/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>11047853

i mean i don't think vitalik is DUMPING it, but his last weeks fud might be slightly intentional

100% agree it'll bounce back, we're at-or-near the bottom rn

>>11047853
up 100k on my ETH short

almost feel bad for the flippening crowd

>read obnoxious post like this

staying short

>>11047870
Take profits while you can dude, don't have to take out everything but if you opened this short earlier than a few days ago you could only x2 your profits if it goes to zero, don't be greedy

>>11047870
Best close those shorts soon, buddy-boy. Constantinople is just around the corner and Ethereum is still the #1 smart contract platform out there.

How are you not all going long on Cardano? It's clearly going to be a superior platform.

>>11047853
>flippening
Still bring up this meme
This guy gets it >>11047870

>>11048606
>PM me

>>11047853
Literally everyone thinks this will bounce hard: It won't. You'll just have sideways action for months.

>>11048680
this is my gut feeling as well. I do think it will go back up, just that it may take a lot longer than many think.

>>11047853

>>11048668
based and redpilled

>>11047853

This, unironically. Ether was hugely overvalued. This gives some nice breathing room for devs to get shit done without it so horribly expensive to send a transaction.

still in 2nd place after BTC !!!!!!
patience is the name of this game!!!!!

>the Flippening

Yeah, when BTC = 5000 sats and ETH = 5001 in EOY 2020

>>11049853
>BTC 5000 sats
You know what, just forget about it...

>>11047870
i want to go short too but dont know of a good vpn to use for bitmex

>>11050057
Kek

Down the hall and to the left fucking shitcoiners.

>>11050070
why would you short at $170?

btc too was $170 from $1400 back in 2014...

weird how it repeats

>>11050084
well i still think btc i going to 4k. If btc is still droping then eth is def dropping more

>>11047853
>flippening EOY 2020
Timeline of expected "flippenings"

May 2017: the Ripple flippening
June 2017: the Ethereum flippening
August 2017: the Bitcoin Cash flippening
November 2017: the Bitcoin Cash flippening
January 2018: the Ripple flippening
February 2018: the Ethereum flippening

Total actual flippenings: 0
I don’t disagree this is a great time to buy but the End result: Bitcoin is still and always will be the king. Best be buying link.

>>11050103
>>11050084
>>11048689
Vitalitk does not think it will hit 1k again guaranteed

>>11047859
Bottom will be 100 homie

>>11050185
even better

>>11050246
im thinking 70.00

>>11048680
This. Dont expect anything till at least 2020

>>11050166
the only one of those that even came close was Ethereum. What do you even mean by something like
>November 2017: the Bitcoin Cash flippening
it was 52% vs 11% ffs. Ethereum is the only one worthy of the mantle and will finish the job in 2020.

>>11047853
>>he doesn't understand that Vitalik is dumping it so as many people as possible could buy the 32 ETH required to stake to ensure that Ethereum stays decentralized after going PoS
Then why not lower 32 ETH to 16 or 8?

>>11050272
because then there would be too many nodes

supply is ~100mil
he's deemed 32 a good ratio of that

he cant just double the number of nodes
but he CAN lowkey make the 32 eth more decentralized/distributed by making it cheaper

Anyone who isn't cost averaging in on 32 eth is literally retarded

>thinks im wasting more than 3000 dollars to buy 32 shitcoins when supply has gone from 71 mil to 101 mil in only 3 years (40% increase in 3 years LMAO)

Nah thanks mate. I dont like to waste 3k on something that the miners (which is a monopoly scam) take days to get. You can buy them all

>>11050272
>>11050295
The staking requirement is 32 so that there can only be 3m nodes at max capacity. Why cap the number of nodes? Latency. If Ethereum took over the globe and everyone could validate you would have a massive problem spreading info over the network.

If you want an example go look at avalanche gossip protocols issue with slowing down as too many nodes join.

Chances are they won't let there be more then 2k-5k different shards or they won't be able to communicate with each other efficiently.

>>11050545
Look at bitcoins early emissions you fucking ingrate. inflation is lower then bitcoin now with the PoW change.

