/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>10772246
kys

its ok, you will be replaced by ai within 50 years anyways regardless if you were a genius so despair even further

So with all the burgers I’ve been eating lately(gladly of course) I decided today to try an old favorite, the McDonalds Big Mac. I’ll admit, this used to be my favorite meal on earth, but since it’s been years since I’ve eaten anything at McDonalds that wasn’t on their Value Menu, I was really looking forward to having a Big Mac.

As always, the service was fast, the burger was delivered and the fries were crispy for the first 10 minutes. Overall the Big Mac is still one of my favorite “Fast Food Burgers” because of the secret sauce and because it’s so different. We all know that the you don’t eat a Big Mac for the meat and after eating a lot of really good, meaty burgers over the last few months, it was the sauce that helped me enjoy this meal.

My Big Mac rating is simple: the secret sauce is tangy, sweet and makes for a nice burger.It’s one of my favorite fast food burgers but only because of the unique and secret sauce.

I'm identical OP. The solution that somewhat works for me were always OTC stimulants and trying to excel at my work - the immediate tasks that I was doing. Also learning for things that I could implement in my workplace after a bit of negotiating.

Londonfrog?

>>10772394

Yes, it's me.

>>10772375
Also, you seem to think that your life has some grand goal to be fulfilled. This doesn't have to be the case at all. Your a standard stock human being.

>>10772246
Number 2 and 5 are me, except I'm low IQ.

>>10772246
What do you do for work?

>>10772246
>>>/fit/47326396
since you already realize your problem start working on it instead of ranting here.

>>10772246
life is absurd anyways, no real meaning. do you really want to be ripped and have lots of money, or do you feel like you have to want those things? maybe you just want to be a fly on the wall, living a simple life, enjoying the creature comforts (possibly being a wageslave until you retire one day maybe?). i would be content with working 9-5 and getting minimum 3 weeks vacation and nice benefits. living in a smallish house

this is exactly me except i'm 30.
I have a good job making around 90k GBP per year at a top company.
Don't want to buy a house where I live since I'd be trapped with mortgage.
Probably going to quit my job and emigrate to south east asia before too long and try to make it as an entrepreneur (hopefully the pressure of needing to make money will make me successful)

Some people just aren't great at being their own boss but of course it's just a behaviour that can be learned.

>>10772246
Honestly it's time to take the ultimate redpill. Either go to the military, do something incredibly risky or an hero. You are 27 and still stuck in the same never ending loop of forcing yourself to do something you don't want to do. Find a place to volunteer at or just fucking something where you can travel. As long as you remain where you are you will be stuck in hell forever.

I used to be like you, OP. Now I'm working as a farm-hand, eating the food we grow and making sure the farm runs right. Maybe something similar can work for you. Good luck. Take the organic farming pill

>>10772673
Same as OP, and if I ever had the opportunity to enlist in a proper army, I'd do so in a heartbeat. For the learning of discipline alone.

Invest in deep brain chan

It's pretty scary how well I can relate to OP.

Just turned 25, but fuck me does time fly by.

Take Adderall until heart attack or go into the military

>>10772246
Holy fuck OP. Turning 27 in a month. Are you me? Especially point 2 is exactly the same. I was actually doing all that when I was 24, now I am exactly point 2. Wtf happened to us?

>>10772755
Check out focusmate.com. You book a webcam session with another user, at the start of the session you state your goals for the hour and they do the same, then at the end you talk about how it went. It's literally turning my life around and I've only been using it a couple weeks. It really makes me work. I still get distracted a bit, but it's a huge improvement. At the very least it makes me get out of bed (and I've been pretty depressed and sometimes spend all day in bed) because I don't want to let the other person down by not showing up for our appointment. I shilled it here before but am not associated with it (it's free anyway). Found a thread by another anon who used it after I shilled it and said it really helped him.

Do you jack off to porn? If so it's time to close that chapter

>>10772975
Wtf this sounds weird?

>>10772975
I just checked it out idk anon...maybe

>>10773106
I was reluctant too at first because I like my privacy, but fuck it, it works.

Think about this way: all of us will be dead early into the ai singularity while 99% of those kids will probably starve to death from not having jobs or have to fight a socialist revolution against Boston Dynamics' Robots

>>10773152
But then you sit there in front of your laptop for 50 minutes with the webcam on? So basically you can see eachother all the time? Random peeps hmm idk

>tfw 25
>still in good shape
>still have energetic youth about me

When does it turn to shit anons? Will it be gradual or sudden?

>>10772246
just light up a join and chill bro
lmao

>>10773260

sudden. I am soon to be 27. Idk whether it's crypto or alcohol for me but holy shit have I aged in 2 years. I have a fuckton of grey hair now, I look tired af, I feel tired etc.

I see pictures (even nudes I send to my gf at the time) of me 2-3 years ago and I just see a completely different person.

>>10772246
30YO here. You are correct, life is over.
The difference from even 27 is horrifying.
Its instructive to look at the difference between a 27 or 28 yo athlete at the peak of their powers, to one at 32 who is basically dead.
Its the same in life.
Even KMS feels pointless.

>>10773260
Gradual, but the realization will be sudden. Eat healthy and exercise.

>>10773339
31 here.

I died at age 30. Getting married next year which is probably permadeath. Time to start living through my children.

Im all in with crypto, will kill myself if it doesnt pan out within 5 years. My family can live off my life insurance at least.

>>10772246
join the military, they will shape you up

>>10773368
Getting married is good though. As long as you have kids you can kill yourself with satisfaction.
I spent my 20s fucking random low quality sluts and now that Im balding and poor only the fattest or most retarded (it's either/or) ones want to settle down.

>>10773413
>kill yourself--- with satisfaction

yknow I've never thought of that.

>>10772246
28 y/o boomer here . Start taking Lion's mane and Bacopa Synapsa. They are nootropics that protect neurons in your brain and help you grow new ones. I'm 6 weeks in taking both and have massive improvements. I can learn things better now than I could at 18 (I was a shit head then tho), no jokes. My motivation to learn things is at ATH. Some of us are in our late 20s and feeling optimistic.

>>10773430
Forgot to mention they can take 4-8 weeks to kick in. I felt it at like 2 weeks tho.

Watch this video for more info

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XidqM2i8Js

>>10772246
You sound like a great candidate to end your own life. We all live like gods compared to how people lived just a couple centuries ago. Do some acid or lsd and get new perspective.

>>10772246
Your entire post boils down to this:

I am a whiney, lazy cunt with no backbone.

Go kick your father in the balls for impregnating your mother with his weakest sperm.

>>10773430
About to turn 30, maybe as optimistic as I've ever been. For males at least, 30s may be the ATH of existence both mentally and physically.

20s and teens while full of physical advantages are rife with immaturity and idiocy. People are fucking terrible in their teens and 20s. A lot of the shit starts to go away into 30s. Of course most moron zoomers see the opposite on here.

>>10773518
You'll see

You cannot better yourself if you have no confidence in yourself. It simply won't work. If you don't love yourself, no one else will have reason to. You could master everything under the sun and you'd still be unhappy.

Forget about reading or programming for a little while. Befriend your inner self. You'd be surprised how much you can empathize with its pain in ways that no one else could. All that which encompasses you is as capable of working for you as it is capable or warring with itself. If you can be alone, happy, and content with yourself and thoughts while doing absolutely nothing else, you'll have truly made it. Ascend to the Chad mindset.

Love yourself, love others, love this place. There is only so much time.

>>10772246
>>10772559
>>10772698
>>10772755

There are entire books being written about what you described. This is endemic to our entire generation. Your symptoms aren't unique to you. A shit load of millennials are leaving high school and doing buttfuck nothing for the next decade only to end up depressed and suicidal before 30. Millenials, on average, have a completely different perspective on life and what they consider important compared to the last generation.

Fold the laundry? Fuck it, leave the clothes in the basket until I need them.
Go back to school? Why would I? The whole system's corrupt and I don't want to be a corporate drone for the next 45 years.
Get a girlfriend? Fuck women, they're all cunts. If I wait long enough the right one will come to me despite the fact I never socialize outside of my Discord group.

The biggest problem is the complete lack of discipline. Discipline for the sake of ones-self builds motivation and grit. Discipline on the micro level (doing dishes, brushing your teeth, drinking water instead of a cola) builds discipline in the macro level (looking for a better job, working out, looking for gf, learning a skill, etc). The problem is that people are INCREDIBLY stress averse these days and anything worth working for requires you to leave your comfort zone. You have to introduce yourself to discomfort to achieve anything worthwhile and nobody is willing to do that.

>>10773617
What will I see?

>>10773738
You'll see your youthful fountains of cum turn into pathetic dribbles

>>10773697
Which is very ironic because I have the feeling that people are way more stressed nowadays than before. So maybe the fact that people are so stress averse these days is that they are already fucking stressed to begin with.

