/biz/ - Business & Finance

First for /smg/ Force

Microcap conference on monday.
Whats gonna pump?

Why do you guys keep posting the thread 20 posts early? Also here's some OC. I wonder how that anon who got burned from tesla puts is doing.

all in on AMD / VZ / RICK / ABCFF

r8

Have you all lost all your money yet?

Any ROAD holders?

Okay one more post on the Kavanaugh thing and then I'll keep it to /smg/ topic, although I believe this will have an effect on the midterm elections, and the midterm elections will definitely have an effect on the market trends.

Today during the hearing, Senator Lindsey Graham did one hell of a mic drop on the whole sham. It is a thing of beauty.

Republicans to gain seats in the midterms. Long the golden bull. That is all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKSRUK-l7dM

>>11233033
Source??

>>11233167
>>/pol/

what are you? 12? nobody gives a shit here. Trade the fucking trade. political shit is for retarded people that are easily distracted by useless garbage. KYS

https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/tsla-market-action-2018-investor-roundtable.105308/page-1969
>Why do I feel like this is primarily politically motivated by oil interests...

>SEC seems fraudulent to me.
>much more than the chance that Elon is/was
>I assume no one involved in the SEC has any friends that have any interest in TSLA. that would be illegal right?

>This is my speculation: SEC is under pressure from the shorts to do something. Elon and his lawyers insist he did nothing wrong. So SEC decided to go to the court. I will continue to save cash for the next buying opportunity.

>>11233046
That Recoome is an un-ironic upgrade from the original.

>>11233185
Its somewhat related though. The more divisive a midterm the more likely the market does well typically.

Anyway, tomorrow morning I expect about an hour of red followed by a gently rising trend for the remainder of the day on the major indices. Today's dump was as fake as the morning pump.

>>11233185
>politics doesn't affect markets

50% FB portfolio anon here, up 0.95% today yee yee

>>11233247

> Today's dump was as fake as the morning pump.
Noob here. What is this based on?

>>11233254
>>11233239
no shit politics effects the market but trying to predict it is stupid as fuck. Trade the shit after it happens. You all going to gamble on it before it happens or are you going to trade the fucking price action after happens?

I sometimes forget this thread is full of newfags

>>11233152
no but me was very close T_T
luckily me got control of self in time

>>11233267
Wait, none of us are supposed to speculate with any portion of our portfolio? Well shit.

>>11233267
>trade the shit after it happens

>>11233226
I'm going to overdose on reading all the TMC baggy threads tonight. this is gold.

>>11233264

I believe the market hit volatility based on a few things. It is uneasiness on the part of investors rather than a sincere opinion about the direction of the trend. Quick ups and downs because everyone is nervous but, at the same time, not confident of continued sell offs either. I have no source as this is just my opinion on the trading patterns of the day.

>>11233281
politics is a waste of time. Trade the trade.

>>11233284
think you can predict shit over and over and you will see your portfolio at 0 in no time. Let me guess you been in the market for 1 year max?

>>11233288
A mod invented a "no gloat rule" out of thin air because of this very moment and has banned/deleted posts that called them out on their nonsense.

Lost about 20k before I learned to use a stop loss

>>11233299
>think you can predict shit over and over
So every investment you've ever made isn't a prediction, but rather an objective future that you have some special insight into?

>>11233289

So how did you do based on this observation?

Sorry to prod, I'm just super green and trying to see why people do what from as many angles as possible.

>>11233312
getting into a position in the anticipation of a political event is speculation not investing.

don't confuse buying a stock for an investment with buying a stock in speculation for a political event

>>11233033
whats the name of that mom po?

>>11233185
>>11233267
>literally being this autistic

>>11233341
You've moved the goalpost from.
>politics is a waste of time
to
>getting into a position in the anticipation of a political event is speculation not investing.
Understanding the political environment while investing is not a "speculation." Ignoring the political environment is willful ignorance, especially considering how intertwined the government is with the market.
>don't confuse buying a stock for an investment with buying a stock in speculation for a political event
Don't confuse mexican tranny cock as a better investment than your gf.

>>11233341
I would say trading solely on politics is one thing, but taking it as a single factor is just playing with all the information. For instance, tariffs are political.

>>11233390
Exactly. A supreme court seat can play a massive role in markets.
see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lochner_era

Are there any public nuclear energy companies? IF we can nail fussion energy, that changes the game.

>>11233378
>literally going to lose their money thinking they can gamble on political events
GL kiddo. enjoy being part of the 90% of losers in the market thinking you can beat it.

>>11233388
buying before a politcal event is speculation. You are a complete newfag grim. we all know this. Trade the trade newfag.

>>11233390
Trade the trade. Who cares who president is? who cares what mid terms do?

Trade the upside. Trade the downside. Trade the trade.

>>11233341

Kavanaugh's appointment and the incoming red storm has been priced in for months newfren.

>>11233443
>politcal

>>11233454
did you run out of normal newfag shit to respond with? Thought so. Good luck losing all your money grim.

anyone else here think that snapchat is gonna come out of the shitter, i had high hopes snap was gonna hit at least 10 bux a share but it tanked

>>11233477
>trade the trade
>trade the trade
>trade the trade

>>11233505
how does it feel being poor?

Dividend frens please help.

>KO or PEP
>MO or PM
>TM or GM or F

>>11233324

Today had a lot of small order movements on the stuff I was watching, especially the big blue chippies. Sporadic order movements on level 2 (this is the extended bid/ask ledger). Usually when I see that kind of thing in combination with economic uncertainty over tariffs, the fed's interest rate hikes, yes the upcoming midterm elections in the US, and so on, I interpret it as nervousness on the part of the markets. Things don't get short term grim until you see mass algo dumps like the kind that happened back in February.