>>11050270
he doesn't know about the Bitcoin Cash pump to 0.5 BTC
it was very close that night

the real flippening will be when 0xBTC flips ether :^)

>>11050677
What? The highest BCH went in November was 0.24 BTC according to CMC.

>>11050185

errrrr i think you misread the article

he said "no more 1000x crypto gains"

not "eth will never be $1000"

how much will people make from staking? there will be so many nodes..

>>11050903
think the estimation is 5-10% ROI a year

idea is secure network + locked up eth will bolster price too obviously

>>11047853
>He thinks people are going to store their wealth in an inflationary shitcoin.
>He thinks a token with monetary policy so unclear we still don't know what inflation rates will look like in 2 years will have any chance at competing with scarce, hard capped currencies.

Just buy 0xBitcoin already and avoid this bullshit. It WILL be the currency asset on Ethereum.

>>11050185
who cares what he thinks he's a programmer, not an investor

>>11047853
>he invests his money in a man who would purposely crash the market and destroy the lives of innumerable of his own supporters in order to further his personal agenda

>>11050185
Went up 4500x
It won't go up another 1000x
Fucking genius this money skeleton

>>11050973
>Ethereum developers are so stupid
>Buy this ERC20
You realize that if 0xbtc becomes more profitable to mine than eth then you will reduce the security of your own network?
Why the hell would you FUD eth

>>11050677
/biz/ was live then
Bcash shills gave us a real good head start
Though some retards still held through the entire PnD.
2 months salary overnight
Good ol times, yep
*sip*

>>11050973
I do have some as a hedge just in case it becomes prominent on the network, but I won't risk more than 15% of my portfolio on something so uncertain.

>>11051002
The only other option would've been to keep the price high, inevitably leading to centralization when PoS hits. I wouldn't call foresight a "personal agenda". It's a short-term loss, all true believers shall be rewarded in the coming years.

>>11051066
lets be honest they wouldn't stick around, they're gonna sell moment their bags reach roi

it's a p&d with no purpose (unlike eth)

>>11051130
Who the hell do you think is buying all this Ethereum? It will be whales one way or another. There's no possible way to avoid this in a free market system.

>>11051174
The situation is actually reverse - who do you think has been selling all this Ethereum? Do you really think some random normies had so much Ethereum that they could crash the price like this? Of course there'll still be whales, but the barrier of entry is a lot smaller for average people now.

>>11051208
ICO's are selling retard.

> If you don't Trust in Him and watch 95% of your wealth evaporate in front of your eyes, you're not a true believer
You faggots are like a cult, and your cult leader openly hates and mocks you.

>>11051236
It's not like I'm holding ETH through this purge like a retard, it was predicted quite a while ago that its price would temporarily sink. My intended buy back is at around $90, but if it shows too heavy support at $120, then I'll just settle for that.

>>11047853

>so as many people as possible could buy the 32 ETH required to stake to ensure that Ethereum stays decentralized after going PoS

Well if decentralization is your goal why have the 32 limit at all? That's still quite a lot of money even at these levels.

>>11051002
Fuck this sounds like Elon....

guys I'm starting to feel fucking greedy! ETH is such a bargain right now. I haven't bought yet, but I can barely contain myself from pulling the trigger

>>11051439
because there needs to be a limit on total nodes

(3million-ish)

latency problems

>>11049853
BTC going to 5000 sats? Wew, at least 1 DOGE will ever stay 1 DOGE.

>>11051236
Icos arent selling, most hold 75% of their raised eth

>>11047870
Give me a high five, amazing profits from this short. I still belive in ETH, it's amazing tech and I can't wait to take the profits from my short and put them into a long again at ~130 - 140 somewhere not sure

>>11051543
Already bought in bro, maybe I'm too early but fuck it, never know when you hit rock bottom.

>>11047881
What is leverage? I am up 13% since yesterday wtf are you talking about this going to 0 would inironically make me a billionaire (won't happen)

>>11051648
I sold 32 ETH yesterday morning and ended up finding back in the evening, couldn't handle not having at least a node's worth.

