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Greetings, brainlets. I’m here to talk about Holochain (HOT) and its future. I will make a few posts because what I typed is quite long.

At first I thought this coin was a Pajeet pump and dump, complete with Discord shill routine and the works. I read all about the tech and the team, and I thought that it was mostly bullshit, because the team are a bunch of SJW weird creeps and their papers are full of complicated jargon. However, I decided to do further research, and I’d like to discuss my findings, which are rather interesting.

I started with the Holochain ICO address: 0xa28fc2102da86e424b37ad86c7bc7855fc441239

I wrote a python script to parse transactions and discovered that more than one ETH genesis wallet contributed to the Holo ICO. An ETH genesis wallet is one which contributed to the Ethereum ICO. Here are two that stuck out to me:

1) ETH genesis wallet which purchased over 1300 ETH:
https://etherscan.io/address/0xa9588ed3dc5b72f7d217a246fb4b0aa8918967d9

This whale consolidated his HOT at another address and hasn’t touched them since. His HOT holdings are currently worth more than $7 million.
https://etherscan.io/address/0x6554f8587d4d40e3e58f3fec7720270df96b314c#tokentxns

2) ETH genesis wallet which purchased 200 ETH worth at ICO. He still holds his HOT, currently valued at $1 million.
https://etherscan.io/tx/0x261eeb6574ba3d36fb92f313aedc084737365ebee953b66a4e92c6c6578f1b99

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>>11079760
Holo is also one of Binance’s top 10 holdings by USD value (does this remind you of anything?): https://etherscan.io/tokenholdings?a=0xfe9e8709d3215310075d67e3ed32a380ccf451c8&sort=total_price_usd&order=desc

On the subject of price, the recent "dump" in HOT/ETH happened only because of the gridlock on BTC/HOT and the ETH/BTC pump--this inverse correlation is perfectly visible in the HOT/ETH and ETH/BTC chart, and anyone with a grade-school understanding of math should understand this. In reality, HOT has mostly held its price and barely moved against BTC despite the large decline in volume.

It may continue to drop against ETH depending on what ETH does. ETH is currently near a potential local bottom, so if ETH pumps, HOT/ETH may drop. The key is that BTC/HOT is extremely stable, owing to the large sums of money pulling the strings.

While this is painful for the noobs who bought in ETH within the last week, this means that the whales manipulating this coin require less future volume to rocket above and beyond previous highs.

In fact, anon has been posting "fractal" threads for a number of weeks now, referring to the apparently repeating price action. I believe this cyclical price action is a consequence of the above factors and whale manipulation. Here are two I found in the archives:
>>11038545
>>11054664

Put simply, HOT has all of the properties that make for a 100x: whales who got in early with serious amounts of money, giant buy walls, very low price in sats, and a huge spread between the ETH and BTC pairs. What other coin did this happen to? TRX. "Coincidentally," HOT seems to be following the same pattern that Tron did in its early days.

There is a coordinated shill campaign slowly unfolding on social media: https://twitter.com/search?q=%24hot I’m currently writing a bot to monitor sentiment and post volume and compare it to price action.

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>>11079782
Other thoughts: maybe the idea is shit and doesn’t work, but development is extremely active. It is not vaporware. Maybe Mozilla isn’t going to partner with them, but they are clearly interested, and there are enough bread crumbs for this to be quite obvious.

Ask yourself this: are you smarter, or luckier, or whatever, than people who bought into the ETH ICO, held until this year, and then put a significant amount of ETH into the Holo ICO? Are you smarter than the people who run Binance?

tl;dr: I believe that at least one of two things is occurring:
1) people with very deep pockets, not Pajeets on Discord, have an interest in pumping this coin
or
2) this project is legitimate, and whales know it.

This is easily a $1B token, and we will see the previous pattern of price action repeat itself and grow larger until it reaches that valuation, if not higher.

Hold on to your butts.

>> No.11079864

>inc pajeet pnd feet boomer sjw

I appreciate the effort you are putting in this thread. Hopefully you will wake up some fellas.
Holo is obviously one of the best coin in the top 100 and it went from 140cmc to 40 during the last 2 months while everything else is bleeding, and apparently, it is "dumping".
What they are doing is truly disruptive to the current blockchain meta and there is no way that it won't reach 1b market cap.
Anyone who has a decent understanding of what holo is doing will understand.
Making almost every top 10 coins (eth, xlm, neo, etc.) useless.
There won't be another opportunity like this one in a long time, you either get in or you don't.

>> No.11079869

haha domp eet

>> No.11079904

The retarded hype will make it pump


Im ~230k$CAD in holo
all in

>> No.11079936

>>11079760
>Yuck! An obviously artificial shill campaign
>Hmm, maybe there's something to this...
[you are here]
>Nope, I was right the first time.

>> No.11079939

>>11079787
the problem with holo is that it's not a cryptocurrency. The token was added on top as a cashgrab. Holofuel serves no purpose. There's also no protection agaisnt double spends or attacks. It's not a crypto, it's some old p2p protocol that they decided to do a cashgrab now because ICOs are popular.

>> No.11079940

>>11079904
yea, it's a good project to hold long term, but since we are in crypto territory, it will be overly fucking pumped once the hype and fomo kicks in.
meaning that it will probably be a good idea to sell at one point.
The thing is that i'm leaving for 2 months in about 3 weeks, coming back on december 13. Hopefully I won't have missed the absolute highest of tops.

