/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>11092074
Have an escort manage your finances.

there's no way you do this sober. control your substance abuse addiction first, then you will be able to control your finances

>>11092074
same problem. sitting here head in hands. can't pay credit cards now. spending everything on escorts. fml

>>11092074
>there are people on /biz/ who don’t budget

>he doesn’t turn his regular into his girlfriend

Not going to make it

>>11092139
but i already have a wife. every time i say that was the last time. then i'm back to it the next day

>>11092139
>trying to save a ho....cmon breh

>>11092103
how...do I need to see a therapist? I get paid monthly and it's really disheartening seeing my savings remain stagnant

>>11092074
Self control

>>11092139
> not realising his regular IS his girlfriend

How the fuck do you even find escorts? Wasn't Backpage shutdown?

Live in NYC. DESU, I fantasize about hiring some pale, 20yr old Asian chick with a nice butt and take her to a hotel but seems like a great way to get arrested.

masterbate RIGHT before you are going to call the ho. cured

Make sure you always use coupons and take advantage of tax free day.

>>11092764
If you're gonna have.an.escort addiction you might as well turn it into a positive thing and educate others right? Share your methods op

>>11092074

are escorts basically paid gf's?

>>11092839

are unpaid gf's basically ex gf's?

>>11092807
well I'm not in the US and it's legal here...sorry brehs. You still definitely get a thrill beforehand though

>>11092764
Leave your country.

>>11092182
>>11092139
That being said...there's one that I saw who's really good at her job. Obviously it's all an act on her part but she made it seem like we had great chemistry (maybe we genuinely did, idk. it's highly unlikely though). I flaked on her today since I want to get my finances and self control in check. The part of me that lives in fantasyland wishes that we met in a different setting

>>11092074
>be me
>December 2017
>in Costa Rica "Hotel del Rey"
>take out 10,000 in crypto
>30 min later my crypto portfolio is up 10,000
>tell my hooker that I feel like I'm fucking her fo free because of my gains
>she pokes me in the eye with her sharp fingernail while we are laying in the bed
>be me
>today
>owe $84,000 to the IRS in capital gains
>have about 94,000 BAT and 1 BTC left
>seriously thinking about laying on some railroad tracks
>oh and my eye is still fucked up and getting worse
>had to get a higher prescription since she poked it

YAY I LOVE CRYPTO <3

>>11093070
>tell my hooker that I feel like I'm fucking her fo free because of my gains
Cringe

>>11093107

>>11092074

This is why I haven't gone to an escort, I'd probably like it too much. Not worth it.

>>11092095
fucking kek

>>11092109

>>11092095
This.
Get an asian escort - asians are good with numbers.

just stop swiping your cards and handing away cash.

You fags actually think BTC will go below 6k

>>11093152
Not really escorts just wymyn in general
But I realized that simply having an average gf is better because at least you're getting the real thing and desexualing your mind thus allowing you to focus more on pursuits while being on nofap or watching porn makes you a sexualized pervert

honestly the best thing to do is become a pimp, that way you can fuck them for free and make money.

Just import a bride by mail using a false name, in a state unrelated to you, then bring her back to your house and lock her up in the basement as a sex slave. Chain her to a bed, brick up any windows, and put noise dampening foam on the walls and ceilings. Make sure to turn her, or she will get bedsores. Diapers require more care, but less chance of infection than a cath and shitbag. At first she will be resistant, so teach her with a cattle prod. After awhile, she will start to get Stockholm's Syndrome and be more obedient though.

>>11093832
you are fucked up man

your going to have to start fucking yourself like the rest of us op

>>11092074
Anyone who sees in escort probably has a very poor conscience. Very, very few escorts actually choose their line of work. They only do it to keep themselves out of poverty, to finance a drug habit, or both. By sleeping with them, you are exploiting them and contributing to their suffering. This is not a joke. I've seriously considered seeing escorts, but I've always arrived at this conclusion.

>>11093894
>Very, very few escorts actually choose their line of work
But not all. What if you're seeing one who willingly made that decision?

>>11092074
You are addicted to escorts how?
Keep in mind that doing escorts isn't wrong as an activity (discarding any moral value for one).

If you're addicted it is likely that:

-You lack emotional affection/attention
-You are sexually addicted.

Which one is it?

