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>>10746763
Kek
Me just finished reading latest Market Wizards, before that it was into to A.I.
Right now reading a bunch of python stuff .

Kek, me should not have kids because there very good chance will pass genetic illness to them :(
That the main problem

That other stuff weird x.xwhat was last book you read?

>>10746794
Yes! First indicator you should learn how program is MACD 100%
Preferably in python but pine works too ..

>>10746871
No!
China bad, America good!
>>10746879
I'm sorry cripple waifu, you cannot bear my children. My genetics for mental problems + your genetics for physical problems would make their lives hell

>>10746864
Fifth for Musk man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MevKTPN4ozw

I had a dream about someone from /smg/ tracking me down and taking pictures of me and posting them here. Please do not do that.

>>10746871
what's good tonight on bili?

>>10746953
my shorts are still going strong

>>10746943
had a nightmare about a weird looking Chihuahua
I blame Fab5Guy

>>10746982
I know the exacat chihuahua you are referring too

What is your goys take on buying calls or shorts on TLT this month? I was thinking of buying calls as a bearish position on the broader market for 30 days and selling a week before the FED raises rates.

>>10746962
good for you

>>10746865
>what was last book you read?
I don't really read books very much.
I've skimmed a bit of one of those O'Reilly's books -- Python for Finance
Mainly for the section on using pandas for series data.

I think the last book that I read in entirety was How to Win Friends and Influence People.
I read at least 3/4 of The Art of War, and then I started The Power of Habit.
I prefer learning by doing a bit more, but you've made me realize that I should try to get back into reading actual books.

>>10747104
Start with the Greeks

>>10746871
Taiwan number 1!!! CAO NI MAH!!!

>>10747104
Read:
>a random walk down wall street
>The dictators handbook
>Szunny Zao china man
>corporate warriors

Ultimate red pills

Does anyone have any free PDFs they care to recommend for beginners to read?

>>10747135
The Greeks? kek
My reading wishlist includes Aristotle's Rhetoric, Machiavelli's The Prince, and finishing Sun Tzu's The Art of War if that's what you mean.
But I don't want to read shit like Beowulf and The Odyssey if that's where you were heading... Although Dante's Inferno seems pretty based.

>>10747104
>>10746879
sorry to brake in to your cuddlez but I certainly suggest Sapiens a brief history of humankind by Yuval Harari, it covers a lot about capitalism and the history of business&stocks, just finished and its really basic but good book that provides a lot insights which can help in investing too. Suddenly felt a urge to buy some CRSP.

>>10747193
I'm telling you man, this book is the ultimate red pill

>>10746921
Did anyone seriously buy TSLA at $380 thinking it was going to hit a PT of $420?

>>10747162
>random walk
Sorry, but
>vomiting_anime_girl.png

>>10747184
teh profit had a bunch in the 8ch bunker.

>>10747194
>sorry to brake in to your cuddlez but I certainly suggest Sapiens a brief history of humankind by Yuval Harari
History is the best teacher.
>it covers a lot about capitalism and the history of business&stocks, just finished and its really basic but good book that provides a lot insights which can help in investing too.
Cool.
>Suddenly felt a urge to buy some CRSP.
Oh. Not so helpful with investing advice then.

>>10747207
Looks Machiavellian.
I like it.

Heheheh

https://twitter.com/TruthGundlach/status/1030558361295630336

>reading anything but Fiction-Mystery
never gonna make it

>>10747229
if musk hadnt chickend then with the short covering it probably could have hit that number

>>10747236
What is wrong with that mans face?

first for tripfags are cancer

>>10746953
Looks like "Cells at Work!" is all the rage on BILI senpamalam

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/2160232/why-new-japanese-anime-series-cells-work-big-hit-china-its

>all that redditposting last night
well someones got to keep the thread going during off hours, and its already the weekend for foreigners too, so they alone couldnt keep it going
>>10747104
>I don't really read books very much.
dude, you have internet access, and probably a phone with it too

how do you not read a few hours worth of crap a day? in 2018?

>>10747162
>>10747162
>>a random walk down wall street
the bell curve is better in every way
>>The dictators handbook
just read The Prince if you really want to learn
>>Szunny Zao china man
art of war is great, and applicable to any "struggle" in life
>>corporate warriors
sounds like a "blue pill" manual to me
pic related is better, written by a true success in business, and a /biz/ poster

>>10747248
>>reading anything but Fiction-Mystery
while a lucid mind and open imagination is helpful, without non-fiction, youre better off just reading picture books for children

10745997
>trip/namefags are like trump, cancer
people who do nothing but hate on tripfags, instead of contributing to the thread, are worse

besides, it make it easy to know which persons advice you should use, and whos trolling

MMJ on the TSX market is waiting for health canada approval.

