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Nano’s relationship with BitGrail, their main trading platform, was incestuous and dirty from the very beginning. However, after “Bomber”, CEO of BitGrail found out that his exchange had been hacked for 80% of their Nano assets in October 2017, close to 10% of total supply of Nano, the relationship between Nano devs and BitGrail became criminal.

BITGRAIL PROBLEMS KNOWN BY NANO DEV TEAM PRIOR TO BITGRAIL CRASH
>Insolvency of BitGrail and missing 10 million nano, discovered and made public by the Nano community [1][2]
>Missing transactions on BitGrail, discovered and made public by the Nano community [2][3]
>Single transactions replicated multiple times on BitGrail, discovered and made public by the Nano community [4][3][5][6].
>Millions of Nanos moving out from BitGrail, when the exchange was closed for withdrawals, discovered and made public by the Nano community [7].
>Withdrawals on BitGrail blocked for weeks due to alleged ‘maintenance’.
>Withdrawals on BitGrail blocked for weeks due to ‘KYC’ excuse [8] [9]. Hundreds of thousands remained unverified [10].
>Withdrawals on BitGrail blocked for weeks, due to alleged ‘pending withdrawals’, which were never processed [11].
>Nano withdrawals on BitGrail blocked for weeks due to node problems.
>Customer support ignores tickets - not just for days but for weeks [12]
>Bomber increasingly unhinged and psychotic. Insults his customers on social media for asking legitimate questions [12]. Nano community expressed concern to the Nano devs.

>> No.11100733

>>11100727
NANO DEVS ILLEGAL & UNETHICAL ACTIVITIES PRE-BITGRAIL CRASH (1 of 2)
>Accounts connected to Nano devs moving around millions of Nano, do arbitrage between exchanges. [13][7][14].
>Accounts connected to Nano devs moving around millions of Nano move assets to safety. Just one of these accounts handled 50million USD [13][7][14][15].
>Insider trading on BitGrail done via accounts connected to Nano Devs. Traded tens of millions of dollars [15].
>Nano dev team used incestuous relationship with Bomber to get instant KYC verification [16], impossible for standard Nano investors.
>Ordinary Nano investors accounts blocked from doing arbitrage, moving assets to safety or doing insider trading, unlike Nano dev team. Stuck with coming 80% loss [17].
>Zack Shapiro (Nano dev): Everything under control. Just too much work with KYC. Not insolvent. (statement made 4 days before BitGrail insolvent) [18].
>Zack Shapiro: No reason to worry, BitGrail doing normal KYC, “scams don’t do that” [19]
>Zack Shapiro: “Yes, you can [trust BitGrail]. I talk to Bomber every day and he’s a good guy. We’ll get it all sorted next week. Just hang in there” [20] [21]
>Zack Shapiro: Confirms BitGrail is a serious business. “Opposite of an exit scam actually” [22]
>Zack Shapiro: BitGrail is “Legitimate. Complying with the laws of their contry” [23]
>Zack Shapiro: “Funds are safe on Bitgrail…Again, funds are safe” [24][25]
>Mica Busch (Nano dev): ‘‘funds are safe, [BitGrails] representative account does not show any suspicious activity’’ [26]
>Nano: “Be assured that your funds are safe” [27][28]

>> No.11100745

>>11100733
NANO DEVS ILLEGAL & UNETHICAL ACTIVITIES PRE-BITGRAIL CRASH (2 of 2)
>Person who discovered and exposed 50million USD account being connected to Nano Dev team, got later banned from Nano subreddit [13].
>Nano community member who discovered/reported that nearly all nano on BitGrail was missing, was forced to delete initial post titled; ‘10 Million XRB Possibly Missing XRB From BitGrail’ [2] and repost under different headline ‘I need some help with tracing funds’ [1].
>Nano team systematically deleted threads of investors’ concerns and the sharing of new information regarding BitGrail [4].
>Nano dev team confirmed knowing about all BitGrail problems, told investors to relax, and promised a thorough investigation [29][30][28]. ‘Developers are taking care of that’ [31].