>>10773769
Nonsense. Kids are neurotic, but not stressed. They've never had to truly sacrifice, or suffer, or put effort into bettering themselves, when things like "everyone gets a trophy" exists. I see it, every day - kids enter the world world, and are confronted by a reality much different than the cuccoon they've been in, up until then. "What, I don't get an hour to unwind after 15 minutes of concentrated effort? I have to work *all day*?!? What, I can't complain to my boss like i do my mommy, because that other guy is being mean to me? What, I don't get all of the rewards for minimal effort? Why does HE get to be CEO, I'm a special snowflake, my mommy says so."
Parents and schools are raising kids who are useless in the real world, they have been taught nothing useful, they can't cope with small amounts of pressure or crisis, and they can't be counted on to deliver. They just want to drift around larping at working, and expect top wages for it. I've talked with people who manage these kids, and they're afraid to give them more responsibility, because they usually quit when they get more. Or they spend more time trying to find issues to complain about, like not enough trans people in the office, than working, they all think they're the next social media superstar justice warrior. I've seen women crying in break rooms, and later found out it's because they had a tantrum because their boss was upset they did a week's worth of work wrong, turned it in late, and didn't get a gold star.
Try working with these entitled, coddled shitheads, who expect everything for minimal effort. Go ahead. You'll loathe them like everyone else who has to work with them.
Note: Some of them are hard workers, and do fine, but not nearly enough of them. I'd peg it at 15-25% in the offices I've been in.

>>10773697
What books? I'd like to know what your talking about.

>>10773883
I understand your ranting and I agree on the most part but wouldn't you say that allll those things you summed up can actually lead to personality disorders such as becoming neutotic, add, adhd etc which will lead to severe stress?

You sum up all the symptoms of kids nowadays how fucked up they basically are and you don't think that this leads to severe stress or at least mental disorders.

Students are dropping out of school at exponential growing rates because of mental disorders. Burnouts are increasing rampandly. I am not saying that has to be a consequence of increased stress (because I haven't read a study about this yet, I'll do that tomorrow) but I see a connection.

They say that youth is wasted on the young, and they are right. You don't realize that time and health are the most valuable assets you have until you begin to lose both in your later twenties. I'm turning 27 in under a month and I can say that the past decade of my life has been spent drinking and browsing the internet. I'm not proud of that. I'm out of shape, eat fast food every single day, haven't had sex in years and half-ass anything that is probably worthwhile. I've lost most of my friends and lost all my hobbies. Everything I used to find entertaining or meaningful revealed itself later on as escapism and laziness. The problem is when you go to fix it you realize as much as you know this wont work anymore, its the only thing holding you up. I don't have an answer anon, just a shoulder to cry on.

>>10772246
Life is not a zero-sum game

>>10774081
It mostly is.

>>10772246
>be me
>18 yo
>addicted to biz
>like 7-10 hours a day on biz level of addicted
>see these threads
>motivation.jpg
>get off my ass and start programming again for like 2-5 hours
>repeat

honestly. these threads are probably the best thing. if it wasnt for le 4chins i would be spending my time playing fortnite instead anyway

>>10774036
I have screenshoted this and saved it as a reason to never come back to this site.

Best of luck, have a good one.

>>10772246
Damn I can relate to all of this.

>>10774112
Whatever you do brings new opportunities, this is true even if you fail at something. You can only lose at life if you declare yourself a loser.

>>10774189
You too brother.

success is a mixture of many elements, iq is only one of those, 4chan is a fucking toxic shitheap that really has never done ME any good, maybe try stopping 4chan, maybe try small incremental steps towards your larger goals. there is lots of reading material online. download something and start reading it. brothers karamazov is a really good book as far as fiction goes, i read like 30 pages of it and its great and then i dont read any more for like 3 weeks and probably watch reruns of family guy or some dumb shit.

that's a buy signal, everyone of you faggots are depressed because bitcoin isn't mooning, BUY GUYS, SELL YOUR PC AND FUCKING BUY BITCOIN, IT'S HAPPENING

>>10772246
Miss all the shots you dont take faggot, stop looking for sympathy here

>>10774036
I'm joining the 27 club in a few days. My life has been a mess. My resume is garbage, I haven't had a real job since high school, the school that I didn't even finish. I managed to start uni, but haven't made much progress and are going to be old if I do graduate. Well you are going to be 30 anyway some day, with degree or not.

I'm losing my health and struggling to get it back. It is not easy. I hate writing words, for strangers that judge me and never understand. This small box for words is not enough to describe life.

All I really wanted to say, is that no matter what, I don't want to lose my will to never give up, no matter the age or obstacles, it feels good to still have your will with you, without it there is nothing.

Just realized how pointless it feels like to describe life in this manner. Poems and metaphors would be more fitting, yet who would understand them?

The struggle against life is beautiful, bare your fangs at it and don't go without a fight, for those who die fighting, death may take them, but in their hearts they never die.

>>10772246
I wouldn't be so sure about that. A good amount are graduating with soul crushing debt and not great ways to pay it. Many are slaves. Carve your own path OP. Don't be a cuck. Be fearless. Take risk.

>>10772246
>I am 27 and unironically jealous of young people.
lol what a waste of time.
>I can't make myself work on anything productive in my large amounts of free time.
then don't. you don't have to do any of that shit
>Coffee ruins my sleep and makes me weak in the gym. I eat lots of junk food every day.
you realize it takes effort to stuff your face with coffee and junk. just use your lack of motivation to your advantage.
>I feel like I have to read shitloads of boring books or else I am a pleb.
you don't have to read a shitload of books. it's not necessary. and it's a waste of time to think in terms of pleb or patrician
>Even the slightest bit of structure in my life makes me feel like I'm in a straitjacket and cucked to the core.
lmfao you are so fucked in the head bro

>>10775223
>hi, my name id Brad and i'm 19 years old
talk to me when life hits you back at your face, pretty `this shit ins't gonna happen to me` boy

>>10772246

>>10772272
don't listen to this faggot.

A LOT of people are like this. And I wouldn't be surprised 50% of this board is like that.

That's why we trade crypto. It's easy and requires barely any effort.

Honestly, you are stuck in RUT, a vicious feedback loop. And it really just takes pain.

Pain, the pain of motivating yourself and moving further. It's going to hurt, but you have to in order to improve yourself.

If you have the courage to do this, it gets easier every time.

Get going OP, Hurt yourself.

>>10773430
can confirm lion's mane, I've tried hundreds of supps and it's one of the few I feel consistent benefits that are (probably) above and beyond placebo with. I pour out the cap into a jar with a little near-boiling water in it and shake vigorously for 10 seconds, the heat and agitation purportedly help break down the fungal cell walls and release more of the active chemicals.

>>10772246
see
>>10775280

>>10773368
life insurance doesnt pay out for suicides

>>10772246
I don't remember posting this....

All jokes aside, I feel where you are coming from OP. I'm going through the exact same feels. The only thing that prevents me from ending it all is knowing someday it will all be over and I'll get to feel the sweet release of death.

>>10774036
literal 30 yo boomer here and this gets me right in the solar plexus. truest thing I've ever read on this site. Done a lot of introspecting lately and slowly coming to realize that I've utilized video games, alcohol, psychedelic drugs, junk food and shitty internet timewasters like 4chan like precision instruments to make sure I always have a comfortable distraction close at hand, because that way I never have to wake up and face reality, face having to concentrate and work diligently on things I want to see come to fruition in my life. And the longer I keep the juggling act of self-distraction up, the more of a trainwreck my life gets to be and the more aggressively I try to stay distracted and dissociated from it.

Crypto has really been the shit cherry on top of the fuck sundae, it presented the possibility of redeeming my entire lost 20s in a few fateful clicks so long as I clicked buy and sell on the right shitcoins at the right time. If I made fuck you money then I coud quit my job and spend my 30s fulltime recouping the lost potential of my 20s. Like a cheat code to rewind time, because everyone else in their 30s would be busy wagecucking so by the time 40 rolled around I'd be back on even footing with them in terms of having done something useful or interesting with my life. Of course it was an illusion and I'm down 90% from ATH and 30% from initial. It turned out to be just another self-sabotage strategy in the end. Just another distraction from the matter at hand, which is having to face the sucking disappointment of my misspent 20s and find something to salvage from it.

Who knows, maybe the golden bull starts tomorrow and I'll make it and I actually will get to spend my 30s the way I want, doing something interesting and useful and amazing in exactly the way I didn't spend my 20s. I fucking doubt it though.

27 year old soon-to-be boomer here, and although I'm very successful, I've been struggling with this age range a lot. It seems the most painful thing missing is that dreamlike outlook on what the future might hold that I had in my teenage years to about 23 or 24. Things were really intense then. It's also difficult to realize that most of your old friendships fade away as others experience the same things, the same changes. To me it feels like a collective emotional isolation of people who grew up together, most of them suffering and toiling (or not) everyday hoping things will one day feel like they did before, or at least get better.

I've come to the conclusion that this stage of life (25-30) is a unique and difficult transition period unlike any of the previous ones. It's well known that men age like fine wine, and you can very well continue improving, but only if you take it by the reins forthrightly. Adopting a permanent negative attitude during this stage is death, because this is a critical stage in your life, perhaps the most critical. You have to make the decision on how the rest of your life will play out now, because this is likely the turning point. I write this as I am struggling with a very difficult health issue that will take the most willpower I've ever had to exert to overcome.

This is it, this is all you have, and it's time for you to make a decision on how the rest of your life will play out.

An old quote from Seneca has been on my mind a lot lately: "We become wiser by adversity; prosperity destroys our appreciation of the right."

