/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>11362741
john travolta looks like he has jaundice :(

>>11362741
I guess it's either join or leave.

>>11362741
Brazil's becoming a police state?

"freeze bitch where is your fucking hat bitch. how dare you work at the counter here at mc d's without wearing your hat!"

>>11362741
Bolsonaro is literally Brazil's only hope

>>11362765
it probably will
the majority wants a north korea over a venezuela

>>11362741
Yeah when your murder rate is like Brazil and you have apps telling you where there is stray bullets flying around town it's not a surprise the law and order candidate handily wins over the limp wristed one

>>11362773
t. Northeastern mutt

>>11362773
Nationalizing industries and funneling the money for your personal wealth? That sounds more like Lula than Bolsonaro...

>>11362741
He is not a fascist, you libtard.
He is a populist, the last hope to Brazil do not become the next Venezuela

>>11362773
>the majority wants a north korea
Well, they have to put in some work to make that racial purity thing happen.

>>11362778
the thing is, he will allows cops to kill "bad" guys and reward them, as he said
what people lacks to understand is that the cops here are corrupt as well (as fuck)

>>11362789
it is happening already

my one Brazilian e-friend who has a deep understanding of politics, evolutionary psychology and philosophy thinks he is the shit.

I don't know how the fuck people vote for the Maduro-worshipping party. I think we've established pretty clearly that shoveling oil money at peasants does not a sustainable economy make.

>>11362802
"delegate says Nazi swastika marked in a woman by Bolsonaro supporters is "Buddhist symbol"
>the absolute state

>>11362823
Your friend must be super dumb then

>>11362741
Brazil has one of the highest crime and murder rates in the world (the northeast especially). The solution to the problem is obvious: to unleash the police, to enact tougher laws, etc. China would have high crime rates too if it weren't for it's tough stance against criminals. Countries need governments that respond to to crime with proportional strength. Currently, it seems that Brazil tries to fight Latin American-style organized crime crime with Scandinavian law enforcement, which obviously doesn't work. This needs to change.

>>11362832
it was proved fake...im sure someone carving a swastica into flesh would look like a fucking cutter

>>11362910
So you really trust yourself and your family with the police in a country where they helped crime and murder to grow and even controls certain areas.
ok...
oh, and btw, it will be your voice (poor) against the police

>>11362877
I'd estimate 150+ verbal IQ

there are countersignalling hierarchies all the way up the intelligence scale; for almost any position you can imagine there is a more subtle counterargument at a greater level of abstraction or sophistication, which is why I (and probably he also) tend to give relatively less weight to the consensus of the managerial castes.

>>11362927
still

>>11362741
BUSINESS
and
FINANCE

>>11362960
TIME TO SHORT REAL AND GO BALLS DEEP INTO BTC

>>11362945
Yes, I absolutely trust the police to do its job. The more criminals they kill, the better. I'm Brazilian though I've been living in the US for past ten years. I've seen how things work here. Police in the US is way tougher than Brazil's still they are much more trust. Cops here are more independent and empowered. They're also much quicker to pull the trigger if they feel that their life is under threat. And they almost always get away with it because the legal system protects them.

The result? Infinitely lower crime rates. I feel safe here, and it's thanks to the police and their guns. Let's build a better world, let's start sending that scum to hell ASAP. Crime and violence are in part driven by biological factors. For some people, there's nothing you can do but to remove them from the gene pool (or to keep them imprisoned).

>>11362741
>>11362765
Bolsonaro's plan is to eliminate crime in Brazil by supporting 2nd amendment rights for Brazilian people. Everyone will be free to buy gones.

I think this is great. This is freedom spreading throughout the world.

>>11362910
It's a mentality problem. You can make law enforcement as strict as possible, and this will not change that Latin American mentality where they have no idea that you have to sacrifice your interests for the sake of the common good.

>>11362802
>>11362832

It is not a swastika, retard. It is a manji. obvious false-flag

Everybody I don't like is a fascist

>>11362949
Kek. Mate your friend thinks Bolsonaro is the shit and your telling me his IQ is 150?! Either that means that he's on the spectrum and therefore completely irrelevant in terms of political acumen, or you're larping. Have you ever read Bolsonaro's program??? Forget all the racist and homophobic stuff the media is crying about. Just go read his fucking program and then come to 4chan with a straight-face telling me how your friend who's 150 IQ likes him. You and your friend are just dead in the head the mate.

