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>>10775116
how them CMCM clouds looking?

>>10775040
Check out Clinuvel.

https://www.asx.com.au/asxpdf/20180821/pdf/...hsyj916m1lc.pdf

>>10775116
Planes Be Upon Him

first for the FNGU dream

>>10775153
http://www.sharescene.com/index.php?showtopic=27&hl=cuv

>>10775164
Literally 5min & 6 posts late

First for Coke's African Death Squads secure precious coca beans with help from Under Armor (tm)

>INTC
ENOUGH

>>10775196
There three types of look people have after brain blown out
>peaceful
>derp
>sorrowful
Me always wonder what mine would be

>>10775196
It looks like the MLB Baseball League has incorporated body armor to splashing over the players instead of gatorade

>city of pl*nes

F

>>10775157
>>10775116
Unironically a hero

GALT

>>10775157
10/10

>>10775134
Not terribly great DESU. I'm going to see what happens tomorrow. I sold some of my position today. I think it is going to stuck in the cloud for a few weeks. It needs to hit ~12 to be in a good spot for a continued run. Now it is edging near overbought, didn't break past cloud, with earnings not great enough to warrant a long bull run (IMO).

>>10775249
You cant drink body armor dummy
Too bad they not make yoga pants
;_; not that me can even do yoga with doll parts

>that one lady in background pic with brain exposed
Kek

>>10775275
I've been selling on the way up... will probably sell the rest of my position tomorrow.. bought some KODK hoping for the best.. LCI fucked me pretty good so i'm going to take the night off and go play some pool with some chick and then probably fuck her till the market opens

Usually people around here are discussing what stocks are going to go up. I'd like to know the absolute worst of the worst stocks that /smg/ thinks are going to zero.

>>10775324
LCI and HMNY are givens
People have also been talking about shorting precious metals and South Africa on here lately

>>10775285

>>10775307
Take a look and consider JNPR. Quite comfy chart. Fundies are pretty solid. Testing resistance tomorrow, if your interested I would take position if it breaks past it.

>>10775407
Nice bear flag.

>>10775285
Slut

Why do google and other news aggregates including seeking alpha articles. These things are pure fucking trash 90% of the time.

>>10775344
Will HMNY be the turnaround story of 2018-2019?

So what's going on with that XRP thing?
Anyone actually doing something with it?

ahahahaahahaha
Look at these bottles
No one is ever going to buy this ugly looking drink
wow

rockstar energy is the best though

>>10775715
Did you mean monster?

>>10775715
>>10775735
>Drinking energy 'drinks'

>>10775751
coffee is better but occasionally it's good, 2-3 of them and you are wired all day

Anyone know if REIT stocks are any good?

>>10775652
retard

>>10775816
I basically live off of REITs and things of a similar style

>>10775816
Real estate is in trouble globally.

>>10775652

using /g/ to gauge rtx reaction is like sifting through the sewer. What is about gaming cards that makes everyone a retard. The intel/AMD discussions had some serious good discussion.

The only good RTX discussion was days ago in slow threads.

>>10775816
Buy NRZ.

>>10775843
What if the property they own are like offices for businesses?

>bloomberg intelligent "analyst" guest says the elon musk tweet funding secured was bad idea.
Thanks so much TV show for helping investors. This was live 2 minutes ago.

>>10775877
idk, fuck real estate is my opinion unless it's a specific case. The overall macro case is bad worldwide so you need a specific micro case like say HQ2 for amazon is moving in, or the space is uniquely high growth.

Real estate is getting BTFO in general lately, but there are definitely places where it isn't.

>>10775652
I'm going to buy one tomorrow to support my KO Bros out there. I'll let everyone know if it's shit.

Why not line everything up

Macros on your side. Market growth on your side. Sector on your side. etc etc then pick from this selection to go long. Why try to pick a company in Turkey or in real estate without a really terrific reason.

You wanna align everything on your side. It's why shorts don't make sense most of the time imo unless you have some lumber liquidators story to blow it up with.

>>10775907
Thanks
If its really better than Gatorade, a bottle redesign would go far

>>10775344
Do you know if LCI is on ssr? One article I read said it is but I dont see it on the list.

>>10775872
>>10775816

I second this. I own like 11k worth.

>>10775872
Why

My portfolio is all in QLD, CURE, and TMF. Thoughts on TMF? Not sure how I feel about bonds. If I'm going to be greedy, should I not go all the way?

>>10775652
Looks like the bottles have gay bondage gear on

Is it possible to make 2% gains on a daily basis, just day trading? If so, with 100$ I could make 100,000$ in a year. Is this feasible? Does anyone here daytrade?

>>10776053
yes, that would be only 1000x returns per one year

>>10776053
I will grow a second penis before any anon pulls this off

>>10775869
Everyone saw the announcement and jumped over to /g/ to shitpost, give it a couple days and then try again.

It's kind of like when the superbowl is going on, or when a new blockbuster movie comes out. Everyone jumps onto /sp/ or /tv/ and goes wild. Most of the people commenting during big GPU releases have absolutely zero interest in actual discussion.

>>10776068
Uhm, can you stop laughing at me? Thanks.

>>10776098
Why?

>>10776108
I'm getting real sick and tired of posters like you.