>>10772246
Sounds like u need some Osho in ur life

>>10772246
Start smoking. It will replace all other habits

>>10772246
Wow it's another whiner complaining about his life, not enough of those on the internet

>>10775475
thnks for this

OP you are an insane looser please, for the fucking love of god, just end your live man it is not worth living. People without motivation are the sickness we have to get rid of. Society has no place for you please die ty.

hilarious how the 20 somethings are disgruntled/insecure. you fucks have no idea how much changes past 30 in your mind especially.

>>10775286
Could you recommend a good supplier? I'd like to get some.

>>10775475
thanks for this, I hoping some older boomers could shed some insight on their 25-30 years, i notice most don't even talk about it much

>>10775882
literally the guy in the video, stamets, his host defense brand. I literally live five minutes away from his shroom farm and the stinky sock / dogshit smell wafts over my house sometimes when the wind is right. I can get the shit at our hippie coop here for 1/3 cheaper than online.

I've tried a few other bulk brands and they taste like shit uncapped/shaken like I described. They might have had the same benefit but I couldn't be arsed to keep eating them. Host defense's just taste like popcorn, or of course you can just take them capped if you don't want to bother with the hot water act.

>>10772246
Mate just clean up your diet. Coffee ain’t so bad just stick to one a day or two if you really need it. Check your calorie intake vs your exercise routine and goals it’s pretty simple. That shit food is the problem.
Also young people will get old too, I know the feeling but you gotta age gracefully and stop fighting it. Take a look at those old rich boomers with their Botox. They look fucking retarded and are miserable anyway.

>>10774189
You'll come back

>>10774036
30 years old boomer here. it fucking sucks. i fucking bumped into a piece of furniture and broke a toe. ive never broken a bone in my body before and have never been clumsy. im taking a year off to travel starting in january. i need to take some time to think about what i even want out of life while im still somewhat active enough.

>>10775475
Get well bro

>>10773260
It happens suddenly. For me it was around the time I reached 28. Now its just a constant loop of no money to do something ->no time to improve myself to get more money ->depression about the situation I stuck in -> no money to do something about it

>>10775445
spot on fren

>>10772246
planned on killing myself at 27 when i was 21 because everything was boring and pointless. 27 was approaching and i did pretty much whatever the fuck i wanted because who gives a fuck. things got interesting life became less boring enough not to kill myself. don't know if this helps, but it worked for me.

I'm 25 reading this and thanking literal God that I joined the military at 24. I still have purpose, I still have my health, I still have friends. Thank you Army. You fucking suck sometimes, but you saved my life.

Tfw almost 26 and my life is better than ever. My childhood was a nightmare, abusive parents, permanent fear and not the slightest security. My teenage years were a nightmare too, crippling anxiety and depression (did I mention porn addiction). I turned my life around hard. Ran away from home at 17 and then slept at friends places, finished school and then just fucked my shit up. Moved to a new city where I knew nobody. Total cocoon mode with my gf (got lucky there). Gave up on all of my friends. Studied philosophy at university for 2 years for fun, but mostly stuck to my fav philosobros. Watched tons of movies of all kind. Thats what helped me most. My goal is to keep learning and trying stuff til I die. Contrary to popular belief, the opposite of depression isnt happiness, but curiosity.

Guess theres an advantage to troubled, shitty nightmarish pasts. Its really easy to improve. The worse your condition, the easier to feel improvements.

Never stop trying. Stop watching porn forever. Seriously. Find some of /your/ passions and follow them. All special snowflake jokes aside, everybody is unique and can do unique things. Dont ever compare yourself to others. Try building somekind of filter bubble for yourself (who ever said thats a bad thing. Dont watch gore and dont exposure yourself to mainstream media. Unironically switch to toothpastes without fluorid. Learn to meditate until you get an ego death experience. Buy link

>>10772246
The world will end this century anyway, so in the end it doesn't really matter.

Its not your age, but your life that sucks. Just turned 30 and things are better than ever

>>10772246
DEAR OP:

I suggest trying a supplement called L-theanine. It is an all natural supplement derived from green tea.

It has a calming effect, you take it while drinking coffee to counter the jittery effects. It helps focus and stability.

While taken by itself at night, it will calm you and let you sleep.

It's cheap, natural and you can buy it through I-Herb or nootropics depot, amazon.

If you would like to learn more, search nootropics, L-theanine

>>10772246
Can certainly relate anon, I'm 32 and pretty much have the same problems as you, minus the junk food - am on a ketogenic diet and workout 5-6x a week, in really good shape now and food expense is at all time low compared to when i used to order takeout and shit all the time.

But ya in regards to lacking motivation, and obsessing over "completion" (such as boring books as you said), and even the concept of self-limitations, I relate to all of that. One of the goddamn worst "completion" type habits I have is opening up like 200 browser tabs of various articles and youtube videos and shit and then obsessive-compulsively making myself read/watch every single one before I can move on to another project; not in one sitting of course but I'll leave the tabs open for as long as it takes (often adding extra ones here and there) and I'm aware that this is autistic but I can't force myself to stop.

Also wanting to work on a website for a friend (who will pay me) but I keep procrastinating, been like 2 weeks now that I've pushed it off... I don't see myself improving, maybe I'll see a therapist soon or something.

>>10772246
dude youre like a caveman worrying that he cant paint on walls like that one caveman dude,

this graph unironically shows the real future pretty clearly

>>10778784
FUCK, this one

>>10775838
the change in mindset is the worst part. good fucking god i hate being a boomer, about as much as I hate boomers.

>>10775475
Thanks bro

>>10772246
get a better job that makes you work harder

hard work will probably sort things out.

>>10778791
if they actually master true AI, the growth would be instant to out of the charts measures

Stop thinking about your age. That's the first problem. Age literally is just a number (it's not a meme). So your body will look older and maybe your brain is a lower slower. So fucking what? Doesn't mean you can't learn anything new, as long as you don't have some form of dementia. I see actual 40 and 50 year olds going back to college right now and it's never too late to learn something. Stop feeling sorry for yourself and LEARN. This is the literal fucking golden age for self study people, you can learn ANYTHING you want from the Internet or people from practically nothing now. Shit we have software like Anki that lets you basically learn anything and RETAIN it as if it's magic. Go out and learn something, anything. Put an alarm on your phone and force yourself to learn 1 new thing every day at the time you set. Just keep doing that for like 2 months and it becomes a real habit. That's all it takes.

>>10772246
Just wanted to ask OP, when you say
> learn more maths
what level of maths are you on right now? What exactly do you want to learn maths wise?

>>10773883
>>10773883
I agree. to some extent. I used to work 100hours weekend. i was given alot of responsibility.
and i loved it. but I got extremly ill and put in mental hospital cause of szhiofrenia. This was from stress(i dont do drugs)

The stress is insane. the competiton to be the best is also fucking insane with grades in school. where you get scored on everything.

I wasnt particlary bright but I worked like A gun was pointed at my head always. and it worked.

sadly now I live on welfare, and do nothing besides. trying to find people to fill out the company that my father build

THe world has NEVER been as fucking competetive as it is now, its fucking insane amounts of pressure to perform.

people break down.

clean your room, bucko.

>>10772246
tl;dr: your mind is sick
GO. TO. A. FUCKING. DOCTOR. kek

>>10772975
Got 3 hours of work done this morning. Normally would have spent it all fucking around on the internet. Got another 3 sessions coming up and booked more for the rest of the week. I fucking love this. Plus using Pluckeye for very strict website blocking (break now for lunch).

I unironically turned 33 this year abd you guys sound like complete wrecks. I am happier than i have ever been, fuck more roasties than i have ever have, i am now in the process of cashing out massive crypto gains i made over the past couple of years, planning for my world trip next year after I buy a house for myself and the wife when i will meet her. And what do you cucks cuck about in the meantime? What the actual fuck get your shit together. If you think it’s “too late” for anything you are a massive faggot

I feel all these feels
Sometimes when I'm driving home and I hit a road with no one on it I floor it in my car and see how fast I can try to go just to feel alive

>>10779745
>I feel all these feels
Sometimes when I'm driving home and I hit a road with no one on it I floor it in my car and see how fast I can try to go just to feel alive

I know that feel

ITT a circle-jerk of misery. you do this to yourselves

>be me
>27 yo boomer
>make over 100k in the Midwest
>lift and have interesting hobbies
>buy whatever the fuck I want and eat tasty food daily
>hang with some young whippersnappers to keep me feeling young
>dress very nice and have a new car and my own place
>feeling more optimistic about life than ever before
>tfw no GF still creeps in and triggers lonlieness more than ever before in my life
Being a boomer is fucking awesome, the only thing that sucks is women these days are a nightmare. I can hop on tinder and get laid like once a month but they are usually below my standards and they are so damn flaky it’s unreal. Every girl above a 4/10 has 5-10 beta orbiters and thinks they can do better so they aren’t afraid to just ghost. Whatever 99% of women are broke losers with nothing to offer but a hole when you get down to brass tax we’re fucking men that created everything important in this world. We’re all gonna make it brehs I believe in all of you.

>>10775969
That's crazy man, I'll see if I can give this guy's shrooms a try

BRO YOU NEVER FUCKING RESPOND
ARE YOU SOME ISRAELI PHSYOPS?

btw try fasting 1-5 days on water. Really mentally and physically can change you.

