/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>10906280
Yes, Monero is going to moon while your shitcoin will go down the drain. good luck pajeet.

>>10906368
>wait 10 minutes after a thread is posted then post a sage reply jab with no info other than shilling your own coin

Volume (24h)
$4,568 USD

>>10906486
>basing a coin's value on its volume in a bear market

>>10906280
>thinking that a very poorly executed scam will succeed

Dero vs lamden
2 biz scamcoins, no volume. Only one can win.

>>10906545
>2018
>still posting Wojaks

Reddit pls leave

>>10906569
Fuck off, newfag.
>Look at me, le pro greentexter xD

>>10906280
(unironically) based and redpilled op. Did anyone see that huge green dildo from a few days ago? Some guy bought like 5000 DERO at 7k sats.

>>10906654

Oh wow real mature Monero fags. Don't you have anything better to do than make fun of something that is technologically superior to your coin?

>>10906562
>virgin ICO which launched during the mania phase
>vs
>chad grassroots project with extremely talented and passionate developers

Really activates my almonds

bump

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>single anon dev controlling literally all the 10% of the unlocked premine
>ran as closed source for 4 months, with only the binaries being released by him each week (NOBODY will be ever able to check what those binaries did). Brainlet derofags don't see this as a complete and unforgivable tragedy.
>after those 4 months lying about ASIC resistance, the single anon dev decided unilaterally to remain in the old CryptoNight algorithm, as like Sumokoin and Electroneum did, completely ignoring the community. Now, just one pool literally controls almost 100% of the network, which is mined by only few CN ASIC owners, and the anon dev refused to change the emission curve typical to CrytpoNote coins, where most of the block rewards are issued in the first months of the mining. The coin distribution is now completely fucked up, completely defeating the original purpose of decentralization. Brainlet Derofags also don't see this as a tragedy too.
>the anon dev can't handle his community managers, can't speak english properly, and can't even decide the country for his foundation.

It will be a huge success.

>>10906665
Omg a whale just spent 1.5k. It's a sign.

Legitimately feel bad for anyone who thought this would go anywhere. Tried to warn them but they wouldn't listen. Some people just can't be helped I guess.

>>10909022
This has literally become copypasta tier at this point, anon. The only part about your copypasta that is even remotely true is the premine. Everything else is just overblown conjecture.

>>10906280
It has no volume and only available on 2 pajeet exchanges
Hard pass

>>10909174
>basing a project's worth on its volume

Never going to make it

>>10909164
They are just facts. Literally nothing is a lie. Anyone can check and confirm all those points reading the bitcointalk entire announcement, searching in discord and checking the github. There's no way to hide this, stop trying to justify, it's ridiculous.

>>10909309
>single anon dev controlling literally all the 10% of the unlocked premine

This is mostly true. The premine was originally locked, but with the move over to Atlantis, it had to be unlocked due to not knowing the rate of block creation. The argument used against seeing whether premine has been spent or not is "you can't check a wallet's balance in Dero if it is private"; however, you can check what a balance was at a current timestamp. Back when Dero was on the decline at about 90 cents, the premine was still 100% intact. If the devs didn't dump their entire premine when it was worth $4, why in the living hell would they dump it now that it's worth 30 cents? At $4, they could have slowly cashed out and easily made $2-3 million, but they didn't. Instead, they haven't cashed it out and are still working on the technology.

>ran as closed source for 4 months

The accurate figure is 2 months, but you can keep overinflating it if you want since it takes a lot of worth to prove it to you.

>Brainlet derofags don't see this as a complete and unforgivable tragedy.

Yes, because when you're testing new technology, it's a great idea to immediately share the inner working of that technology! Wow!

>after those 4 months lying about ASIC resistance

I am so sick and tired of you faggots spamming this crap over and over again. The only reason you keep getting away with it is because there is no easy-to-read copypasta to counter it yet. Even when explained fully, you GPU miner fags STILL don't accept the answer and FUD it anyway.

Newsflash kiddo: GPU mining is DEAD.

ASICs and other future mining techniques are the future, and there's NOTHING you GPU purists can do about it.

Moving on...

>the anon dev can't handle his community managers

Even since Serena left, there has been no new Community Manager. The DCAB is in an advisory role and nothing more.

>can't speak english properly

He can speak English just fine. Just because he doesn't fluff his words like a telemarketing faggot doesn't mean he doesn't understand the language.

>and can't even decide the country for his foundation

You do realize Ethereum took 8 whole months to finalize their Foundation, right? Dero is on month #2 right now.

>>10909587
>the absolute state of dero bagholders

>>10909751

>>10909751
>no rebuttal to argument
>just name-call

Every. Single. Time.

>>10909579
About the premine, the dev could move any amount to anywhere, and nobody will notice. You just can't prove RIGHT NOW that all the coins are still there.

>The accurate figure is 2 months, but you can keep overinflating it if you want since it takes a lot of worth to prove it to you.
It absolutely doesn't matter. He released lots of different binaries without any code. This is an unforgivable tragedy in crypto.

>Yes, because when you're testing new technology, it's a great idea to immediately share the inner working of that technology! Wow!
Never heard about "testnet"? That's the purpose of it. He could have commited all the code in git for people to compile and run in the testnet, but he chose to implement it in mainnet BEFORE even testing properly (and not even released the code at the moment). He even implemented bulletproofs before the external audits were finished. This is a sign of incompetence and total carelessness about security. A complete joke.

