/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>11029919
Brains required. You are talking to /biz/ here buddy

>>11029938
>software engineer
>brains required
Not if you're working with C# / .NET. It becomes more and more automated every day. Eventually you will just push buttons to create software, and the computer will do all the programming for you. C# jobs are tomorrow's data entry jobs.

And C# is quickly becoming industry standard.

>>11029961
>C# jobs are tomorrow's data entry jobs.
at least they'll still exist

>>11029961
maybe if you're programming shit apps for zoomers. Job replacing, automating stuff will still require brains

>>11030105
Not if the automating part is automated too

>>11029919
self-improving AI

>>11030125
you cant automate software building, if its to be used in industry or critical conditions. Would you hop in a train running on software that was done by other software? dont think so..

>>11030158
>you cant automate software building
wanna know how I know you don't have a CS degree?

>>11030207
show me that magic AI programming serious stuff, college boy

>>11029919
I have 90 hectares of ginger to plant and grow, can you come and automate that for me, faggot?

>he works for somebody else
>he thinks he will make it

>>11030630
I don't tho

>tfw still in college and running my own saas

>>11029919
I am

>>11030698
based

>>11029919
Applying for automation engineering jobs as we speak. See ya boys

>>11029919
Because i don't think my piece if shit company will ever move their finishing department out of the 1960s.

should I all in on learning programming? I have business degree and no career or experience

Just started learning R and Python wish I did it years earlier.

Still struggling with loops though

>>11029961
can a brainlet write a RAT in C#? what parts are automated? last time i touched C# was like 7 years ago in a beginner programming class

>>11029919
Because I'm too stupid.

>>11029919

Jokes on you frogposter. My wife and I chose jobs that can never be automated.

>>11029919
i am

>>11031787
wine taster?

>>11030517
They'll be selling you the tractor drones that automagically plant from seeds (easy) to ginger roots (less easy) and the aerial drones that water and spray your shit. You can't escape them...

Programming is the job of the future until it's automated (it will) and then philosophy again becomes the job of the future. People will just have to be coming up with ideas for robots to implement and automate

>>11029919
You think AI is going to just automate jobs at the whim of some code monkey? The first thing that will get automated isn't going to be truck drivers, accountants, doctors, or whatever those comp sci losers brag about being able o replace. It's the comp sci boys themselves. We are making a new god and its creator will be a group of egotistical man children who will write themselves out of society.

>>11032449
Pretty soon wine tasting can be automated right now if someone wants to do it. You use a spectrum analyzer on a range of wines and then make some human wine tasters (expensive ones) rate the wines. Then you feed the data into the little magic box and boom you've got a robotic wine taster.

Although I bet more than half the job of wine tasting is being full of shit and talking like that, skills that will take robots some centuries to understand yet

Inconclusive

>>11032565
*pretty sure, not soon

Web developer masterace reporting in.

>Like the internet?

Thanks, we made it.

>Think Facebook and social media is changing our society?

Thanks, we made it.

>Amazon and e-commerce annihilating your local stores and pushing the envelope of consumerism in 21st century?

Thanks, we made it.

Faggots complain about web languages (javascript, css, html) intricacies all because it takes YEARS of experience to master and then EVOLVES every year instead of python/C/java's handouts to plebeians.

If you can't put in the time to learn or keep up your knowledge => YOU DIE. Just like nature intended.

>Job security

Do you think the internet is going anywhere, faggot?

Also, today's Desktop, mobile, and POS applications are being built in javascript React. Why? Because it's FASTER to go to market than any other languages and javascript developers are on average YOUNGER, SMARTER, & BETTER programmers than the pajeets who make up 90% of the users of other programming languages.

>t. Web developer
>Working remote from Japan
>180k/year
>No college degree

>>11032983
so javascript is worth learning?

>>11032564
the advancement of software development and theirs tools just gives developers the ability to focus on harder problems which were not solvable before, there is no end

if there would be a software which writes any kind of software we would be fucked anyway, its also kinda impossible see halting problem etc.

>>11032565
Lmao.
Thats not even how tasting works. If you think even "the experts" are consistent, youre wrong

>>11032993

https://www.udemy.com/react-redux/

Thank me later.

>>11032983
Desu help me. I'm 25, the bear market in Latinamerica has affected me and all my family.

I started today the edx CS50 course. I just completed the first pset (some game on scratch. Basic, I know.)

I got no coding knowledge but I got the determination to help my family. I speak 3 languages and I play 3 instruments. And a degree in video production (shows determination and that I'm not 100% a brainlet)

What can I do get the results you've gotten? What do you recommend after the CS50 course?

