals, etc


Choice of working in lab or working on the field

make good money.

>>116086
bioinformatics is good shit. These guys don't know what they are talking about lol. Bioinformatics is always growing and has a shit ton of investment into it

>>115448
>autismbux

Tell me more

>>115475
... with a bio* degree, you mean

>>115453
>When I first picked biology I thought it would be a good all-around major that would get me a decent middle-class job one day
>Nobody told me I would end up being POOR

>:3