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I think October 10th makes sense.

autist here

when the global stock market leaves starts on reaches 5 wave(elliot-wave) and it will starts its great great great depression run(will last for what feels like ages, ofc some dead cat bounces)

crypto will start climbing. older people get old. younger people get older

>>10823385
Yield curve is flattening ever so slowly, IMO will invert in 6-12 mo, after inversion it is customary to see a recession in 6-12 mo, so I think a recession comes in 1-2 y with an additional buffer year because market timing is imperfect. Years of quantitative easing will become quanitative tightening. Puffed up values across the board can be expected to drop the usual 30%. This will affect the total market. Developed markets see a run of the mill contraction, emerging markets get hit harder, the severity will parallel that of 2008 for them, but in developed markets it is not nearly as severe. I hope you have cash ready.

>>10823592
Wow an intelligent post really makes me think

Everything written here is on point. Its exactly how i read the situation as well

>>10823385
2019
As above so below

>>10823565
english please

>>10823853
correlation does not imply causation.

>>10823385
If there is any sell-off to be made is when the boomer population collapses from old age and the property gets sold by millenials who inherited it.

Be prepared for an oversupply.

>>10823904
>boomers die off
>real estate becomes dirt cheap
>we become the new boomers with more houses than people to fill them

I'd love that. I don't care about real estate never being so valuable again i just want a piece of land to call my own.

>>10823385
Howdy Steve
I have just checked my portfolio and it really brings the bacon !! 287% profit in 20 years that is. Good times eh.
Gone fishin'

>>10823853
>that y axis scale + unit of measure
Neat tho. One of those relationships that touches the whole idea that we're a propagation of the same input data set and governing equations

>>10823904
Chinaman funds is ready. Be prepared for Vancouver 2.0

>>10823592
Its probably closer. Id say 2018 midterms may be the beginning.

how will crypto and gold be affected?

>>10823904
why sell the property.....rent an leaverage it. do u even biz?

>>10823989
Gold will moon (((in theory))) and crypto will die because everyone is going to pull their money since they need it. Most coins are pets.com

>>10823853

fuck you, don't post voodoo shit please.

>>>/x/

>MSM will shill stocks to buy for the next 2 months well into October. The FED starts unloading their balance sheets big time at the end of October. Markets will start diving sometime between then into December. We begin 2019 going into Recession. This will cause the debt bubble to pop as people lose homes, jobs and savings. The country is a mess and MSM will blame Trump for the rest of his presidency leading into 2020 elections. The people who voted for Trump into office will lose confidence in him. The elite will prop up a democratic socialist candidate as the new savior for the country. Trump loses 2020 election. America slowly turns socialist.
>Bitcoin & crypto goes on historic bullrun around 10/18 as indicated in pic

>>10824349

>>10824364

Fuck the BTC bullrun that will never happen, this will be the golden once in a lifetime oppurtunity to become filthy rich, provided you have the cash (for the slow, short heavily at the top and go long at the bottom).

End of February is when it will start.

>>10823853
>As above so below
That's one of my favorite sayings

>>10824377
>Short the top
Terrible idea. But longing the bottom is excellent.

>>10824413
Why would that be bad? Easy earnings.

>>10824053
Think the millenials give a shit?

They’ll just sell it off for a cramped living space near to starbucks and the local masjeed

bull market until trump is out of office

>>10824349
where do we go when america becomes even more of a commie shithole?

>>10823385
I don't know how long it will take, but seriously if you are buying SP500 right now you are retarded.

Simmed returns are only 3.5% real.

https://www.philosophicaleconomics.com/2018/01/future-u-s-equity-returns-a-best-case-upper-limit/

ah yes another retard that only looks at the recovery from the last 2 crashes

>>10824608
Canada?
Wealthier, smarter people will probably go to SEA

>>10824650
canada is a major commie shithole right now and I can only assume it will get worse
I want somewhere that won't tax my gains and leave me alone

>>10824660
I was kind of joking because people used to say they'd go to Canada if Obamacare passes and stuff like that.
Authorities in SEA might not be smart enough to get at your gains. Find some way of cashing out crypto without a bank account and you might be golden.

>>10823385
Not until corporate debt pops

We golden bull for at least the next 6 years until Trump hits term limit

>>10823904
For every 1 boomer that dies there are 300 2nd generation immigrants entering the market, with half the Mexican ones already pregnant.

This affects both housing and jobs. We've been sold out.

>>10824832
Obviously.
But what do we do about this? Is there a way to profit from this if we're not rich? The only way I can think about justifying it right now is to work hard and make money then use these immigrants as third world fuck meat. Guys that go to SEA do their thing while we have the meat delivered to our door because we're well off relatively.
Is this a plausible thing or is there silver lining to this cloud like not even being able to treat the new "countrymen" as sex slaves?