>>11233477
>he says as he changes his diaper

>>11233522
why pick sides when you could just buy them all?

>>11233522
I will be looking at F/GM/TM in January if tariffs cool down

LABU LABU

>>11233527
wow another great response. Good job kiddo. Way to step up your game.

>>11233542
yeah fords gone down some too but im too prideful to let it go lmao

How does this never fail?

>>11233532
I initially want to stick with one company per sector.

>>11233046
Half of them are mountain Time, so just wait a couple hours

>>11233501
>>11233554
why are you holding onto shit?

>>11233554
Just holding a little for the X plan pricing, if your a truck boy, is more than enough to make up for any price drop.

>>11233522
Buy PEP

>>11233556
why do 90% of traders fail?

>>11233591
Because they listen to big five guy

>>11233591

Don't you know 100% of traders fail?

So how many of you are underwater with GALT and ECR?

>>11233591
Because they don't put any substantial thought into trades and just fucking meme around. I work with the people who failed to save in life. Its fucking stressful as hell, all they have done is burn money and even when presented with a plan to save for their sorry broke asses they want to argue they can swing 12% on the stock market despite only losing money when they tried to play it for the past 34 years. These people are doctors, lawyers, engineers. Bright delusional idiots why refuse to exert effort in their investments or change their ways despite numerous longterm failures.

God I am so triggered

kek just found out old forex account no completely liquidated
when USD/CAD gonna dump ;_;

>>11233601

I bought 300 shares of BAC. Please tell me I'm not going to die.

>>11233615
I found my old one from Brexit two months ago and It for some reason still had 3k in it. Was a nice surprise.

>>11233606
GALT is not the same thing as ECR
Delet immediately

>>11233565
lol at this point im just waiting to get back to what i originally started with and dump all this shit and start over
>>11233579
im in it for the long haul i keep telling myself its "gotta go back up eventually right?"

>>11233625
Youll probably make money

>>11233635
I keep telling myself "I like trucks" unless I enter a larger position I don't mind if this is halved personally.

what do you guys think about putting money into India instead of VOO/VFF?

China ETFs are too volatile but India looks pretty stable.

>>11233424
LTBR

>>11233619
>>11233601
you mean they don't do any real DD

spotted part of the 90% good job kiddos.

>>11233614
Crazy how stupid some people are especially when they have such high degrees of education.

>>11233634
did i ever say they are the same?

>>11233635
you're holding onto SNAP and F expecting to break even? when? 10 years from now?

SNAP still has over 300million shares that have not hit the float. F has employee stock options that have been destroying the stock for years. You should really learn how to do DD

>>11233659
well i have other shit but i dont regulaly check them, whats dd im new to /biz/

>>11233659
>Such failure and negative returns

Spotted the big5guy, don't you have tranny's to invest in?

>>11233606
GALT isn't even at the lowest it's been this month.

I'm having a comfy time making money off of selling covered calls and holding.

>>11233659
>following my footsteps is the equivalent of not doing any DD

>>11233681
how does it feel being poor grim? really curious to know.

>>11233679
never once said i was Big5guy

>>11233675
dd means doing your own research on a company before you buy it (ie: not just buying because some anon on /biz/ told you to)

>>11233176
>>11233369
http://affiliates.mature.nl/free/x/track/6405/picture/146?nats=37644.1.1.1.0.49036.0.0.0

>>11233694
>never once said I was Big5guy
I'm not part of this shitposting brigade right now, but if you aren't the big guy in the flesh I will fucking eat my own foot.

>>11233694
>never once said i was Big5guy
Well if course, your new trips have been for months now

But this is getting off topic, like a tasteful shot of your "calves"

If you're investing in S&P 500 companies, the dividends they pay out will usually be fairly insignificant in comparison to the increase in stock value in bull markets, right? Obviously they could make a difference in a bear market in terms of preventing total losses, but aren't the dividends just something to show that you're a company worth investing in?

>>11233721
Dividends have two purposes:
1. An Incentive to buy a stock because it isn't good enough on its won to draw investors
2. They literally don't have a better way to spend the money

>>11233033
Who is this gril?

>>11233713
>your new trips
??

>>11233721
cause theyre supposed to pay you as you now own part the buisness

>>11233583
Are you at all concerned about their debt?

>>11233757
no, its expected to be high

When will ACBFF trading be reopened on robinhood?
#16 in popularity and the only thing we can do is hold or sell...no wonder its bleeding.

>>11233754
>>11233694
>>11233659

>>11233741
>Being this fucking retarded

>>11233791
>When will ACBFF trading be reopened on robinhood?

That's weird. Why did Robinhood disallow buy orders on Aurora? I'm a leaf so not familiar with Robinhood and OTC strangeness.

>>11233816
wow another great reply. Good job. absolutely amazing how original you are.

>>11233749
>>11233703

PRISON SECURED LOL

>leave for a few hours
>grim and the rest of the thread have thouroughly baited big5
Nice read, luv u guys

>>11233033
Who is this?

>>11233819
>Not knowing what dividends are for
>Being smug about your lack of understanding

>duUede trad duh TRAD BROOO

>>11233859
>>11233847

>>11233819
whats retarded about that?

sure there is more to dividends but those two points aren't too retarded.