I'll do my DD before buying

so what is everyones favorite TA?
least reliable TA?
Unknown/least understood TA?

and more importantly, how big do you like your candles, 1min? 1 hr? 1 day?

>>10747496
I am a Buffett-sama memester
I trust fore annd foremost muh fundamentals

I only use TA to get an ok entry:
Heikin Ashi
Ichimoku Clouds
Bollinger bands
MAs
RSI
MACD
Daily over 6 months

>>10747496

>vwap
>volumes

3min candles

>>10747578
This so much omfg !!
But me use 2 min lines with wicks only

>>10747496
Swing trader mostly. Usual chart setup:

>bollinger bands
>CCI (mainly for entries)
>MACD
>Stochastic RSI (mainly for exits as a leading indicator of the MACD direction)
>RSI
>will check moving averages occasionally just to make sure stock isn't about to encounter some moving average related problem level. Bbands have the 20 day as center line by default.

I use 4hr, daily, and weekly candles. If i'm about to make an entry or exit within an hour, I will consult shorter time frames and level 2 just to confirm i'm not going to get dumped on instantly.

>>10747496
>least reliable TA?

Stochastic RSI on anything shorter than daily timeframe will produce a bunch of false indicators. CCI shouldn't be used as a buy/sell indicator by itself.

>>10747626
always liked your charts rkg

>i did try to make that TPO but all I can output is VAH, VAL and POC

>>10747755
*false signals

>>10747496
trumps tweets and joe rogans podcast

RSI, MACD, BB, some SMA and studying ichimoku

>>10747234
Total investing newfag here, I just started Random Walk and like it so far, learning a lot.
What about it makes you vomiting_anime_girl.png?

>>10747875
when finish try also reminiscences of a stock operator the latest edition

>>10747875
Because random walk am typical fud fir scare normies away from trading

>>10747764
T-ty
Surprised you were able for get any TPO sone, though it was CBOE data only

Please answer this survey:
What is the brand of Coffee maker you own?
For me, its Keurig
Curious as to how many people own a 'Mr. Coffee'

>>10748097
cold coffee brew in jars :(

>>10748097
i have a keurig for k-cups and a cuisinart for pots

>>10748097

Hamilton Beach? I think? That's my regular one. Also have aeropress if i have freshly roasted beans and want something nicer in exchange for slightly more effort to brew.

>>10748050
I agree that random walk is FUD for normie traders, but by in large what it says is accurate, correct?

>>10748050

there are some published market profile indis and they came with the same output as mine. it was hell to code tho.

>>10748097

bialletti moka pot

>>10748097
I don't drink Coffee
I don't like the taste, and I have a Vyvanse prescription, so I have no reason to use it as a stimulant
Caffeine is nothing compared to amphetamines
They wake you up better, help you focus throughout the day, and enable you to masturbate nonstop for 12 hours

>>10748214
cocaine is a hell of a drug

>>10748214
lol I have an adderall prescription, but you need to take like year long breaks or youll die
9 months into break here, will be refilling soon

The Millionaire Next Door, this book is a boomer's guide to "thinking like a boomer," right?

>>10747496
I like drawing pictures

>>10748097
SBUX instant packets I got as a christmas gift

Who's wen here?

go long on anime feet

>>10748540
Anime feet make me go long

>>10740673
>#1
Where's my trophy?

See you plebs later I'm on the way to lamboland

>>10748570

>>10748686
Thanks!

Not sure what you mean by total loss though

>>10748097
phillips

>>10748715
Oi mr bear, do you have any opinions on TLT with the Fed raising rates on September 20th?

>>10748448
Me finally found some wendy guro
She was suffocated here kek

Looks pretty happy about dying though >_>

>>10748785
I don't understand the killing thing. It's so permanent, it's just a quick release.
Why not years of sexual slavery?

>>10747207
>Wall Street Journal quote on the cover that recommends the book
I'm fucking sold. I love WSJ.

>>10748448
Did I hear somebody bring up best girl?

>>10747440
>>I don't really read books very much.
>dude, you have internet access, and probably a phone with it too
>how do you not read a few hours worth of crap a day? in 2018?
I said books -- BOOKS -- I read tons of stuff, just little patience for books, which tend to be a heavy time commitment on topics tangentially related to what is pertinent to my life at a given time.
I like your posts btw :) pls keep namefigging
The Bible is actually pretty good for life lessons, and one of your posts made me realize that.