>>10776104
Feelsgoodman

https://interc.pt/2BztYXw

>>10776135
Back the fuck off dude

>>10775040
I am fucking drunk someone ask me something

>>10776053
yea you just have to buy before the market goes up and sell before it goes down

>>10776159
Why are you drinking on a monday night?

>>10776159
how can i get into volatility trading

>>10776167
Are you le trolling me

>>10776152
Fuck man, you got me shaking in my boots dude; pick up a couple of books and try not imitating a fucking satirical copypasta you mouth breathing joke
you better be under 20 or you should be ashamed of yourself, honest

>>10776148
the intercept's front page article has donald trump compared to hitler
reaks of college psych students and writing majors that desperately need money to quit their starbucks jobs
your article is about half a year old, what do I glean from this

>>10776152
Just buy DRYS

>>10776159
Do you like chickens or ducks better?
>>10776108
Because it's impossible for 99.999999999% of the population to pull off. Are you Jesus Christ here to invest?

>>10776206
Just shut the fuck up before I knock you out, dude. Nothing personnel capiche?

>>10776170
I'm Irish.

>>10776176
no that's how you make money in stocks

>>10776053

2% gain on entire portfolio is near impossible. Your risk would be too high trading so few securities at once to try to produce that figure. It'd be either jumping in and out of positions with your entire bank roll (not recommended) or trading at most three securities.

Now, hitting 2% trades each day is not a problem. It's just that with a reasonably diversified day trading portfolio, that isn't going to equal a 2% total gain on the day. And there will be periods where you're going to be flat or in the red no matter what.

>>10776233
ducken?

>>10776234
First day here?

>>10776253
Tch

>>10776159
whatcha drinking my dude; sweet, bitter or burning?

>>10776171
experience, wallmine
investopedia, books

>>10776247
Now that's just fowl

>>10776267

>>10776259
It's okay man, we all start somewhere. >>10776244 is correct. trying to hit the numbers you're asking about is basically impossible. I don't think the best traders in the world can even top that consistently. You might get that one trade just right and meme yourself to dreams, but I wouldn't count on consistently trading in a single year to hit numbers that high. But believe in yourself man. We're all gonna make it

>>10776171

Familiarize yourself with bollinger bands and the CCI indicator. I also recommend studying a few forex range trading strategies as those translate pretty to swing trading on securities. It's important to understand the relationship between warrants/options and the common shares if applicable for any stock you wish to trade. Options allow you to leverage and/or hedge your trades after a fashion with this strategy.

>>10775545
Definitely not that ship has sailed.

I'm waking up early tomorrow to buy puts on South Africa out of principle
Join me, brothers

>>10776395
There's still time to bet against them on forex

>>10776400
>>10776395
This, who is retarded enough not to short ZAR

>>10776395
>he isnt on for the opening bell every day
the absolute state of traders

>>10776400
>>10776419
What platform does RKG use to trade? I forget the name

the best part of nvidia RTX reveal is knowing how many people slammed buy orders when he said giga jiga rays and heavy deep learning over and over.

I wish to fly high like Sky King.

>>10776658
>BBY
because of the old people phones deal?

Ok someone help me out here I'm new.

SOXL semiconductor ETF seems absolutely too good to be true

1200% gains in 5 years. If you had put 100k into this 5 years ago you have 45 million now. What the fuck? is this real ?

>>10776837
thats how leverage works

>>10776851
Speaking of leverage...

>>10776972
yeah I traded the ZAR over like 2 years you should know the dollar can easily drop back down and liquidate all the small specs longing usd/zar just like it did last year

All the time for years, south african news on genocude inspires small specs to short the zar, beware, its almost always a trap

>>10777003
>b-but this time it's real, right??

Good morning /smg/ !

>>10776837
Semis had a very good run over the course of the last 5 years, with everyone including third worlders being able to buy a smartphone. Now that everyone got one, the semis market has trouble finding a new market.

>>10777016
here, just did your homework
dont buy until the usd is at 90! risk free or your money back

>>10777057
Nice! Thanks frendo, I'll name my first child after you

>>10777093
Is big5 pregnant?

>>10777163
>>10777093

I hope you guys are taking advantage of the biggest internet market in the world by buying internet chick stocks.

>>10777163
No I impregnated grim and RKG, I forced Big 5 to have an abortion because I don't want my bloodline running through his icky genetics

Gold is going up
Plz save me annon

Green day tomorrow

>>10777193
I would not be able to impregnate rkg : apparently she doesn't smile.

Can someone give me a quick rundown on what happened with tesla? Last I saw, musk announced the private conversion at 400+ and it pumped hard, and now it's in the dumpster

>>10776104

The only important thing we don't approximate have is benchmarks for the cards outside of ray tracing and deep learning. Sure all the preorders are gone due to overeager gamers,scalpers,poor researchers, and cryptocurrency miners, but by and large the only thing that matters afterwards is how well the card will perform in games and professional applications which Nvidia didn't mentioned once. Kind of pointless to guage the product's reception since Nvidia hasn't released a product for 2 years and everyone doesn't want to buy a product that is 2 years old which is forever in the computing hardware market.