>I am so sick and tired of you faggots spamming this crap over and over again. The only reason you keep getting away with it is because there is no easy-to-read copypasta to counter it yet. Even when explained fully, you GPU miner fags STILL don't accept the answer and FUD it anyway.
Newsflash kiddo: GPU mining is DEAD.
ASICs and other future mining techniques are the future, and there's NOTHING you GPU purists can do about it.
Moving on...
KEK
Better let few CN ASIC miners to get all the blocks, completely defeating the decentralization purpose (which the dev promised to follow) in a single pool controlling almost 100% of the network, right?
And no, GPU mining isn't dead. Inform yourself better. Remaining with the old CN PoW algo at this point of the emission curve was the dumbest decision ever.

>Even since Serena left, there has been no new Community Manager. The DCAB is in an advisory role and nothing more.
As I said, can't handle it, so he didn't even hired anyone more.

>>10906686
Dero had an ico?

>>10909876
>About the premine, the dev could move any amount to anywhere, and nobody will notice. You just can't prove RIGHT NOW that all the coins are still there.

Yeah, that's the nature of a private blockchain. You can go ask the dev to provide a current viewkey if you're so paranoid.

>b-b-but he can spend whenever he wants!

And guess what? Satoshi could dump his entire BTC wallet right now and bring BTC to sub $1,000! Will he do it? I seriously doubt it.

>It absolutely doesn't matter.
>providing valid facts doesn't matter

>He released lots of different binaries without any code. This is an unforgivable tragedy in crypto.
Unforgivable to the 1% of people who give a crap. Monero had hidden mining on its network for well over a year, and you don't see /biz/ up in arms about that, do you?

>He even implemented bulletproofs before the external audits were finished. This is a sign of incompetence and total carelessness about security. A complete joke.

And yet, by some miracle, there has not been one single hiccup on the Dero network ever since the rewrite to Golang. Dero has fended off multiple 80%+ hash rate attacks no problem. Maybe when you're a competent dev that knows what he's doing, he doesn't need to treat his creation with baby gloves, hmm?

>Better let few CN ASIC miners to get all the blocks, completely defeating the decentralization purpose (which the dev promised to follow) in a single pool controlling almost 100% of the network, right?

Then start your own pool, bring your own ASIC farm, and take a piece of the pie for yourself! Oh wait, you won't do that since you hate ASICs and would rather GPU mine your little heart out.

>And no, GPU mining isn't dead.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>As I said, can't handle it, so he didn't even hired anyone more.
Because what the hell is the point of a Community Manager if she's not going to do anything? She was being paid $1,500 per month to advertise, and she sat around and did basically nothing.

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>>10910082
LMAO
You compare the incompetent captain dev to Satoshi.
You trust the 10% premine with him.
You don't care if he implements non audited cryptography.
You don't care about how he ran the project without the source, only binaries, for so long.
You don't care if he can't accomplish anything before the promised deadlines.
You don't care about CN ASIC mining centralization in just one pool with so few miners fucking up with the distribution.
You don't care if few remaining owners of CN ASIC miners (who also must be mining Sumo and Electroneum) will have the biggest bags of this.
You don't care about a shitty project execution after all.
There's no salvation for you. Sorry.
What a shitty refuting. I'm done. Enjoy your bags, brainlet.

>>10910318
Bump for the truth.

>>10910318
>You compare the incompetent captain dev to Satoshi.

You know, just because you can put words in sentences doesn't mean it's true. Do you even know what the word "incompetent" means? Are you even aware of what Captain has done technology-wise? You can call him a scammer, a pajeet, bad at socializing, bad at marketing, and literally whatever else that pee-sized brain of yours can think of, but literally the only thing you CANNOT call him is incompetent since he literally rewrote an entire protocol into Golang then created a BlockDAG completely from scratch that has never been done before in the entire history of cryptography

But hey, yeah, he's just some stupid incompetent pajeet dev who has no idea how to program. RIIIIIIGHT.

>You trust the 10% premine with him.

He hasn't dumped the premine in the 9 months he has had it so far. The first part of the premine becomes available for him to use per his own statement in December 2018. I'm sure once he starts using the premine in December, you fags will flood the board with "TOLD YOU SO HE'S DUMPING THE PREMINE"

>You don't care if he implements non audited cryptography.

https://twitter.com/DeroProject/status/1020189406953713665

Cryptographers have been trying to review it. It's too complicated for the average cryptographer to understand. Literally every single time we ask you faggots to prove Dero wrong, you give up and just spam FUD.

EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

>You don't care about how he ran the project without the source, only binaries, for so long.

No, I don't. Even the most dire-hard of FUDDERS of Dero don't care. You are literally the only faggot who keeps bringing it up over and over again as if this is something new in crypto that has never happened before.

>You don't care if he can't accomplish anything before the promised deadlines.

Dero Atlantis wasn't even supposed to come out until March 2019 and he delivered it in May 2018. I honestly can't even begin to fathom how retarded this statement of yours is.

>You don't care about CN ASIC mining centralization in just one pool with so few miners fucking up with the distribution.

No, I don't. GPU mining is dead and has been dead for months now. ASICs and other more efficient technologies are coming out whether you want to throw a fit about it or not.

>You don't care if few remaining owners of CN ASIC miners (who also must be mining Sumo and Electroneum) will have the biggest bags of this.

News flash: Early adopters ALWAYS get the most out of this. Whine whine whine is all you faggot anti-ASICs fags do all day long.

>You don't care about a shitty project execution after all.

What project execution? Marketing isn't even starting until January 2019. Did you even read the roadmap? How the hell can they fail with project execution WHEN THEY HAVEN'T EVEN STARTED YET YOU ABSOLUTE MORON?

>>10911078
>>10911084
Thanks for proving that you're a brainlet.

>>10911215
>don't rebut a single statement
>Thanks for proving that you're a brainlet. :^)