/biz/ - Business & Finance

Team has never built anything before this.. They were garbage men, welders, and other shit before they became LISK delegates turned "Founders"..
Not to say those jobs don't take skill, but they have no business running a software team, let alone building a decentralized platform.
Every ARK side project has been borderline a scam/heavily mismanaged. Some of those by ARK "Founders". ARK has 0 chance at success. It is a shit show used to enrich the founders with very little given back to community for actually keeping it going and contributing.
ARK Founders keep their stash in BTC for the most part(some 6,000 BTC). Should be all you need to know in their own faith of their project.
I'm a delegate who has seen the show from the inside.. I only keep my node running to turn it into other more valuable coins at this point. Trust me when I say it's a complete shit show. If it weren't for a few very smart delegates, the wheels would have fallen off already.
"Invest" at your own risk, but i assure you it won't end well.

Still holding.
Don’t think we‘ll See a new ATH though.....

let it go, it's a clever scam by a disorganized bunch of ex-lisk nobodies who happened to be doing the right thing at the right time
their development is shit, whitepaper is elementary school level incoherence and the value proposition a meme
don't waste your time or shekels on this for it will end badly

(You) have been warned

>>11439843
Fx was the lead core dev
New technical whitepaper being rewritten for V2 now

Yes
Sort of
No
Meme til 2020

>>11439858
Fx is an incompetent and insecure prick who couldn't code his way out of an elementary school math problem
>wp comes after the scam
there is no value prop

in conclusion, I wish you all-in on this shitcoin so you never ever misinform anon again for the broke bastard you'll be

>>11439878
Bitter and spiteful. Unfounded and incorrect.

>>11439893
you sure convinced me with your artful arguments
as I said, all-in, nigger

>>11439898
I dont come here to convince, I come to shitpost & larp. You angry, go make a hot drink.

reminder that biz and their delegate buddies have 100s of K worth of ark for to dump and also talk with all the devs so they can control the entire network

how predictable that their new coin willl ve open to only biz delegate and other insider friends: the proles will be informed when its time to buy bags.

Its crypto 101, pathetic.

>muh data marketplace
>muh companies will actually pay to access said data marketplace
>muh currency meme token
you ARK bag holders realize companies can buy much more granular data from Facebook/YouTube without having to jump through decentralized hula hoops, r-right?

>>11439979
Wtf are you talking about? Don’t think that the /biz guys got that much, and if the had so many ark, why should they sell ffs?

>>11439807
Where did this wojak come from and why is he only associated with ARK?

>>11440054
biz and ark devs will start new coin which open to insiders
the goal is to create more bagholders to enrich themselves, since ark is run by their gang but price means it is not worthy to dump much more

the proles will become the bagholders while the pigs eat in the high castle, crypto 101

Pigs in biz and ark dine with french government etc, have secret rooms to make fun of proles and those carrying their ark bags. Yet proles still fall for it
Ark promised hardware but nothing released since 2016, just dumping and the delegate friends update the blockchain using microsoft office to decide who gets what coin

Invest if you want to lose it all and be humiliated

how do u thnk dr10 and jarunik stay in the delegate?

they are cartel owners on 5+ coins just like biz
rise, blockpool, and other shitcoins.

they keep votes since they are in with the devs and can print more ark to keep them there, voters have no power.

Ark has zero progress since 2016, just better wallet to trap more innocent bagholders for ever more scams from the PIGS

>>11439979
>>11440070
>>11440087
>>11440102
Nigger, you a dumb motherfucker. How you come up with all this shit is beyond me. Fuck you almost sound Bakez level retarded for fucks sake.

>>11440120
sounds like an illiterate communist who's salty he hasn't come up with a scam of his own desu

Sounds like that Lucasin0 cuckold from Reddit and the Slack. He even spaces like a plebbit cuck.

Where's the anime that roasts armies?

>>11440169
Are you looking for dinosaurs?

If you want the truth its a great project great people behind it, the company has all the paperwork for a reputable business to function from the law side of things, but the project is simply not complete yet, don't expect it to be fully realised till late 2020. And the biz delegates are invested fully in this project, so they are either deluded or are actually smart and see the only coin worth of value. But dont worry friends, youll only buy in after its 100$ a coin, as you always do.

>>11439807
The conference yesterday revealed to the world the stuttering potheads that run this scam.

Price has already tanked 10%. Once it breaks through the $1.50 resistance the panic will begin and small holders and speculators will begin to offload, with the whales already long gone.

Once it shoots through the $1 mark, unabated FEAR will ripe through all ARKies. With all those who dumped their current accounts into this scam twitching at their arsehole continuously while refreshing bittrex.

The $0.50 mark will be met, the largest panic in history will ensue. The final deluded Nodes will begin to go offline, and wagecuckers with their engineering salaries loaded up in ARK will be left with it stuck in their wallet, unable to move it to bittrex to salvage some self respect.