>>11233881
Sure if you want to get into it Insurance companies use it to fund their whole life policies but how the fuck does that knowledge benefit some scrub here?

shud i buy spy calls

>>11233889
>how the fuck does that knowledge benefit some scrub here?
scrubs here have a hard time gaining knowledge in general

>>11233833
Too many buy orders the system couldnt keep up.

>>11233876
>>(You)
thanks fren

I think I've found a new meme. Its name is PER, currently trading at $2.60/share with 22.6% div/yield.

>>11233951
Dividend is high because the stock tanked hard. As I said earlier, its an incentive for people to buy a shitty stock.

>>11233951
Just added to my watchlist.

>>11233962
>Tanked hard
You mean in 2014? When everything oil related tanked? Not really an issue these days.

Also the dividend is high because it's a royalty trust, not a stock. The entire purpose of the trust is to slowly liquidate assets and pass the proceeds to shareholders through distributions.

does anyone know why anyone would use a stock broker that charges CAD$25 per commission? Apparently I get level 2 quotes with it but i don't know how useful that is if I just want to play ETFs. Cashed out all my weed stocks, it's too much for my heart, stop limits are useless since they get triggered pretty much instantly.

I only picked Scotiabank since I already had an account with them. TD is like $10 per comission but they are down 100% the time weed stocks crash or FOMO too hard.

I bought SHLD I'll hold it to the grave

>>11234097
It's dead dude sorry

>>11234032
My bad just looked at charts briefly. Just look into its payback period, shelf life, and production mix.

Are my spy calls going to get raped even more tomorrow?
RIP

>>11234148
#metoo lad

>>11233703
Thnx

>>11234213

>>11233935

Pfftt... Robinhood a shit if it can't handle the dude weed volume.

>>11234304
Seriously though, it has been rather sluggish the past few days.
Probably need to upgrade their servers.

>>11234067
>does anyone know why anyone would use a stock broker that charges CAD$25 per commission?

No that's stupid expensive. For bank brokerages I suggest RBC. It's $9 and change to start and I have never had any problems with outages. It was slow to load only once, and that was during the climax of the 2017 weed bull run on January 2, 2018.

There are other options besides banks. I guess Questrade is alright but I have no personal experience with them.

As far as level 2 goes, that is not critical for ETFs and your ordinary long hold investing. Level 2 is more of a swing and day trader's tool where a few cents one way or the other are very important. It's also a rampant platform for shitposting with money, lots of bluffs and fake outs and manipulative tricks to make a stock look like it's about to do something when it, surprise surprise, does no such thing and the bid or ask wall that was there vanishes.

I currently have three solid stocks, but I want my portfolio to ultimately have seven. Was hoping I could get some feedback from /smg/.

I have my workhorse stock, which rarely dips below 1.2% profits. It's in tech.

I haven't found my #1 stock, the one I'm really passionate about and believe in, but I'm really starting to like Monster. I've always enjoyed their products, they're expanding their lineup, and they're making some really neat leaps and bounds. Their balance sheet is pretty impressive.

I have my two "growth" stocks which have a higher E/PS but are generally solid returns in retail and restaurant/hospitality. I've avoided having too many stocks in identical sectors.

I'm still looking for two slow-burning stocks, stocks which aren't exciting or don't grow in leaps and bounds but are consistently in the green, even if just slightly.

I still don't have my "gamble" stock, but I'm considering Micron or a trust-fund (PER, which was mentioned earlier, comes to mind). Maybe ATT.

Any ideas, /smg/? I've generated a 6% profit in the 30 days I've been doing this, and only sold at a loss once.

>>11234458
>I still don't have my "gamble" stock, but I'm considering Micron or a trust-fund (PER, which was mentioned earlier, comes to mind). Maybe ATT.

Eh, no need to add a gamble to portfolio unless you feel strongly about its potential for whatever reason. Your overall strategy looks good to me.

DPST thats the place to be

>>11233634
are you saying thers a chance ECR will make gains?

all in on RICK and DAVE

What the fuck happened to tesla after hours good god and is it going to continue into tomorrow?!

>>11233033
What is that thing

>>11234653

SEC is suing Elon.

>>11234652
this guy fucks

>>11234709
Ready the puts?
Holy shit.
How far will it bleed tho?
Who would buy into a company with a SEC investigation against them?!

>>11234716

Oh who knows with Tesla being such meme stock. Probably a decent amount of red tomorrow though, meme buyers can only hold up a price so much before bear whales rain on their parade. Here's an article explaining the situation.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/elon-musk-sued-by-the-sec-for-securities-fraud-1538079650

THREADLY REMINDER THAT DIVIDENDS ARE YOUR FREN

>>11233046
BASED

>>11233583
own KO and PEP and you can;'t go wrong.

>>11234716
>mfw TSLA climbs anyway
>mfw short-sellers get jacked on what they thought was a sure bet.

>>11234848
This is what will happen
it shouldnt
but it will

>>11234716
>Who would buy into a company with a SEC investigation against them?!

I think it's a matter of context. Elon is literally under SEC investigation for tweeting an investment related weed joke. Misleading shareholders is usually more sinister.

It feels like just another part of the current Elon meme cycle. I expect the stock to go all over the place in the next few months. We could even enter the full meme universe where the SEC bans Elon from running a public company and he responds by taking Tesla private.

>>11234860
TSLA will outlast F, cap it.

you bought sears today right?

>>11234971
Can Musk be found not guilty of fraud due to having a few wires loose? Everybody knows how eccentric the Musk Man is, like just calling some British guy a pedo and shit like that.