>>10746864
>he doesn't use Roth IRA to invest in dividend stocks tax free making truckloads of passive income

Point at him and laugh.

>>10748903
WSJ is great, i just resent the pay wall but understand why they did it

i hope you all understand that reading shit blindly with out investigating into the author of the shit is worse than watching capitalist propaganda fox news.

>>10749068
t. anti intellectual intellectual
Pathetic

>>10748785
Have you ever heard of Bob Hunt? Looking for interesting futures pros to follow

>>10747875
Mostly the FUD for normie traders is what I was going for.
I haven't read it, but it seems very nihilistic. It gives me the impression that it advocates for "you might as well just go all in on SPY cuz there's no way you'll beat that long-term" and grab onto blissful ignorance in an almost anti-intellectualist manner
>>10748181
>I agree that random walk is FUD for normie traders, but by in large what it says is accurate, correct?
Renaissance Technologies has averaged 60% ROI for over 2 decades. So that almost completely disproves the random walk theory.

>>10748214
I've been on Vyvanse/Adderall for over a decade, mostly 50mg to 60mg
I tried 70mg for a week within the past month and hit paranoid delusions.
Now I've decided to back down to 50s and see how well I can contribute to society.
>>10748241
I don't think I've ever taken a break for more than a few months... Not more than a week within the past 5 years.

>>10748329
I think it's more about just living frugally. I think it's more just insight into the reality of what the millionaire lifestyle is... I think it's roughly the way I fucking live kek

>>10748357
I love it. Kek

>>10749068
Kek this too
>first book ne ever read was: Investing With Your Gut by Curtis Faith
>thought was good so tried some "turtle method" with crypto
>it didn't work
>read up on author
>he is currently in jail for investment fraud

Kek life lessons

>>10749106
I'm on 40 mg, and the side effects are minimal, other than the masturbation

>>10749032
Now that I make the big boy bucks, I proudly suck it up and pay them. I refuse to pay for cable though.
I think there's a good one or two year deal for students.

>>10749106
You should really read the book desu before passing such harsh judgement The Author doesn't claim no one can beat the market, one firm beating it doesn't disprove the over all arch of the book

>>10748097
Tea is better
Adderall too

>another vote for reminiscences
>another vote for art of war
>dark pools

also enjoyed ernie chan, taleb

>>10748892
People are cuties when they dying / dead kek
Me dunno

>>10749099
The last good futures pro me knew just went pay only
The demand for furus right now high

It hard for find good ones who are free

>>10749191
Sad. Good think the auto TA bot on trading view is 100% right all the time, right?

>>10749191
>speaking of people going pay only
>this guro artist now charges $1k+ for commissions and he is booked all year
LITTERALLY first thing me will go when make it an buy guro commissions @_@

Probably going to try livestreaming again tonight.
I have totally been getting too ambitious with this shit.
I don't know what time, and no promises of higher production value, but I'm going to go through all of last week's feedback and fiddle much more with OBS beforehand.
I also got a better rig for running the stream off of.
Twitch: ScoopsDa34th

Teh Profit recommended this site for looking at unusual options activity. Pretty interesting desu
https://www.barchart.com/options/unusual-activity

get some cheap cattle futures since grain is so damn expensive and there will be a run on beef in december
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUwxKWT6m7U

>>10749209
What bot x.x

>>10749274
THIS live cattle looking to break out HARD
Enjoy your burgers while they cheap

>>10749158
Good tastes
Pic related are also good, honorable mention for the hitchhikers guide to the Galaxy books too

Should I just buy a bunch of TEVA? Warren Buffett keeps buying it and it has strong financial performance.

>>10749302
nice cat

>>10749290
here's a good guro pic for you, rkg
opinions on investing in water?

I was doing so good for the last 3 weeks and now all of my motivation has evaporated. Can't even bring myself to play vidya or watch anything. REeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>10749290
The technical section of any stock page
https://www.tradingview.com/symbols/AMEX-SPY/
>100% correct

It looks like big boys are loading up BIDU calls. I might try to integrate barcharts into my super technical robintrack strategy and go long since it has a good pattern

>>10749302
good kitty!

>>10749302
she's a crier, hates change probably disturbs you when you're doing anything.

>>10749319
create a scaricity in the market and have the future contract to deliver said material.

>>10749250

is this updated EOD?

>>10749364
it's how the mafia made enough money to still run american inner cities.