>>11093832
Based Austrianon

>>11092776
Unironically good advice. If you force yourself to masturbate then you won't have the same libido.
Of course this means he'll end up on /nofap/ asking about curing his masturbation addiction, but at least he'll have a good budget.

>>11093894
Or you can just stop fucking 20 buck hookers and get a better one.
Not all hookers are homeless toothless crackheads

>>11093832
Why risk leaving a paper trail with a mail order bride? Just stalk a college campus and look for some 10/10s to kidnap. The only advantage I can think of with the mail order bride is her coming into your house before you make your move, but it's also risking her sending a message on facebook or wherever about where you live.

I'm OP, posting from a new device.
>>11094583
>-You lack emotional affection/attention
Mainly this, I suppose (but it's becoming a combination of both). I started doing this because I was a 24 y/o kv and felt I needed some experience.

>>11094590
Been trying to do /nofap/ for a while...but obviously escorts are hindering my progress with that too

>>11093070
i feel for you

>>11094642
>Mainly this, I suppose (but it's becoming a combination of both). I started doing this because I was a 24 y/o kv and felt I needed some experience.


I was in your shoes, not sure how I can help but here it is:
Seeking attention and acceptance is a very bad thing it will hurt your life on extremely high scale, whatever you do simply stop this.

I wouldn't say I became addicted but I did spend tons in them for the same reason.
You have to understand first that these girls are on a whole other world, meaning they lie to absolutely everybody and don't care, their money is made on people like you and me.

Now I stopped escorts, I went back to my old habits, it's likely this will happen to you but this is your reality nobody else's and beyond your social misery the reality is that you are probably lazy and bored.
The good thing is that I replaced this shit with a now serious job and am on my way to play piano at a conservatory.

When I first did escorts it was for the same reasons, and in the end it did help me get experienced every way and what was really useful is getting to grow up emotionally.

>Been trying to do /nofap/ for a while...but obviously escorts are hindering my progress with that too

Escorts are only fine when you do it for getting laid and have somebody with you for a little while but don't get attached, it will end up badly every time.
After it I've actually never felt the need to fap anymore, so I find it weird that you struggle to stop this.

Frankly I think your problem is that you are lazy and have too much free time, find a serious work and hobby to do, educate yourself and stop thinking about others or being accepted, you will hurt yourself everytime.
At some point I dated an escorts, it did end up in a disaster.

>>11094768
Thanks for the post, but the thing is that I have a serious job (and I'm the wealthiest I've ever been....which may seem contradictory to my initial post) and it's the income from that job which has allowed me to even develop this addiction. I'm often the last one to leave my office because I use my work as an escape. What I meant re:nofap was that although I don't fap anymore, I count an orgasm with an escort as a relapse (my personal definition of nofap, as that practice is centered around self discipline). I did just buy a guitar and have really been enjoying practicing, also yesterday I passed the test for my motorcycle license, but the thing is that I start thinking about "rewarding" myself with a visit...it's fucked up

>>11094835
Fuck you man
You made me write all this for no reason. there is nothing wrong with you asshole.

You have no problem, you're just on a scale of easyness being easy and confortable.

You're not even addicted, you want to stop? Just stop and as time pass you will feel less need for it.
Literally just like eating habits.

>>11094642
I would honestly go /fullfap/ until you've gotten out of the habit of escorts, and then trying to dial it down slowly. Do you think that would work for you?

I'm not addicted and a good advice was already said (masturbate when you really feel the urge to fuck) but i've come to accept i probably prefer to fuck random escorts than random thots cause there's no weird expectation nor shenanigans involved (before and after), they are there to please me and I can do whatever I want, and im getting paranoid knowing thots barely ever test for stds while escorts do it regularly as fuck.

but if a shitcoin moons, yeah i'll probably spend quite a bit on them. there's barely anything that makes me harder then meeting a girl and 1 minute after she's sucking my cock

>>11093152
you should. its very fun.

>>11093894
not true at all. there's a lot of girls in that situation and there's a lot of girls who understood they can fuck the same dudes they would be fucking a friday/saturday night only they are getting paid.

>>11092074
are you that guy from /gif/ that can't stop posting the hooker you're in love with?