>>11234971
>>11234995
Reckless is the same thing as willfulness as far as the SEC is concerned. This is the most open and shut securities fraud case in history. This will ensure that lawsuits from shareholder losses will also be open and shut cases. The writing is on the wall. TSLA longs are the stupidest money in the market so the stock price will fluctuate based on how many of them realize it.

>>11235030
reckless is different than willfulness

t. attorney

My guess is that Musk gets a slap on the wrist (hard slap, like with a ruler) but still slap nonetheless. the company is so far ahead of other car companies with regard to electric and AI its retarded.

plus if it gets cheap enough AAPL will buy it

>>11235074
Look up what constitutes scienter for 10-5b violations. They are functionally the same when it comes to securities fraud. Nothing in your post is factual. From how retarded your response is, I am guessing you are not an attorney.

How much should I have saved up before I start investing?

And where should I put the first 5k I plan on investing? I'm in Canada btw

>>11235208
>How much should I have saved up before I start investing?
6 months of expenses minimum.

I'd also suggest having enough on the side for a car or car repairs just incase

>>11234803
I bought MPLX as my first dividend stock, how much did I fuck up?

Today CAG dropped on earnings , it missed everything, but it doesnt matter, They will have Pinnacle foods, thats why it will pump to 37 shortly

Pinnacle foods has Ms Butterworth, but more importantly Vlasic pickles, and because of the pickle duopoly they would be the main sellers of Pickles along Kraft Heinz
Also they own the other syrup top sellers like log cabin and aunt jemeini
Another bonus is the Hawaiin chips brand

>>11235257

i don't own any MLPs but that is a good one in the brief research i've done. And they're up almost 2 percent after hours. good 7% dividend. over the actual yield, i look at what companies increase their dividend yoy. For example. if you bough KO back in 1998, the stock is barely up, but you'd have a 45% increase in dividend amount. basically pays for itself. Its not amazon, but it is free raises in income each and every year. I look to find those and get in now for 20 years away

>>11235316
My we used to go visit my Mom’s family in Louisiana every summer. My Aunt Ethel was an incredible cook. Breakfast was insane. Every morning it was ground sausage patties, sausage links, scrambled eggs, eggs over easy, eggs sunny side up, pigs in a blanket, biscuits upon biscuits, orange juice, milk, coffee and anything else you could ask for. The one thing I’ll never forget though was the syrup.
It came in a quart sized paint can. You had to pry the top open with a screwdriver. It was THICC too. She’d put a spoon in it and turn it upside down and it would stay there.
Louisiana cane syrup is where it’s at. Log cabin and aunt negro ain’t shit.
Good luck on your investment though.

>>11235370
the numbers and data say otherwise

What are some good stock choices that will beat the market the next few years?

I have AMD and atvi.

>>11235385
Not dogging the company senpai, I know nothing about it, just digging the syrup. Lol.

>>11235415
*dogging

>tfw your dad is using his retirement money to buy small cap oil and mining companies

Waht is wrong with boomers, I keep telling him to buy dividend aristocrats but he doesn't listen

>>11235316
>>11235370
I think I'm gonna make some pancakes for brekky this weekend now.

>>11235425
Fuck I forgot she’d make pancakes too.
>>11235385
Anyway I don’t questions people’s picks since y’all are all better at this than me. Didn’t mean for it to sound like that. I’m kinda drunk and tired.

>>11235439
just answer this
Do you use Heinz products
What brand of chips do you have. Are they lays/fritos, other?
Do you use Blue bonnet?
Do you own cereal? Do you often buy hotpockets?

>>11235480
Oh I get it. They own a majority of our food products. Like I said you know more about them than I do fren so I’m sure you’re right.

>>11233865
>>11233881
>Companies like KO and PFE have to offer dividends because they aren't that great and can't figure out what to do with extra cash

Just shut the fuck up

>>11235499
texas anon...
Im literally surveying you... like I want to know the brands
Its not a sarcastic remark

>>11235504
obviously you didnt read.>>11233881
>sure there is more to dividends but those two points aren't too retarded
atleast try you fucking tard

>>11235480
Heinz for ketchup, French's for mustard. Lay's all day. Honey Nut Cheerios. 2500mg sodium in a hotpocket? No thank you.

Come on man ask some tough questions.

>>11235517
Oh sorry. I’m a little buzzed. I like lays products like potato chips plane and bbq. Frito is good too. Definitely use Heinz ketchup. Cereal like Frosted Flakes, coacoa crispies, etc. no hot pockets though. I eat pop tarts on occasion though. They put those in the MREs now.

>>11235421
Sounds like you're the boomer and he's the zoomer.

>>11235536
Nope I'm going to throw out all $5k of my dividend positions because a tripfag told me to. Goddamn you guys are a waste of fucking space. You and Baggy are the dumbest fucking investors I've ever talked to. How are you not poor or fucking dead??

>>11235549
>>11235542
Ok exellent, but
No hotpockets?
Surely you must have a nestle product someonewhere. You use water bottles?

>>11235542
>>11235549
Heinz... I love ketchup and I'll use Heinz if it's the only option, but I'm all about Hunt's.

>>11235563
Tap water is free

>>11235563
I prefer that shit Coke makes. Nestle water is popular though. I see it everywhere.
As for me I’m a chocoholic so I have nestle products near me practically 24/7

>>11235556
I never fucking said to throw away your dividend investments you dense fuck.

read it again.

i finished the last 3 years off with each 20%+ gains for each year, last year was 50%+ so why the fuck would i be poor?? are you really that mad about your choice of dividend stocks that you can't even read my post properly? are you blinded by your retardation? holy shit kys newfag

Alright /smg/. I'm an loltrustfundbaby. Right now my annual income is low enough that I can bs my way into the 0% capital gains bracket until I get around 35k of income. Here's where I am:

350k total
25% in IWF
70% in random singles varying from 1%-7%

I'm thinking of balancing all my singles down to 2% or less each (roughly 50% total value) and putting the rest into index funds. What do you think I should put the 25% into? I was thinking DIA, SPY, and NOBL.