>> No.11079950

>>11079939
can you stop with this already. The holo team is working with binance so they can adapt the trading platform to holofuel.

>> No.11079971

>>11079950
>can you stop with this already. The holo team is working with binance so they can adapt the trading platform to holofuel.
holofuel is useless, it was added on top recently as a cashgrab. holo is not a crypto, it's a scam.

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>>11079971
unironically believing this

>> No.11080004

>>11079950
>facts
>"can you stop with this already"

>> No.11080007

>>11079760
https://stot.io

this is going to murder holochain lmfao

>> No.11080019

>>11079782
Ridiculously good work Anon.

From so many angles we can see why this will moon. I think its funny when people call scam when this is clearly the farthest thing from a scam if you just do the diligence to look into it.

>> No.11080044

>>11079864
I've seen the feet and the "KYC" spam and it is all just noise. I'm not sure Holo can really usurp the top ten, but when comparing it to a project like Cardano, a $1B valuation seems obvious.

>> No.11080054

>>11080004
Dude you just keep copypasting fud.
Look, if you really knew anything about holofuel and how it works, you would be able to articulate it with text, but obviously you can't. Holofuel is not useless, it does lose utility as it become more and more adopted but it holo would really need to become mainstream for that to happen and STILL, it would not be useless.
Now please stop copypasting stupid fud because your dumbass knows more than a group a people who has been developping the project for over 10 years.
You don't know anything and you should make this world a favor and kill your self.
This is 4chan, copypasting reddit stuff doesnt work here

>> No.11080090

>>11080004
>>11080054
With the mutual credit model they employ, my understanding is that people will simply be paying for computing power on the network. Unless I am wrong, this is basically what GNT, ETH, and ARK hoped to achieve and more. People here seem to stumble over the mutual credit model and the concept, but it's so simple. I don't think >>11079939 is accurate because people simply wouldn't donate computing power for free. While people do BOINC and similar, that is really niche and has very little adoption. This is completely different from something like Tor which makes sense to volunteer for. I don't understand most of the "FUD" people post here... most of it just seems like insane word salad. Apparently it is easier to copy-paste some nonsense than to actually discuss the topic.

>> No.11080095

>>11080054
>it does lose utility as it become more and more adopted
Gee, sounds great

>> No.11080107

>>11080095
>>11080054
It doesn't lose its utility, the price fluctuates within a narrower band until it finally reaches its true price, which should be below the cost of running a distributed application across multiple AWS instances for example, owing to the fact that people will be hosting on "spare" hardware, gaming computers, things like that.

>> No.11080112

>>11080054
>developping the project for over 10 years.
yet they use an ERC20 and can't define clearly what the point of holofuel is other than "durrr muh web hosting" and can't explain how a double spent are prevented.

Holo is 10 years old, I'll give you that, but it's not a crypto. It's some random p2p protocol with a token slapped on it as a cashgrab.

>> No.11080117

>>11080090
This is exactly it.This isn't that groundbreaking of a financial model. The globally distributed computer and no need for PoS/PoW makes it groundbreaking.

>> No.11080122

>>11080107
thanks for the clarification
>>11080112
you can change disc man, holofuel does hold value

>> No.11080131

>>11079782
Also, one of the reasons the price dropped temporarily is because some traders attached to it then sold off. People will come back and partnerships are coming

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Also, pro-tip for my fellow small fish: use the relative wall size on the BTC order books to determine trading direction. With a "normal" coin, there would be waves, big fluctuations obvious on a graph, like pic related. With Holo, what you see are these two walls changing sizes, fluctuating in exactly the same way, but it shows up almost a flat line on the chart because there's so much money concentrated around a giant chasm owing to the $ spread of a single sat. This is important and you must keep this in mind when trading this coin.

>> No.11080137

>>11080122
>you can change disc man, holofuel does hold value
dude you have no argument, all you're saying is 'duurrrr change disc' without disproving any of my points, because you can't, because it's a scam.

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>>11080134
>use the relative wall size on the BTC order books to determine trading direction
There are currently 153 BTC behind 17 sats. Earlier, the trend was down and there were about 60 BTC at 17, and at one point it even breached 16 sats, which should show as a wick on the chart on almost any time frame.

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>>11080107
The only FUD I need for this shitheap is that they don't respect Bitcoin, and they don't understand why it succeeded where every other "digital currency" failed.
The rest of this stuff is just fun arguing. It's such an easy win every time, the project is swiss cheese.

>> No.11080158

>>11080131
>Also, one of the reasons the price dropped temporarily is because
Mostly what anons are referring to is volatility on ETH/BTC. Example: >>11078905

>> No.11080168

>>11080153
I love Bitcoin but I think Holo is completely different and valuable in its own right

>> No.11080187

>>11080137
you haven't made any point and haven't shown any understanding of the tech with everything you said. Meanwhile there are posts in this thread that already disproved everything you said.>>11080090
>>11080107

you lose man just get over it. you lack understanding and you copypast fud from reddit

>> No.11080204

>>11080168
You might love Bitcoin, but the devs clearly don't and they clearly don't respect what an achievement it was.
Huge hubris and t b h ignorance.

