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>>11447323

FEELS GOOD TO NOT BE ON THAT BOOMER COASTER FROM HELL KEK

>>11447323
b-b-buy the dip am i r-right guys?

DELET

>>11447323
>just a natural correction after the markets were up a lot
>fundamentals are very strong.

wtf? I just requested a loan to buy in lol

Should I just go real estate?

>>11447323

it’s going to be crashed right before the midterms, isnt it

>>11447645
you would literally be the same as people taking out loans to buy bitcoin at 19k per

>real estate
>probably a bigger bubble than even the stock market

you buy into fucking bear markets not into rallies than been in bull markets for decades lmao you fucking newfag just buy crypto

>>11447580

>>11447645
>Should I just go real estate?

Have you seen housing prices lately?

NEW PARADIGM!!!!

>>11447661
SO I made 2 mistakes so far. I bought crypto at its height and missed this bull run... I'm doing my CPA, but damn that is no excuse.

>>11447323
I'm a medical student, realistically speaking, do you guys think everything will crash enough by the time I finish my residency so I can scoop up shit on the cheap prices?

>>11447639
>oh ok so there's nothing to worry about then

>>11447711
quad dubs hory sheet
>time to panic

Stocks really are crypto in slomo, shits looked like December btc for months

>>11447661
ok 3 because I requested a 3k loan during this drop. Thank you for being real with me

>>11447702
no one knows exactly what will happen.
historically the stock market doesn't crash, it just goes sideways or up slower than normal.

my guess is we'll see something closer, but not quite like the 1960s. corporate profits are already maxed out on suppressing wages and using loans from banks. With higher interest rates, retiring boomers, and possible H1B crackdowns, we may see a labor crunch that could spur higher wages.
This will contribute with interest rates to produce inflation in the next decade

in the short term this very much looks like a bubble popping though, with all the complacency and everyone saying everything is just fine. and personally i hope the housing market crashes so maybe i can afford a house some day.

>>11447323
Tumponomics..was a mistake

>>11447738
>we may see a labor crunch that could spur higher wages.

It's already happening and wages aren't budging.

>>11447760
they are... but just fucking wait. macroeconomic cycles don't just switch overnight.

>>11447766
no they are not, people were being told to weight since 1998

>>11447766

I hope I'm wrong, but it won't happen.

>>11447778
you're not going to make any real money in retail bub. learn supply and demand. you need a skilled job where there is low supply of your type of worker.
if your wages haven't risen since 1998 its your own damn fault

>>11447323
Does this chart mean that if I had invested in a nasdaq index fund in 1999, I would have been in the hole until like 2016?

>>11447738
>bubble popping

there is no bubble, money is artificially pumped into the stock market by the federal reserve through ZIRP loans to private banks who trade on the exchange, unless you think the fed is going to go bust, stocks will never decrease

>>11447801

yes

read up on the "DotCom Bubble"

>>11447323
The meme bubble graph really is SO accurate. Look at gold, BTC and now stocks, they all look identical. If it comes to fruition (and it 100% obviously will) stocks are going to die for at least the next quarter-century.

People are going to be so butthurt its going to be absolutely glorious.

>>11447801
yes
now imagine for how long people are gonna be JUST'd buying the "dip" right now

>>11447647

That would be really bad for dems, countless studies have shown that economic turbulence does NOT swing voters. If anything it makes them more scared of changes.

It's the same psychology that causes bagholding, people lose 30% in one day, their brain actually signals to them "DON'T DO ANYTHING", it's also what causes 'deer in headlights' moments. Look up amygdala highjack for some more info.

>>11447323
If I was in stocks I would be getting out right about now.

This might not be the top but it's at least extremely close.

>>11447878
Bullshit, I saw repubs get trashed under both Bush Jr and Sr when they fucked up the economy. Why lie?

>>11447711
this

>>11447896

Both presidents started wars you dumb fuck.

>>11447760
That's because no one is qualified for those jobs, or can't afford to take them, because they have a pile of debt, a worthless degree, and no job experience. The college meme will take decades to correct.

>>11447949
Sr actually enjoyed a popularity boost due to the golf war you stupid zoomer

Where can I leverage trade stocks and what's the max possible?

80% in stocks here.

Look, I recognise that there's going to be a massive crash soon, but what can I even do about it? Literally everything will dump at the same time. Real estate, gold, shares, bonds, even cash.

>>11448066
Short the SPY

>>11448066
Tether up

>>11448066
>Literally everything will dump at the same time. Real estate, gold, shares, bonds, even cash

>even cash

>technology propelling GDP to new highs in line with productivity
>"ITS GOTTA CRACH BECUZ REASONS!!!"

>>11448098
It will though. You think the fed isn't going to increase inflation?

>>11448066
if you're truly 80% in stocks then sell part or all of your positions and go short, either by opening short positions or buying puts. why is this difficult to understand?

>>11448066
Go all in on bitcoin.