>>10773883
M8 this is good for us non retards I hope more kids end up like that so there’s less competition for those high wages. Question is does management choose to ignore these things and still promote faggot onions like you described because they are the nephew of the CEO? That’s the problem is hard work is rarely rewarded it’s almost always who you know that gets you the job.

Why do white people always create these problems within their own head?

>>10772246
Just go to a good trade school you damn nigger.

im a 20 year old college dropout. I dont know what i wanna do in my life. did horrible my first year, my average was few percent down from the minimum requirement so I got kicked out of business program. If I have to go back to school, I need to do the art program to fix my grades. what do you guys think, go back to school and fix my grades or do online classes?

>>10780219
we don't have slave/wagecuck genetics

>>10779962
Just order all your nootropics from Nootropics Depot. The guy who owns it /u/MisterYouAreSoDumb is the biggest autist I've ever seen, he seriously knows his shit. The Lion's Mane you will find on ND is already hot water extracted so you don't need to do it yourself. I spent years researching nootropics, just buy everything from Nootropics Depot and you wont have to ever worry about quality. It's the official vendor of /r/Nootropics and those fags know their shit.

>>10772246
Watch Jordan B Peterson lectures.
You're welcome

25 yo PhD student here, and this shit hits me hard in the feels. I made some bad career decisions starting a PhD in chemistry, assuming its a ticket to an easy rich life, the reality is fucking morbid, seeing recently finished phd's struggle to find a job in their relevant fields and older post docs trapped in a hellish existence of being too specified and too old to find a job outside of academia, and stuck forever earning 30k a year to be a literal slave to a professor with tenure (with zero chance of making it yourself- literal dead end). PhDs, and academia are a completely outdated meme and they only continue to exist because they groom naive undergrad students into it.

I have taken accountability for my life however, do not work outside of 9-5, have developed my social life, started climbing and maintain a close knit friends circle of like minded guys. My closest friend (who advised me against doing a Phd since the beginning) is now making 55k a year in tech and saving for a mortgage.

I have started to teach myself programming in my spare time and have started a project with him and another friend (also a software dev) to make a js portfolio website and they have put me in charge of the front-end development whilst they manage the hairier back-end and management shit. This way I can learn on the job, and get a solid project to add to my CV. I am in too deep to quit the PhD (2 more years) so I am going to finish it off purely because it is a comfy life, and my boss is easy to trick into thinking I'm productive. The chemistry pays the rent while I teach myself to program and work on the project on weekends. I intend to do a masters in comp. science after the PhD and am dreading being a 28yo boomer looking for my first job, but am thankful that my friends will carry my ass through a few projects so I will at least have relevant work experience.

>1/2

>>10780958
>2/2

Meanwhile, I intend to do as much climbing as possible, get my drivers liscence (dem neet problems), and have already purchased a car and go home x2 per week to practice. I am going to invest in mics and start a podcast with the aforementioned friend as a montly thing where we get drunk and talk shit about society and rosties which will keep us occupied. We aim to start a business when we hit 30 as the wagie memes have gotten to us. Even if we earn less than we otherwise would, playing an irl rts would with your best friends is better than working to make sheckelstein rich.
tldr; don't let yourself become a victim of circumstances and surround yourself with people who make your life better. The anxiety doesn't go away but you can at least sleep easier knowing youre actively working on improving your circumstances rather than shitposting on biz all day to avoid the feels.

Don't be jealous of the zoomers guys, I work in IT at a college and they are all retards, seriously most of them have no idea how anything tech related works beyond installing apps on their smartphones. I have even had to explain over the phone to clueless idiots how to work their dorm microwaves they have been so sheltered they don't know how to do shit.

>>10772673
You sample any of that hot country strange ?

>>10780958
>falling for college meme in 2018

Kys it’s over

>>10773306
You got a gf and you over complaining bout some grey hairs?

>>10772246

Sounds like you need some freedom from structure.

Just drop everything and take a 2 month long holiday to Pattaya and rethink your life while fucking cheap sluts.


Also you need to really internalize the fact that you have one life and everything is ultimately meaningless. That helps you get motivated to not waste you fucking time with shit you aren't intersted in or don't care about. Only do things you care about. Drop that book if you really hate it. Push your own boundaries. You seem like you are depressed because you can't self actualize and are instead just doing what you are told is the smart/right thing to do. You are pissing your life away.

>>10772246
Couldn't read the whole thing but you sounds pretty pathetic, so it's hard for me to like feel bad for you. Also caffeine improves your workout

>>10773061
>implying there's anything wrong with analyzing the anus of tons of women online
Fuck off

Holding onto age is a futile thing. We are all going to become elderly, so why fret?

I know this feel. I'm turning 25 this year and I feel like I will be stuck in my shit bar tending job for the rest of my life. I've been doing this shit since I was 18 and I want to leave but I don't know how. I've done a little bit of college but I dropped out because I was failing and depressed all the time. Fucking went from a marketing major to an accounting major, to a Finance major, and then to a business admin major. I realize I was just wasting my time so I dropped out. I've also tried to learn help desk/basic IT shit and web dev, but bailed on that too because I felt like I wasn't going to make it in the tech world.


I just feel like I am too dumb to get a real job. I can't even talk to normal functioning adults w/o sounding like a fucking aspie ass sad cunt.

Every day is a fucking pain for me.

In The Trouble with Being Born you wrote: "What i know at sixty, I knew as well at twenty. Forty years of a long, superfluous, labor of verification." Which surprised me a little, perhaps because I didn't want to believe it.

There is no progress in life. There are small changes, above all it's a question of intensity, as I said.

>>10779986
How do I get around this. I can't even get a fucking job with my business degree. t. 2 years out of college. Literally trying everything everywhere at this point.

>>10782684
Insurance claims/customer service.

24 year old here. Went really low this year, became homeless, lost my healthcare, and sharing all of your feels. I'm not letting it get me down just yet though. Found a place to live and a job , within the next 2-3 years I'll have 30k saved up with which I'll go get my MBA and move back up. also maybe crypto will pick up by then. And if this fails by 30 then suicide it is.

Were all in this together bros. We are the insecure, uncertain yell of our generation. Well be alright, our destination is all the same. A hole in the dirt.

>>10782738
Thanks, I'll give it a shot. I got duped into trying insurance sales early this year, and couldn't bring myself to more or less scam people so I could make more than 23k a year. It sucked that the 401k annuity rollovers weren't as good as NW mutual, or Mass Mutual. Had a lead with Merrill Lynch but they dropped me half way through the selection process. Hopefully being on the sales side can help with being on the service and claims side.

>>10782684
a business degree can get you any cushy job you want, anon. What the fuck are you talking about? Keep trying.

>>10778949

I did a STEM degree that wasn't maths and simply want to brush up on stuff at the level of a non maths major's first 6 math courses in university, if you know what I mean. I'm not an innumerate who can't do basic algebra

>>10773883
Dude I am a millennial and relatively recently started working. I work as hard as a mule but it's pointless and demeaning. We got scammed out of our pensions before we were even born. We are cucked by high taxes. Is it any wonder we don't want to slave for 9 hrs a day in a world were information is at our fingertips? Today is the era for self employment. We have to think like entrepeneurs or get fucked. It's survival. Why would I work for someone else with nothing in exchange?

>>10782852
I keep ending up against MBAs or get dropped from selection for one reason or another. Here's a list of shit that I've regularly applied for and lost on

>Data prep (SQL and access)
>Data entry
>Bookkeeping
>Liason
>HR rep
>Broker trainee
>Teller
>Advisor
>Paralegal
>Biz analyst/mentee
I'll keep chugging. I must just be too aspie to tell that an interview didn't go well, finding stuff with too much competition, or I am applying to companies with diversity quotas or something.

>>10778791
Yeah good luck waiting for your computer jesus to come. AI only works in super-simplified, autistic endeavors like board games and math. When it comes to real life, nothing is smarter than a human. This is as good as it gets folks.

I used to be an anxious tryhard-overachiever in my 20-27

then my dad a stroke and nobody gave a shit about him for a year, most people i know forgot about that event in a month or so, they thought i was fine

so i became a comfy underachiever boomer, i literally give no fucks now, i used to be one of those guys who got anxious about doing projects alone and having no friends, now i literally seek to be alone most of the time and do things alone and just do what i have to do

don't have that great dreams about yourself, glory seems good but once you have it you realize it's meaningless as fuck

and i say this because i have been on the top of the game, fit as fuck, doing shit with my life and so on, and if you already don't feel good with people you won't feel good when people see you up to, actually the most meaningful thing i have done until now was taking care of my father and in that period of my life people looked down on me because i wasn't doing business or shit at all, i really enjoyed seeing people look down on you because they thought they were doing important shit while you were having the greatest time on your life doing things that were important for you (in this case, taking care of my bedridden father).

>>10780958
I got you beat dude.
24 and graduated from pharmacy school with exact same feelings.
I can't fucking work in this field, I'm incompetent and grad school was a degree factory.
All I ever wanted to do was join the military at 18 and pay for my own college, but I let my parents pressure me into a degree I didn't want since they wanted to pay for my schooling.
Now I'm trapped in a miasma of guilt and anxiety for this supposedly prestigious degree.