I dont get paid enough to have my job automated

>>11033123

https://www.udemy.com/react-redux/

React is the most in-demand javascript framework currently. Learning and mastering this will get you into the best paying jobs the fastest.

>>11033123
start working on websites/webapps to build a portfolio. you dont need that much coding if you stick with websites, webapps will require some coding.
once you get a hang of it, start posting on freelance and classifieds. it won't be much, but seeing how things are going in south america it might help.
I am a brainlet, but maybe it helps you. Figma is a good and free app for prototyping and visual design, youtube tutorials are good. I learnt html/css/javascript, then react and database of your choosing (sql are most popular, but nosql is still pretty good). I use Visual Studio Code as an editor.
Good luck, anon

>>11029919
I unironically dropped out of my Chemical Engineering MSci yesterday to apply for a Computer Science MSci next year. Not like I wouldn't have got a chem eng job, I worked at ExxonMobil this summer, but I know CS has a brighter future. I'll spend this year learning how to program before I start the Masters. CS50x begins Thursday.

>>11029919
Can you hurry the fuck up and automate my job already, fucking sick of this shit

Don’t go into web-dev. Learn some statistics (its hard) / ML / Linear Algebra and then focus on applications of ML in business like churn modelling / propensity modelling / pricing elasticity / multivariate test / funnel optimisation.

Later move into Quant Finance, if you have guts.

Anyone got any ideas on what to code in order to generate cash? Technical skills is only half the battle, you need good ideas too.

I have a twitter bot that I made in node.js which has earned me substantial commissions from some crypto exchanges, as well as market maker bots for both Binance and BitMEX that I wrote in python, both of which earn a nice bit on the side.

But what else is there? I have taken the Machine Learning course on Coursera, but I struggle to think of any way I can apply it to some sort of automated system. Applying it to trading is really only suitable for HFT and portfolio management, the former is unrealistic for an individual and the latter is still ultimately a manual process.

I've considered a DAPP like Fomo3D but it would require me to learn Solidity, and there are a ton of games like that already. For mine to get any attention would require an initial investment and some marketing, so I'm not too confident in that route.

Any ideas?

>>11031669
Very helpful:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnSu9hHGq5o

>>11031669
As a mathematical modeler and data scientist I am a professional user of R among other langs and stacks.
The best advice for learning R I can give you is swirl: https://swirlstats.com/students.html
swirl is a package containing interactive R tutorials going very meticuously from absolute basics to advanced features and techniques in used in professional enviromnment. We use it for our student interns to learn them R. You absolutely need to familiarize yourself with the "tidiverse" way of doing stuff in R.
For best chances for a top job in real data science you need to very well understand the business of your area, so economics/supply chain/natural sciences degree is big plus.
For more realistic entry level data science, which will be in fact only dashboarding/data presentation (just a step from excel monkey) you can learn tableau/spotfire
I have pharmacy degree and work in advanced analytics/data science team in R&D division of big pharma corporate

you can ask more if you need, should be available to respond for next 1-2 hours or so

>>11029919
I'm a physicist

>>11030207
kys.
the only thing you can "automate" safely is unit tests

>>11032983
Java Spring masterrace here, fluent in html css javascript too but react is for kikebook cucks.

>>11032983
>180k/year
what the fuck. when did you get your job? what year? how much exp. do you have?

t. no college degree webdev making £30k

>>11034013

you are trash. Don't fight them. Join.

>>11034015

5 years ago I didn't know anything.

>>11033325
how's the weather in bangalore my friend

>>11029919
>Automates your production lines
hehe, nothing personal kiddos

Best language to learn first? 'Currently a mechanical engineer whose learning python'

What language should I learn being an EE with 1 year of plc experience? More rslogix and Siemens?

>>11032983
where did you get the job? im studying for web dev but physical jobs at my country pay 500 usd per month

t. argie fag. send help

>>11030485
>>11030125
>>11030105
> What is the semantic gap
> What is ai

>>11029961

Old shit, not as bad as Java though. C# is OK if you want to get into Unity as well. Not as much demand as some other stuff though. Everything is some fucking variation of Javascript now, & especially with WebAssembly coming up, you can code for the browser in other languages like C, C++ or god-tier Rust. Learn Node.js & React properly along with the above, and a better language that transpiles to ES5 Javascript (Typescript is the best probably), and make 100 to 150k per year easy (like I do).

>>11030105

I can replace nearly any wagie with a bash script and a robot arm though. It's not the 90s anymore, crazy good libraries make so much possible now.

>mfw they automate programming

IT cucks on suicide watch