I will be long term HODLing for 30 years.

>>11235596
>newfag
>20%

I'm LMAO'ing at your life

>>11235599
and fuck if it matters starting next year I begin working at 80k so my capital gains tax is going to rape me so time is an issue.

I'm basically going to just collect dividends (lots of high dividend shit in there) and rebuy hard af during crashes.

>>11235603
glad to know you think about me

>>11235580
disgusting

>>11235577
Hunts... owned by Conagra foods
Excellent

>>11233142
>AMD

Wall street now hates AMD don't buy.

>>11235553
kek, we unironically have a few 100oz silver ingots and like 30oz of gold, my dad was convinced the economy was going to collapse back in 2008 so we both pitched in

>>11235632
heh. You're both a couple of boomers

Is interactive brokers any good for a non US resident that wants to trade on US markets?

>>11233501
snap is unprofitable and they are losing users. why would you buy that shit? just set your money on fire if you are going to buy that.

>>11235611
>>11235599
can I check my own dubs?

>>11235504
KO's dividend is low, so ya its an incentive/way to dump money, but it isn't much. No one said it was a bad company retard. I own dividends, its large portion of my holdings you hapless retard.

Planes is a dick

>>11235504
To extrapolate before you start blindly flailing about again. Dumping money into dividends, rather than "charity" or some shit is fine. At a certain point you will receive diminishing returns from investing internally. Just as someone can get tax benefits from investing in charity (and save money), Putting money into dividends increases the value of your stock (with lack of another way to efficiently do so at your current size). Does that explain it enough you drooling retard? You took a simplified explanation and tried to twist it into a personal attack against your favorite investment vehicle.

In an ideal world people can keep expanding a business without relying on dividends, increasing stock value through inherent value of the company. But in the presence of diminishing returns, limited markets, and cost of operations, at a certain point dividends become the best option available. Some companies just suck and poor money into dividends to gather investors/attention, but no one accused your "darling" stocks as being those. Now go think about what you have done you annoying twat.

>>11235744
>thinking being liked on a Taiwanese basket weaving forum is important

>>11233837
float f = 2;

while(f != 31.0)
{
printf("%f\n", f);
f += 0.1;
}

this thread becomes more and more autistic everyday

>>11235842
float f = 2;

while(f != 31.0)
{
printf("%f\n", f);
f += 0.1;
}

>>11235827
Is this an AMD reference?

>>11235908
very good very good

>>11235611
Dividends will count towards your taxes unless you find a mutual fund or something that automatically re-invests them. Everything you suggested sounds fine for a low-low mid risk strategy.

>>11235933
What's a low-low?

My other account is in robinhood and is 100% TQQQ and with a stoploss I just increase every week. Am I retarded?

>>11235917
Sadly, it isn't true to reality. It stalled at 20 after the Q2 conference call. I knew intel was toast, AMD was ahead by a mile but thought it had already been priced in. Sold a few weeks later. Then, on no news, the market suddenly decided they loved it and it shot up like a rocket. Oh well, I need to learn how to look for signs that funds are accumulating to not miss out next time.

>>11233694
>never once said i was Big5guy
This is possibly funnier than Musky man getting sued or that time LCI tanked 60% overnight

>>11235974
At that point we are talking about annuities and shit brother.

>>11235994
Whenever I get over 1 million I guess. I haven't really thought about it. I think I would rather hedge the risk of the stock market with bonds the older I get. Never even considered them.

>>11235974
you will be bogged by macro events. probably worth hedging some.

>MF ITT

>>11236017
Won't the stoploss mitigate that? When talking about hedging a 3x leveraged fund isn't just something like SPY a hedge in comparison? I mean I just check my phone daily and if my stoploss hits I watch the market. If it keeps taking a shit I wait for bottom and rebuy.

>>11236032
If you sell you're a pussy. You hold and buy the dip

>>11236032
I'm pretty green but I think if things tank TQQQ is going down fast.

>>11236053
Weren't you leaving or something?

I'm a pretty new guy to this and I have a question if someone if willing to answer.

Currently I'm using markets.com for trading. But then when I'm looking around on finviz and find something I want to put money in. In turns out I can't find it in the list.

Does that mean some brokers don't have all shares in their list?

If so? What is a good alternative that doesn't cost to much just to have positions open like plus500 garbage.

Thanks

>>11236053
>hold and buy
wat

>>11236057
welp I'm a retard so I might keep doing it.

>>11236057
>mfw I mobile post in the first time in a week and my trip is auto on
Fuck

>>11236074
Please keep your trip on Gomfy
It is somehow nice to keep seeing familiar posters (even ones like Planes/Big5Goy)

>>11236066
Finviz doesn't show all markets

Wheres my reminder about my dividends
How am i supposed to purchase without my buddy giving me assurance

>>11236168
GAIN, GLAD, MAIN remain some of my favorites. But then again, I trade them like I do stocks.

>>11236114
I'm sorry I wasn't clear enough. Finviz shows the stock but the markets.com site does not.

>>11235874
I would've done while f <= 31.0 since floating points aren't so hot at comparing for equality... In other words, it could trip up on the 31.0 == 31.0 comparison and just keep running

>>11236032
If your stop gets blown passed, your broker might not execute it. They're not foolproof.