THEY LITERALLY DIDN'T WANT ME TO EARN A FREE EDUCATION SO THEY COULD HAVE THE BRAGGING RIGHTS OF PAYING FOR THEIR CHILD'S COLLEGE.

>>10772334
I laughed at this, why?

>>10775534
Vape instead to keep your heart happy. Or at least drink your piss to repair the damage done from smoking and only smoke pipes and cigars.
All of you ought to drink your piss. Unironically will fix your problems.
All that said nicotine is probably the best thing that's ever happened to me.

kys op

BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEE: The Thread

>>10783189

>tfw wanted to join the army when I was 18 as well
>not American so our military is a garbage joke that does nothing
>Iraq/Afghanistan war ended the year I turned 18
>ended up going to uni instead
>now 25 and feel like I am too old

I hate this feeling, I feel like I missed out. But I've got to much to lose now to join up at this stage in my life unless something major happens.

>>10783458
The best part is that my mom is a fucking veteran from the gulf war.
She was unsure what she wanted to do after HS and enlisted, had a great time, traveled around the world and met my dad through the skills she got in the army.
So what did she do when I wanted to enlist?
Convince me that I wouldn't be able to handle it, that I'd be a terrible soldier, that I would die in Afghanistan.
DESPITE THE FACT I COULD HAVE ENLISTED IN THE AIRFORCE OR NAVY OR COAST GUARD, AND THIS WAS IN 2012!

>>10783609

Christ your mum sounds horrible.

>>10783609
she just probably knew that you were a little bitch

>>10773260
Dude I’m 30 in the best shape of my life and I have 22 year old whores hitting me up daily but I only fuck with intelligent women who are calm. Feels nice

>>10775352
it's called an accidental death.. pretty easy shit

>>10783189
Bro forget about your parents, you don't owe then guilt. In hindsight, you should have told them to fuck off, and simply joined the military. Just learn from the past, faggot.

Also, it's spooky how much this thread is resonating with me. Even OP's attempt to read fucking GRAVITY'S RAINBOW, holy shit, my boomer parents have that on there bookshelf, I can confirm it's boring as fuck.

OP, don't do shit just because a lot of people say it's good. I went to Macchu Piccu last year for example, and I thought it sucked ass. Just stop giving fucks about what people think.

Like others have said in this thread, all this shit about over achieving or achieving glory, or whatever the fuck, is just pride. Plain and simple.

Pride is the worst sin. I don't give a fuck if your religious or not, but in Christianity, God punished the devil, out of all the angels because the Devil was so proud, that he thought he was better than God.

Pride is bullshit. Evetything you have comes from God. EVERYTHING. You didn't work for your brain, your body. Even those of you who are disagreeing, who say they're selfmade, well your motivation came from God, your will that lives in your brain, comes from God, your mind comes from GOD. YOU ARE NO BETTER OR NO WORSE THAN ANYBODY ELSE, AND GOD FUCKING HELP YOU IF YOU THINK OTHERWISE. THERE IS NO SIN WORSE THAN THE SIN OF PRIDE.

I type this as I am pretty much crippled my psoriatic arthritis at the age of 27. It sucks massive dicks, brehs. If this shit continues, I may have to literally go into a wheel chair. And you know what? I don't really give a fuck like I used to. Seriously. I tell people to fuck off now that would have been too pussy to do so in the past. It's freeing in a way.

To all you bros who are going into comp sci... why? Do you really give a fuck? Are you just scared and think it'll give you a job? Fuck that shit. Only genuine autists belong in that field. Stop giving a fuck about money and roasties.

>>10783609
I don't know whose more of a bitch, your helicopter mom, or you.

>>10784020
>>10783734
I'm well aware.
Changing things now but just bitching I guess.

>>10773339
>mfw im in better shape at 31 than I ever was before
you're just a shit human being, honestly go ahead and kys

>>10772246
>I am 200 pages in to Gravity's Rainbow, which I find boring as fuck
How much of a retard are you if you can't find what is widely considered the best book released post WWII entertaining

>be 19 yo zoomer
>live with retarded ass 27 yo boomer who plays videogames until 2 o clock daily
>find this seriously annoying
>argueing with him
>I have 500k at 19, show respect
>boomer gets intensely butthurt, threatens to beat me up
>can't annoy him too much so just say it's embarassig and that he should have children/a house by now
>clear butthurt, argue a bit more and then we both walk away
>next day flat out avoiding me

>>10775534
Vape weed using a Volcano if you actually give a shit about your lungs. Any other form of "vaping" is causing you to imbibe lab created chemicals.

>>10772451
>he's not premium stock

Lmao @ your life, filthy plebian

>>10784045
>Gravity's Rainbow
>a-a-all the critics and fans liked it, you're the one whose wrong

book fans like you are a fucking cancer

>>10784057
>has 500k and yet lives with a roommate twice his age

who's the real loser here? it's you

>>10784113

There's nothing degrading about living with older people (not true other way around imo), and I don't want to use half my cash to buy a mid tier house.

>>10772246
It sounds like you're trying to run when you haven't yet learnt how to walk. Why don't you start with smaller things, and gradually work up?
>"No coffee after 6 pm" because I think they are self-limiting and pathetic crutches.
How the fuck can you take that away from not taking in caffeine past a certain time? Do you think a good night's sleep is self-limiting? Switch to instant coffee in the evening.

>>10784057

How the hell do you end up with 500k at 19? Lucky investing? Or you come from a well off family? You surely didn't get it from a job.

>>10772246

I'm in an almost identical situation except I just finished up law school and am $100k in debt.

>>10784255
25k by 18 (working since young, max student loan), buying/selling btc and bch as they went up and down

>>10772246
Imagine that but being a 28 year old boomer. Depression for 10 years +

Lived maybe 40 percent of my life under the influence of a chemical or a bunch of them . Currently trying to get off hard stims

Still no aspirations in life. There, feel better?
>>10773430
Based 28 year old lions mane boomer.
I just started taking it 2 weeks ago. Do you think it is still beneficial while on low doses of stimulants daily? I dont want them to go to waste since they were expensive

>>10773430
>>10784353
>>10773430
>They are nootropics that protect neurons in your brain and help you grow new ones. I'm 6 weeks in taking both and have massive improvements. I can learn things better now than I could at 18


Tell me more? Is this like Modafinil in that it only works for a few hours? Or is it permanent, you take it and if repairs your brain? Wait does it repair your brain to what it was like in your teens, or does it improve it?

God I love all this transhumanism shit coming out now through nootropics. Cybernetic brain implants fucking when?

>>10772246
>everything feels like work
You lack drive, motivation. Work should cause a sense of enjoyment and accomplishment. Stop focusing on the end goal and focus on smaller steps. Take something you want to learn and cut it up into smaller more manageable pieces.

>>10784006
>Even OP's attempt to read fucking GRAVITY'S RAINBOW, holy shit, my boomer parents have that on there bookshelf, I can confirm it's boring as fuck.

>itt: 27 year old toddlers crying about muh wasted youth

Wasting your early 30s is way worse than wasting your 20s, believe me. At least if you're a 25+ old you can still recover. You can fuck up as much as you want and still find a job and gf at the end of your 20s.
You can just make peace with yourself and consider your wasted 20's as extended teens - after all you still have enough energy and opportunity to change things.

But when you're almost 40, you're done, even if your 20s have been productive. I see more and more job openings that list 40 (or even 35) as a cut-off threshold. Having a blank resume at 27 is way better than to have a resume with gaps 10 year later.

>>10784293

>fake money

lmaoing at you

>>10784603
It is suppose to repair them , for the long term anon

I think it is especially good for drugcucks like me who have raped and pillaged certain neurons in my brain

No one knows the fine details tho, everyone is different. Some react better to it, some may feel nothing

But many studies show similar results of positive function in the brain

If you think Pynchon is boring you probably just haven’t read enough books.Try Vineland.

>>10785392
Regardless, no point in reading fiction if you simply dislike what you are reading bro.

>>10772246
>1 post by this ID

>>10785369

How do I know if my neurons are even damaged? I am only 25 and the only drugs I've ever taken is Modafinil which I only started a few months back, and weed a few times years back when I was with some dumbass friends.

But any mental enhancement stuff interests me to a great degree. Will it have any effect?

If at 18 year old straight edge guy took it, would it have any effect? Is it purely repair or does it have any enhancement. I don't want to buy if it will have little effect on me. Still sounds great either way for the future though.

>>10772246
I feel the same bro but Ive just turned 20 I’m lost

>>10772246
I'm 24, been an addict for 8-10 years. Since I was 15 I was a dealer and used drugs more than daily. Permanent tinnitus, loss of hearing, almost no real friends, 0 short term memory, I sound like a retard because I can't find the right words anymore, etc etc. My life for the last years was living in a declared uninhabitable shithole, eating fast food only, get up around 4pm only to meet junkies/dealers and start using whenever I could. Litterally lived between mold & spiderwebs

Finally some months ago I got my shit together and stopped using drugs, stopped selling etc. Got sober (still am) only to realise I lost my youth, my life, my character, my personality, my education, my girl.

