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11323456 No.11323456 [Reply] [Original]

What would the instruments to look for in next market crash to 10x or more?

I'm thinking on shorting SPXL maybe but not sure if this is available then. The 3x short ETF's like UVXY or such are unusable because of contango.

>> No.11323482

>>11323456
Precious metals, Bitcoin, monero.

Don't play with fire and try to be fancy with options. The institutions backing them may go insolvent.

>> No.11323497

>>11323482

Gold would only moon if fear lasts for years like in 2008 when the top for gold was in 2011 because still lingering fear.

>> No.11323542

Leveraged gold CFD might actually do the job though cause it at least goes somewhat up for sure instantly.

>> No.11323844

>>11323456
>shorting SPXL
why not just go long the inverse equivalent of SPXL, the SPXS?
for every leveraged bull etf there is leveraged bear etf (the inverse), and there is shitload of them, not just lev. bull S&P500 (SPXL), but also specialized etfs of s&p sectors (financials, reit, transport, tech, etc…) each in both ways, bull and bear with 1.25x, 2x or 3x leverage.
just go have a look at portfolio of lev. etfs from direxion http://www.direxioninvestments.com/#
but overall, once we will be in a confirmed downtrend (forget you can spot and catch the exact reversal from the top), long the leveraged inverse nasdaq index SQQQ. In recession, the growth stocks and stock of the companies with most bad debt are flushed the hardest.

>> No.11324063

>>11323844

Because of contango. 3x is not 3x. Every leveraged ETF goes to zero in the end. Therefor shorting falling one looks better.

>> No.11324085

Look at the leverage ETFs in 2008, they made maybe 2x - 3x and then pulled back fiercely. Useless.

>> No.11324980

Out of the money put options if you cant burn money on them

>> No.11325532
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11325532

>>11323456
>be obama
>print 10 trillion dollars for banks
>be bank
>lend money 100-1 in reserve
there will be no market crash until we start talking about quadrillions of dollars.

>> No.11325655

>>11324980
This. Don't be a pussy.