>>11363035
dude, you're just missing one simple but huge thing
>The more criminals they kill
The cops will decide if you're a criminal or not
if you are a fkin poor nigger and he wants to fk with you, he'll do it, it'll be his words against yours, a poor fag

>>11363105
he literally said in interviews he's favorable to torture, death penalty, will allow people to buy guns (then everybody will be a poor fag armed with no job), and if some innocent people dies while he "saves" Brazil, it wont matter
fkin kek

>>11363063
>Mentality problem
Lmao wtf

>It will never change because people in Latin America never change
What the fuck was that argument?

People DO change. Brazil (and Latin America in general) had way lower crime rates until the 1950. Do you know why? Because most people lived in rural areas where there was greater social control (read: it was easier to police), like small towns. People were more religious also, and family structure was more stable (lower divorce rates, better care for the kids, etc.) In other words, people were better regulated by local institutions. Everything changed with out of control urbanization (1970s). The government lost control, and people began to settle in irregular areas. It's totally possible to fix the problem, we only need tougher laws and law enforcement for 20 to 30 years until people learn to self regulate.

>>11362741
I do not even care about this guy. Since when as Brazil done anything to the US. That's right nothing.

>>11362788
Fascism is good. Fascism > Communism.

>>11363115
>The cops will decide if you're a criminal or not
I've lived in Brazil most of my life and I can assure you that this is not how things work. Even if things worked this way, I would still trust cops in making that decision (it's their job after all to identify criminals and protect people against them).

>>11363142
>by giving policemen a free pass to murder with impunity, and using torture in poor and black people
Sure will solve the problem, cuz that's the root of it all, right?

>>11363150
well, while USD tanked i was holding BRL, which only raised in comparison, and now i bought this btc dip. ;)

>>11363163
Straw man argument, I never said that. You're making up stuff and distorting what I said, typical of low IQ people who run out of ideas. Your future isn't bright, but good luck nevertheless.

>>11363190
I turned 0.18 btc (since jan) into 0.62 this morning
yea, a poor fag, but i think it's good for a low iq monky
anyway, thanks

brazil will always be a shit hole country. now their corrupt government and police force will just be able to do as they please with complete impunity

>>11363199
>I turned 0.18 btc (since jan) into 0.62 this morning
WOW you're so rich!! That was hilarious, thanks for the laugh.

>>11362741
i think it's great, i hope he throws a coup on the first day of office and sends all the black people to work on large plantations.
i also hope he encourages bitcoin startups. shit could you imagine... no niggers, just a high tech entrepreneurial tropical fascist paradise filled with hot brazilian babes, where the cost of living is dirt cheap, and white men rule everything free from jewish parasites. truly my dream.

>>11363215
i said i'm a poor fag tho... '-'
anyway, most people here are at a loss
So i feel good with this little gain

>>11363229
dude don't let him get you down, you tripled your money, that's a 300% gain in a day. you did great and are right to boast about it.

>>11363229
You didn't gain anything, bro. Btc lost 70% of its value since January. You only needed to hold Fiat to gain btc.

>>11363247
He didn't triple his money, retard. Btc went from 17k to 6k since he bought in, in case you haven't noticed. He would be doing the same had he held Fiat.

Holy shit sunmerfags are the worst.

>>11363247
Thanks, fren

>>11363251
Sure thing...

>>11363251
>>11363229
oh haha i missed the since january part.
oof. still, plenty of people have lost money so it's not all that bad.
anyways the solution to the brazil problem is to lock up all the nonwhite people and put them to work on plantations.
here, we already have a model for you in the US:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ABpWhY5Xzk

>>11363270
see >>11363285

>>11363274

>>11363274
Yes, retard, you know I'm right. You bought the top then worked hard.to increase your btc 3x when you could simply have held Fiat.

>>11363270
wrong
how's 0.18 btc in the jan dip (8k when i bought) equals to 0.62 btc now (6.2k)?
i've been trading even since, fot rekt sometimes but not in general

And here comes the communist pig. Bolsonaro is literally the only hope for that shithole.
And if you weren't blind and a fucking faggot you would know how brazils economics are going to get better with him. He isn't even a fascist lol.

>>11363300
Dude, stop bragging about it, this is embarrassing.

>>11362802
Totally real. Not a false flag at all.

>>11363302
go watch some videos of north korea dude
oh right, there isnt
(sarcasm)

>>11363310
i'm sorry for your loss

>16 posts by this id
The commie fag is just desperated for attention.