Also, this money I have is really a lot for a wagecuck, but it's not life changing. The moon or bust, baby.

>>11051705
Why wouldn't you just sell and buy back once it finds a bottom? it makes no sense to hold your money in Ethereum out of all the coins that are currently out performing it long-term, including tether.

>>11051760
> Why wouldn't you generate a tax event to be a pussy?
Nah I'm good.

>>11051066
When did I say Ethereum devs are stupid? Ethereum is an amazing platform. I just said Ether (the token) is not valuable. Ethereum devs have literally said this.

And Ethereum is going PoS just fyi, so your second point is moot.

>>11051130
Only a retard would put a significant portion of their savings into a single crypto, obviously.

>>11051841
>avoid taxes
>lose 95% of your portfolio in the process
smart

>>11051886
if you think eth is never going to recover you're a special type of retard

>2020 btc is 50k, eth has PoS
hur dur marketcap will be less than 1bil

>>11051876
If PoS turns out to be a success, what use does a PoW token have?

>>11051886
95% from this price after being oversold like fuck?
Sounds reasonable.

Meh I have 100$ in crypto cause im not serious about it, decided to put it all in on this to see if i can make a quick few bucks.

>>11051910
ETH is never going to recover. Its price decline is based on fundamentals this time. It is deprecated technology that will not be able to scale. It is already being outperformed in every respect, and even if it does catch up in the next few years it will be too late. Smart money has already realized this and exited.

With that said, even if you do think it will recover, it's still retarded to "avoid taxes" at the expense of 5Xing your stack.

>>11050992
He's barely a programmer to be honest. He thought he could pitch a project to virtualize a quantum computer inside classical computers and it would solve P=NP

>>11051998
Sharing, plasma, pos, futures
Being retard must be tough

>>11051998
still have to be a fucking retard not to buy 32 ETH+ though even if it does go to zero. have you not studied nash equilibrium game theory

>>11051940
If Ethereum goes PoS and it is a success, then a PoW token will be all the more valuable because Ether will have a guaranteed and infinite inflation rate of 5-10% a year. 0xBitcoin would become the primary store of value token on Ethereum since it is deflationary, yet is usable in smart contracts just as ETH.

Furthermore, 2nd layer relayer systems like the ones Vitalik alluded to (pic related) allow for the relatively easy payment of gas in an ERC20 token through a relayer. This is already being developed as Lava Network, by the same dev who deployed the 0xBitcoin contract.

The reality is that Ether is not necessary to use most of the functionality of Ethereum, and 0xBitcoin is a significantly better currency since it is deflationary like Bitcoin and has a hard cap.

>>11052379
I've only studied falling knives theory, sorry.

>>11052055
what futures?

>>11052428
and link will connect between them all, of course, I get it!

>>11050295
what if he increases the required amount as the value of ETH has dropped and now more people will be able to stake

I don't know if ETH will recover, but I do know that the time to make money is times like this. When risk increases significantly and things feel hopless, that's when you make your money. You don't make money buying into giant green dildos. Most people here know this intellectually, but they don't truly understand it or internalize it.

>>11053672
This is only true if the fundamentals are solid. The fundamentals are not solid my Ethereum. How many people got rich off Nano after the Bitgrail hack? How many got rich after BitConnect collapsed?

>>11053706
>This is only true if the fundamentals are solid. The fundamentals are not solid my Ethereum
it's widely used, responsible for many millions in dapp economy alone, which is saying something

What I mean is that even though the price of the "coin" itself has cratered, dapps have done and continue to do a lot of volume, which is meaningful

Not saying you're wrong, i agree with you, just suggesting that it's far more than Nano and BitConnect which were always shit.

>>11053719
>it's widely used
No it's not. It's been out for 3 years and has like 5,000 daily users for all of its dapps combined. Even EOS has more than that.

>>11053744
> Even EOS has more than that
oh I see what I'm dealing with now, kek
fucking retard

>>11053751
It's true though. Prove me wrong.