I do have some money, but it litterally doesn't mean a shit to me..all I want is to start over

>>10785596
It is beneficial to everyone m8
You'll be sharper than you are now. I'll be hopefully back to baseline , then with continued use I'll be a little up

>>10785816
This
I cant blame it all on drugs but something snapped and broke in me many years ago. I've been sober loads of times, I'll be more functional but the glow or spark in me is gone. I'm monotone, never excited, dont care about anything and want to die. What kind of girl will want to be with a real calm low tone guy.

>>10775445
Jesus are you me anon...?

>>10780219
>Be happy and dumb
>Be unhappy and smart

Pick one

>>10784353
>Do you think it is still beneficial while on low doses of stimulants daily?

Yes, just take it. Be patient though, as I said all studies are done after a full 4-8 weeks of supplementation.

>>10784603
No, its definitely a long term supplement, unlike other nootropics. Lions mane helps with repairing your brain and protecting it, but it does a lot more than that. When you start taking it, a lot of people become itchy because it stimulates NGF production. That NGF is helping you build new neurons. On the other hand, Bacopa Monnieri is actually like fertilizer for your brain because it stimulates the growth of dendrites. Dendrites are the physical brain components that help you store and access memories better. For instance, one effect I got from bacopa after awhile was vivid memories from my past that I'd forgotten about for perhaps a decade or more.

As I said before, YOU MUST STICK WITH IT FOR 4-8 WEEKS THO!

Read some plebbit posts for more info. As much as we all hate them here, that subreddit is a gem of information that 4chan can't compete with. The users are completely autistic and explain things in much greater detail than I can sometimes comprehend. Just read through some posts:

https://old.reddit.com/r/Nootropics/search?q=lions%20mane&restrict_sr=1

>>10780958
I was doing an BSc and in chemistry and seeing the PhD students struggle for a communist wage was somewhat of an eye opener. But the real red pill happened when I did an internship for half a year in a small company and the chemisty there...she literally made no money....

She told me once and I quote:

"Anon...you don't understand my situation...over 50% of my wage goes directly to daycare for my kids (who is autistic) and his medication. The rest goes to taxes and rent...I literally have nothing left"

That shocked the fuck out of me and then I asked around and basically found out chemists earn nothing. So I did a MSc in Pharma Management instead and now MSc Data Science. Fuck chemistry.

>>10781563
Let me tell you a little secret anon: getting a gf does not solve your (mental) problems. It may seem that way in the beginning but after a while things just get worse because of the realization that nothing changed.

>>10783212
Because it's funny

>>10772246
aside from the junk food I'm pretty much in the same boat as you OP. Life is awful, working low wage job after low wage job, making enough money to pay rent and go to the bars and socialize but not actually growing as a person. Feels real bad man

>tfw Gen Y will go down as the most useless pile of shit
>tfw Gen Z has to pick up the clack, because boomers are going to die out

>>10772246
27 isn’t even your prime yet and you’re wailing like a faggot. Good luck in life you unfuckable manchild.

>>10775280
this. Personally I use autoscarification - if I'm stuck in a loop I can exit it by heating a knife and carving patterns into my skin. If my life's battle is against depression, it might as well leave a scar. Plus it makes you look badass the way tattoos did before they got popular

>>10786354

It sounds amazing. But I have some questions.

If Bacopa Monnieri can help restore your memory, is this a solution to dementia? I used to work in a nursing home and the dementia ward was the most depressing thing in existence. There were old people who had forgotten how to fucking speak and had literally reverted back to early childhood and were behaving like babies because they had forgotten almost all of their memories and knowledge including some advanced motor functions.

Why the fuck are these people not given Bacopa Monnieri? Is it just not strong enough to help them at that stage or are there other reasons. I am really interested in taking this.

>>10786497
Ah....ok....uhm....I'm gonna go over there ok anon...see you around

>>10773697

I agree with this anon>>10773769

People are extremely stressed these days. There is no greater meaning to life. People used to live in order to have a family, to give glory to God, and to succeed at their various passions. It used to be that simply going to school, getting an education, working hard, was all that was needed for success!

Imagine that. Just going to your job, doing a good job, was enough to get promoted and to get enough money to buy a house, a car, and support an entire family of 4 on your income that you earn from working 40 hours a week, complete with at least a few weeks vacation time in the summer.

Sure people were stressed and they sacrificed but if you just worked hard and kept your head down and a stiff upper lip you were guaranteed to advance. It's not true anymore. You can work extremely hard and never get anywhere.

I've only gotten a couple of raises in my life. Both were for a handful of cents per hour. How can someone even find motivation to work harder when that's all there is at the end of the tunnel?

>>10780970
Why don't you fucking cucks just cook mdma?

>>10776397
>the opposite of depression isnt happiness, but curiosity.
fucking spot on my dude. it's all about maintaining your appetite for life - if you eat a bunch of junk food before going to a fancy restaurant, you will not appreciate it as if you came hungry. So come at life with the hunger to dominate, to learn, to impress.

>>10776397
ok so what kind of a living are you making on your 2 year philosophy degree?

>>10786536
I am >>10773769 and I completely agree with you on everything you just said. I think about that on a daily basis.

Funny enough I discussed exactly what you wrote with a couple of friends of mine the other day because we we're discussing why so many students drop out due to mental health issues.

The conclusion was basically: the little bit of meaning and structure to life that people used to have i.e. get kids because it's good, wife takes care of kids and men is breadwinner has been ripped away.

Now
>having kids is bad
>men should take care of kids! WOMEN ARE BETTER AT WORKING
>NEVERMIND WOMEN SHOULD DO EVERYTHING! WORK AND TAKE CARE OF KIDS

It may sound like nothing to some people but I honestly think that people have nothing to look forward to anymore. Zero aspirations because zero structure and thus zero meaning.

Society has not just changed drastically for men but also for women. Both sexes suffer from major mental health issues nowadays. Antidepressents are going through the roof and everyone has a burnout.

I have no proof for what I wrote here (expect anti depressant, dropouts and burnouts) but all of the above has been my gut feeling for yeaaaars now and after years of discussing and thinking about it that is my conclusion.

>>10779943
what job do you have? I'm also in the midwest, have a college degree, got a 30 on my ACT but barely make 22k per year

>>10785596
the effect will be subtle, it's not like taking Adderall or modafinil. Especially since it takes weeks to kick in, it is difficult to determine the effect. However, it will protect your neurons so as you age you will remember things better and you might be able to learn new things easier.

>>10786685
>It may sound like nothing to some people but I honestly think that people have nothing to look forward to anymore. Zero aspirations because zero structure and thus zero meaning.

You might have a point there for some, but I think it's just a challenge to overcome. Either succumb to the meaningless of society, or make your own and create your own goals. I went through a similar thing when I was 18-19, got really depressed when I realized how much everything had changed for the genders and how being a man meant something else now. But when I realized that nothing else matters and all is inherently meaningless, there is no purpose or greater goal in anything you do or achieve in life, it was actually a freeing realization, not some depressing nihilistic spiritual death. It was an awakening. I was now the author of all meaning to myself. I became the fucking ruler of my life, my goals and ambitions. Granted it will take you a few years to go through the mental stage and then figure out what you want to do and what matters to you and what has meaning to you. But at the end you are your own master, you are stronger, you rely on yourself and your own goals, not achieving shit that others or society set out for you to do.

I guess not everyone would come out of it like I would though, and a lot would just lit in squalor and depression. But that just means less competition for us who soldier on through it. To be honest I am not too concerned if the weak fail and their absence gives me more rewards. There is already too much competition in life, competitors taking themselves out of the game is good.

>>10786789

Sounds highly useful. I might end up buying some of this.

>>10786526

“My father, who has cognitive impairment due to Parkinson's started doing his crosswords again (which is huge in his case), after I started giving Lion's Mane's capsules. So, yeah, I do believe in its nootropics effects. No placebo in his case, since other supplements didn't have the same effect, and he doesn't know exactly what I give him.
I can't tell first hand if it has nootropic effects on healthy subjects, but many anecdotes online do point in that direction.”

https://www.reddit.com/r/Nootropics/comments/80r4vw/are_we_really_getting_cognitive_benefits_from/

All the info you seek is on that subreddit

>>10786931
Good for you anon, bless. I came to that realization as well but instead it made me more depressed, everything nothins me.

Anways, there is a giant flaw in your theory though imo:

>To be honest I am not too concerned if the weak fail and their absence gives me more rewards.

Because these "weak" people are everywhere and basically all my friends (especially women) are on happy pills. If these people malfunction like this on a large scale this does not bode well for society and you are part of that society.

Sure if you look at everything on invidiual levels, you may be right and you may be lucky. But one should look at the societal macro level the weak will bring down the strong i.e. you.

>>10786363

We're really fucked as a society, aren't we?

>>10787579
Also, this is the most r9k thread I have EVER read on this godforsaken sub-forum. The bottom must be in.

>>10787579
I think so yes but I am the kind of guy that becomes triggered when someone says "he is a half full kind of guy"

>It all depends on whether you had a full glass and poured half out or whether you simply poured in half, THE EXPRESSION MAKES NO SENSE. Just like the chicken or the egg expression.

>>10786363
>daycare
the cost is absolutely insane, imageboard neets really have no idea how fucked up it is. even if your kids don't have special needs.