The price WILL tank at this point to sub $0.10, and most probably sub ICO levels.
2

From that day forward the deluded Arkie wagecucking engineering nerds who bought this coin thinking it had fundamentals will go back to their jobs, with no money in their current accounts, to be made redundant by the next wave of pajeets arriving to undercut their wages.

Deluded ARKies will hold bags FOREVER, with no job, no money, and no crypto.

I warned you ARKies. There's still time to get out. Sell NOW.

Don't be deluded, don't be an ARKie.

>>11440120
This. Honestly.

>>11440188

>>11440181
everyone on biz is selling this shit. the delegates just rescued the network three times in the space of two weeks, went nights without sleep with no reward for their work. The team left them hanging. In all honesty, things are not all good with how things will function from the law side of things. There are issues that will come to light that will be detrimental for the project, if you're not in the biz discord and talking with the real >deluded arkies you have not even the slightest clue of what is going on. My advice, just an anon on a board, sell. This shit isn't going to go anywhere, there's too many problems the team doesn't know how to deal with, and the community is a bunch of toxic self righteous cunts. It's like core ate reddit and shat out a retarded baby version of synth.

>>11440203
every satoshi you lose brings me pleasure

>>11440209
>the devs are facing problems that they dont know how to deal with
Such as?

>>11440086
me but unironically

>>11440209
You would consider this the final pump then?

>>11439807
Do as the delegates say anon.

>>11440209
Enlighten is then. Name all the problems we don’t know of.

>>11440249
network outtages, transaction validation, address validation, valid delegate lists that are required to determine who is meant to forge, oh and maybe the testnet txs on mainnet, or the withdrawals from Biitrex to Bitcoin addresses.

If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it is most probably and it's incredibly like that, it is in fact, a duck. These devs are fucked.

>>11440389
I hope not, it's too pitiful of a "pump" that I can even justify selling this low. I've sunk with this ship. Someone has to go with it....

>>11440434
Talk to the arkies, find them and put your questions to them. You will come to understand.

>>11440389
>>11440532
Correction, I meant to reply to this anon's post.
>>11440256

I hold 50k...my only green hold!

Someone always ends up holding the bags. At least anon's cope can be that his malinvestment came out of 2017 gains so no real loss for him

>>11440645
if you had it, and you lost it. It's a loss.

>>11440694
Losses are only known cures for myopic cultism as exhibited by deluded bagholders
I'm implying that even aforementioned retards were able to easily multiply their initial x-fold, producing no net loss in post bubble shitcoin deaths

>>11440532
> valid delegate lists that are required to determine who is meant to forge

What is the ARK delegate monitor?

>>11440901
Here >>11440532
https://explorer.dafty.net/delegateMonitor
Maybe this helps you idk

>>11440209
They received over 50,000 Ark for fixing it twice, not bad for a couple of 12hr thinking sessions and 2hrs to code and implement.
Biz and crypto kiddies are so reactionary its amusing.

Sooooo..... 30$ still in full play guys, r-right?

>>11440991
They consist of half dozen team members and it takes much of their day to maintain the shit network, effectively working for min wage whilst the founders stroke their cocks

>>11441020
more like 2 eoy.. no prlbem thoug.. keep on stakin

Ark has so many unsovable problems such as scalability and delegates that it becomes a laughing stock when being put aside other platforms such as EOS or Skycoin. Sorry OP, but even Ethererum is better than Ark in almost every way.

>>11441637
Interesting how the FUD increases up now that V2 is close to release.

>>11442246
Kek
>EOS
>Skycoin
>ETH

>>11440991
>They received over 50,000 Ark for fixing it twice
28k Ark from generous community donations. It was split 5 ways.

>>11440901
https://www.reddit.com/r/ArkEcosystem/comments/9nuusq/network_post_mortem_911_13_october_updates/

>>11441637
>working for min wage
5% of 422 daily forged ark at $0.70 is $15/day

>>11442304
Skycoin is the only decent thing on that comparison.

>>11442338
Add the 9k that Moon insta dumped. Still not 50k but closer.
>>11442354
Yeh shut up bakez

>>11442385
Moon got paid $10k in BTC, not Ark, and it was for something else unrelated.

>>11442404
are you still buying/accumulating?

>>11442452
No because of personal financial reasons. Still holding onto my stack for v2.

>>11442404
So theres that and the 9k in tips? He dumped 9k ark on binance
Got 10k btc
And then ~5 spilt 28k
So pretty much 50k ark.

>>11442476
9k ark in donations from what? The network outage a few weeks ago? That was also split amongst the team.

chang is not a neet
moon is a neet
moon is enamored by an idea that his 3 years late shapeshift no ico is going to save him (this is peak delusion)
chang is always calm, doesnt sperg on 4chan, studies, holds his ark.
who should we trust?

>muh wordpress of blockchain

>>11442674
make them fuck and have 2 kids:
Moonchang and Uncleman
trust the children cause they will inherit the best from both of them

>>11440203
This is my favorite image.

>>11442505
So you still believe in the project, Chang?