>> No.11080213

Funny how not a single pajeet ITT is able to atrticulate what the raison d'etre of the shittoken is in 3 sentences or less

Utility coins are a meme unless they are called eth, however even eth would perform poorly even if it were actually used for things other than ponzi games and securities frauds

>> No.11080221

I sold my holo stack at about 685gwei, I thought it was just a pnd? Is this actually a legit long term hold?

>> No.11080251

>>11080187
>you haven't made any point and haven't shown any understanding of the tech with everything you said.

kek, you're a fucking brainlet. what consensus algo does it use? none. It's not a crypto. It's completely valueless. It can't "muh web hosting" because there's nothing to secure it.

>> No.11080254

>>11080204
If that's true then I guess nobody's perfect. Vitalik is a freak with bizarre opinions as well but I still love Ethereum.

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>>11079940
No its terrible for long use, none of these new coins are ANY good, Bitcoin and Ethereum are the 2 most financed and researched coins in the market of crypto. If the world ever comes to using crypto to buy normie shit like mcdonalds or anything normie related, its gonna be with either Bitcoin or Ethereum, GARANTEED.

>> No.11080287

>>11080117
Agreed

>> No.11080293

>>11080213
Yup it's nothing but HOT air.

>> No.11080306

>>11080254
>your devs are incompetent
>nobody's perfect
Get your shit together anon.

>> No.11080324

>>11080306
What are your favorite cryptos?

>> No.11080375

>>11080324
Why, are you scrambling for an attack vector?
Instead of wasting your energy why not just reflect on the "fud" you see in every thread, and realise that it is never properly addressed.

>> No.11080397

>>11080375
Why are you so hostile? Literally everything I say you just evade and try to pick a weak spot to attack. Why not just engage in civilized discourse instead of acting like a sperg? If you think it's a bad project and that nobody has addressed your concerns then fine, why are you still here? Ours impossible to talk to. Keep bumping the thread for all I care.

>> No.11080406

>>11080397
>Ours
You are*

>> No.11080410

>>11079760
show the "python script to parse transactions" in case you're not full of shit

>> No.11080417

>>11080397
>Literally everything I say you just evade and try to pick a weak spot to attack
kek, why are you avoiding the topic again brainlet? Have you even read the whitepaper? I have, no mention of how they plan on using this holofuel for web hosting and do it securely or how it would actually function technically. Do you know why? Because it's a scam.

>> No.11080421

>>11080397
>Why not just engage in civilized discourse instead of acting like a sperg?
The point of this board is if you see a bunch of idiots shilling garbage you don't have to be nice if you don't want to.
It's a stupid project and the devs are clowns.
And don't worry, I'm not bumping the thread ;)

>> No.11080447

>>11080417
not a single HOT holder has read the whitepaper obviously, i mean it's not bad to be abitious, but the chance that shit shit works is like 0.01%, yet all these moonboys talk like it's not just another erc-20 shitcoin with tons of promises and no sight of fulfilling them

>> No.11080464

>>11080447
It's so tiresome to argue with you people

>> No.11080468

>>11080421
Yeah you are lol, newfag
>sageru

>> No.11080482

>>11080213
We saw what happened with BOINC without it

>> No.11080487

>>11080464
>It's so tiresome to argue with you people
you're not arguing, you have no argument. All you're saying is "stop being mean guyyyyy".

You should work for holo, you'd fit right in with their onions boys SJWs

>> No.11080495

>>11080468
>Calling oldfags newfags
>Buying the top of a biz pnd
Never change

>> No.11080516

>>11080495
>biz pnd
>50 million in daily volume
>person doesn't even understand bump mechanics of 4chan threads
Not going to spoon feed you, but you are an idiot

>> No.11080527

What problems does Holo solve?

>> No.11080532

>>11080527
>What problems does Holo solve?
It solves the problem of some badly designed old vaporware not having any funding because it's shit.

>> No.11080545

>>11080527
the problem of not having enough overpriced erc-20 shitcoins in the crypto space

>> No.11080573

>>11080516
>Not going to spoon feed you, but you are an idiot
change your disc anon, you just keep saying the same thing over and over.

>> No.11080580

>>11080573
>I'll just copy paste something someone said to me
Bump

>> No.11080584

>>11080254
I love much tech, I'm here for the tech, ima faggot homosexual who emotionally loves muh tech

>> No.11080617

>>11080584
I'm here for the money and I'm excited for the tech, too. You sound like a literal teenager

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>>11080617
are you the faggot that laughed at me for selling at 21 sats? you sound just like him. he also kept spamming in another holo thread, desperately trying to defend this shitcoin. remember these sell orders? still laughing?

>> No.11080749

>>11080733
Nice trades, sorry about your mental illness lol

>> No.11080756

>>11080112
They fucking explain how they prevent double spend attacks in the currency paper you fucking dumb pleb. Do some reading before you open your whore mouth again. Now go KYS, fucking dumb cunt.

>> No.11080771

>>11080756
Careful, they still start talking about Sybil attacks (without understanding them) and "credit checks"

>> No.11080786

>>11079787
It has both traders who see it as the next TRX and whales who like the fundamentals alot are so are accumulating. That's a powerful combo

>> No.11080787

>>11080771
You are a fucking retard. Kill yourself.