The most worrisome thing is how much more expensive the cards than the last generation, as it seems like Nvidia is keen to get rid of oversupply of their card stockpile from overproducing for the cryptocurrency boom. And they know people will still buy them because they have an effective monopoly on the high end video card market. I predict short of a recession, Nvidia will probably make gangbusters margins and profit, but AMD does have the advantage in having the first 7 nm GPU and Navi might be competitive somewhat. I would predict at least Q3, Q4, and Q1 will be "good".

>>10777299
I doubt the ML layer (a low-density memory layer in the upper layers of the chip) they slap on the cards will have much of a positive impact on the card perf themselves to be honest.
Despite working there, I'm a bit grim on the short-term prospects of semis ngl.

>>10777093
Gomfy you bastard
You said to me already

>>10777332

Semis will be fine until they are forced out of using CMOS and run into practical cost issues with switching materials along with the physics getting tricky at that point to overcome.

I expect that will take around another 5 years to get there, and I would be perfectly fine with that and leaving my money put but my predictions for a recession would be around then so I do plan to exut everything before the end of 2020.

check these digits

check

Mine

>>10777717
>I expect that will take around another 5 years to get there
At 10/7nm physics are already tricky with short-channel effects and tunneling effects. Basically what's in the top fabs right now is already the best we can do on silicon or SiGe.

The biggest problem right now is that the market is mostly consumer-driven, and there is no new big product now that smartphones are nearing the end of their cycle. Nobody wants to pay for consumer health SoCs, home assistants are a bit flopping, IoT isn't taking off. All the large foundries just spent 10s of billions to bring their equipments up to date or increase outputs, and now they will have nobody to sell their chips to until we find the next big market.

>>10778032
Addendum : some technologies solve some of the problems (SOI, and gate all-around/stacked nanowires), but nobody has managed to sell something with that kind of technologies right now.

>bought my first stocks for €103
>already up €0,6
We’re gonna win bigly!

>>10778061
>€
Not gonna make it, sorry.

>>10778209
FUCK. Wait what if I short everything then?

>>10775652
but pepco bought sodastream, that shits gonna sell like a maafak

>>10778271
whatcha bought?

>>10778393
ENCE, some fag here convinced me to look into the market and company books

>>10778404
well, if it gets juiced in could moon a bit, but I dont like that it's spanish, I usually stay away from southern eu stocks

>>10778404
>Spain
Might as well buy Deutsche Bank at this point.

Since the trade-war is practically over could one of you guys go tell the whales to re-enter IQ? Every dollar it raises gives me 7.5k so like 50$ would be much appreciated.

>>10778604
Option degenerates must be killed.

>>10778604
I own 5,500 shares currently, I spent like 10k on options and like 140k on shares dude.

>>10778604
>Investing in chink tech scam companies
>might as well follow Big5Gook's investment advice

Oh btw, the chinks have a very interesting IPO for you. It is called QuTouTiao.
It is totally not an exit scam by Tencent trying to raise cash undercover

>>10778618
OMG, u crazy, hope your ave price is at least something manageable

>>10778505
>>10778575
That’s fair enough but they’re gonna be shitting cash for a couple of years

>>10778637
I forgot that the only good investments were T Bonds. Scams certainly exist, but assuming that all the investments in a nation are a scam "India excluded" is a good way to just miss out on opportunity. I do acknowledge its a dumb risky move to dump that much in one thing though.

>>10778641
Eh 33 right now. I'm usually risk averse but every once in a while I come across something I am willing to roll a dice on. If it does hit where I think it could go by December I may end up holding even longer just for tax shenanigans.

>AMD premarket 20 dollars
SELL AMD
>INTC 46.50
notworthtrading.exe.jpg.tar

>>10778677
I am invested in bioshits and even some chink companies
Companies, not memes nor tech crap

I think the only chink tech companies worth a damn are Baidu, Alibaba and Tencent. The rest is literally exit scams. It would be interesting to see how many of those small chink tech companies still exist and if they have managed to turn in a profit yet.
But even the BAT are risky in that they (the companies and CEOs) are at the mercy of their commie overlords

Nonetheless, I wish you make it out of this trade unscathed (or richer)

>>10778712
IQ Is one of Baidus top revenue sources. They own like 80-90% of it. If you trust Baidu then by extension you don't mind the streaming platform they own. The CEO is transparent and has a good record, and the company is doing fine. I would agree about it being a scam if it was just "assorted tech" but it is a product with numbers and in fact those numbers are creme of the crop in the entire nation. Producing dozens of hits and expanding its revenue streams. It may dip down for lockup here in a month but after that it should be fine and stable.

>>10778734
I said worth a damn, not that I trust them.

They deserve attention because they are systemic and unavoidable, and thus, subject to heavy ChinkCom scrutiny, which is a big no-no for me.

Besides, it is very common practice for chink big tech to spin-off some of their subsidiaries in order to raise cash from the markets.
And in the case of IQ, they are losing money and I wonder where their expenses go to (chances are back to Baidu's pockets or other of their subsidiaries)

I am wondering myself if IQ is in the end just a chink experiment to create a Netflix-copy subsidized by the US investors.
But, trust your judgement. I didn't do any DD on IQ but I am not attracted at all by those slimy chink memes.

gl m8

You guys want to see some gore?