>>10749319
Clouds, the things floating around everywhere are LITERALLY made of water

>>10749334
No ones buying bibi

>>10747229
I bought puts @ 380. Was pretty painful as I also had a short but my Sept 21 300 puts have quintupled in value since then.

>>10748097
Bodium french press. would recommend, this thing fucks.

>>10749405
everything is natural, even these chemicals that are synthetic and billions of dollars spent to R&D still have natural derivatives that are ultimately natural in origin.

Nature is cyclical, look at everything, insects are the greatest way to watch nature, they have cycles. The cicada has a cycle that takes years, and mother nature well it is cruel. The bugs get eaten which gives birth to larger populations, which end up fighting and the top dominating species reign supreme. This species ends up producing too much off spring during the cycle and ends up having a harsh future as they ultimately resort to cannibalism.

>>10748960
>I like your posts btw :) pls keep namefigging
>The Bible is actually pretty good for life lessons, and one of your posts made me realize that.
^_^ thanks!

exodus reads exactly like a military commander's personal journal if youre looking for a good one to read (or read a wikipedia summary about)
the book of Job also reads like a legal argument, with the devil acting as a prosecutor

and sampson and elisha regularly murdered hundreds in the bible too
elisha even summoned bears to come from the forests to kill "42 youths"
sampson just used a donkeys jawbone to kill "1000 men" on one occasion

and its hard to namefag, when its an absolute cancer on 99% of boards on 4chan

plus between anon and phone posting its easier to deflect criticism ;)

wheres my entertainment

>>10749491
you do understand the old testament was written entirely by jews right

>>10749525

>you do understand the new testament was written entirely by jews right

>>10749525
>muh Jews

>>10749550
>>10749553
i'm looking forward to yom kippur, i'm a bad person

>>10749334
>>10749313
Thankyou!

>>10749347
*he, and yea he's mouthy, used to mimic every single thing my dog did
hell he'd even pick fights with my doggy , and win, and he was a 90lb black lab/german shepherd mix

now kitty just follows me everywhere i go, meowing a bunch

>>10749568
For me its samhain

Can someone recommend me a penny stocks trader simulator?

>>10749636
Poloniex pr Binance

Try refuting this video, capitalists:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXRl5ZgDwPM&t=30s

>>10749690
I think this was already posted, and it's just as cringe the second time

I'm starting to get the feeling that no company wants to buyout HMNY.

>>10749328
That's how I feel without Adderall ;_;

>>10749378
Cool
>>10749364
This is brilliant

>>10749525
Of course it was lol everybody in the Bible is Jewish until Jesus comes along.
In fact, the old testament is basically the talmud, to my understanding

>>10749568
Why?
I don't understand other religion's holidays

>>10749835
If AMC did, it would've happened a very long time ago.
My start-up in college had twice the market cap that HMNY currently does and I never had a single fucking sale.

>>10749882
Could you please tell us about your start-up?

>>10749882
Perhaps HMNY has half the market cap that your start-up had, but it's well-endowed with meme magic.

>>10749882
yom kippur is the day we get the clean slate and have been forgiven for everything, ready to go on and do more mischievous things.

>>10749953
literally encouraging the investment into a failed buisiness that even if it wants to recoup has to give analytics and data over, bleeds capital creates more shares to pay the executives who ultimately understand there is nothing left to doo but fire people and convince more people to buy the piece of shit... dilution, more exit capital than sustainable income. It's like they are worse than any greek shipping meme, at least the vessels are worth something, this piece of shit is literally liberals in front of a computer.

>>10750142
I should be happy though, I did buy them for like 3 cents and soold them for 4.5 cents

>>10750142
for the record if you want data and analysis buy it from google or facemajigger

>>10749882
how do I get adderall

>>10750185
you have to be retarded and talk to your doctor

amphetamines are legal stimulants and i don't know why it's legal to give these to kids

So someone asked for a story or two and I said sure. I have a few old short stories that I can share every now and again https://ghostbin.com/paste/b7cw8 My best stuff is longer, more of a novel guy. Hopefully one day I'll finish one instead of starting another, but this short story is special as it was the first one I wrote.

>>10750199
I have a comically short attention span under some circumstances, maybe I could get the paper signed for that?

>>10750314
;_;

>>10750338
like every time I've tried to watch anime for like the last year I end up tabbing out and forgetting about it for days at a time, I haven't finished anything since spring 2017 kek

>>10750362
but for some reason I'm able to focus on doing schoolwork really well, and have been obsessively following my trading for about 10 months now

Any book recommendations for investing and trading for a noob

>>10750357
You ok?