>>11236200
This is flagged and handled by the compiler as a bull_market error.

>>11236202
This.
>>11236032
If a stock halves at open, the stop loss won't execute for the price you set it at, it'll execute at the opening price.

>>11236180
i got glad and gain ill check out Main though

>>11236211
Fascinating.

Do I need an ID to trade on Robinhood?

>>11236249
Yes.
Robinhood features tight integration with 4chan's elite shitposting system.
Only the tripfags have ever actually traded equity.

do i have to become a tripfag in order to achieve amazing gains?

>>11236202
>>11236218
well fuck. guess I'll stick to good old VOO, DIA, NOBL, SPY, SPYD, VYM, IWD, VTI, and QQQ instead of dreamy memes.

>>11236359
Definitely. I'll help.
I hereby dub thee: Captain Negro Face

So, now you type "Captain Negro Face##password" in the name field on your posts.
Boom. Done. Sick gains guaranteed.

>>11233647
>>>11233659
Don't buy stocks/ETFs that are in a downtrend, like emerging market ETFs. I dont know why this is so hard for people to realize. Don't buy any stock unless the 20 day moving average is above the 50 day one is above the 200 day one, with the stock above all of them.

>>11236585
Or... You could throw TA out the window and use FA

>>11236585
>doesn't know what a contrarian investor is
>doesn't know about buying weakness selling into strength
>doesn't know about shorting hype

your newfag is showing.

>>11235760
buybacks are much better than dividends.

>>11236200
Dude that doesn't make any sense.
How are you going to accidentally skip 31 when incrementing from 2 by .1?

>>11236599
How do you know when you found the bottom? And whats the point trying to be Warren Buffett when there are stocks like SQ that are in a huge uptrend and have been in one consistently for 12 months now. I am too lazy so I just have a portfolio consisting of high growth in clear uptrends, and check them regularly to make sure that the trend is continuing. Don't sell until the trend breaks. Its easy money at a consistent high return.

>>11233951
Permium isn't a meme, it's oil sands realestate

T. Someone who used to swing trade that and WTI
PER doesn't follow oil price very well though

>>11236618
Because CPUs do math in base 2, which doesn't like the number 5.
So, when f is supposed to hit 31.0, it's very easy for it to actually end up as 30.999999999 instead.
Try comparing .2 to 1.0/5.0 in JavaScript or even just printing out the result of 1.0/5.0 in Chrome or Firefox's console in the web console's debugger

>>11236678
thx for the lesson 1.9999999scoops

>>11236618
You're just generally not supposed to compare floating point numbers for equality. It's bad practice.

Ints are perfectly acceptable. Just not floating points. Comparing objects for equality can also cause issues, unless you've done something like implementing/overriding the compareTo method in Java. The reason why is that objects are compared by reference by default, rather than by value -- it simply doesn't know how to compare by value unless you implement it for objects.

>>11236695
Kek.
Brushing up on this shit for my interviews. I think I already said this, but Amazon gave me an on-site interview, and Google is giving me a coding phone interview

>>11236670
>How do you know when you found the bottom?
you don't. It's called scaling in.
Your newfag is showing

> there are stocks like SQ that are in a huge uptrend and have been in one consistently for 12 months now.
well yeah sure, things are better in hindsight. How do you know where the top is? how do you know the rug isn't going to get pulled out from under you?
Your newfag is showing

>I am too lazy
well that explains alot

you do know you can have a portfolio of many different trades going at once? nanocaps, largecaps, Call options, put options, OTCplays.... day trades, week trades, month trades, year trades, retirement trades.
There are many ways to make money
your newfag is showing

>>11236702
whoops, u right
i just assembled it by hand and got
0x41f8002b = 31.000082

>>11236614
That feels like a completely random statement

futures red

>>11236670
>And whats the point trying to be Warren Buffett when there are stocks like SQ that are in a huge uptrend and have been in one consistently for 12 months now.
I think value plays are supposed to beat growth plays on average, but even with tech stocks like that, you can't completely discredit fundamentals.
Check out SNAP's last 4 quarters of EPS compared to NFLX's or NVDA's.
You'll notice that the latter 2 are positive and exhibit strong earnings growth... Meanwhile the CEO of SNAP still has no idea how money fucking works kek

>>11236735
It's kind of true.
Aren't buybacks supposed to be advantageous for tax purposes? Dividends are taxed twice and all that?

>>11236736
RED DAY!!! RED DAY!!! SELL! SELL! SELL!

>>11236733
Yeah, CPUs do NOT like our counting system

>>11236709
I hope you get a position in AMZN so that I can laugh at you for being forced to pee into a bottle and work in a robotized cage

(nah joking I'll be happy for you, getting free AMZN stocks and insider info and all)

>>11236766
I think they'd be paying me 185k/year for the position that I'm applying for.
For that much cash, I'd happily whore myself out and piss in a bottle for a couple years

>>11236764
>Yeah, CPUs do NOT like our counting system
That's because its retarded, we should be using base 60, or base 12 at least

Literally the only reason to use base 10 is because it's easier to teach toddler because they tend to have 10 fingers

>>11236764
I mean ya, Buybacks are stellar, just seemed random in context and all.

>>11236787
Sometimes, I like to try to suck my own dick.
If I get the job at Amazon or Google, I may surgically remove a rib or two in a couple years.

>>11233033
I keep passing over this nice looking mommy on the catalog.
nice taste smg OP.