>>11442476
The $10k in BTC was for a security vulnerability that literally could not have been more severe.

>>11442865
Any chance you might fully return to ark?

>>11442882
Any chance the team stops kiking everyone that works for them?

(the answer is no)

>>11442898
Is it really that bad, or lets say: is there anyone on the team who is ok?

>>11442674
chang spergs in other places instead

Arkies

>>11442929
what did he mean by this?

>>11439807
>Are you still holding?
Since June '17
>Are you excited for V2?
Not anymore
>Do you want Moon back active in ARK?
Did he stop?
>What are your eoy expectations
$1.50 EOY

I'll check back in a couple more years. If this ever takes off it'll be great, but I can only handle so much sustained artificial hype. I wouldn't be surprised if V2 gets pushed back another 6 months

Skycoin is great and Mike and Ark like skycoin too!

>>11442915
Of course not. They're French.

>>11443393
not just french, there are members of la creatura and squatmaster and chingchong and vietcong, pretty much the entire spectrum of idle world scum

>>11442464
Gonna dump after V2 or keep on hodling most of your stack?

>>11442865
Good God this project looks like it's in shambles

>>11440120
>>11440190
the team and devs, delegates use ARK to fund their other shitcoins

Why u cant see this?

They want you to buy their bags so they fund their next scam.

Name one dev or delegate who isnt in a new coin now?

6000BTC but they rather use ARK inflation and dumping from the dev wallet to fund new development (except on other shitcoins, not called ARK)

>>11444179
Oh boy.

>>11444179
ARK hodler here. You might be right, sadly. I dont know what to do, since I already lost 5x on ARK.

>>11444933
I think the next 12 months will be crucial for Ark and the whole crypto space in
general. Most people won’t have the guts to hold for another year, but I truly want to believe that this patience will be rewarded. I know, totally deluded. But i just dgaf

>>11445418
Yep... Im with you. Deluded as well. I will hold, since it is going UP, and V2 in november/december.

>>11445480
dude it's ark. gonna be late man everything moves a little slower.

>>11445418
I was avoinding 4chan for awile, like 2 months. Kept my faith in ARK, but man the FUD is VERY strong in here.
Makes me confused and doubt the project.

Like that side channel on discord; the team dumping on us to enrich themselves or fund another project... It is plausible. Makes me feel like a fool.
We will see...

>>11445525
Do the opposite of what Biz says

>>11445537
Thank you, made me feel a little better haha :)

>>11439807
Are you still holding?
Yep
Are you excited for V2?
Yep
Do you want Moon back active in ARK?
Fuck that fat fuck
What are your eoy expectations, is 30$ just a meme?
Meme...2.00 at best

>>11440901
>>11440919
Maybe you two fucking morons really do not realise how bad the problems are. I know what the delegate monitor is. I'm a delegate. I also know that there were mismatching snapshots that had different balances for addresses which inevitably lead to an inability for delegates to agree on who had how much voting for them and eachother. This then lead to what is referred to, and keep your reading cap on for a second to understand this one, an Expected Generator Error. That's an error where a delegate forges, but not all the delegates were in agreeance (quorum) that the delegate that forged was meant to.

In short, your dumb. I'm dumping, and this shitcoin is still fucked.

>>11446258

They’re literally dumping all of that code in V2. They know the code is buggy which is why they’re upgrading.

>>11446258
Dump your stack and get lost homo..you will fomo in when v2 is launch

>>11440991
>>11442338
>>11442385
Chang is being honest. They were given ~30K Ark by fellow delegates, and "community" members. I won't say who, or how much. But, that was only as a donation for their hard work. Keep in mind, these guys were up for days on end, doing the same monotonous shit, all the while Dj SaladGoy sat around posted bullshit tweets about Ark being on DeltaWatch or sth, his gf Carlye sucking him, and the rest of Ark America chatting shit until the delegates saved their asses. Meanwhile, over on the froggier side of things our good friend and resident >tard, fx thoorens was threatening to pump out a premature V2 to rectify the situation.

So, on the one hand you have people doing nothing waiting for the network to get fixed by unpaid, or underpaid volunteers, on the other hand you have literal tard that thinks pushing an incomplete and untested testnet to mainnet is the right way to approach issues.

Anywhoozle, as they say, I reckon you ask the team how much they offered the 5 guys that saved their network. It's mentioned in their Leddit post that >they will be given an Official Bounty. So go for it, ask, see how shitty it is being a delegate, and saving a multimillion dollar payments system.

>>11443347
Shut up, Bakez.

>>11445585
Join the biz_classic discord, find us and we'll explain the full thing for you. All is not what it seems, this is no ether.

>>11446258
FUD me harder.

>>11446347

Care to screen cap?

>>11446526
No.

>>11446541

Then fuck off. If you fags hate Ark so much, why do I have to join a delegate discord to hear the story?

>>11446347

>this is no ether

Is the team made of pedophiles that wipe their boogers on the wall? People seem to think ethereum isn’t a shit heap. It is.