>>10750357
Hi there, don't kill yourself.

Who else is shorting buffet companies guessing when he dies. Instant money

almost barbie time

>>10750757
Fugg which one are we watching again? The mermaid one?

>>10750757

>>10750767
Mermaidia
I woke up early from my nap for this

>>10750791
H-how about the nutcracker?? I can't find a free Mermaidia

>>10750791
Or princess and the pauper. Those are your choices

>>10750827
Nutcracker nutcracker! My sister had that one on VHS when we were kids!

>>10750827
>>10750839
*sigh*
Nutcracker me

>>10750895
ballet is amazing, you should watch a show once or twice.

lets watch dogma

>>10751022
i had a few nutcracker fieldtrips as a kid, its awesome

comfy, what is room called

>>10750888
>>10750895
>>10751022
>>10751038
link to movie night, pre show now and movie starts in 5 minutes

>>10751022
I went to a production of it once since my parent's gay friend directed it. Dance of the Sugarplum Fairys is GOAT

Holy shit! I just figured something out! This whole thread...... this whole thread!!! is full!! full of retarded niggers

>>10751181

>pot
>kettle

>>10751050
what movie you showing? why should i stray away from my usual movie spots? what do you have to offer?

>>10751305
fuk off cunt

>barbie movie, again

well luckily i got work tomorrow morning, so no barbie for me

>>10749926
>Be me
>Have friend running a campus student org for start-ups
>Asks me to do a presentation for some event
>Have idea for cybersecurity product
>Do presentation on this product, mainly as a favor
>VC guy was there
>VC guy says afterwards he wants to talk
>Ok, time to start running with this silly cybersecurity product idea
>Have a roommate who took a full-time offer with Google
>Naturally, make him my first co-founder
>Wrote maybe 100 lines of code; not a lot
>Go to VC guy's office to talk
>Bring Google roommate
>Kind of just wanted him their for an intimidation factor
>VC guy offers me 10 grand for a 5% stake
>Wtf. This is 10 grand for a fucking meme that I pulled out of my ass.
>Free money, right?
>Tell roommate that works for Google
>He says to turn down the offer
>This guy has his life together and makes better life choices than me, so trust his instincts
>Tell VC guy "no"
>VC guy doubles his offer -- 20 grand for 5% stake
>That's a 400k market cap
>HMNY (moviepass.com) is under 200k right now
>Never even had a single sale for this broken ass product
>Tell roommate that works for Google
>He says to turn down the offer
>Tell VC guy "no"
>Nothing ever comes of it

>>10751397
Come to movie night!

>>10749953
I never had a fucking sale though. Moviepass has millions of subscribers.

>>10749989
Oh, that one.
Yeah, I always suspected it to be a major reason why Jews seem to have no feeling of shame or guilt, only greed and lust -- you purge all your guilt on a single day in a grand form of catharsis

>>10750185
ADHD.
Been on that shit for over 10 years.

>>10751407
Give me a few minutes. I just got home.
Scored a new monitor for 30 bucks.

>>10751337
thanks for that well thought out answer

Still time for this TNA rocket. Easy 1-2 month hold.

>>10751428
>ADHD

How often you take breaks from adds?
I try to go one day without em a week, but hasn't been so good about it
And I've heard horror stories about people who had no breaks for a decade, and are completely fuck for life after that

T. I got ADD and on 30mg a day for couple years now

>>10748785
Source?

i started convincing old boomers on the shuttle bus that i read at a 3rd grade level and i'm clinically retarded. i've got 23 days to go and when i'm tired of answering questions about my personal life i just tell them i have autism and social interaction is uncomfortable for me.

convinced another group that every driver is part of a prison release program and we're paying back our debt to society via a public-private partnership.

most of these people are dumber than shit

spy up or down monday?

>>10747013
I feel sorry for the suckers who might have FOMOd at $19

That was the time to double down on shorting

Any reason I shouldn't go long on TWTR? Shit is oversold and has a $52 target within the year.

>>10751589
Int(((5sin(x))/x)dx,0,inf,x)
In a calculator assuming x=hotdog

>Coca Cola buys Body Armor

>>10751407
Shit. I missed it. Sorry.
This sounds fun af tho, is it going to be a regular thing?

>>10751181
I'm not saying you're wrong :^)
>>10751305
>what movie you showing? why should i stray away from my usual movie spots? what do you have to offer?
Why did you switch IDs and tripcodes? Is one for phoneposting?
>why should i stray away from my usual movie spots?
This one has a chatroom full of niggers. AND... Barbie, I think.