>>10774189
see you tomorrow

For those you who are 30+ and still single, do you think you will just end up marrying some retired roastie and become a step dad to some shit kid? Everyone I went to high school with is getting married and having kids and all I'm doing is sitting around hoping that I'll find a qt gf. I feel like some desperate women will just end up being with me because it's better than being alone.

>>10775475
Post of the month

>>10780219
Existential musings of the white man has created all of the philosophy and literature in the world worth reading

>>10787831
just learn to be fucking honest with yourself
every man wants to fuck young women
every woman wants to fuck successful men
get successful and fuck 18 year olds

>>10787796
Yep, it's fucking insane.

>That one thing you really cannot for the life of you understand why it is not heavily subsized. EU btw

>>10787831
honestly man. Im 31 and im just hoping i can have a kid to watch and grow with. I dont want to be 60 and have a kid at 40. With that being said im a fucking neet with no money. If i can make it im going to get fucking out of my sytems for about 6 months then try and wife a late 20's gril

should have taken the marriage pill. happiness if it works out. midlife crisis energy if you divorce. win win

>>10782549
nigger bartend at the local hard rock. MY freind make 100k a year from tips

>>10772334
For me, it's the McChicken. The best fast food sandwich. I even ask for extra McChicken sauce packets and the staff is so friendly and more than willing to oblige.

One time I asked for McChicken sauce packets and they gave me three. I said, "Wow, three for free!" and the nice friendly McDonald's worker laughed and said, "I'm going to call you 3-for-free!".

Now the staff greets me with "hey it's 3-for-free!" and ALWAYS give me three packets. It's such a fun and cool atmosphere at my local McDonald's restaurant, I go there at least 3 times a week for lunch and a large iced coffee with milk instead of cream, 1-2 times for breakfast on the weekend, and maybe once for dinner when I'm in a rush but want a great meal that is affordable, fast, and can match my daily nutritional needs.

I even dip my fries in McChicken sauce, it's delicious! What a great restaurant.

>>10788358
Niceee

>>10772272
Lets start a new slang term

KOP

KILL OTHER PEOPLE

>>10776397
>the opposite of depression isnt happiness, but curiosity.
unironically the most impactful thing i've ever read on the Internet. It describes what I do well. I've been depressed for so long, and all I do is search for new things and places. kek. Maybe what I'm doing is the right thing to be doing after all.

>>10776397
Also kek i'm all in on LINK LOL. i love this post man. thanks.

>>10773697

Well said. This can also be dumbed down to Alphas getting shit done and betas sitting around whinging and moaning.

Put your feelings aside guys and focus on cold hard actions, and results.

>>10772246
>When I turn 30, my life will be over.
here's your mistake. perspective.
many people approaching their 30's feel this way. yes, you don't have the stamina of an athletic 22yo.
but you're not alone and as I said, plenty feel the way you do - even "successful" people whom you think never feel like you.
get out there. only person to blame is yourself with a population this large; there are people out there who will love you for you.
...faggot.

>>10773697
This is correct.

The inability to be disciplined and take responsibility are the greatest problems with our world today.
Who knows where this is going to take is with the new generations. It's incredibly concerning to say the least

>>10772246
Honest suggestion, find better help than 4chan. Internet searching will find books and services that could help you out. and when they don't make your own help. we are the same like a lot. not sure if you want to talk on discord or something, but if you want to i'll be around for a few hours.

>>10776397
>>10775475
>>10773697
One of the best threads in recent times

A lot of this stuff you can come to the conclusion on in your own time and thought.
Other things you really need to advice of the wise and the older, they'd essentially struggled through the same things you did.
"The opposite of depression isn't happiness, but curiosity" - spot on. This reminds me of how Peterson says that people just need to go out, find the things that they enjoy, figure out your problems, and take the responsibility of all these things.
I know many people may not like him, but for me, he's had a phenomenal impact on my mindset and how I conduct myself in the world.
Discipline and responsibility are one hell of a drug man.

>>10775475
>>10775445
>>10774472
>>10774036
>>10773697
>>10773430
>>10772246

These posts almost had me crying this is the craziest most heartpouring thread in 4chan this year maybe of all time, only read 50% so far. Younger people are so fucked and depressive I feel so bad for you I am 40. I know my life is over so its kind of a greyish hued blur type feel but I kind of accepted it and don't want to an hero just have fun until I die.

>>10780958
You sound cool tbqh, lots of lazy ass slacker PhDs out there, if you are smart enough to mix Comp Sci with Chem you can evolve it to be in Biochem/Bioengineering and actually there is lots of science work and money there.

>>10787831
Lots of women exist at 30 no kids now, your Early Millennials. If you go for them remember they want no fucking games, families and kids or they drop your ass fast but you can definitely still get some singles with no kids. 20s now I'd say 60% of them still have no kids maybe 70%.

>>10772246
>When I turn 30, my life will be over.
Your life is already over if you're jelly at 27. If you think 27 is old you're already dead, you're supposed to keep your energy until 45 and then fight to keep it until 65.

>>10774006
you dont need books, just a fundamental fear of failure and inability to find meaning in life

It's a double edged sword - it either makes them into those stereotypical nihilists who thinks they're deep, or strengthens his/her resolve and ambition

>>10773480
>acid or lsd

>>10773642
Thanks for this

>>10784057
God i hate zoomers so much

>>10775445

Christ anon you got into crypto for the exact same reasons as I did. I am only 25 but I am feeling this "wasted 20's" think early. I wasted 19-23 on being a neet, finally got a stable wagecucking job at 24 and it's made time pass like a flash and I don't know where the last year went. I feel like working makes me achieve nothing in terms of personal goals. But being neet gives me not enough money to achieve personal goals.

I went into crypto trying to "catch up" to others and sort of rewind the damage 4 years of being a neet did to me.

I want you to make it man. I hope you have some Link. I really want you and me to both make it.

>>10786689
Bro no one cares about your act score. Source: person who had a high act score

>>10792106
the fact he brought his mediocre ACT score up in this thread is all I need to know regarding why he is struggling in life

This should be on /r9k/. Nonetheless, good to read something different other than the usual cryptoshit that goes around here

>>10772246


shut the fuck up and get over yourself you are still just a kid.

Real adult life starts in the late 20s anyway and you're an adult for the rest of your life. in adult years you're just a baby.

>>10772246
You're insecure and really good at complaining, I'll tell you that much. It really is just narcissism and self-depreciation at work. It's not unique at all, and I hate to tell you but your ideal results aren't very realistic due to your defeatist attitude. Get some therapy if you can, it could actually help you get better. A lot of delusion to unpack here.

>>10775475
Wow /biz/ is great again

Everything's fucked.
Keep working and don't let others hold you back because we're all gonna make it.

Unironically the best thread on /biz/ in awhile. I love you anons.

>>10773883
>>10782878

Exactly. This guy is like "millennials are spoiled and entitled" because they don't wagecuck appropriately to his standards but fails to acknowledge the state of the country/economy/world.

Millennials are more stressed, because things like smartphone notifications and social media gnaw at their grey matter, and also because the world is in a bad place for them. Boomers can't relate.

>>10786612
based and redpilled

All of you have unironically forgotten God.

>>10783609
she's a mom now anon her maternal instinct is stronger than her soldier self, she's just trying to protect you from harm as any other mother should do

27 and I have big fat crow's feet around my eyes, what do.

>>10772246
This is what failed parenting outcome looks like. Adult with the attitude of a child

>>10794274
Stop smiling or squinting so much.

>>10794498

I don't. I moisturize my face at night and try not to sleep on my side. But they won't go away.

Reading this thread makes me feel good. Software developer 2 years into uni, making 70k and doing school part time. Took a year off to finish school up after 2 years of work. Graduating today (last exam is in 7h wish me luck lads) and just got a job for 85k at a big tech company. Age: 23

Before you fags go like "oh you're lucky to be in CS", go fuck yourself. I go to a difficult university, and I can't tell you how many nights I've spent working on projects, assignments, learning difficult mathematics. I dealt with difficult deadlines at work, and had to pick up new technologies every two months. I had to work alongside people of 10-20 years of experience and not choke. The reason I got the job offer was because I was extremely productive during my internship, which they hired me full time out of.

I code at least 4 hours a day even when I'm not working. And I'm still shit at it. In my uni the grad rate for my program is 25%, and they don't let any retard in. There is no shortage of software developers. There's a shortage of good software developers. 96% of interviewees can not write functional code during the interview. Software development is a 125iq+ field. I don't doubt some of you can learn it on your own (100% possible if you have the drive and intelligence) but a lot of you won't be able to.

>>10794661

You are getting underpaid.

Also if you are a high pareto distribution individual, working for someone else is basically giving away 99% of the value you generate.

Build dapps.

>>10794681
I know I am, but right now I'm looking for high skill individuals that I can glean information from. I'm not concerned enough to believe that I can start a software project that generates income myself.

The plan is to build a service and get paid in XMR anonymously when I'm high skill enough.

>>10794713
s/concerned/conceited

>>10772246
That's why I cucc all the zoomers by fucking their 20 year old sisters

>>10794713

Good reason to work somewhere. Best of luck anon.

why did this turd of a thread get 250 responses and mine got 0?