>>11363313
OP there is nothing wrong with Fascism when white people do it. Yeah, of course insectoids are going to make a shitty communist government.
White people are much, much better rulers.
You'll see once my boy Bolsonaro gets elected and overthrows the government.

>”Kill them, Bolsonaro. Kill them all”

>>11363329
Man, you're poor and pathetic. You may brag about your 0.62 btc, but you are the one who's losing.
>muh police is so evil
Way to go buddy.

>>11363339
lol sorry if i'm answering who reply to me in the threat that i made

>>11363358
i just don't trust the corrupted police from here

>tfw you made it but goes to prison because you reacted after a cop tried to rape your girlfriend

I wished so much that he actually was a fucking fash. Only that way Brazil would be clean from faggots like OP.
And remember: He's going to win. No matter how much you shill here, he's already going to win with 58% of the intentions.

>>11363135
>this implies fascism
Fascism is used to paint people with authoritarian opinions as bad
Sometimes in undisciplined crime-ridden shitholes, authoritarianism is the only solution. But elite politicians prefer having it remain the same because how else are they supposed to receive bribes from narco gangs? Thus they try their best to destroy the image of the candidate that poses the greatest threat to them, often pandering to dumb scum and and paying educted people to appear to be the “better knowing ones”

holy shit i'm looking at condo's in Florianopolis, $100k for a one bedroom apartment?? wtf that is dirt cheap
PLS PLS PLS BOLSONARO TURN BRAZIL FASCIST SO I CAN MOVE THERE

>>11362910
Lol. The reason Latin/South American countries have high crime rates is because being a hot-headed reactionary psycho is considered a virtue. And you can’t let people “disrespecting” you get away with it.

In contrast most Asian cultures avoid conflict.

>>11362741
real fascism is literally the only thing that can save Brazil.

>>11363871
>Cultural determinism
Nah it's laws. Brazil has very lenient laws. Asian countries are much tougher in dealing with crime.

>>11362741
First off why are you bring this up here? This is much more /pol/ related, if you wanted to talk about his economic shit sure, but your not. This is low tier shit nigga but not surprised with how low tier your posts have been in this thread.

First off if >>11362802 is not bait your retarded.
Second off>>11363135 is both insulting to police states and fascism. Learn the difference, it may save your life one day in the near future.
Thirdly Bolsonaro will win regardless of if you like it or not, get used to the idea. Either kys or level with the fact.

>>11363999
so edgy
a minion

>>11362741

that’s good, so what’s the best way to long brazil’s resurgence?

Há is not fascist you comunist piece of shit

>>11363999
CHECKED IM GOING TO MOVE TO FASCIST BRAZIL AND PAY FOR THE WHOLE THING WITH MY BITCOINS HNNGGGGGHGG

>>11362741
The left is chimping out about a right-wing candidate as per usual.

How come the guy is labeled a menace when he is coming to power through majority of popular vote? Are they implying the population doesn't know better or has the right to decide what's best for them? MSM is a scam and the whole world knows it by now, you need only follow the money trail.

>Tough, Trump-inspired (he literally said he's greatly inspired by Trump's MO) right winger dude is expected to win
>Announced Chicago school economist for ministry of finance seat
>MSM doomsaying all over the place over some remarks on killing criminals in one of the most chronically crime ridden countries in the world
>Currency in best shape since election season began
>Stock markets at all time high

I wonder what percentage of journalist/leftie groupthink is cognitive dissonance and delusion versus plain old (((guerrilla tactics)))

I don't support fascists but I'm all for killing communists, so basically I'm indifferent.

>>11362741

remember when the economist was a respected magazine?

>>11363871

nah its because this

>>11362910
I need a hi-res version of this

>>11362741
Bolsonaro isn't a fascist

>>11362772
Would be more true if he were actually fascist. Fascism is the true counterpoint to Marxist, and was formulated as a reaction to rampant communism. Communism is outright tyranny, fascism is the freedom to do what you want, with the limitation that it provide some benefit for the whole. (((Capitalism))) has no such limitations, and it’s a fucking mess.

>>11364705
That's unfortunate, I was starting to like him

>>11362794
So it's better to keep the status quo?

>>11364705
Sadly

>>11362741
shut up filthy commie
go back to pol suck dicks

>>11362741
Doesn't he want to liberalize gun laws? There's a reason right wing dictators don't tend to do that. Most Brazilians are 89IQ and don't realize what they voted for and if he really follows through on rolling back workers rights and trying to privatize everything it could end badly

>>11364774

Actually, really well put anon.