>>10751589
Oh yeah, I don't take breaks.
I can hardly do shit when I'm off of it.
Fucked for life how so?

>>10751428
I think that kind of jewish practice encourages you to be more aggressive and take more risk to achieve personal gains. And since everyone is doing the same, it forces you to be less retarded and be more wary of others
I feel that being a goy is equivalent to being a naive emotional idiot in their language

>>10751916
Yes I sleep for a good 16 hours if I don't take any
>Fucked for life how so
Well aside from permanent cognitive effects from recreational high doses (I'm assuming you don't take 100mg or more a day?) Almost year long withdrawal effects if you finally reach a point where you don't need to take them (like retireing )
And perminent lowered energy levels , and enthusiasm in general, for the rest of their lives
I assume it's from being young when they start and old when they stop though, but only people I know who take it do so recreationally, so it's hard to know if it's applicable if you use low doses regularly, instead of huge doses randomly

I don't mind getting fat or thin or losing muscle, because that can be fixen in a few months with behavior changes
But fucking with nervous or endocrin system? That sounds way more dangerous to me
So I'm curious about what other people have noticed, after long term use
Pic unrelated

HEY GUYS
Why an animu night ?
With Cowboy Bebop

>>10752007
Hey bible bro how do you feel about porn addiction? I think the same part of my brain that pulls me to open a new tab of porn is the one that makes me fomo into memes.

>read a post saying something about some book called random walk down your moms deep pussy
>thinking anything in this universe can be truly random unless is a virtual particle injected into this universe by another

Kys fucking retards.

>HURR DURR I RANDOMLY BOUGHT A STOCK EVEN THOUGH I WAS ON MY BROKER PLATFORM MAKING THE DECISION OF WHAT STOCK TO BUY LOL *holds up bags* SEE SO RANDOM LOL

>>10752114
Bible Black night pls

>>10752175
>virtual particle
Based stem brother
>injected into this universe by another
nvm just a regular retard namefag

>>10752226
Where do virtual particles come from, considering it's been observed that their energy doesn't come from anything in our universe, and that their energy does dissipate rather than being transferred onto something else.

>>10752116
>i think the same part of my brain that pulls me to open a new tab of porn is the one that makes me fomo into memes

You mean the Freudian id?

And don't ask me, I probably watch porn like 5-7 times a week, I need to cut back

>>10752240
It's a pair of particle and anti-particle. To put it lightly it's like a sum zero game.

>>10752256
So are you going to hell? Isn't there a waste no seed clause somewhere in your bible contract?

>>10752256
I know porn is a plot by the Moloch worshiping deep state to disrupt my spiritual connection to God, but if I don't watch it every 4 days I end up buying and beating a hooker
What do

>>10752295
Except for they aren't actual particles, and their energy can't be created since energy has no creation or destruction. Their energy is transferred to another universe. That is the only way they can work.

>>10752295
>So are you going to hell? Isn't there a waste no seed clause somewhere in your bible contract?
I feel like that's one of those things where the fundies are forcing a weird and contrived metaphor.
I think that's just something for the fundies to shout if they feel uncomfortable about masturbation eventhough it really isn't spelled out like that in the book

>>10752319
Masturbation mildly disrupts your sexual aura, to maximize channeling energy go no fap.
If you have to masturbate, be sure it's a full moon.

>>10752309
Kek, I fucking love you comfer.
Just beat your stick. And I mean YOUR stick, not the hooker WITH one.
There's no way the Bible was talking about jacking it in that section that people like to quote. It's talking about not being destructive in order to get out of work or not being wasteful... If your "seed" isn't going to be used anyways, and you go a little crazy (thirsty af) from not "spilling" it, then you should fucking beat your stick.
The fundies that yell that shit are stupid.
The sperm dies after something like 90 days anyways, and if you aren't planning to knock some bitch up, why not jack off? It's not actually "going to waste"

>>10752362
Pic related (Genesis 38:9)
It's not the fundamentalists, the entire religion of Christianity is absolutely bizarre. All the books of worship are covered is non PC weird shit
Liberal revisionists try to tone it down for the normies, which is degenerate.
Try

>>10752315
>energy has no creation or destruction
Nice dogmatic rule. If I pick a different dogmatic rule, like conservation of energy, than I can say there doesn't need to be another universe. But really science is empirical and I sure as hell have never done any particle physics experiments. Also after looking at the wikipedia page I guess I don't know as much as I wanted to think.