Also, what do you guys think about the Qs right now? I've got a small long open for the fun of it, I feel like kavanaugh vote news could cause a rally.

>>11236773
Nice
With the """knowledge""" about investing (eg. going long LCI) you gained here, you gonna make it in no time.

>>11236799
I'm seeing salaries for like 85k for what you described. Did you go get a PHD in like the last week or some shit? 185k entry level without top level education sounds like some mythical shit.

>>11236764
Dividends are paid out of after taxes profits
Once they land on your personal account, they are counted as personal income and taxed again (that is if you hold the stocks in normal brokerage accounts)

>>11236710
>>11236811
Run before he finds you.

>>11236710
A company like MTCH, SQ, NVDA or whatever with huge revenue growth is not just going to collapse unless there is a material change to the business. So read the quarterly reports and if something goes wrong ditch it as fast as possible when the market opens the next day. If you own 10 stocks like this and fuck up the timing on one of them the occasional 15% daily drop is not a big deal. And even so there is usually a bounce back giving you a second chance to exit without too much pain.

I know its not stocks strictly speaking, but BTC might be entering the 2.5 month bull run again like last year, so once this supreme court drama ends, expect a 3 month pump on good index stocks

>>11236812
If JSP partnership continued for LCI it would've mooned. that was a major part of that trade due to the high short interest. If it mooned due to partnership being continued pretty sure a lot of people itt would be a little upset that they missed out. To think about an old trade is pleb shit. the only trades that matter are your next ones. Shit happens. If you have never had a bad trade happen to you than you either must be extremely new or have extremely good luck. Every person in the stock market has had a bad trade in their career. If you haven't than you are lieing

>>11236856
ok kid. GL. I don't give a shit anymore about how new you are.

>>11236842
Lol arrogant spergs are the best people to have around, lemme at em

>>11236812
>LCI
:'^)
>>11236830
>I'm seeing salaries for like 85k for what you described. Did you go get a PHD in like the last week or some shit? 185k entry level without top level education sounds like some mythical shit.
I got paid 92.5k fresh out of college, and I'm also not in a big city.
My friends at Amazon got offers of about 140k fresh out of college, and I've heard of a Google offer for about 160k fresh out of college -- all of us just have a bachelor's
>sounds like some mythical shit
Welcome to software engineering.
Got a pulse? Got a job.
Got a degree? Got a damn good job.

>>11236745
Why not choose stocks that look good both in terms of fundamentals and in terms of the technicals? High growth generally works better than value. Lynch was the best performing fund manager from 1977-1990 based on a simple growth strategy. (Turnarounds are also good, don't get me wrong, I just like to wait until there is some good technical evidence that the stock has bottomed out. )

>>11236870
you say that now, but you have only yourself to blame when he gets you....

>>11236877
fuck that sounds nice, as an ME with only 9 more months until I get a degree, with no co-op or good GPA, im begining to think im fucked..

>>11236861
You were unlucky
That is why I don't trade on what I call "technicalities". In fact, I don't trade at all. I only go long on companies I feel good about.
I don't know if murican borkers give you access to foreign stocks, I am feeling good about Fast Retail (a nip fashion retailer famous for its Uniqlo brand) and I will see if I start a position after muh DD. Is Uniqlo well known in the US ?

>Also, buy AAXN on pullbacks below $65

>>11236888
seriously what in the fuck is the point of those pictures you post, none of those fucking people look like myself or comfy.

>>11236882
>Why not choose stocks that look good both in terms of fundamentals and in terms of the technicals?
Yes. I usually don't go for good financials if the price is doing a nosedive unless I get really, really into the fundamentals. But, I've recently found that I'm never as deep into the fundamentals as I think I am.

>>11236877
Well then thats pretty cool. You could straight retire in 15 years doing that shit if you invest along the way and live the simple life.

>>11236902
I do it for the (you)'s

thank you

>>11236904
>I've recently found that I'm never as deep into the fundamentals as I think I am.
its hard to get real deep into fundamentals. I think the people that get deep into fundamentals do better than the lazy technical approach in the long term imo tho. I rather make 20 trades a year with a 95% chance of successfull trades over making 1000 trades a year with 70% chance of having successful trades

>>11236927
well thats lame

>>11236888
>fuck that sounds nice, as an ME with only 9 more months until I get a degree, with no co-op or good GPA, im begining to think im fucked..
I graduated with my honors degree in 7 semesters with 3 internships/co-ops, several semesters as a TA, some graduate coursework, a business minor, and I even tried to found a start-up.
I think that I once almost died of a heart attack.
You might be fucked, but I'm definitely fucked in the head.

>>11236924
I'm way too tremendous to ever stop working, but I might found my own company sometime down the road.
The investing part is important. I was hoping to get that automated with ML, but that project is on hold until I finish these interviews.

>>11236950
I think you will go far 2 scoops.. you're that guy. Just don't ever get suckered into staying at one place because the pay is good. Imo there will always be extremely good opportunity for doods like you and i think 185k is just scratching the surface.

>>11233167

>>11236935
That's probably true but its pretty hard to go deep enough into the fundamentals just based on the quarterly investor letters or SEC filings. The Buffets of the world invest as a full time job and are always visiting factories, having lunches with CEOs etc. You are never going to compete with their analysis of the fundamentals when you have an hour a day for stocks and no access or insider info.