>>11095099
link it. im curious

>>11093859
he's not even in the top100 of this week

Nice blog phaggot

>>11093894
>500/h
>exploit
no

>>11092162
Degenerate

>>11095101
look up Lizzy or whatever in the archives
or search for slutty clothing threads

>>11094856
I appreciate your words breh. I wish I could meet girls normally

>>11094902
hmm might be worth a shot, but I'm on that semen retention buzz

>>11095075
>>11095128
these

People that post porn on this board should be banned. Instead of porn people should post stock buys.

Most men stay poor because of women. It may be escorts, sugar babies, girlfriends or wifes (in order from cheapest to most expensive). It doesnt matter, only chads (~20% of male population) get sex for free (because women really want their seed) the rest have to give them resources to compensate for their supodsely inferior seeds. So if you are not a Chad you have two options, be a rich permavirgin or a poor fucker, because no woman will let you get your dick wet if it is not in exchange of valuable resources (aka money in our modern society).

So because life is short, what do you want some nice and high numbers on a screen or fresh prime pussy? I already made that decision and thats why I spend all my spare money in escorts and sugar babies and dont regret it :^)

>>11095245
How much personal information do you give? I'd see one but you usually have to give your full name, post your linkedin profile, etc.

>>11092764
LMAO so the meme americucks cant get paid sex is real? You are even more cucked than sweeden bros. Just leave that puritanical shithole already. Here in my country there are several brothels in every district and hundreds of thousand of call girls waiting to suck you dick.

>>11092074
I would be more worried about the diseases you probably have than the financial consequences.

>>11096038
What? Do escorts seriouly ask for that info in USA. Here we can use a fake name with a pre paid sim card anf dont give away any info.

>>11096076
High end escorts take an STD test once every three months so any STD they catch will be cured early or reduced to undetectable levels so it wont be contagious. Also they use protection always and are sober while having sex (thinks regular girls dont always do) so even if they have lots of sexual partners the chances of geting an STD from a escort are pretty low.

>>11092162
Fucking scum.

Stuff like this makes me glad I caught the 2D bug early.

>>11096187
That won't protect you. Every three months is useless and even if it was every day, it won't protect you from whatever dick the whore took the night before seeing as HIV is not traceable until after a certain period of time.

>>11096276
Lets calculate chances then.

In my country 0.4% of the population in infected with HIV.

Of those 50% have it on undetectable (non-contagious) levels.

The chance of a HIV positive man to infect a escort trough condomless sex is like 1%. Because thay always use condoms (that reduce a 99% the HIV transmision rate), the chance of an HIV positive man to infect a escort is less than 0.1%

Because only 0.2% of the men are HIV positive with detectable blood levels, the chances that the man last night infected her is like 0.002%.

In worst cas HIV is detectable 3 months afeter exposure. Lets put a high end escort fuck like 10 dudes a month (30 in three months) so 0.002% * 30 = 0.06%

The chance of an HIV positive woman to infect a man without using a condom is 0.04%, because condoms reduce 99% the chances of HIV transmission using a condom it is really is 0.004% if she has HIV.

Since the probability that she has HIV es 0.06%. The probability that you get HIV form a high end escort is 0.0000024%.

If you are woried by those odds you better buy a lottery ticket because you have a much highger odds of becoming a millonarie than geting HIV from a escort.

>>11093894
One could argue you are contributing to their livelihood and suffering if you don’t use their services.

>>11096764
this is the dumbest shit I've ever read. have fun with the aids.

>>11096764
you are way too generous with chances here.
enjoy AIDS

>>11092074
Learn some self control or you don't deserve to make it.

>>11092764
>>11092764
Eros and Twitter/Switter.

Eros is great for seeing who's visiting your city but it's not great for verification and making sure a girls legit.

More girls are just on Twitter now than compared to the past, Eros doesn't let them advertise their sites anymore so they're really not using the platform anymore.

Key to using Eros and Twitter is to find a girl you like on Eros and only see her if she has a twitter/instagram with legit social presence. This becomes easier when you add enough girls, you can see if she's following/being followed by girls you know are legit and you can use other girls followers/followings to find other girls to add to your list.

What I said above isn't always 100% true though, you can go see a girl who doesn't have a social media presence and isn't connected to other women online but doing so increases your risk of getting robbed or switched & baited 100x. I've never been threatened sticking to this system after hundred of encounters so just trust it.