>>10752362
I like this, now I can go and watch porn and not feel guilty

>>10752240
> Virtual particle
They come from perspective from the observer

>>10752295
I'm Lutheran mate, I sinned enough to deserve hell by the time I was an infant
Just believe Jesus sacraficed himself to save you, and you go to heaven no matter what your sins are. You should want and try to avoid sinning to honor God, but through His compassion towards all of his creations (including us), he is forgiving.

Hating someone is just as sickening to Him as murdering someone is

And besides, if I'm wrong, then nothing happens after death, so who cares
It's not like teaching people morals is a terrible idea for society anyways

>>10752309
Jack off? Seek psychiatric help?
Or waste money on hookers (assuming they consent)

Do whatever you like

>>10752362
Forgot pic related. Really makes you think
(the context is also really weird, 10/10 would read again)

>>10752379
No you need to feel guilty watching porn.
Only (((liberal christians))) want you to think it's okay.

>>10752114
Sure!

>>10752382
What the fuck?
It's not talking about literal plant seeds then, is it?

>>10752395
>be Onan
>brother fucking dies
>lol I don't care
>Judah says I have to go fuck my brothers wife and give the resulting children to his lineage
>wtf no
>goes and fucks his brothers wife
>cums on the ground
>gets killed because God is pissed

I'm going to bed now, but anyone who tells you that Christianity isn't full of weird shit is objectively wrong

>>10752405
>be having dick in vageen
>cum on the floor

>>10752405
Wow, alright, shit. Thanks for explaining that.
Goodnight, comfy

How do I short Christians?

>>10752362
this

>reading something in english that was written in ancient hebrew, and expecting to understand the exact meaning as intended
ishygddt

also the bible has plenty of fucked up shit in it, the old testament and non-canonical books especially

>>10752413
Let's play out that scenario
>cums in his dead brothers wife
>she has your baby
>lol everyone says it's not your baby though it's the son of her dead husband
>raise your own children even though legally they aren't yours
>you die technically childless even though you literally had a child
>lol Onan was a fucking virgin and cucked himself

>>10752414
I'm not saying Christianity is bad, i'm just saying I don't like normies pretending it's written like Harry Potter. Hard to explain.
(Also take into account that normal Christianity wasn't weird enough for me so I opted into based and true space jesus mormonism)

>>10752419
Short $CATH

>>10752434
>loses virginity but can't even cum correctly
>dies afterwards
>this is better than actually passing on your genes while living a full life

>>10752444
Fugg quads confirm. You are correct

>>10752443
>GLOBAL X S&P 500 CATHOLIC VALUES ETF
Fucking kek I was not ready for this to be real
Watchlisted

>>10752443
Actually after spending two more seconds on it I realized it's just the s&p minus "immoral" companies. Still good just not as grand.

>>10752450
>quads

>>10752465
The Catholic Church has literally an heretic (a fucking clueless retarded argentinian) at its head
And they are accepting lots of niggers in its ranks because well, they are at least christians (TOP KEK)

I would short this shit

>>10752443
>Shorting Catholics
Sounds fun, fuck the pope

https://www.investing.com/news/economy-news/china-regulator-asks-financial-institutions-to-support-infrastructure-investment-1579228

>China's banking and insurance regulator has asked financial institutions to give more support to infrastructure investment, import and export firms, and companies experiencing "temporary operational difficulties."

>In a statement posted on its website late on Saturday, the China Banking and Insurance Regulatory Commission also called on the institutions to raise the proportion of medium- and long-term loans to avoid placing strain on the borrowers at the end of the month or quarter.

Top fucking kek

As an investor, how can you put your money with ease of mind when you have shit like that ?

I would interprete it as: "many of our investments and companies are nearly insolvent. We plan to kick the can down the road and you guys, will have the supreme honor of supporting the Chinese economy (aka bagholding our financial and economic mess)".

How would the ChinkCom control this ? Meet the bankers at the end of each month and ask them how many overdue loans they didn't collect ?

I have read in several articles that the stockmarket is being artificially pumped by companies buying back their stocks. Yet, at the same time, the company managers started are selling off their privately owned stocks.

Is this true? If so, isnt that kind of scary?

>>10753120
>I have read in several articles that the stockmarket is being artificially pumped by companies buying back their stocks. Yet, at the same time, the company managers started are selling off their privately owned stocks.
its literally nothing
you have read horseshit

Rate my porfolio:
>90% VFV (VOO S&P 500)
>10% WEED

Having a good month rn lol.