>>11053765
sigh
it's just so easy to shoot these fire and forget meme posts and takes real effort to refute them, you don't care about engaging in good-faith discourse and would rather shitpost, i've seen yyou repost this many times and you've gotten a number of valid responses and yet you ignore them and continue on as though nothing as changed, because you are either a retard or a kike

makes no difference to me

>>11053786
You can't deny that what I said is true. Ethereum has pathetic adoption and it doesn't scale. Its fundamentals are in the toilet. Its token economics are retarded, GAS is retarded, mining is retarded. When they fix all these problems then you can say the fundamentals don't warrant the price crash.

>>11053765
>>11053786
Here, bystanders, look:
>>/biz/thread/11044195#p11045277
>>/biz/thread/11034929#p11036741
>>/biz/thread/11025244#p11027717
>>/biz/thread/11025244#p11025736
>>/biz/thread/11025244#p11026213

All valid responses to the same autistic, disingenuous faggot bag holder which he simply ignores

>>11053817
Those are just substanceless COPE responses.

>>11053827
k

>>11053817
>>11053827
>>11053833
Btw, to anyone who doesn't know, EOS is just a cluster. It is permissioned and token owners can revert their token transfers at any time among other things. The entire premise assumes that all dApps have a central authority, which is a joke. It's just one big "me too" gimmick. It does work and it's faster than Ethereum but so is literally just running a server using Python which is the logical conclusion of what EOS is. But this bagholding retard doesn't understand that
>inb4 ETH/EOS pair graphic that he always posts in response

>>11053833
>>11053855
You know what the funny thing is? Back when I was first getting into crypto last year and doing a ton of research, I seriously considered Ethereum, but the one thing that was holding me back was its scaling problems. I read about how they were "planning PoS", and how it kept getting delayed, and I said fuck that, it's never going to happen. I bought EOS instead. Now instead of being down 30% I'm up 3x. But sure, I'm the idiot.

maybe now isnt the time, who knows how lower we have to go, but ethereum has taken a dive even bitcoin hasn't yet.

this is the kind of period people were buying in during the end of 2014 to the end of 2015 for bitcoin. when it slumped back down to the lowest it's been, a period of inactivity when interest from speculators tapered off, when the tech didn't look like it was making any real breakthroughs.

eth is still in a unique position shared by no other alts. only bitcoin has more recognition, developer interest, and users. and if smart contracts are the real deal, ethereum is going to capitalize more than any other platform, by a large majority, just due to it's preexistence and inertia with developers and existing infrastructure.

its not necessarily going to make you rich like it did early adopters, but then again, nothing else really is this late into crypto's speculative phase.

>>11052428
But ether being inflationary or deflationary is a conscious choice, not a bug. If it would make sense for gas to be deflatory, why wouldn't ether do it itself?

>>11053873
>Now instead of being down 30% I'm up 3x
All you have is talk. price talk, exactly like I said. Well, guess what? People who purchased HOT in the time that you've been holding EOS are up probably 900% compared to you kek

But anyway back to reality, >>11053855 is true, listening to you sperg on about performance when the reality is that these products aren't at all similar at which point you finally resort to muh price when called on it is just tired, the music has stopped playing and you are a retard, full stop

>>11053889
this

when btc dropped from $1400 to $150 in 2014, sure it looked bleak... but look where those buyers of the dip are now

i got eth at $200 afew days ago, cant wait to 10x

>>11053895
HOT wasn't around last year retard. Yeah, all I have is price. And adoption. And daily usage. And speed. And momentum. And bigger investments. You'v got cult-like delusion, I definitely can't compete with that.

>>11053908
it may not 10x, but you will see gains.

>>11053817
BTFO
how will this EOS fag ever recover?

>>11053944
why are you even supporting EOS? fundamentally you want one thing: money
that's fine but in the long run BTC will crush it because it's a "me too" platform with nothing going for it
>speed
ok so run a server on a raspberry pi, it will literally scale better than EOS with its half-second block time

you have fundamental misconceptions about crypto and your platform of choice, which you are emotionally tied to

>>11053958
>i'm in it for the tech
>i don't even care about the price
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ETH BAG HOLDERS I LOVE YOU

>>11053956
yeah, he's too stupid to notice that he leaves a fingerprint with his autistic shitposting and this is easy to follow, he'll probably be here in the future posting the same shit and anons can easily call him on it. whoops, better go back to reddįt and make sock accounts.

