/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>11465486
>free healthcare is useless lol, just take an insurance

>>11465486
White collar npc
>Doesn't have unions
>works for min wage + %10 so he can pay his college debt
>start his career at 25
>lives with parents
Chad blue collar
>Started working at 17
>has union membership
>at 25 earns at least double the min. wage
>Bought his first house, done with half of his morgage payments

>>11465823
>>Started working at 17
>>has union membership
Kek you only get into the union if you know somebody, can take years for normal people if at all, but they never tell you that do they?

>make 16 an hour
>unions demand 25 an hour in my country
>company willing to settle it at 21/hr but need to let a bunch of people go
>unions refuse deal
>company goes into administration and closes its door
>all union members are now on welfare

>>11465823
Yo yo yo

>>11465486
>he's not his own boss
npc detected.

>>11465486
>im not an npc
>spends all day posting the same meme over and over again like a robot

My boss told me onions are bad

Leftypol brigading us again.
I think the NPC meme might hve gotten under their skin.

>>11465486
>4chan told me onions are bad

>>11465486
>Be me
>Chemistry Grad from uni
>Have killer interview for first job
>Between me and another candidate who has more experience
>Will be offered the job if other guy declines
>Union.jpg
>Minimum starting wage set by union is £25K a year (a lot for a chemistry grad)
>Can't ask for lower wage to beat out other guy

Lose out on job
thx union

>file under the left cant meme

sage

>>11465988

>>11465486
>11465486

>>11465771
>Obamacare
>"free" but have to pay from your income
>opting out requires complicated paperwork (proving that you're poor) that tax preparers don't know how to fill out

>>11465823
If your skills are in high demand, you don't need parasitic unions to protect you.

back to leftypol you go

>>11466003
>No u

>>11466003
Its cute when leftypol think they have the bants

>>11465833

Union wisdom from people who have never been in a union or known someone who was in a union is the best wisdom.

>>11466074
90% of jobs dont require people to have unique skills

>>11465980
the other guy was obviously a better candidate. That sounds like its more your fault.

>>11466148

so git gud

>>11465771
>free healthcare
>increased taxes to pay for said healthcare
>free

>>11466113
Please tell us all about all the people you know in the union who didn't get in because of nepotism or waiting for years?

>>11465870

I saw this shit happen every single year at the plumbers union I worked for

They had to lay people off every year because the union demanded more money. The ironic thing is that the union dues went up every year too.

The hilarious thing is that these dumb cucks never put two and two together and realized the union was the one fucking everyone

>>11465486
I will never hire anyone that is an union. I make them a political test before hiring them. Commie scum are never called back. Time to go to that food stamps, kiddos.

>>11466177

How about I'm in a closed shop union, and the only way into the union is to be hired by my employer.

So everyone who gets hired by my company? HR hires, before they get accepted by the union they have to not be a shit stain. Don't get into the union in time your fired. So basically you have to be qualified, get hired, and not suck at your job. If you can do this your in.

ooops I mean all unions operate exactly the same way and its literally hitler.

I would tell you that most of management is in the union as well but I wouldn't want to destabilize your safespace world view.

>>11466212
Don't worry man.
Pajeet and Prawesh won't even have an interview when you get outsourced for them.

>>11466212
What happens when you get caught?

>>11466177

Forgot the best part, you don't have to pay union dues if you don't want to.

I basically in effect works out to be "if everyone agrees you suck your fired"

>>11465486

A free association of people interacting with the market to attempt to negotiate for their interests? Sounds good, so long as they don't act like gangs. Unions are as Ancap as they come though, in the ideal form. The idea that the only form of organisation permissible is the for-profit corporation is rediculous. Mutuals, Co-ops, unions, family associations AND corporations - anything is fine so long as it's voluntary to interact with and doesn't use violence or the threat of violence to compel anyone.

>>11466337
Unions are backed by the government, you brainlet. In reality there's nothing ancap about them.

>>11465486
My union chapter is fucking gay and fraternizes with the company.

We work 6 days a week mandatory, benefits are weak, the union does fuck all about the glaring saftey issues. Some of the supervisors butter up the union reps with coffee and food in the morning and they let shit slide. Management steps all over our union and the literal boomers do fucking nothing about it because they've been there for 20+ years and they dont want to see anything happen to their pensions or pay. Which everyone is overpaid for what they do.


Unions can lick my nuts, based on experience.

>>11466718

a union is made of its members, so you have a union full of shitty people.

A company is made up of its employees, so you work for a shitty company.

union or no union, you know how to fix this (leave)

>>11466739
I'm trying.

I cant just up and quit. Even with my saftey net.

It'll take some serious convincing now to tell me unions are a benefit in the 21st century.

>>11466791

Not every union is the same, just like not every company is the same.

Fact is in the 21st century almost every organization sucks. It really only has so much to do with unions.

>>11466629
>Unions are backed by the government

>>11465486
Unions were a collectivist bandaid for workers to protect themselves before the government stepped in to handle it for them with it's own legal bandaids.
One day they need to be sloughed, otherwise the infection they are perpetuating will kill society.