>-60.37

>>10775040
>thumbnail
fucking disgusting

>>10778818

>>10778835
That's fucking hilarious, but I totally cheered him on.
I ran through a bunch of fundamentals on it.
I wasn't drinking the Kool-aid; I totally helped make it

>>10778818
I stopped out two weeks ago, do you go in without protection?

>>10778853
Truth be told, the partner quitting (and not being PRICE-IN™) was a tail-end event. I find you guys are genuinely unlucky.

But think of it : the contract is still running until 2019. I think management will be busting its ass finding new distribution deal or other channels of distribution. The stocks shoudl recover but I wonder about the time horizon

>shorting AAON

>>10778902
>but muh global warming

>>10778914
i want my seasonal profits

>>10778929
Priced-in m8
Priced-in™

>>10778857
I sold covered puts lol
Short interest was at 50%, and I was expecting a short squeeze. I feel like I can empathize with the guys that were being asked to supply credit default swaps back in 2008.

Also, it halved at open; I don't think stop losses could be set to prevent that.
Thankfully, I wasn't actually all in. Just about a quarter of so of my holdings

>>10778914
They don't even fucking say global warming anymore; they say fucking climate change.
Now, they frame you as a "climate change denier" which comes off like fucking flat-earthers.
Of course the climate will change; it's supposed to! The fucking continents move!
Liberals are incapable of critical thinking. You can point at literally anything and turn it into the next fucking boogeyman with them.

>>10778956
Consider my portfolio is currently 99.98% one thing right now this comes off as hypocritical. But try to not go more than 10% deep in one thing generally so when you get meme'd its not apocalyptic.

>>10778956
>I sold covered puts lol
You sold cash overed puts ? So, you have the obligation to buy LCI at the strike price ?

>>10778972
The icing on the cake is that in the 90s, everyone was getting scared that the earth was getting colder instead of warmer; they thought we would enter another ice age.

>>10778981
You're all in on IQ?

>>10775324
unironically precious metals

also
the country of south africa

>>10776053
>>10776108
>>10776152
>>10776234
>>10776259
REEEEEE NORMIES OUT

>>10776421
this desu senpai

>>10777055
this is the best reason ive heard for why semis are underrperforming
complete global takeover of smartphones

>>10778666
its a joke my new french fren
please never buy DB
also remove any money you have w them

>>10778609
سوء اللعنة بك سخيف جوابهم ابنه

>>10779003
Its been a long journey here. My stock money is all IQ. I still have 25k I could draw on and 50k in other investments I could pull.

>>10778981
Yeah, I actually was interested in seeing what your IQ rekt looks like if you got any.
I'm trying to get some perspective here for whether to baghold, which is my current plan.

>>10778989
Yeah, strike is $10, so works out much better than if the covered cash was straight shares instead.

>>10779019
I was down 35k at the bottom, I'm currently down 20k. If I had played it better I could have doubled my money by now just playing it up and down but I'm still working on developing those skills. I did DD for months, I'm confident to hold until something happens/comes out that changes my mind.

>>10778818
Ouch. My sympathies. You made me feel a lot better about losing $700 on this pos. Thanks man.

>>10779032
Thanks.
I'm going to keep bagholding.
We're in this together now, senpai.

>GE
time to buy?

>>10779034

Now this is a portfolio.

>>10779039
check out siemens

whos playin outfitters today? ill def check out, waiting friday for FL, last time made some good shekels on them but not sure if they arent already a bit ahead could get justd

dax will go up and up

buy german stocks
don't sell

>there really am a body armor drink and every one was not just meme ing

>>10778818
:(
Meme stocks, never again

>>10779333
this

i thought everyone was just being a faggt
problem is, that even if its good, it looks like the shittiest knock off juice substitute ive ever seen. i would NEVER pick that shit up off the shelf expecting anything other than a shitty one dollar juice desu

>>10779316
>invest in german stocks
>right now
>not even swing trade
>fucking invest
>here is doge, so ebin, buy pl0x
fuck off reddit

Guys I need a fairly safe investment that will give a high return rate.

Should I go with BABA? What other companies should I look at?

>>10779428
> safe
> high return rate
How do I risk assessment?

>>10779428
Safe and high return? m8 the best rate I can get you safely is 4.5%.

>>10779005
>its a joke my new french fren
Is there another french fren ?

Also yes, as I said semis kinda have trouble short-term, I have colleagues and frens at GloFo and STM and the prospects are unclear beyond smartphones.

>>10779428
PROTIP:
never buy anything chinese for any reason ever

>>10779456
>>10779448
>>10779461


Okay I realize safe was not the ideal word. What i meant by that is there are tiny biopharm companies being shilled on here which have massive swings. BABA seems a bit more stable although I know it is still risky.

>>10779397
>it looks like the shittiest knock off juice substitute ive ever seen

I always was KO not PEP guy, but the recent buyouts are starting to push me in the opposite direction. Sodastream > Body armour. I know it is silly, but one of the main reasons I don't own any PEP is because I'll pick a coke over pepsi even it costs 50% more.