>>11053980
Imagine being so autistic that you keep track of all the people posting in all 800 threads about Ethereum daily. I'm sure you have a fulfilling life anon

>>11053979
actually I'm in it for both which is why I have a diversified portfolio and have made more money than you lol, unlike you I'm not delusional and see the world as it is objectively, and I'm capable of evaluating things objectively as well without resorting to (at risk of using the meme) autistic NPC-tier unidirectional spam

>>11053994
it took literally 10 seconds to pull that up you hopelessly unintelligent fuck

>>11053995
>and have made more money than you lo
Not if you're holding Ethereum

>and I'm capable of evaluating things objectively
If that were true you would have sold Ethereu

>>11054006
do you even have a minimum of 21 bitcoins in cold storage bro
:^)
nice reaction images btw, I'm sure if you post smug laughing jpgs that'll increase your IQ or change the fact that you're embarrassing yourself

hey btw
>>/biz/thread/11044195#p11045277
>>/biz/thread/11034929#p11036741
>>/biz/thread/11025244#p11027717
>>/biz/thread/11025244#p11025736
>>/biz/thread/11025244#p11026213
sick autismposting bro

>>11054003
imagine having such a fulfilling life that you've mastered the art of sifting through hundreds of 4chan threads and picking out posts by specific users that you recognize....

>>11054017
>sifting through hundreds of 4chan threads

>>11053980
the EOS bags must be heavy for him.

>>11054017
>>11054006
>>11053994
lmao @ that brainlet

alright done wasting my time with you
have fun with your centralized cluster

>>11054041
>EOS bags
Rich coming from a mETHead. Did you miss the part where I said I was 3x my initial?

what's ironic is nobody is buying eos for the tech, because it doesn't have any tech. if it did, it wouldn't be fundamentally restricted to 21 nodes. the tech is so primitive, just like all other blockchains today, that it literally can't scale without stripping away all of the decentralization/syntonization/verification that's done on code-protected blockchains. instead they throw it all away and allow people to make decisions arbitrarily about what the state of the blockchain could be.

but for speculators, eos is just the late adopter's ethereum, just as it was sold to VCs. "hey, you missed out on ethereum, we're building a 'better' platform, buy our token instead". its there for one purpose only, for dan and his insiders to double dip on the funding process, while he invalidates/obsoletes all of his previous projects, but nothing else in the crypto space.

>>11054048
>only 3x

Nice Bart formation on ETH right now.
Prepare to buy in again or simply buy more soon

>>11054073
This is the sort of tech illiteracy that has prevented you from capitalizing on the best performing top 50 coin over the past year.

>>11054041
>>11054044
>>11054075
kek

>>11054048
this is all you have and even that is so small, so meaningless because you are a little shrimp, you know nothing and you are nothing

see you in 3 years faggot

>>11054115
>the psychology of a person with a micropenis

>>11054108
>EOS bagholder calling someone else tech illiterate

>>11054126
I'm a software developer. The reason I knew EOS was going to be a winner is because I understand why there's a market for their product and have not boxed myself into a black and white ideology like you and other mETHeads have. I've also developed on both platforms and it's like night and day. My investment performance speaks for itself.

>>11054108
>over the past year
are you even listening? i've capitalized over the past 5-6, and sure, i own several thousand EOS, but that's a pure speculation play, because that's really all it's good for. i've made orders of magnitude more money via ethereum than eos, and eos still topped out at a 10-15x investment at best since its launch.

it just makes no sense for you to obsess over long term variables like adoption/developer interest when EOS is going to have a harder time surviving than any other large blockchain project by the fundamental nature of it's broken consensus/voting model.