Just to breakdown my general workflow for seeing if a girls legit:

1.TER(if they're foreign)
2.P411
3.Twitter/Switter
4.Website.
5.Eros Listings
6.I'm friends with a couple of escorts on facebook and these girls usually add each other with their real accounts/names so I can always verify if someones a real person by doing some digging and seeing if they're friends with one of the girls I've already visited.

Just to give you an example of what a real girl looks like, look up Liara Roux. She's a high profile escort who's done AMA's on reddit and has filmed porn. There's 100% certainty if you book with her it's going to be safe and legit. Also the people she follows on twitter are probably going to be super legit as well.

Also my methodology only gets you hi-class girls, if you aren't willing to spend $400+ an hour then you need to do something different. I could go into more detail about that if anyone's interested?

wait what, are you guys serious?.
i though this escort was a big /biz/ meme.
Why not just hire a slut if you wanna fuck.

>>11097059
I'm going to die a virgin. Do you think I should make an appointment with Liara? She tours all over the US and is in my city every so often. I've read that she doesn't have much of a personality but she's really cute and she'd be my only chance. I'd be afraid to give her all that personal info though.

>>11097205
I mean there's tons of girls you could go and visit, I just listed her because she's the most prolific example of a verifiable girl I could think of.

There's a lot more cheaper and cuter options with more personality, if you want more people to see just let me know what you're interested in and what major city you live near/your age. I'll give you a laundry list of girls in that region who see people at your age who are 10/10 and not charging 3k for four hours minimum.

You're not gonna die a virgin anon, this is why qt escorts exist.

>>11092074
addiction to escorts = has aids and can't get women has to pay

kill yourself degenerate faggot

>>11097205
>>11097283

Following up cause I just read your other post, two things to note.

1. Don't worry about giving a girl your information as long as you know they're legit. You aren't running for president, no one cares and these girls never leak that shit unless you literally rape or kill one of them.

2. I'm personally friends with tons of these girls, not some larp or delusional shit either. I've genuinely hung out with these chicks and even dated one all without paying for the time, I've also had friends who've gone into the line of work who I knew when they were not a sex worker. They're normal people who like sex and like getting paid for it. Yes some are trafficked, but when you're paying upwards of 700 an hour for girls who are independent escorts, you'll find they aren't doing drugs(not hard drugs anyway), they aren't being forced into it, and occasionally they actually like doing it. Most of these high class girls are college educated with real jobs/businesses outside of escorting, many of the girls who are older than 28 or so are even married.

>>11097372
how do you get verified, I'm not on any social media and don't know anyone else who uses escorts in real life
also what are the STDs like it's the main thing keeping me from following through with meeting someone

>>11097372
>married escorts
i know some don't do sex, but personally i won't accept that my fiance sells her body, too degenerate for me.

>>11097407

This used to be easier when P411 had open registration, you could send your information to one source and 99% of girls would trust the site to make sure you're a legit person.

The key to getting verified is to be willing to send information such a LinkedIn with 300+ connections, your license/passport, work information, etc. to a girl. This sounds scary the first time you do it but you eventually realize these women have far more to be worried about than you do. Some girls will also do coffee dates where you pay to meet them in person and they verify you to make sure you aren't a creep who's going to rape them.

STDs are non-existent assuming you see girls who are higher class.The meth fiend who charges 50 dollars to fuck and lets you do it raw and has sex with 20 dudes a day will give you herpes guaranteed. Higher class escorts are doing everything above the board, you're essentially wearing a condom for any kind of interaction(the two exceptions to this are pornstars who make you test with one of their trusted doctors to make sure you have no STD's or girls who charge such high rates {1500 an hour} they can assume anyone they're fucking is not dabling with the crack whores).

The only 3 STD's you need to be worried about are HIV, Herpes, and HPV. HIV rates of transmission for Men from PIV sex are astronomically low, the whole straight people need to be worried about HIV as much as gay people thing is actual propaganda. 1/4 of the U.S. population has HPV right now and pretty much everyone gets it in some capacity at some point, as far as HPV and Herpes are concerned just wrap it up and don't fuck a chick who has any kind of visible wart/rash/outbreak. I will reiterate though that in my whole time fucking higher priced girls I've never encountered any kind of shit like that and I'm still clean after fucking hundred to thousands of girls for nearly 10 years.

>>11097549
that's an interesting system thanks for the reply

>>11092074
imagine seriously actually getting an actual escort

>>11097666
>dude, like, ahah, just imagine ..

kys