Post where they don't have sybil protection and post where it requires credit checks. Last time you found something from 2016 that has already been removed.

>> No.11080816

>>11080787
Lmao what

>> No.11080826

>>11080787
I love your passion anon, but the poster you replied to is actually making fun of Holo non-believers. Think you missed the sarcasm.

>> No.11080832

>>11080787
the absolute state of holo holders

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>>11080826
>>11080832
>>11080787

>> No.11080986

>>11080584
If you only care about money, why do you think you're smarter than the guy who put 1375 genesis ETH into the Holo ICO and is still holding?

>> No.11081045

this thread is a shitshow

>> No.11081053

>>11080421
>It's a stupid project and the devs are clowns.
now there's some serious analysis from an intelligent individual

>> No.11081141

>>11081053
I honestly wonder if, during periods of relative calm, the accumulation meme is real and if people post FUD for that reason

>> No.11081194

>>11081141
Bingo

>> No.11081205

>>11079760
The dump yesterday revealed to the world the stuttering HOTheads that run this scam. Price has already tanked 15%. Once it breaks through the $0.001 resistance the panic will begin and small holders and speculators will begin to offload, with the whales already long gone. Once it shoots through the $0.00075 mark, unabated FEAR will ripe through all HOTheads. With all those who dumped their current accounts into this scam twitching at their arsehole continuously while refreshing binance. The $0.0005 mark will be met, the largest panic in history will ensue. The final deluded holoports will begin to go offline, and wagecuckers with their gender studies salaries loaded up in HOT will be left with it stuck in their wallet, unable to move it to binance to salvage some self respect. The price WILL tank at this point to sub $0.00025, and most probably sub ICO levels. From that day forward the deluded HOTheaded wagecucking gender studies feminists who bought this coin thinking it had fundamentals will go back to their jobs, with no money in their current accounts, to be made redundant by the next wave of pajeets arriving to undercut their wages. Deluded HOTheads will hold bags FOREVER, with no job, no money, and no crypto. I warned you HOTheads . There’s still time to get out. Sell NOW. Don’t be deluded, don’t be an HOThead .

>> No.11081268

>>11081205
autism

>> No.11081339

>>11081141
Exactly

>> No.11081346

>>11079782
When I'm old and on my death bed I'm going to be reminiscing about the times we spent on this Uruguayan bait and tackle image board. All the FUD, LARPS, shitposting and Sergey memes.

I won't be thinking about Christmas as a young boy with my family, I won't be thinking about playing high school football and making out with the prom king after his date passed out, nor will I be thinking about my college days. I also won't be thinking about my backstabbing whore wife who cheated on me and got throat fucked by a dark black nigger

I'm only going to be thinking of all the internets fun that we had together

>> No.11081359

>>11079760
Imagine being poor when being rich is as easy as buying shit coins

>> No.11081361

>>11080617
That's fine but you cryptofucktards talk about the tech like you want to jerk off in the logos of said coins your invested in.

>> No.11081435

>>11081361
>>11080986

>> No.11081439

>>11079760
Imagine being poor when being rich is as easy as buying shit coins

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>>11081359
>>11081439

>> No.11081521

>>11081361
>That's fine but you cryptofucktards talk about the tech like you want to jerk off in the logos of said coins your invested in.
you aren't by any chance that guy who goes on and on about shiny rocks are you?

>> No.11081554

>>11079760
>>11079782
I spent several hours figuring out how Holo works. Its not as good as it seems.

https://medium.com/holochain/beyond-blockchain-simple-scalable-cryptocurrencies-1eb7aebac6ae

>have to pass KYC + credit check for every coin on holochain. The whitepaper calls it the "membrane function." Holochain is ultimately based on trust, which means when you join a new subchain you have to have someone vouch for you. The only way to get money in holochain is through debt. Meaning you can spend money even if your balance is zero. You end up with negative balance and the other guy ends up with positive balance. If it was someone completely random with no KYC the debtor could just delete their account and make a new one over and over to get infinite money; a sybil attack. The membrane function prevents that from happening. You have to reveal who you are and prove you aren't a scammer. You have to prove that you are worthy of being issued credit. Its KYC or a credit check, however you want to call it. You cant just show up with your dick in your hand like bitcoin. Joining a coin on holochain requires social interaction. So you better practice your firm handshake and looking them in the eye.

>have to either maintain your own personal blockchain history, or trust that someone else is storing it for you. If either party loses the chain data you lose all your money. It doesn't have guaranteed permanence like bitcoin. If being a notary (a node that maintains records) ever becomes unprofitable they will dump your records and bail in a heartbeat.

>have to pay fees to notaries any time you do anything. Its ethereum all over again. This incentivizes the notary to maintain and preserve the Distributed Hash Table. The DHT is a database that prevents people from double spending.

>> No.11081558

>>11081554
>HOT is not even required to use holochain; its bordering on useless even if holochain succeeds. HOT is used to buy time on Holohost, the native compute node to holochain. You can easily compute your own personal blockchain even from a small computer like a smartphone so the vast majority of users will not need HOT. HOT may have some uses for IOT devices and embedded microcontrollers; computers too small to act as their own compute node. You also have to install a client capable of interacting with holo, the equivalent of metamask basically. If someone doesnt install the browser extension they will need HOT to use holochain. Holochain itself may have some uses, especially stuff that isnt transactional like a decentralized website or something. That still doesnt mean you will make any money on HOT. You are basically getting excited over something that belongs on /g/ at this point. Like I2P or IPFS or TOR or torrenting or something.