>when your claim to fame is that you doubled your lunch money

>>11054108
lol this is objectively false
Tfw my play stack is bigger than your entire portfolio which is probably all in EOS which is why you post this retard tier nonsense

>>11054152
>i own several thousand EOS
No you don't. You're a joke with low self-esteem who needs to lie on an anonymous vietnamese basket weaving image board to make yourself feel better about your catastrophic market losses.

>>11054152
kek this
but you're arguing with someone who is too unintelligent to comprehend what you're saying, and is unwilling to even try on top of that

>>11054161
>le micropenis face

>>11054121
>literally arguing like a hole

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
embarrassing

>>11054163
lol

>>11053891
Well that's my point. It makes sense for the Ethereum network for Ether to be inflationary and go PoS. But just this makes sense, it doesn't mean it makes sense for the average user to store their wealth in Ethereum.

>eos is superior
>>/biz/thread/11044195#p11045277
>>/biz/thread/11034929#p11036741
>>/biz/thread/11025244#p11027717
>>/biz/thread/11025244#p11025736
>>/biz/thread/11025244#p11026213

>w-w-well 3x price!
>>11054160

>w-w-w-w-w-well you have a small penis!
lol just go back to reddït already low IQ faggot, we get it you're a genius software developer who loves a piggynback product, a cluster you have to pay for, designed to fleece low information individuals
you have to go back

>>11054174
yeah, but that's what emotional "investing" does to people.

>all these ass blasted eth bag holders being so easy to troll
Kek this is gold. You can tell all the smart ones have sold by now. Np bf left but a bunch of delusional mouth breathers from Reddit

>>11054145
This, I love ETH and understand it
>>11050616
>>11050628

But EOS has a place too and unarguably has 250x resources and 28x faster. There is a need for that. Only bitrock retards think that this space will see adoption with slow forced state chains. If you have ever worked on any large scale computing project you get this.

EOS - Parrellization
ETH - Sharding
DAG - Galaxies
HOT - Neighborhoods

It's all flavors of the same thing and the only way forward for this to become "web 3.0"

tfw you are Very Smart and your investment speaks for itself

>>11052428
Inflation going to holder is not the same as inflation going to miners. Neck yourself brainlet.

Inflation is negative in our constructs because it is out of the hands of the people. Inflation in PoS is based because it goes directly to who it should.

>>11054243
>500% gains for the year

feels good faggot

>>11054205
under proof of stake a deflationary or zero inflation model is generally best, but that demands a fee market.

right now ethereum isn't really reliant on price, because asics are slowly eating the mining economy, which means a lower price like today is still profitable for them. but come proof of stake the value of ether itself is the security, and the whole model reverses in on itself, and ether needs to retain or grow in value relative to the security demands for everything running on top of ethereum, including all layers, shards, contracts, token value, etc.

that might make ether a good speculative store of value, but its contingent on proof of stake actually working, and we haven't seen a large scale test of that model yet (broken imitations like delegated proof of stake aren't really relevant).

>>11054243
Zoom out retard

>>11054258
wow everyone look at this performance
>>11054160

he's in it for the money that's why he's down 50% failing to rebalance while eating a boatload of opportunity cost on top of that

guys am i smart yet? guys?
lol /r/eos is that way faggot ->
i guess these retards forgot what it's like not to be jerked off just for wearing the same color t shirt

and again you have lunch money so it doesn't matter

>>11054292
See: >>11054278
I don't trade the 5 minute candles like you do anon.

>>11054278
>over 1 year
whats the point of late adopter comparisons like this? ethereum has been around on the open market since 2015 at a couple of cents per ether.

not everybody got into crypto a decade late.

>>11054278
yes fren I'm sure you bought a substantial amount in October '17 and held since then :^)
>>11054305
ironing

One final note before I go
>>/biz/thread/11044195#p11045277
>>/biz/thread/11034929#p11036741
>>/biz/thread/11025244#p11027717
>>/biz/thread/11025244#p11025736
>>/biz/thread/11025244#p11026213

bye retard

>>11054310
haven't you left this thread like 8 times already? Why do you hate yourself so much?