>>10779460
>Is there another french fren ?
yeah theres at least two others

>I have colleagues and frens at GloFo and STM and the prospects are unclear beyond smartphones.
i imagine this must be a lot of semi meme companies problem rn
they spent so much in the idea that the semis industry would keep growing and theyd be able to keep gobbling up market share
now thats obviously not going to happen, so theyre fucked and blocked out of the rest of the market by their larger competitors

>>10779479
say it with me:
>i will not by chink garbage

believe me, this will save you a lot of money

>CEI mooning premarket!
It's coming boys

Look at the SPY and its indicators. That divergence. Indicators saying down, SPY saying up. Shit don't make no sense.

>>10779521
Is today the day? WEW

>>10779511
Why do you say that? I am not trying to disregard what you are saying, I honestly want to know.

I made a good bit last year on chink tech stocks. I feel like it is hard to ignore the potential growth in Chinkistan.

>>10779479
if you wan't ecoms than try etsy, it could get fucked in the ass if amzn launches something similar, so wait for a dip

>>10779536
I hope my LCI position bagged me hard for some time need some real green

>>10779538
I actually would prefer not another ecom/tech I want to diversify my tardiness a little. Any suggestions in pharm?

>>10779556
>pharm
god no, I only gamble on those, too risky to hold for my taste, well LCI just had a dip

>>10779511
>they spent so much in the idea that the semis industry would keep growing
That's the basis of the whole industry : if the market keeps growing, the price per chip shrinks because 90% of the expenditures in any fab are fixed costs.

Now, the problem is that performances gains from a generation to another are minimal nowadays, and that there's no big new use for chip. STM at least got automotive and alternatives technologies to pure CMOS to survive the downturn, and GloFo got AMD, I'm more worried about Intel getting rekt by AMD/TSMC/GloFo

>>10778972
I live in eastern canada near toronto. We get climate change 4 times a year. We call it winter, spring, summer and autumn. And the earth is flat, that explains why when ever i order something from china it takes forever to get to me, they can't go around a flat earth to deliver the item.

>>10779571
>>10779556

Fuck yall are making me want to go back to boomer tier sector ETF's and call it a day.

>>10779509
pepsi is actual fucking garbage

>>10779537
>I feel like it is hard to ignore the potential growth in Chinkistan.
look harder
absolutely nothing in that country stands up to serious scrutiny
from the businesses to the products to the govt

personally, from watching their debt/corporate bonds, i think theyre headed for a february type event of their own

>>10779536
oils up cuz dollars down
makes sense

>>10779574
very interesting fren
i will take note of this
i think there might be a VERY profitable trade in shorting most of semis and longing the specific ones w the cash on hand to make it through this dry spell (until they figure out the next industry that needs chips en masse)

>>10779599
lol
theres a medium ground between chink garbage/biopharms and boomer low volatility managed ETFs

Will fed do a rate hike now that god emperor hath rebuked Powell? No clue what position to take on TLT next.

>>10779599
go 80% boomer and leave 20% for earnings gambles, if you wan't to find something to invest in try picking out consumer trends and invest accordingly, those chyna stocks are mostly gambles and you can't predict what trump wil say tomorrow or next month so dissapointments can surface quickly. Besides most of china stocks mentioned here are meme stocks like bili, iq, baba, bidu, tchy etc, and that means that nobody knows for sure, thats why there are so many 'me no china' shillers here, youll never know

>>10779637
the FED is a private institution that answers to absolutely no govt
they will do whatever the fuck it is that they feel like doing

ill shoot powpow a text tho and see wats up

>>10779637
yeah, they will hike

>>10779625
>i think there might be a VERY profitable trade in shorting most of semis and longing the specific ones w the cash on hand to make it through this dry spell (until they figure out the next industry that needs chips en masse)
This is a good strategy and that's what I did (kept Soitec because it's litterally the future and the prospects are top-tier).

>>10779649
Solid advice, thanks senpai.

>>10779661
and its actually funny how the economy is doing so great and the job growth is so tremendous and huge but in the same time he bashes fed for not pumpin mo monee

>>10779428
Buy LCI

>>10779637
im torn on TLT too
intl FUD could push it up
bet FED could knock it down
and theyve already been on a big run in nearterm
then theres also the question of if intl panicsellers come over here, why would they buy the 30yr at a time they know theres interest rate hikes?
why not go for something shorter term that wont get bogged to hell an back?
the yields are almost the same

>>10779637
Yeah, I don't see why the FED would give a single fuck about Trump.

>>10779673
That growth is pretty much fueled by deficit spending, makes sense that he needs inflation to cover up the tacks.

Just saw a comment from a guy that said S&P is just a guy holding in his diarrhea who will eventually shit himself.

Beautiful.

>>10779673
i like the goychair desu
powell seems to not overcomplicate things in his speeches, and for once i unironically stand by what the FED seems to be trying to do (de-leverage us and all our corporations softly)

the tax cuts and all the other trump reform at the beginning of the term allowed us some serious leeway to start adjusting things back to normal
if we get out of this without a collapse, it will almost be like 08 never even happened in a macro sense

>>10779676
>LCI

>>10779713
>if we get out of this without a collapse
Powell should get medal for this

>>10779537
Also, I think one of the biggest trap in valuing tech companies is "metrics"
Tech is all about the number of users and sure China has a lot of them

But how much valuable data can we extract out of them ? And for how much can we sell it ? I think the price of the data is dependant on the disposable income level of the Chinese people and I don't think it is that high. Plus, just like in the West, who do you sell the data to ? Baidu, Alibaba and Tencent and there is a high chance they will cap the data purchase price (and that is forgetting the ChinkCom threat on those systemic companies)

If Powell hikes rates will dollar moon? When is he likely to hike?