>>10773642
Just what I needed, thanks

>>10790693
absolutely agree. Taleb in anti fragility argues that the person must be a risk taker and be comfy. JP says life is suffering, so we have to give it meaning from a societal perspective and individual. Seems like their ideas go hand in hand. Societal perspective = be a wagecuck, run a business, contribute to society in meaningful ways, and the individual self (side hustles, entrepreneurship).

Seems like it's a way to strike a balance with life.

>>10773697
>Discipline for the sake of ones-self builds motivation and grit. Discipline on the micro level (doing dishes, brushing your teeth, drinking water instead of a cola)
I can attest to the fact that years of discipline have yielded a longer day and sleepless nights for me . And maybe being more aggressive by aproximately 30%.
Intermittent fasting , running , working out , balanced keto diet, nofap , wim hof method , brushing teeth twice a day , socializing with everyone from cashiers to bank employees to people on the street for no particular reason other than to know people better , challenge friends/peers to do the same etc etc, you name it i did it.
The only reason it is worthwhile to live is to bring people closer to Jesus Christ thus fulfilling the will of God and also probably keeping His commandments. Thats it , nothing else matters , no family , no money , no animals , nothing and none else other than God.

>>10782630

This idiot wasted 40 years of his life and you are listening to him? How old are you, and can you honestly say that you are the same man you were at 20? If you are 20, unironically kys.

>>10773106
how that will help ?

>>10796483
It gives you an incentive to work I guess

>>10772276
>50
20

>>10796840
>people replaced by ai
>still need a never-ending flow of mexicans and other spics
You know what? Fuck this.

>>10796930
I unironically agree with this. If only we could convince the leftists that AI achieves both ours and their interests far more efficiently than anything else. Imagine both sides united to push for a technocracy and a manhattan-tier project for the invention of AI, but no, lets focus on fucking irrelevant issues like immigration and whether wages are $10 or $11, and pretend that those are the most important issues for humanity right now

r u me op? i relate so much to everything you've written except i rarely have the disapline to even do ANYTHING hard -- i couldnt read 50 pages of gravity's rainbow

any old fags want to advise?

>>10773697
>>10773883

not everything can be fixed by a firm handshake and rising early you fucking boomer retards

>>10797039
not with that attitude

>>10794097
Absolutely based. God is everything. Fuck Jordan Peterson psychobabble bullshit. Everything is from God. Everything you do should be for the glory of God.

>>10794097
The Whole Alpha vs Beta male thing is toxic bullshit. What kind of scoiety are we building where only like 0.5% of people can be happy. That's retarded as fuck. A janitor is no better than a CEO, we are all equal in the eyes of God.

>>10795994
BASED

>>10775475

well said!

>>10797060

it's a question of what we are evolved for

a lion doens't need to 'exert willpower' to go hunt, and neither did our ancestors. it might have been 'hard work' but it had none of the bizarre psycofuckery of getting up to go to a place to photocopy excel spreadsheets and get yelled at and go home alone

civilisation/rationalisation brings clear benefits (stability, income, etc) but quite clearly removes us from what comes 'naturally' -- if you track the progress of the whole 'work ethic' mindset it really hits off around the time people start doing jobs that suck, that aren't regulated by 'natural' processes (not in a hippy way, but i mean in terms of factory work vs farming) and so we begin to have to exert mental effort to perform even what are now considered basic tasks.

overall this was good for some time, because the benefits of material progress (housing, freedom from hunger etc) outweighed being mentally cucked - but fundamentals like housing and food and books have long turned into funko pops and 24/7 pornography while the mental fuckery induced by the industrial process just gets more and more intense

boomers miss all of this and make it a question of personal responsibility, but nothing genetic has changed, people are the same as they were in 1950 - it's got to be a cultural or enviromental issue, and obviously if the generation getting the 'participation trophies' is 'fucked up' the boomers who decided to hand them out must be even more culprable.

> literally not a single shill ITT

Buy as much Omisego as you can and hold for 2+ years you miserable fucks. Being rich will fix 99% of your problems.

>>10797378
What the fuck is that lmao do you realize how retarded you look like

>>10798076
We all missed BTC
We all missed LTC
We all missed ETH

(those who didnt miss it aren't reading this, they're living their dream life)

So I'm recommending "the next eth" DYOR

>>10773642
You. I like you..

You guys should really spend the time listening to boomer Steve Vai open up and discuss depression in this video (about 15 mins in):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1DIFfHvcqo

Even with all the success and fame and having access to endless pussy and blowjobs, he went through an extreme depression phase in his early youth. I know probably none of you are musicians in here, but most good musicians are high IQ and intelligent (usually autistic) and you can learn a lot of good from them.

>>10797072
>>10797088
Keep your cuck communist babble to yourself you double nigger

>>10792106
>>10792132

I think it's worth something. To be honest in my experience people with higher ACT scores tend to do worse in life than people with lower scores. My cousin got like a 16 or 17 on her ACT and now she makes nearly $300k per year in sales. She's older than me and was doing well before 2008 but it's notable. Nothing drives me crazier than seeing people who are obviously dumber than me being much more successful. And I don't hate them for it, I give them praise but it's annoying. If this person dumber than me can do great why can't I?

Meanwhile I know other people who got a 35 or 36 and want to kill themselves because their lives feel devoid of meaning.

My point is that these test scores which were supposed to indicate intelligence mean little in real life. And that's a hard fucking thing to face. To do well in school your whole life, get good grades, get accolades from your teachers and professors, and then just utterly fail at life really sucks. You're taught that school is to prepare you for life and the truth is that it really doesn't do this very well.

Also I posted this because I'm sure there are other anons here just like me. People who were intelligent high achievers in school but who then ended up not doing very well irl.

>>10795994
The Breadpill is really the answer to everyone in this threads' problems.

>>10791738

Wagecucking is soul sucking. I graduated college in 2013 and have been working ever since making shit money. It's insane to me that I've spent more time out of school than in school. In fact it is enraging.

I've had a few months of unemployment here and there in which I had saved up enough money and was able to live for a few months while searching for another job. Since college, those few months of NEETdom have been the best of my life

>Had helicopter parents that unironically killed any and all social interaction and growth in childhood
Dropped their sorry asses in a retirement home and never looked back.

>>10799586
damn

I'm 25 and I don't feel like my life is over yet. I still feel like it's possible to make improvements and keep getting better.

>>10799561
>Since college, those few months of NEETdom have been the best of my life

That's why I was a neet for so long. But the problem is if you are a poor neet and you have no achievements eventually the depression sets in and you can no longer enjoy it. So now I have to work to run away from the depression of inactivity.

I am certain that if I make it with crypto and become rich, even mildly rich, I will be able to go back to being a neet and fully enjoy it. Because I will have won. The end goal of a career is just money, and I will have that without having to wade through a fucking career. Any other experience can be bought with money pretty much. So I wont feel like I fucked up and wasted it. I am sure that I will also use my money to do business on the side as well and occupy my time in more interesting ways than just playing video games and watching stuff too.

But I am able to look back at my neet years and really track them in time, just buy the games I played, or the shows I watched. For example before I got my first stable job at 24, I had an unstable run when I was 22 working on construction sites, some jobs lasted 2 days or a few weeks, one lasted a few months with significant gaps in between. It was all horrible and 2015 was a bad year. I spent about 9 months of that year employees even though I skipped so many days of work and sometimes didn't turn up for a week straight, boss didn't give a fuck, just wouldn't pay me if I didn't turn up to whatever house we were building that day, almost impossible to get fired.

Cont...

Part 2 sorry for the blogpost. I need to get this out.

I was actually officially employed for 9 months of that year, and unemployed for 3. But I can't remember shit about that year, all the working is a blur, I can't peace it together what I did, it was the same shit everyday. That year is like a black hole in my memory, surrounded by very clear memories of neetdom. But the weird thing, the 3 months of neetdom of that year I can remember very significantly. And what scares me, is that the 3 months of neetdom I had in 2015 I achieved more than the entirety of 2017 and 2018 being employed in a stable normal wagie job. I've barely watched any shows, only played a handful of games, I had to drop reading entirely. yet in 3 months of neetdom in 2015 I played Thief 1 & 2, Deux Ex HR, Watched all 25 something 007 films and played most of the games, read Michael Crichtons Jurassic Park books and watched all the films, watched Legend of the Galactic Heroes which is fucking long, played SSX/Tricky, got into Dead or Alive lewd fighting games, got into retro build engine shooters and played Shadow Warrior, I watched several seasons of various cute girl anime series, played tons of other games inbetween I can't remember and watched other films like Gone Girl. All in fucking 3 months of being a neet. In the last almost 2 years of being a wagie I have played Quake, a Monkey Island game, watched like 2-3 seasons of anime and a movie here and there. Fucking nothing. Completely dropped books and marathoning long seasons/series of anything.

I feel like I have pissed the last 2 years of my life down the drain being a fucking wagecuck. I want that time back. But at least I have wagebucks in my bank account now and can buy some Link.

18-21 year old me was stupid as fuck. I cannot believe how dumb I used to be, it is infuriating. Fucked up my pivotal years by being a dumbass.

t. 25

>>10786497
I love this board.

>>10786497
What the fuck

>>10774132
>7-10 hours on a dead board
Not sure if crazy or new