>> No.11081598

>>11081554
So you spent several hours figuring out o how holo works, and you come back to us to share what you e learnt, and all you do is copy and paste from an article

>> No.11081600

>>11081554
>have to pass KYC + credit check for every coin on holochain
there it is

>> No.11081607

>>11081600
>>11080771
>>11080787

>> No.11081639

>>11079760
This is good work op. It's clear some big money is going to do something with holo. Maybe just a pump and dump but still its gonna launch holo past all the shitcoins.

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>>11080771
>>11080787
>the fud is slowly sinking in

>> No.11081675

>>11081598
That is my writing. Its not from the article.

>> No.11081685

>>11081675
That is my writing. Its not from the article.

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HOT probably is the next TRON, and I mean that in every good and bad way. A complete vapor scam that'll still pump to high heaven because it's 'cheap', 'the next big thing' with a cool name, normie appeal and a shill army to pump it up.

I say this as someone who holds no HOT and never ever will. I'm legitimately not reverse shilling this coin to anyone, it's flaming garbage, I fucking hate it. I'm mostly in LINK and I kind of hope that HOT's inevitable hyperpump happens at the same time as LINK's singularity. LINK will still be/have been the better hold if so. if it happens any other time I'm going to feel like a retard who missed easy gains.

Shit, I'm doing a really fucking bad job fudding this token. It's boomer hype acid casualty vapor shit, infinite supply, team floats baseless partnership rumors, etc etc. It's fucking poison. And it's still going to andromeda because people are retards who are captivated by shiny shit like the GIF OP's image is from. Fuck normies.

>> No.11081710

>>11081600
>>11081607
My sides.
In a year, when this has pumped and dumped like Tron, and you're still holding huge bags,
are you going to remember seeing the flaws in this project posted over and over so many times that you started to sarcastically repeat them?
How are you going to rationalise that?

>> No.11081716

>>11081710
This stuff is just completely insane.
>credit check
I mean this is just autism, there is no other way to look at it. If this ever "pumps and dumps" like Tron, I will have made millions of dollars by then, so rationalization of fantastical nonsense posted on a Siberian underwater basket weaving forum will be the furthest thing from my mind.

>> No.11081755

>>11081716
Yes. Credit check. It's in the fucking medium articles it's not some conspiracy theory.

>> No.11081764

>>11081755
autism

>> No.11081775

>>11081716
>>11081755
This. They spell it out in plain english. You have to pass a credit check. Its not like im making shit up.

Just pound your fist on the table, give them a firm handshake, look them in the eye, and say "Ill take some credit!"

>> No.11081965

>>11081775
>Its not like im making shit up

>> No.11082107

Hitler Reacts to Understanding Holochain for the First Time

https://youtu.be/u3Qcx98XqII


be sure to turn on subtitles - cc button bottom right

>> No.11082124

>>11081716
>28
How else does a Mutual Credit System work?

>> No.11082149
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here's blockchains claim to fame

>> No.11082187 [DELETED] 

>>11082107
lol this is surprisingly natsoc

>> No.11082434

>>11082124
The silliness of the FUD is part of what turned me on to Holo

>> No.11082670

>>11081705
Pretty much.

>> No.11082673

>>11080787
>yawn
did someone convert you?

>> No.11082746

>>11080447
Hype is all that matters. People dont understand it but still are buying. What u doing? Take advantage of it.

Holo will go to at least 1bill. Imho just because of this

>> No.11082752

>>11082746
>Holo will go to at least 1bill. Imho just because of this
This is all you need to know
>>11079760
>This whale consolidated his HOT at another address and hasn’t touched them since. His HOT holdings are currently worth more than $7 million.
https://etherscan.io/address/0x6554f8587d4d40e3e58f3fec7720270df96b314c#tokentxns

>> No.11082766

>>11081705
Buy some hot. ride pump - buy more link with gains. Win?

>> No.11082934

>>11079864
>>11080044
>>11081600

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>>11082934

>> No.11083554

>>11083114
The Hulk ?

>> No.11083588

>>11083554
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwQgjq0mCdE

>> No.11084825

>>11079760
Retards will ignore and still FUD

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>>11081205
10/10

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I'm highly interested in DAG tech, and I like that there are appearently many active repos on github (I'm design algorithms in my wagey job).
But it also seems to me that the website lays untouched for weeks or months and they don't get around fixing all the TODO marks in their whitepapers, half of which are set in Word, which probably means some random wrote them. Like most projects those days, the technical whitepaper is painted in such broad strokes that I can only gather either a) only very few people contribute to the code or b) the whole open source development is more or less behind closed doors. They also try to do a million things at once.
Someone plz convince me what aspects of it is worth looking into? Does this have a chance to make gossip protocols work? If so, plz technical reference or performed tests (not the TODO whitepaper).
I like to see when CS veterans work on a project, but there are many much smaller (in market cap) DAG projects out there that seem just as functionl (i.e. not extremely fucntional, compares to ETH or EOS (and it's sad that those two are a standard in the first place))

>> No.11085057

>>11082752
OVER 6 BILLION HOT

That is rad.