>>11054305
>only 3x in a year

>>11054309
This is racist, some of us only have 10,000 rupees and if this means we have to shill our newfag scam bags on 4chan then who are you to say otherwise? do the needful I AM A SOFTWARE DEVELOPER MY MOTHER IS VERY PROUD OF ME SIRS

>>11048783
>This gives some nice breathing room for devs to get shit done without it so horribly expensive to send a transaction.
what is a testnet

>>11054356
>the absolute state of mETHheads
so sensitive. so fragile

>>11054309
What the fuck is wrong with you.

I bought all of my Ether for $7 went 110x and then went an additional 3.8x on EOS and now I have gone 6x on Holo. You don't just win once and stop if you are smart. I have already bought a business and am opening another one with my gains. If you aren't an illiterate retard there is another 5 years of easy money in the space.

So the point of the comparisons is that it's fucking 2018 not 2015 and there is still massive wealth to be made.

>>11054411
protip: he's LARPing. He actually bought Ethereum in the four digit range.

GO ETH GO

>>11054265
Well sure, 0xBTC's success is all dependent on the functioning of Ethereum. And you are correct in saying that Ether needs to hold value in order for PoS to be successful. But this does not mean that Ether has to be the primary SoV. It will retain value to an extent, but the lack of scarcity means that it should grow slowly compared to 0xBTC.

>>11054411
no, it just doesn't make sense to choose some arbitrary date in the past to make flawed comparisons.

>>11054437
funny how obsessed you are with telling everybody how much money you've made, yet you can't handle it when you find somebody that's done significantly better than you have.

>>11054486
0xbtc is a random shitcoin that has no users or future. it's not relevant.

$170 was the perfect bottom

LETS GO VITALIK

>>11047853

Duno about flippening bro

Just buy both and don’t be a pleb

Oh ya xmr too

>>11054506
I haven't told anyone how much money I've made or the size of my portfolio. The only thing that's relevant is who picked the winner and who picked the loser. I picked the winner, you picked the loser.

>>11054528
don't underestimate just how much ether was raised by ICOs that still hasn't been sold. the irony is the huge success of ethereum as a platform has made it massively underperform relative to it's other metrics in this market.

>>11054543
the irony is just embarrassing.

>>11054566
what's really embarrassing is this

>>11054554
I have friends that work for ETH based ICOs and they get paid in ETH to their USD pegged salary so they have been burning through their ETH stacks a lot faster but creating the same amount of downward pressure. So either the market picks up and the effect becomes very small or they keep paying everyone until the market is decimated & eventually they run out of ETH.

>>11054601
there are a lot of irrational players though that got greedy and held onto their ETH hoping for further gains, and have been panic selling. those are the groups causing the huge downward pressure, not those cashing out wages.

>>11054518
I tend to disagree; it's a scarce and mineable asset on Ethereum. I think many people would be interested in using a cryptocurrency with virtually the same functionality as Ether but without the inflation.

>>11054621
which means this crash is temporary and we'll be back to $500 in no time :))

>>11054663
it's not scarce though, because it has no utility. there are an infinite number of alts just like it out there, with the same amount of utility, users, and acceptance.

mineable assets outside of bitcoin are on the way out long term.

>>11054663
They won't, because inflation does not matter at all when it's going proportionately to the people that hold the coin.

Also, 0xbtc has inflation so go die. Quit shilling this coin, it's centralized to FPGA miners and is pointless.

>>11054705
Are there an infinite number of alt just like it out there? 0xBCH was a carbon copy of 0xBTC and has since entirely died, as did 0xDOGE and 0xLTC. So clearly it is scarce or else all of these other tokens would have similar values instead of 0xBTC being the only one with value.

>>11054709
I'm not convinced of its centralization to FPGA miners.. hashrate is pretty fuckin low

>>11053765

Centralized shitcoin

Good luck with that bro

>>11050070
tunnelbear gives free trial data montlhly

>>11054017
imagine being such a low tier newfag cocksmoking shill that you get called out on an anonymous imageboard for past posts
I knew it was you too faggot

>>11053817
>Here, bystanders, look:

>>11055486
Wtf I just mortgaged my house to buy ethereum thanks 4chan autist detective