>>10779727
>I think the price of the data is dependant on the disposable income level of the Chinese people and I don't think it is that high
China is trying to turn their economy from sweatshop-tier to SK-tier, I wouldn't dismiss that so quickly.

>>10779625
this

>>10779727
Fuck "user" tech. Unless it's a monopoly or something like amazon it's pointless.

"Twitter" technology is a joke for instance.

Does anyone invest in 3d printing? health/consumer idc.

>>10779727
Very valid points but I also think that Alibaba is more diversified than I think a lot of people realize. It is not like they are only doing one thing they have an unbelievable amount of potential in multiple areas.

>>10779669
yea i might be a little late, huh?

>>10779724
if im right and this is actually what the FED is doing, ill take back literally every bad thing ive ever said about the central banking system.

ill also help them kill ron paul once and for all

>>10779739
its not quite that simple.
at first, after a long break of not hiking rates, yes the dollar will moon
however this eventually stops being the case if we look at historical data. so its not quite that simple
but also, rn we have QT which is capping inflation (which is my logic for why the dollar is invincible rn). so every other currency is evaporating as per usual, but ours ISNT, thus making it appear to "moon"

idk, its all very complicated and i wish i went to fucking school for it desu senpai

This NDX - SPX divergence getting crazy
Am thinking SPY gonna follow NDX down today

>>10779780
I have positions on commodities and want to enter position on TLT. No positions in forex, but gold has recently been getting shreckt by dollar moon so I was wondering.

>>10779657
I think Emperor Trump will ask uncle Powell for a short reprieve in his tightening (to help him win the midterms and for the negotiations with the chinks)
I still think Emperor Trump's goal is to deleverage the economy

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/discount-broker-stocks-fall-after-report-jp-morgan-will-offer-free-trades-2018-08-21
guys...

>>10779787
Do you think your ability to change preferences to guro is unique to general intelligence mechanisms?

For instance footfags are pretty locked in via static triggers. Your preferences likely developed via general association training using your more higher level generalized processes in brain (vague way to state this)

>>10779800
>I still think Emperor Trump's goal is to deleverage the economy
He wouldn't have done that tax reform if it was the case. That was a textbook populist move.

>>10779780
Don't you motherfucking touch Ron

>>10779720
No, it was unironic
You buy the fear

>>10779813
Higher taxes are bad for the economy

>>10779817
What makes you think it will bounce back higher?

Rate my normiefolio:

> MJJ 25%
> TSLA 25%
> BABA 25%
> GS 12.5%
> X 12.5%

>>10779787
glad someones paying attention

i said short tech this week and everyone looked at me like i had 3 heads and 2 dicks
daq looks like absolute hell

>>10779796
imo the bonds that are likely to be bought up by intl investors seeking safe haven are the shorter term ones like 10yr and under. those will be MUCH less affected by rate hikes, and like i said yields are similar

my golden bull thesis is agcoms but its almost harvest rn, so youre late. oil might move again, but its also winter.
i fully expect gold and silver to be delisted and go OTC

>>10779800
and the FED will spit in his face and continue to do whatever they want. its the fucking FED

but i dont think trump was trying to delev us. i think its the FED.

>>10779816
lol
fine, rand then
paul blood must be spilled to appease the central banking demons

>>10779817
>>10779840

I ask because I may legit buy.

>>10779819
And tax cuts while on massive deficit spending are populist, and are the exact opposite of deleveraging the economy.
Tax cuts are good, only if you reduce expenses as well. Small government all the way, not populist socialism like he did.

>>10779855
about to get BTFO/10

Am I playing too little or is €4 to buy €100 of stock too much? Using dememo

>>10779744
I can assure you that it is still far away
Ultimately, China's population is still far from being developped because their wealth preservation system is shit.
I believe this is what separate developped countries from poverty shitholes.

>>10779749
>>10779773
I also believe Alibaba is better placed than Baidu and Tencent. Fucking Alipay is everywhere. You can buy BABA just for this shit.
But
A very big risk is that : the government might view BABA as a competitor and rekt it.

As for tech companies in general, I think it is already a boomer-tier sector. You buy the sector's blue chips and that's it

>>10779865
Why?

>>10779866
Both. You can probably find a better euro broker.

>>10779807
100 trades.

>>10775324
SHLD is a bankruptcy exit scam at the moment, but it's already so low that there isn't much money to be made going short on it

reminder, niggers have stock tips these days, it's time to cash the fuck out.

>>10779875
>25% TSLA (legit enron scenario still on the table)
>25% BABA (chink garbage)
>25% MJJ (pot stocks at ATHs)
>12.5% GS (i got no problem w this desu)
>12.5% X (i see what youre goin for w trade FUD but i also think that more tariffs will happen)

>>10779875
TSLA going to 0.

>>10779397
dax 30 are the best stocks

>>10779912
MorganSt just stopped coverage on TSLA. Most obviously advising a party in the take private.

>>10779912
umm listen sweetie, the tesla is the car of the future and this is the equivalent of buying ford at 1929 prices.