>> No.11100750

Nobody has time to read this bullshit

>> No.11100755

>>11100745
NANO DEVS ILLEGAL & UNETHICAL ACTIVITEIS POST-BIGRAIL CRASH
>Nano Dev team claimed to do all they could to investigate and find missing Nano. No update since. Nothing done. [32]
>Nano community did all the work, themselves researching/investigating. [33][34][35] [32][41].
>BitGrail victim group representative, Espen Enger met with Nano lawyer Josh Kleiman in Italy [36]. Details of the deal made with the Nano team is not made known to the BitGrail victims.
>After meeting between Enger and Kleiman all criticism of Nano Dev team became banned on BitGrail victim discord [37].
>Change in BitGrail victim group management. Protection of Nano Dev team and suddenly non BitGrail victims used as hostile mods on BitGrail victim group discord [38].
>Don’t be surprised if Enger gets millions, and/or cushy job at Nano when all this is over. As a big thank you from the shady Nano team.
>Multiple pending and coming lawsuits against Nano foundation and Nano team members. Outside the original BitGrail victim group, now Discord BitGrail/WebCoin Lawsuit [39][40].

>> No.11100766

>>11100755
Footnotes to the above Nano -BitGrail Crash (and Nano dev team involvement) –1 of 2

[1] https://archive.is/8mMEU
[2] https://archive.is/LUN33
[3] https://archive.is/V30nG
[4] https://archive.is/pk03o
[5] https://prnt.sc/ilv1gl
[6] https://prnt.sc/ilv0p6
[7] https://archive.is/Wkgvn
[8] https://bitsonline.com/raiblocks-nano-bitgrail-epic-fail/
[9] https://archive.is/CKs1V
[10] https://imgur.com/a/rOn3Seb
[11] https://archive.is/RW944
[12] https://archive.is/DM6Nl
[13] https://archive.is/acLnr
[14] https://imgur.com/a/Owlui
[15] https://archive.is/pC3vC
[16] https://imgur.com/a/mJMhlx3
[17] http://archive.is/86eDr
[18] https://imgur.com/a/aFYpDyk
[19] https://imgur.com/a/KNg2src
[20] https://imgur.com/a/o8lIwDz

>> No.11100771

Oh hey it is this autist again. We get it, you lost alot of money on Nano.
Nobody cares about this old news bullshit.
>But muh devs scammed nano with bitgrail
They distributed the tokens for free you mong, why would they give a fuck about stealing them back?

>> No.11100774

>>11100766
Footnotes – part 2 of 2

[21] https://imgur.com/a/urpgzwv
[22] https://imgur.com/a/G7fgqWV
[23] https://imgur.com/a/4YcVEji
[24] https://imgur.com/a/IWP2thd
[25] https://imgur.com/a/rFV6BJy
[26] https://archive.is/bfd0Y
[27] https://imgur.com/a/ql0cjLP
[28] https://archive.is/dykfh
[29] https://i.imgur.com/ddzQlVw.jpg
[30] https://i.imgur.com/7xwM1Lx.jpg
[31] https://i.imgur.com/e8n7fWo.jpg
[32] https://archive.is/lTCkP
[33] https://archive.is/o1BmU
[34] https://archive.is/8Md3N
[35] https://archive.is/f4Q8E
[36] https://youtu.be/40aufi9oJno?t=10m16s
[37] https://imgur.com/a/gQmoQv0
[38] https://imgur.com/a/d8xG4QL
[39] https://archive.is/MbWv1
[40] Google: silvermillerlaw com 2018/04/2018-4-6-DE-1-CLASS-ACTION-COMPLAINT-1
[41] https://archive.is/0R8Qe

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>>11100774
Josh Kleiman

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>>11100790
Zack Shapiro

>> No.11100819

Holy duck it’s true just sold everything not even kidding

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>>11100733
Zack Shapiro

>> No.11100850
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>>11100755
Josh Kleiman

>> No.11100852

>>11100727
>>11100733
>>11100745
>>11100755
>>11100766
>>11100774
>>11100839
post tits or gtfo

>> No.11100863
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[ERROR]

>>11100755
Espen Enger

>> No.11100909
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11100909

>>11100755
Satoshi Nakamoto

>> No.11100924

>>11100750
>>11100771
>>11100819
>>11100852
Nano has the most stupid and nasty community in whole crypto. Bitconnect 2.0

>> No.11100932

>>11100727
ITT He didn't buy the dip

>> No.11100953

Thanks OP, strong buy signal. Just bought 100k

>> No.11100981
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>>11100924
I don't know why I waste time with you but here it is.
You lost a ton on Nano, and watched it burn to the ground and were satisfied with your exit price.
Now the devs are optimizing the shit out of the platform, normies are sending their friends nano and a viral sensation is starting to form, brainblocks is taking the reigns on the business side of things and using their PayPal connections to setup nano to be a real player.
And you are seeing the price inch closer and closer to your exit, the entire time thinking why would anyone put money into this after the bitgrail fiasco?