>> No.11085209

>>11085019
Look into Constellation. that's all i am going to say

>> No.11085335

>>11082766
tempting.
at what price should we be dumping our HOT loads?

>> No.11085359

>>11079760
>see HOT get shilled
>Look at website
>Buy and forget
How hard is it?

>> No.11085373

You might be true and all, but my friend: how low will it go now?

>> No.11085820

What price will be HOT's "TRX @ 2000 sats"?

>> No.11086089

>>11082107
>a vaccine for capitalism

Based and redpilled.

>> No.11086131

>>11085335
33-50sats

>> No.11086161

>>11085373
probably back into the 400's on the eth pair.

>> No.11086368

>>11085373
It's not going "low," it's staying the same in sats. That's like saying BTC is dumping because ETH is pumping. If you think ETH will pump against BTC, buy ETH.

>> No.11086494

>>11085820
It's on the same path and the fibs line up. So 2000. Trx started it's pump from 18 sats.

>> No.11086520

>>11082434
>The silliness of the FUD is part of what turned me on to Holo
Good. I hope you learn a lesson.

>> No.11086523

>>11086494
Didn't TRX start from around 30?

>> No.11086543

>>11086520
What lesson?

>> No.11086574

>>11086494
you really think this can hit 2k sats? That's a bold prediction anon.

>> No.11086602

>>11086543
The lesson that being arbitrarily contrarian is not a reliable strategy.

>> No.11086650

Don't you fucking remind me that I have a bunch of these in a wallet I cannot use to transfer them to anything.

>> No.11086787

I'm looking into more whale addresses to see what they're doing. This person appears to be holding a lot as of two weeks ago. Did he purchase them on liqui?

https://etherscan.io/address/0x7977d25f2173be57404ca5591b713277f4582265#tokentxns

>> No.11086794

>>11086650
>Don't you fucking remind me that I have a bunch of these in a wallet I cannot use to transfer them to anything.
why can't you transfer them?

>> No.11086838
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Why is Binance putting a limit on how much I can sell my HOT for?

>> No.11086856

>>11086794
Basically I was a no coiner (and I guess still am) and I didn't do proper research. I remembered I opened a coinbase account a while ago and someone gave me and created an ethereum address through there to receive some holo from a really good person.

Little did I know I can't do dick with them because coinbase. They still show up though.

>> No.11086871

>>11086856
you can probably contact coinbase support and have them send the token to an address you control

>>11086838
kek

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>>11086787
Looks like an obscure Korean exchange owns 1 billion HOT
https://etherscan.io/address/0x72bcfa6932feacd91cb2ea44b0731ed8ae04d0d3

Not currently listed on their exchange (Hydro is, with the incorrect icon), so that's interesting

>> No.11086917

>>11086838
they implemented that after the last API hack because assholes were selling their VIA for 1BTC per and using hacked accounts to flash buy up to the order. Which they had to do to withdraw because the keys they stole didn't have withdrawals enabled.

So basically it's a way to mitigate the damage if another hack happens. I think you can only put an order between 1/10 and 10x the current price now.

>> No.11086952

>>11086838
>>11086917
>>11086871
>opening his sell order for 1000 sats early

>> No.11087049

>>11086871
I guess I'll do that.

Myetherwallet good for a new wallet?

>> No.11087124

>>11082766
This is what I'm doing. Sold 1/3 of my link stack to ride this hype train now I'm just praying they don't mainnet out of nowhere before I get a chance to dump this shitcoin back into the comfynsss of link

>> No.11087183

nothing is out yet and already a 30x

>> No.11087212

>>11087049
yeah its an ERC20 so you can hold them there. I use MEW and I like it.

>> No.11087445

>>11086523
No look on coin marketcap, lowest was 18sats.

>>11086574
I'm saying it's not out of the realm of possibility.

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>>11079760

Holo in a nutshell:

>boomers
>feet
>lesbians
>wheelchair feminists
>SJWs
>Traps
>not hiring white males unless they have to
>hippies
>think rich people are evil
>don't want you to get rich from investing in holo because "it's not about money"
>lead dev and the other guy are both faggots(maybe even together?)
>lead dev was the head of occupy wall street, gave speeches etc there
>lead dev pimped out his 5 year old daugher just to make a point about capitalism or something(taking it a bit too far there mate?)
>the structure of holochain is "feminine", not on purpose though feminine just turned out to be better and more robust according to lead dev
>use fancy buzzwords like "immune system" etc
>literally have to email the department of defense a selfie
>purchases exceeding 1,000,000 HOT require cavity search, including anal speculum
>cost of finger box not included, literally have to bring your own finger box
>you have to personally maintain your own chain(mandatory KYC ofc)
>your chain dies forever if you go offline, all data is lost since there's no global consensus
>HOT token supply is dynamic, can be created out of thin air in order to keep the price stable
>lead dev himself has said $1 is the absolute maximum the HOT token's price will ever be
>the HOT token is not even needed for using the chain

>> No.11087481

>>11087478
what is the purpose of spamming this?

>> No.11087727

>>11086787
Anyone know if this is some kind of Liqui cold wallet?