>>11448066
put your money into a real store of value

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

>>11447724
why? he said "there's nothing to worry about then"

Just ignore the irony, sarcasm, and npc implications.

>>11448118
Because I don't want to lose more than I've invested.
If you mean buying into shorting ETFs then that's retarded, because their fees are astronomical.

>>11448124
mm hmm

>>11447323

If the economy crashes under Trump's presidency, he will blame it on Obama.

>>11448049
Anyone?

>>11448253
Would fidelity let me do it?

>zoomers thinks the market is too high
Kill yourselves doomsday fags

>>11448253
look up which broker will give you a margin account and see what their requirements are. Look up MARGIN account you fucking newfag.

>>11448124
If I did buy precious metals, what's the best way to do it? Are ETFs safe? Physical metals are too expensive.

I'd probably go with platinum in an attempt to profit off the collapse of South Africa.

>>11447323
Everything is going to be just fine. For us.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSq0qyYWKG8

>timing the market
Just invest in companies you like and understand whenever you have some cash to put in. Don't take your money out until you need it and you literally can't lose as long as you diversify a bit.

stocks are part of the same money printing bubble as everything else is. the economy stalls because of debt/QE, stocks fall because people start saving.

gold used to be the safe haven, but now gold's been replaced by bitcoin in the minds of everybody that would otherwise buy some, apart from those that dont yet understand it, or are too old to care.

>>11448671
>he thinks buy paper PMs is a good idea

>>11448816
buying any metal from here on out is a bad idea. gold has had a hard enough time moving upward as it is, and now all the potential newer buyers that gold's hopes are resting on are quickly losing interest in gold

>>11447647
Yessir.

Hope you faggots bought gold and exited your shitcoins.

>>11448848
t. Brainlet

>>11448876
t. late adopter, it seems

>>11447895
Id we were pre 70's I would agree with you.
But not now.
The stock market does not function like then anymore. Like an engine to move forward the economy. Back then there was real competition between Co's to attract your dollar in the stock market.
Right now, the stock market is just a vacuum machine that sucks the surpluss inflated money from the market.
Imo it is a new paradigm that looks like universal basic income's first steps.
I say first steps b/c you have to invest something in order to have gains forever.
In other words, where should the profits go ? Either individual or corporate ?
In banks @2-3% pa ? Bonds @3% pa (look at failed states ?
Remember we have 3-4%pa inflation driven by the Fed. If you raise wages we would have 5-7% pa real inflation. Not gonna happen.
So the only remaining option is to hide that money in something more or less touchable, aka boomer stocks.
When a Co has problems it first lays off employees, then gets a bailout.
It is booletproof bros.
The best thinh to do when the stock market moves down is to buy, unironically.
I hodl stocks at 30 Co's and buy every 5% dip. Also divs are sweet.

>>11448133
intention is everything in magic

>>11447711
sick get

>>11449095
this is actually a decent point. the mid 70s saw the adoption of "COMPANIES SHOULD ALWAYS BE PROFITING MORE QUARTER BY QUARTER." The vacuum analogy is real.

>>11449095
but QE is over so theirs no new money to come in and outbid the sellers who need to liquidate periodically for whatever reason

this is all QT coming home to roost

How can I put in lets say 1000usd and short this bubble?

>>11447639
>fundamentals are strongu
>funds are safu

>>11447323
I want a quick correction back to 2008 levels and then back up again. I want to buy the dip desu.

>>11447384
>He believes his shitcoins will be safe during financial Armageddon

>>11447323
Linear scale? Wtf?

NOOOOOOOOOO MOMMY DO SOMETHING DADDY GOT ME INTO BOOMER STOCKS AND I BOUGHT AT ATH AGAIN!! AAAAAAAAAAH

>>11447623
>asscoin
>commodity

>>11449264
QT is just a blip. Aka a tiny obstacle in the long run. Money still get printed and supply is rising.
Also it is a good excuse to 'crash' the market so that mr. Shekelstein buys lower.
The real indicator is inflation.
As long as money is backed by nothing, I have no doubt my stocks will do good. Or atleast better than any other investment long term.
Just so you know, I started with $125k four years ago and now I have $315k. Not the best roi by far, but rn I can afford a 50% crash and be in the profit still..
Not expecting that though.

>>11449143
Thanks bro.

>>11447323
Nothing to see here

>>11449959
This actually makes perfect sense, thanks for sharing anon

>>11449959
>QT is just a blip

when you write the most wrong thing from the first sentence you write it makes it easy to ignore what you wrote

>>11447323
What site did you use for your pic related in OP? Looks comfy and more simple for stocks than tradingview

>>11447711
11 44 77 11
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>>11449346

Not only it will be safe, but it will grow as people will see it as another venue of currency that isn't devalued by shitty governments.

Boomer here

You kiddies haven’t seen the true power of traditional stocks yet. We are about to rebound from this market drop a reach DOW 40,000