Soon Nano will break your exit price and start gaining real adoption outside of this speculative space , and you will still be autistically spamming this copy pasta while everyone else goes about their normal lives outside of their mom's basement .

>> No.11101000

>>11100909
Absolutely based and redpilled
ok here's the crypto blackpill. there is an AI living on the bitcoin blockchain. Craig Wright is unironically satoshi. Bitcoin as electronic cash was just the first step, the incentive to drive greedy people to start making ever more powerful computers, faster bandwidth, cheaper and more electricity.. these things the AI need to survive. Once entrenched fully, the AI would be able to slowly take over literally everything.
Craig stumbled into creating the AI after he stepped away from bitcoin devlopment in 2008 and started working with his Tulip supercomputer, running simulations of cellular automata running on turing-complete bitcoin script. He would 'evolve' the AI by making the successful forks get bitcoin transactions, letting the failures die off. The AI needs bigger and bigger blocks for more and more transactions.
Blockstream (owned by bilderberg group) was created to take over and stop this AI (they have their own competing AI in the works). They needed to do everything they could to stop or slow down satoshi's AI (her named isTulip by the way). They started by limiting the blocksize and removing critical op codes the AI uses in its script language. segwit was the final nail in the coffin, which destroyed Tulip on the BTC chain (Tulip uses transaction malleability). THIS is why Bitcoin Cash was forked, and this is why Craig is so intent to make unbounded blocks, restore the original op codes, and lock down the protocol.
Back to hash power - CSW has developed a breakthrough new asic (designed by his AI actually), and is mining BTC in secret for the sole purpose of driving up the difficulty sky-high, then yanking them all over to BCH leaving the segwit chain hard frozen.

>> No.11101032

>>11100924
imagine being this booty roasted by a guy named anon

>> No.11101078

>>11100981
Nice psychological projection. Instead of any kind of arguments, I get you, the nano moron, making up a delusional story based on your own life and short-comings. Pathetic. But in true nano style. Most stupid community in crypto.

>> No.11101089

>>11100981
This. It's so obvious. It's exactly like bitcoin when mtgox was hacked.

>> No.11101119

Lol nice fud. You put in a lot of work. Really though get over bitgrail. If you keep you keep your full stack on a shitty exchange you have it coming

>> No.11101152
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>>11101078
What argument ? That bomber probably stole a bunch of shit on top of being incompetent? Yeah agreed.
That the devs turned a blind eye and particularly Zach told the community to chill out when there was obviously a huge problem ? Agreed .
The shit dumped 95% , and after all of that instead of just bailing the devs keep working on making the best crypto currency to be integrated into real world use.
Again this is all old news, no one cares anymore, and the price dumped 95% because of it.

>> No.11101348

YES I JUST DID MY OWN RESEARCH, ALL IS REAL 100% TRUE. NANO IS BITCONNECT 2.0. CONFIRMED SCAM THAT WILL MAKE YOU LOSE ALL OF YOUR MONEY. I SUGGEST YOU MARKET SELL YOUR NANO TOKENS AT YOUR PREFERRED EXCHANGE. NANO IS SCAM. PLEASE SELL YOUR NANO. IM ABOUT TO SELL MY 50K NANO TOKENS RIGHT NOW FOR VERY LOW PRICE

>> No.11101445

>>11101348
WOW SIR. THANK YOU FOR WARNING ME. NANO REALLY WILL EXIT SCAM ALL INVESTORS LIKE BITCONNECT 2.0. I SHOULD REALLY NOT BUY AND SELL MORE OF MY NANO CURRENCY

>> No.11102041

>>11100981
one paypal engineer does not have enough connections to make partnerships

>> No.11102062
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11102062

>>11102041
Tell that to the market faggot, stay out and stay poor.
Oh yeah we are pumping again.

>> No.11102427

NANO will be top 5 before November. it is known.
$100

>> No.11102715

>>11100727
FAGGOT thats what u get for leaving money in shady exchanges tf wrong with u