>> No.11087974

>>11087481
people want to buy low because everyone knows this will have a massive pump soon

>> No.11087977

>>11087974
ok but it's just weird
>cost of finger box not included, literally have to bring your own finger box
what does this even mean

>> No.11088059

>>11086912
did some more digging and it is indeed listed on this exchange: https://m.cashierest.com/

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>> No.11089080

>>11088718
based whales will take us there

>> No.11089204

>>11087481
autism

>> No.11089287

>>11089080
here's hoping

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>> No.11089357

>>11086871
Welp nevermind.

>Hi there,

>Thanks for writing into Coinbase Support. I understand that you’ve sent an unsupported digital asset to a Coinbase hosted wallet.

>Due to the inherent security risks involved with accessing specific private keys, our team cannot recover unsupported digital assets sent to a Coinbase hosted wallet.

>In the future, please exercise caution when sending digital currency. You should always confirm that our hosted wallet supports the digital asset you are about to send. For list of supported digital currencies by Coinbase, please visit this link: >https://support.coinbase.com/customer/en/portal/articles/2630943..

>Thank you for your understanding.

>Regards,
>Coinbase Support

Goddamn.

>> No.11089368

>>11089357
why'd you send it to coinbase?

>> No.11089414

>>11089368
I just didn't know. I'm not much into digital currencies, but I was told to come here and I was given that. I remembered I made an account in Coinbase ages ago and thought I could use that. "You just need an ethereum wallet"

Mind you it wasn't that much (20 bucks worth of HOT) but it will hurt very much if this does well.

>> No.11089487

>>11089414
tfw the coinbase jews took your $20,000

>> No.11089503

>>11089487
Yeah, I'm unlucky as all hell. I never invest into this shit because I know I'm going to get screwed. I can't even make 200 bucks to save my fucking life.

>> No.11089506

Looking into these guys https://twitter.com/Quark_Chain/status/1040978627121369088

>> No.11089523

>>11089506
Nvm, it seems like a dead end. Just some colors.

>>11089503
You should learn about Ethereum so you don't make similar mistakes. Myetherwallet is easy to use,

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>> No.11089665

>>11089523
Learned my lesson. I will still keep that coinbase account in case they get to the point where they support that in the future. I mean shit, those tokens are right there, visible.

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>>11089506
>>11089523

>> No.11090153

https://holochaincitizen.com/2018/09/15/why-did-this-agricultural-supply-chain-start-up-choose-holochain-over-stellar-ethereum-and-hashgraph/

>> No.11090620

>>11079760
JFC the amount of cope is extraordinary

>> No.11090976

>>11090620
lol, 50cents EOY, get in or get left behind.

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Is Holo a cow ?

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>>11079760

>> No.11091326

>>11091152
Tfw need a credit check to use Holochain

>> No.11091442

>>11090976
lol, I am just fudding to purchase more. I unironically purchased 9 million back in early August. It's my biggest bag.

>> No.11091572

>>11079760
The dump yesterday revealed to the world the stuttering HOTheads that run this scam. Price has already tanked 15%. Once it breaks through the $0.001 resistance the panic will begin and small holders and speculators will begin to offload, with the whales already long gone. Once it shoots through the $0.00075 mark, unabated FEAR will ripe through all HOTheads. With all those who dumped their current accounts into this scam twitching at their arsehole continuously while refreshing binance. The $0.0005 mark will be met, the largest panic in history will ensue. The final deluded holoports will begin to go offline, and wagecuckers with their gender studies salaries loaded up in HOT will be left with it stuck in their wallet, unable to move it to binance to salvage some self respect. The price WILL tank at this point to sub $0.00025, and most probably sub ICO levels. From that day forward the deluded HOTheaded wagecucking gender studies feminists who bought this coin thinking it had fundamentals will go back to their jobs, with no money in their current accounts, to be made redundant by the next wave of pajeets arriving to undercut their wages. Deluded HOTheads will hold bags FOREVER, with no job, no money, and no crypto. I warned you HOTheads . There’s still time to get out. Sell NOW. Don’t be deluded, don’t be an HOThead .

>> No.11091602

>>11079760
https://medium.com/holochain/beyond-blockchain-simple-scalable-cryptocurrencies-1eb7aebac6ae

>have to pass KYC + credit check for every coin on holochain. The whitepaper calls it the "membrane function." Holochain is ultimately based on trust, which means when you join a new subchain you have to have someone vouch for you. The only way to get money in holochain is through debt. Meaning you can spend money even if your balance is zero. You end up with negative balance and the other guy ends up with positive balance. If it was someone completely random with no KYC the debtor could just delete their account and make a new one over and over to get infinite money; a sybil attack. The membrane function prevents that from happening. You have to reveal who you are and prove you aren't a scammer. You have to prove that you are worthy of being issued credit. Its KYC or a credit check, however you want to call it. You cant just show up with your dick in your hand like bitcoin. Joining a coin on holochain requires social interaction. So you better practice your firm handshake and look them in the eye.

>have to either maintain your own personal blockchain history, or trust that someone else is storing it for you. If either party loses the chain data you lose all your money. It doesn't have guaranteed permanence like bitcoin. If being a notary (a node that maintains records) ever becomes unprofitable they will dump your records and bail in a heartbeat.