Rate my portfolio

30% BABA
20%MGK
20%VCR
20% VHT
10%- haven't decided

what's with the BABA meme? Do you think guys it's the next AMZN?

>>10779929
Tesla is a portion of the future. It's not quite the same. Stock would be 800 if autonomous driving wasn't a thing. That's the only thing suppressing the value.

>>10779929
How can Tesla being the car of the future if it's already technologically 10 years behind its competitors ?

Plan 4 2 day
Gonna step back and not trade today probably

Have order for short going but will be mostly looking at forex

>>10779908
Thank you. I honestly never expected any anon to actually explain something instead of insulting blindly.

>>10779556
buy GALT

>>10779866
Euro exchanges are expensive no matter what broker.

there is no conviction, feds gonna stop the bull.

>>10779949
>competitors
>ICE companies doing low volume as fuck shitbox EV that the dealers do everything they can not to sell

The auto system collapses on trying to switch. I've already looked into and solved everything related to it.

buy dax 30

>>10779957
Why GALT? Can I get a little info in the next 30 minutes?

>>10779840
Well, you should take ideas from here because there are legit good ideas (AMRS *wink*)
But alway do your own research

My reasoning is this:
LCI tanked hard because a contract will not be renewed
But the contract ends in 2019 so business and cash flows should remain the same for the time being
I don't think management will sit on its ass and wait for death
It will either look for other partners or sell itself

The short-term variable is if LCI has any liquidity problem because it has a huge debt load.

At this price, LCI is worth a try (but don't go all in)

>>10779856
I don't know how tight Emperor Trump and uncle Powell are but I believe Trump chose him on purpose

>>10779813
FED tightening means less money in circulation
So, Trump cut taxes to keep the money in circulation PLUS the hope that the money will be used for reinvestment
The key point is productivity
You can print all the money you want in the world as long as productivity follows

There is a very nice video by Ray Dalio on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHe0bXAIuk0

>>10779984
Promising drugs for NASH and cancer, a lot of interest from rich people, it's starting a trend reversal and went up 12% yesterday

>>10779951
I've only ever traded USD, EURO, and YEN. What pairs ya looken at?

So what do you guys thing? Bloody Tuesday or Boring Tuesday?

>>10779856
I'm already long wheat lol

>>10779954
lurk moar
im always handing out my unbiased opinion
unlike the rest of this board which is all drive-by opinions, this general is unironically fucking good

>>10779921
yeah if you live in the fucking EUSSR (and even then eastern europe and other parts of central europe look better imo over longterm. gemany is fucked)
hope you like capital gains taxes
the EU will not be around much longer senpai
i said it before, and ill say it again

>>10779966
Basically dealerships collapse, they don't like selling EV. Lose huge source of revenue. Car companies are selling at loss for EV. The massive glut of ICE that goes unsold during switch basically destroys the finances of dealerships/auto companies.

At a time when they all crunch for battery supply that doesn't exist.

Even if you think tsla goes bankrupt the brand would survive and in that case have even less debt and a big buyer like apple/google. LOL.

Autos are so fucking dead to people with good predictive models. It's not even funny how infantile the tesla shorts arguments are to my brain.

>>10779998

>>10779995

I have 5% to gamble. Should I go GALT or LCI?

>>10779995
>So, Trump cut taxes to keep the money in circulation
Therefore he does the exact opposite of deleveraging the economy, thanks for admitting it.

>>10779980
pic related, it's germany for the next 6 to 18 months. i mean at least the cac 40 has a chance for growth but the dax you're literally asking anon to burn his money.

>>10780025
LCI is fucked, go GALT

>>10780019
yea i bought this dip
just remember that harvest will likely knock it down

keep an eye on wheat report dates so you can get out before its all harvested
https://www.uswheat.org/harvest-archive/

>>10779966
>>10780024
I want to remind you that Renault and Nissan sell twice as much EVs than Tesla, and at a profit.
Plus, those manufacturers have a whole range of EVs, compered to Tesla (1 roadster)

>>10780026
Err no
Because the FED raised the interest rate, making debt refinancing more expensive (and thus reducing in overall the amount of debt in circulation)
BUT less debt = less revenues for others so Trump looks for ways to keep the money flowing

Just watch Ray Dalio's video.

>>10780057
I don't want to argue. Time.

>>10780025
At this point I can't help you
Make your own choice

If you haven't read GALT's clinical trial report, you are basically gambling on it. NASH is the hottest meme in bioshits right now

>>10780028
why that?

>>10779880
>>10779960
Thanks for replies will consider

>>10780024
>Car companies are selling at loss for EV
lol no
The only company doing it is Tesla, because they are fucking lagging behind in manufacturing tech.

>>10780030
Buy high sell low. Got it

AMD vs NVDA

Who will perform better from now to Q2 2019?

>>10780024
>implying the united states government won't just throw a ton dollars into the dumpster fire that is electric cars after the november blue wave

>>10780084
leaf is pretty low volume especially in US

>>10780095
GALT isn't peaking right now, it's just starting to break out

are we going to get a buy-able midterm election dip or not?

>>10779922
You realize MS is the most consistently bearish firm on TSLA, right?

>>10780066
>i'm right you're wrong, screw facts. Thought vectors XD
How'd those 350 calls work out?