>>11236942
Eh I just took a nap from 8pm to 3am, so not many better things to do

Besides look for a job, but it's too early to do that

>>11236950
I'd rather be fucked in the head than work for 3 years making $10k a year

I finally quit my butcher job this August, but now I'm basically neet teir with dimming prospects for the future

I'd kill for a job where they don't take one look at my GPA/work experienc and toss my resume in the bin

At least I'm good at math ;_;

>>11236935
>I rather make 20 trades a year with a 95% chance of successfull trades over making 1000 trades a year with 70% chance of having successful trades
I think Warren Buffett would agree with you, but I don't think that I would.
There's no sure things, and increasing the number of trades is kind of a form of risk mitigation -- you should never go all in on a non-ETF no matter how confident that you are, right?
Although at 95% confidence, I think I'd agree with you, there are literally Harvard MBAs that you're going head-to-head with on finding the best deals, so actually finding such a great deal is unlikely.

>>11233185
you should stop posting

>>11236902

>>11236975
Oh shi
Is Planes actually being nice to someone ?

(nah joking I know you despise retards who are lazy and don't want to do better by themselves)

>>11236975
>Just don't ever get suckered into staying at one place because the pay is good.
Ha! This place ALMOST had me, but now I feel unappreciated, so it's time to rip off the band-aid.
Also, thanks :)

>>11237005
Kek! I missed that. I only saw the bogs

>>11236997
>I'd rather be fucked in the head than work for 3 years making $10k a year
I'd be surprised if you don't find something.
>At least I'm good at math ;_;
That's really all you need. Some people are finding success while completely asleep at the fucking wheel.

>>11237001
I think the success rate decreases dramtically the more trades you are doing

I find Buffett-sama is someone with almost an artistic sense of feeling. I think he can understand very well businesses and figure out what makes them great, simply good or utterly bad

As for MBAs and diplomas, not saying they are useless, but I would say there are plenty of idiots with diplomas in this world who seem to be smart but turn out to be total fools and absolutely uninteresting.

>>11236935
>lazy technical approach

Pardon? Different strategies, different focus. Get the fuck off your high horse trying to push the virtuous long hodler fallacy.

>>11237192

>>11237192
lol who do you think youre replying to?

>>11236568
nah ill use the name that reflects my future self :^)

Oh lel
EURUSD is getting bogged so hard rn

I was sweating like a pajeet swine the days before the FED shitpost but I knew EUR is fundamentally over

>>11237578
Jesse chris cant believe it broke 1.6
Me should have kept short longer :(

>>11237675
I am still long USD :^) because ALL HAIL EMPEROR TRUMP

>>11237675
Spy analysis please!

rip GLD

>>11237724
Shitholes countries thought they could be the big boys and ditch USD by stockpiling gold because of "muh value storage" or "muh gold backed currency" meme

Truth is, gold is mainly useful for geographical wealth transfer as its preciosity is recognized anywhere in the world. What good is a gold backed currency if you can't claim the physical gold ?

>>11236894
Uniqlo opened a store in a DC suburb a few years ago that's very popular. Not a very well known brand in the US, but I could see successful expansion.

thinking about buying spy calls soon

>>11237950
yea theyre successful in nyc

>>11237950
>>11237967
Thx m8
I think Uniqlo (and the nips in general) is very good at telling a nice story.
I ma making an AUIC Report when my DD is done.

Thoughts on ECR?

>>11237698
yesterdays chart seems for be in play today, will keep watch and make adjusted new one if things change

Robinhood decided IQ needed to take more margin and they want like 1/5 of my stack. I have 3 trading days including today before they steal my baby from me.

>>11237333
Jesus

>the city of ALT
Let this be a lesson to never chase after moon missions.

>>11238486
What the hell happened

>>11238492
New public offering @5. Shares down 50% now premarket.

any Unilever holders here? They seem to know their shit, really good at aquisitions, haven't started my DD yet, so maybe some flies could start to show up. Currently trading in Amsterdam for ~48eur/share

>>11238224
slightly updated plan

>>11238486
>>11238492
Some companies seem to never ever make any profits
I guess it is the capitalist version of unemployment office, in which instead of waiting for governmet gib, you work for utterly hopeless causes

>>11238546
I don't think it's profit related. They are working on developing new drugs which is always going to incurr a loss.

This is just one of those really scummy moves by the management to fuck over shareholders. Worse yet I don't even think they have cash flow issues to warrant this new dilution. Honestly I think the SEC should make it so that any new share offerings needs to be announced 6 months in advance or something.

>>11234985
Why would I?

DING LETS GO BABY

LEVERAGE FOR STACKS LETS GO BASED BULL MARKET

>>11236997
>I'd kill for a job where they don't take one look at my GPA/work experienc
don’t lie about work experience but honestly I usually pad my GPA a little bit. No one is really going to actually verify your fucking GPA.

>>11238616
Lots of employers do ask for transcripts tho

So
Long or short Kavanaugh ?

SNAP. Just. Why am I still bagholding this shit.

>>11236997
>>11238616
>>11238632
after you have your first Real Job (TM), literally nobody will care about your GPA ever again, they'll only care about your previous work experience. they'll maaaaybe care that you have a degree at all, but the grades? forget about it

>>11238644
we need a separate thread for PredictIt or whatever because this shit is ridic

Bront Kavanigg isn't relevant to anybody's stock price in the short to medium term

see you at 190 boys

>>11238647
they announced a partnership with AMZN so maybe that goes somewhere

>>11238661
already dumped my shares this morning. i bought at 330. fml. tsla is going to 0 without musk. there's no meme magic at earnings calls without him.

>>11238661
what le fuck

>>11238661
It sure is slow about getting there. It's pretty incredible that this stock is only down 12% on news of charges being brought by the SEC + no settlement. FB went down 20% on good Q2 + bad guidance.

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