>have to pay fees to notaries any time you do anything. Its ethereum all over again. This incentivizes the notary to maintain and preserve the Distributed Hash Table. The DHT is a database that prevents people from double spending.

>> No.11091617

>>11091572
thx sir just market sold all ^_^

>> No.11091780

>>11091602
plus the finger box

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wow this is being slid crazy. 20 holo threads on the front page and they're all stupid.

>> No.11092077

>>11091925
I just get sick of you spamming it when it isnt even released yet and has no working product. Also its not that good of a product even. You are just greedy and too impatient to wait for something actually decent to come along.

>> No.11092090

>>11092077
>>11091925
I'm also phoneposting on multiple IPs and you'll never stop me from fudding your pajeet project

>> No.11092091

>>11092077
>You are just greedy and too impatient to wait for something actually decent to come along.
huh?

>> No.11092106

>>11087478
Holo in a nutshell:
>Vechain tier fake hype partnerships
>Mandatory KYC as Sybil protection

>> No.11092140

>>11092091
You should be shilling a quality coin like EOS. Not sjw cash grab credit check coins.

>> No.11092270

>>11079760
How many other tokens have Eth genesis wallets invested in?

>>11079950
>says something true
>”just stop saying that, here, just accept my wild speculation”

>> No.11092348

I’m tired from researching link idk if I can do it again back to back. How can you even get past the SJW part. It’s not even the fact they are SJW’s is the fact they care to let everyone know about it. Like who the fuck cares just build your product.

>> No.11092368

>>11092270
this, but the other way around

It's dumb to think that holo won't have any value if it's traded on an exchange.
And yes, they are working with binance to adapt a trading platform since it is true the holofuel isn't a cryptocurrencie

>> No.11092941

>>11092368
It's a mutual credit cryptocurrency

>> No.11093593

>>11092140
fuck off idiot

>> No.11093768

>>11092348
Still will make you money. You can ride the pump and dump your shit coins on sfw idiots. The dream?

>> No.11094330

The dump yesterday revealed to the world the stuttering HOTheads that run this scam. Price has already tanked 15%. Once it breaks through the $0.001 resistance the panic will begin and small holders and speculators will begin to offload, with the whales already long gone. Once it shoots through the $0.00075 mark, unabated FEAR will ripe through all HOTheads. With all those who dumped their current accounts into this scam twitching at their arsehole continuously while refreshing binance. The $0.0005 mark will be met, the largest panic in history will ensue. The final deluded holoports will begin to go offline, and wagecuckers with their gender studies salaries loaded up in HOT will be left with it stuck in their wallet, unable to move it to binance to salvage some self respect. The price WILL tank at this point to sub $0.00025, and most probably sub ICO levels. From that day forward the deluded HOTheaded wagecucking gender studies feminists who bought this coin thinking it had fundamentals will go back to their jobs, with no money in their current accounts, to be made redundant by the next wave of pajeets arriving to undercut their wages. Deluded HOTheads will hold bags FOREVER, with no job, no money, and no crypto. I warned you HOTheads . There’s still time to get out. Sell NOW. Don’t be deluded, don’t be an HOThead .

>> No.11094499

>>11079760
Absolutely mad thread OP.
Give yourself a hug man <3

>> No.11095007

>>11094330
Kys

>> No.11095100

>all the retards going on about credit checks cant understand what algorithms are

>> No.11095130

Fuck me, is this thread still alive?

>> No.11095195

>>11095130
The ride never ends

>> No.11095403

>>11095130
get in. or stay poor.

its that easy.

>> No.11095415

>>11079760
STOP FUCKING SHILLING THIS GARBAGE COIN. NOBODY CARES!!!!! The "project" has been proven to be a scam going back before crypto. Holo is fucking retarded. People have already lost a bunch of money and yet you idiots keep investing and getting dumped on. I've never invested in a shit coin because I'm not an idiot.

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>>11095415
nice FUD. i hope it works out for you... to buy in cheaper

>> No.11095439

>>11095130
Holo cant die - so cant this thread

>> No.11095451

>>11095415
>investing in shitcoins

>never going to make it

Choose one

>> No.11095477

>>11095451
Yeah that sure worked out for ether or every shitcoin that has crashed. There was literally one chance last year to make money off shitcoins. The people who make real money now trade bitcoin.

>> No.11095758

>>11095415
Cope: The Post

>> No.11095809

wow. this. is got. to . be . one. of . the .best. HOLO. threads .ever. Good job OP

>> No.11096021

binance will pump this to top 5 coin, watch it

>> No.11096062

>>11095100
>all the retards going on about credit checks cant understand what algorithms are.
Dunning Kruger level: max

>> No.11096605

>>11094330
>0
are you deluded? this is a binance wallet and they own/hold $47 million USD worth of HOT tokens. This is Binance's top 5 biggest holdings, there is no way they will let it dump to nothing and probably explains why Binance is balls deep in building stuff with the HOLO team. Infact, they will manipulate it during the next normie bullrun and pump this to billions mcap due to it being the 2nd cheapest coin on CMC's frontpage. Exactly what they did with TRX, which Binance held heaps of, before unloading it to normies at the top.

https://etherscan.io/tokenholdings?a=0xfe9e8709d3215310075d67e3ed32a380ccf451c8&sort=total_price_usd&order=desc