>>10780057
>Plus, those manufacturers have a whole range of EVs, compered to Tesla (1 roadster)
???

oh I'm being trolled, nvm

>>10780131

senate wont happen, house is a possibility.
>veto

>>10780155
There are enough arguments out there. Do you think I could convince you?

>>10780155
listen sweetie, after TSLA goes private all the bears are going to be btfo, and the funding is secured by the united states government, the name's going to change to Company of United Non-capitalist Tesla and Spaceforce Motors, or CUNTS Motors for short.

>>10780180
Both Renault and Nissan sell their whole range of vehicles, from shitboxes to construction trucks, as EVs.

>>10780019
keep an eye on wheat though
if it shows signs of continued consolidation, even as the dollar pulls back, im out and flipping short

ill prolly post something when i do desu
i dont wanna nuke everyone trading wheat

but i do think theres a distinct possibility that inflation will come back hard after QT and monetary policies change more/stop working. and i still think that all of commodities are going to run due to inflation

>>10780199
I wanted to buy a renault, but it's near impossible to get one at the right price here in america unless you want to import the fucker your self.

>>10780226
My company made the battery tech used by Renault, it's pretty fucking solid.

USO up 1.24% in PM guys i hope all you guys threatening to kill yourselves learned your lesson

keep an eye on OVX and DXY from now on

>>10780186
No, because my opinion is fact based But let's completely ignore facts and engage your argument in a vacuum. The error in your logic is equating Tesla with EV trends. Consumers are fickle, if Tesla loses its luster, people will dump it and move onto the next hot item. It might already be happening. Any other EV maker could end up being sexier. Tesla could become Subway to the new guys Chipotle/Panera or the Greek yogurt to Porsche/Lucid Icelandic yogurt.

>>10780197
lol. the government "saved" GM but the stock still went to 0. I wouldn't hold my breadth for a bailout. Everyone knows SpaceX would work better without Elon. He's a salesman, not a visionary.

>>10780252
I actually don't understand why Musk didn't make a partnership with someone who actually knew how to manufacture cars. His incompetence in manufacturing is pretty showing, but it could have been a huge hit if a big US car manufacturer had a EV line.

It is now time for my portfolio to rise from the phoenix ashes.

>>10780277
>implying other american manufacturers aren't already developing their own EVs.

>>10780277
Narcissistic Personality Disorder. The sell side shill on CNBC this morning was talking about how Tesla was revolutionizing production like that narrative hadn't been disproved in Q1/Q2. It's pretty insulting to baggies how stupid people think they are...though maybe not, they are still buying while institutions dump.

>>10779039
Never. GE is SHIT. I used to work there. Bunch of sissies and liberals who have no clue how to make a goddamn thing. They literally drink at work.

>>10780105
Invest in both anon

>>10780295
You have now missed MU.
Past this point it gets riskier.

>>10780325
doesn't MU have a PE of like 2

look at that gap down on TLT, my dick is hard like gypsum.

>>10780298
Of course they are, but Musk is a good salesman, and had alreay media clout before he went into Tesla. Imagine a Tesla-Ford Mustang.

>>10780311
>used to work as a consultant in a missile factory
>if someone talked about work during lunch, he had to buy a bottle of wine and share it with the whole table
Keep in mind, lunches were at least 1h long, and the whole team ate together.
We still did good work

>>10780334
yea but it's highly under fair price.
I compare it to intel but MU had a much much much higher IPO so the all time is worse than intel

plus MU gots no div; but that's cool
if trade war were gone we'd see the money flood back in

>>10780105
It would be easier for AMD to go up because the stock is so cheap. NVDA has a lot of x factors because the stock is so much higher

>>10780252
>Everyone knows SpaceX would work better without Elon. He's a salesman, not a visionary.

It was a this point I knew you were talking out of your ass... the whole point of Musk's personality cult is that he is undeniably, a visionary. SpaceX would run fine with day to day operations if Musk wasn't in the picture; but the whole reason SpaceX is so incredibly popular is the goal of getting to Mars, which is Musk's vision... without him they would just be another launch service provider, and would likely be crushed in the future by Blue Origin who has the backing of Bezos...

>>10780372
>but the whole reason SpaceX is so incredibly popular
So what ? Popularity with the plebs doesn't buy you contracts, and they will still get crushed by other launch service providers if they don't hold up to the reliability or price of their competitors, popularity or not.

>LCI

New
>>10780417
>>10780417
>>10780417
>>10780417

>>10780302
there are 100 EVs coming to market with better tech and margins

TSLA was a cool 2010 story, but instead of being a cool niche car company Musk fell for the le genius meme

>>10780372
Let me rephrase that, anyone with any sense knows Musk is full of shit. Normies and people who don't have an engineering degree think he is a "visionary". You confirmed my point. SpaceX is successful because Musk sells it. Difference between visionary and salesman? Reality. Name one success Musk has had based on his own efforts/intellect and not the people around him + people throwing money at him. He was kicked out of Paypal by people with sense, stole Tesla from the owners and missed deadlines for a fucking decade while trying to start SpaceX. Every single time he was bailed out by people throwing more money at him.

>>10780149
AOBC
Sell before 2020

>>10780444
This, actually.
The thing is, you can't do b2b based on popularity, you do it based on results.