>>10824364
Thank you for posting the very pic I spam here. October 31st / November 1st will be fucking deadly, right before the mid term elections to deliberately stir shit up in an attempt to depose Trump

It only goes up broo.

>>10824878
You better be a real fucking smart guy because you're competing against hoards of also hard-working Asians, many of them real smart themselves. Jobs are leaving, no new houses are being built, and everything is getting more expensive. "Work hard and make money" may have worked for your father and his father but it won't work for you. You need to be fucking smart. Corporate profits are always climbing while wages for the masses have stayed the same. That's about all the insight a blue collar guy like myself can provide.

>>10824992
Thank you for sharing it. Can you explain what the numbers are actually. Basis points? Percentage? $USD (Billions)?

>>10825104

What happened in the 70s was that the bretton-woods system was abolished

That opened the pandora

>>10825135
I think that was when USD was no longer backed by Gold.

>>10825150

>>10825126

It’s a measure of how much United States Treasuries and Mortgage Backed Securities get sold in billions of USD. When MBS are sold, that’s when shit really sags

>>10823565
>for sure people are going to waste their money on useless internet tokens with no real value backed by anything other than speculation during a recession my man 100%

>>10824691

At sine point, we're going to come full circle and have global white flight into china

>>10823385
What should I invest in assuming a collapse is imminent?

>>10825135
>>10825167

These but maybe most importantly the Immigration Act of 1965 is how we got here.

>>10825150

Its frightening to see how much the dollar hast lost of his former value...the fed is pure evil

For the next crash i go all in crypto, silver and gold...wish me luck guys i will need it

>>10824311
sure, most all shitcoins will die, but bitcoin was literally created as a currency to resist inflation and fractional reserve lending--the text Satoshi imprinted on the genesis block shows that this was very much on his mind

There's a very strong case to be made that, much like gold, people will flock to bitcoin and other proven cryptocurrencies in the wake of faltering economies and hemorrhaging national currencies---just look at what's happening in Venezuela

>>10823385
credit leads equities
watch credit spreads tighten in response to fed raising interest rates in the following 1-2 years
crash starts then

God save us from this next financial crisis because only the lord knows how bad things truly can get.

>>10826058
global trade is going to all but completely stop, then the wars will begin

>>10824324
Financial astrology is not voodoo it’s Jew magic

Look into the Rothschild cycle if you don’t believe me

>>10824617
>Simmed returns are only 3.5% real.
Slow
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>>10824650
>Canada
Oh boy... I hope you are not productive anon, they will bleed you dry over there.

>>10826058

Feels bad man. People of all stripes are ready to reeeeeee race war now when the shits at all time high.

>>10823385
I am up 50% fom 24 months ago.
Wtf are you niqqers talking about !!!???

>>10824388
kek has spoken

>>10825221
tvix stock

>>10823385
Global fiat collapse incoming.

>>10825185
I believe a lot of people will use crypto as a hedge against devaluing of their currency. You can just look at venezuela and turkey as an example.

Bubbles will always go higher and last longer than you think. This is why when you want to short sell a bubble, you have to average in over several months. If you are interested in shorting this bubble, I would recommend buying sqqq, but do not start buying for another 5 months. Begin buying at the beginning of Feb and buy in chunks.

-a jew who knows what he's talking about

>>10823385
The selling off is already going on. Dumb new money is buying properties at near 3 times their original values. Predatory loans are starting to take consequential effect. I feel like it'll happen in 2020 just because we want to have the new decade start off with a shitshow, but if it'll happen any sooner it's been due.

>>10823592
I agree but worry there are underlying elements that would lead to depression rather than recession.

>>10823385
people say TA doesn't work but its pretty dank how that double top lined up perfectly with the housing bubble bursting in 07

>>10827346
it will not be a depression. the bubble will deflate. the united states will be relatively insulated

unironically though its very near
my mum and brother (we're from a kinda broke family that knows nothing about this shit) have been talking to a financial advisor who is promising 25% returns yoy and have a 8 year track record for it or something

two other people at my place of work (exxonmobil) have separately said they can achieve the same thing 25-30% yoy just from mutual funds

if every pleb thinks they can just invest and get free 25% per year and say "after 5 years of it ill have x!" then we're heading for a big ol dump.

>>10824349
Bernie Madoff will be the president of Union of Socialist American States by 2020

>>10823385
if current trends continue then someone born in the US in 2118 will owe 20 million dollars at birth

there is going to be some sort of a reset. meaningful inflation has not happened in the last 10 years so it has to be something else. that is pretty scary.

>>10824530
Because you don't when is the top, it could be tomorrow or 5 years, unless you have insider info. Whereas with the bottom, you can deduct it by looking for support lines.

>>10825185

What else would they put their money in? Everything is going to crash including your worthless FIAT.

>>10823565
>older people get old. younger people get older
genius insight

>>10827976
> your worthless FIAT
how about gold?