>>11363999
checked

>>11362741
Economist: literally owned by the Rothschilds. You can't make this shit up.

>>11362741
not reading the thread. Bolsonaro is the best thing to happen to brazil since the Portuguese first arrived

You’re a colossal idiot.

>>11362741
Who gives a fuck about a shithole third world country. The way i see it, the more chaotic the result, the closer we are to the collapse of this garbage society. So im 100% in favor of bolsonaro

>>11362741
Buy helicopter stocks

>>11363042
2nd amendment rights work in white countries, not in niggerland. You will have corruption and an epidemic of guns that will go out of control

Send big bunda refugees to America

>>11362772
I wish. But his new/old views regarding privatisations will ruin this country again. Recently he said that he'll give a 13º to all Bolsa-Familia parasites as well.

He's a imbecile. A populist with no morals

>>11362786
Two sides of the same coin

>>11362741
people all over the globe sperg right now, if rationality doesn't win we all get glassed it's that simple.

>>11363035
In Brazil, being racist is a crime.
Keep it in mind

>>11363358
this
those gooks can't even hit the 10+ million deathtoll

>>11363974
Violent crime can be considered a civil matter in China, Japan, and Korea. Police there are notoriously worthless unless enforcing some bullshit edict of the state. (Cracking down on labor unions, speech, etc.) Sometimes you beat the shit out of someone or hit them with your car and the police don't want to be bothered, so they just make you "promise" to repay the family or the victim's hospital bills.

Japanese police regularly just blame women for rape and don't report it. Not out of any grudge or prejudice against women, just "You're not my family so I don't give a shit. Let me go nap and collect my government paycheck."

Even factoring that - all of them are extremely safe countries for going out at night and so on.

>>11362741
oh vey democracy is a menace when our friends don't win!

>>11367018
Bolsonaro is a supporter of Israel though

>>11367018
>Thinks "democracy" existed
And they say North Koreans are brainwashed.
There's just power and $$$. (Same thing)

>>11367041
I'm not even sure if anybody here actually hates "Jews" as an actual people or some nebulous "the man" concept.

Jews are the most right-wing/Nazi-ish religion/ethnic group possible if left to their own devices. (Israel).

They're only liberal when it benefits them (in EU or USA) because DERP, they're a minority there. Of course you want the state to be more amenable and equitable to all ethnic groups, because you're a minority. Another minority can take you out or usurp your influence - so "equality" will be implemented.

You'd have to be an idiot not to. If you were a white person in Asia you can't justify your own equality when they don't give a shit about giving it to their actual indigenous minorities. You'd have to call it "for all". And then do your own thing.

>>11367100
sounds like cope
idgaf
they're causing bad shit in my country and harm to my people

>>11367100
always some -stein apologist in here bending himself in knots to excuse the chosenites when the answer is "overcome your brainwashing and accept that they are bad for us"

>>11364535
>Are they implying the population doesn't know better or has the right to decide what's best for them?

They literally do. I'm from Germany, and even here leftist journalists whine about the election in Brazil. In 'Die Zeit', a guy literally made that argument: The poor, brown and black masses are voting against 'their interests' which he considered to be more government control, more welfare and identity politics.

Only the white privileged classes are cunningly voting for the next Hitler because it serves their evil interests, but all those poor brown and black people they just don't know what they are doing. It's the kind of crypto-marxism that has infiltrated the politcal mainstream in my country:

If you are poor and/or non-white you are not an individual anymore, you are part of a class that only has class interests, and guess who knows your class interests better than yourself: That sociology student that now writes for 'Die Zeit'. Reading Marx and Adorno has enabled him to figure out what's right for you, and if you fail to realize it he might have to force you for your own good.

Wants open up the Amazon to logging and mining - he's a fucking idiot

>>11362741
>praising a fascist
fascist doesn't have the same meaning it used to.
If he liberalizes the economy I think things will be fine. Globalists don't care about people outside of being economic units anyway.

>>11362741
Fascism is the only thing that can save a brown socialist slum like Brazil.
By the way you are already killing each others at a super high rate Joao so I don't know wtf you are afraid about, unless you are a criminal yourself.

>>11367220
The patronizing tone of european journalists (who are at 95% champagne socialists and neoliberals) is so infuriating.
Worst part is that where I live they are massively subsidized so I basically pay taxes for these smug sºyboys and roasties to virtue signal and patronize people on the other side of the planets, makes me sick and angry when I think about it.