Holy crap they turned their haunted hotel into an marking angel!
Warren Buffett just had to point the Secret Millionaires Vluds creatively did the rest

Elon Musk Dumped Grimes

Tesla might be saved. Stay tuned.

>>10754378
Wat?

>>10754721
So Monday TSLA pump to $420?

>>10754941
Me am trying for be good girl and no trade shitcoins om the lords day x.x

>>10754721
I think you mean grimes might be saved. Stock is going to dump again Monday morning as people who were behind absorb all the news. The exchange on twitter doesn't help either.
> Arianna H: I think you should sleep more
> Elon M: I'm not bankrupt

Really sucks too. I have meetings from 9am till noon and I wanted to buy more puts.

whenever you are doing terrible in the market always remember to check the robinhood page on facebook to feel better about yourself

>>10754968
That's a shame, it's coming up today
I'd be doing that if I didn't work today

Off topic, but is it worth mining anything on my PC with a nvidea gtx 1070 ?
Or with 2 if I buy a second one?

>>10755310
now we are all sons of bitches

>>10755310
Robinhood and the market in general, getting flooded with basketball americans is the canary in the cole mine.

Leave the market now.

>>10755339
how are poortards going to affect the market as a whole

>>10755352

>>10755339
Or signs of a demographics shift

And couldn't all that extra cash being lost by newbs mean more to be gained by people not gambling on options?

So do me buy under armor or what x.x?

>>10755322
Gabriel told me not for trade on Sundays and me will be successfuler :O

BTC going up am temptations from Satan ;_;

>>10755339
This am meme to keep you from making money
What you really suppose do is find out what they buying and short it

Kinda like Comfy plan

some of you are alright, don't come to the markets on wednesday

>>10754988
> Arianna H....

>>10754988
Elon Musk is going full black pilled.

- Dumped Grimes
- Saying fuck off to lazy elites
- 3 AM at the factory

A MGTOW nofap elon musk will invent AGI, conquer mars, and then blow up earth while cumming in waifu VR pussy

let's be honest, it's probable 90% of the weird elon behavior was due to grimes. Dating a hipster retard chick like that probably fucks your brain up so bad.

So I'm not saying TSLA won't tank tomorrow, I probably see it losing more price. This is not meant to alter it.

The problem right now in Auto industry is pretty systemic. The dealership model is on the decline as EV is coming in. A huge source of margin for a dealer is service and EV require far less service and pay less for service. It's a simpler machine. There have been a lot of talks about this but you can see some here:

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/01/science/electric-car-auto-dealers.html

There is a huge structural problem with this that all auto companies are going to run into. If the dealers can't stay afloat in an EV world to begin with they are triple fucked by automated fleets.

You can't look at what's going on in Autos over the next 1-2 years and see anything but completely FUCKED in the asshole raw with razor blades to all of them. Literally every single one.

Tesla MIGHT be the exception as structurally they are most orientated towards this future. The question mark is on their automation and taxi fleet plans. If Tesla had a partner like Google, Apple, etc they would be a $500 company overnight. Just a partnership, not a buyout as they would be much more likely to be on the other side of the switchover to EV/Automation.

But, GM/Ford/VW are all places you do not want to put a dollar. There is no way they transition without immense and deep pain.

R8 my portfolio pwease

>>10756064
I actually considered becoming a salesman for Tesla and gain on maintenance was an argument I thought up about EV

>>10756064
Glut in market. The next problem is simply a glut oversupply of vehicles that exist. Let's assume waymo or autonomous taxi services start taking off. What demand is there for new ICE vehicles? You have used cars building up, existing owners who no longer want to pay insurance / monthly fees.

ETC.

The big problem I think is that Elon Musk is not focusing on taxi fleets enough. While I think the market does want this to be the case. Look at waymo valuation. Tesla should be focusing on high cost, premium, taxi viable fleets. The cost per car hardly matters, see Waymo's high cost sensors, if you are gaining market share in the taxi market.

If they refocus or partner into taxi fleets the valuation goes much higher than a simple build and sell car company. The whole idea of consumers putting their car into Tesla's fleet service is stupid as fuck. It should be exclusive, fuck the consumer, and ran by Tesla and maybe a partner.

This very simple switch of focus is all they should care about. Car Dealerships, Car Ownership, etc is not the future. Future is fucking owning the peasants, owning the car, and offering it as a service. The big advantage of waymo+tesla or apple+tesla is simply in having a large EV fleet ready earlier than your competitor. Since EV is the future having the charging/infrastructure all sound and working is nice edge in what will be a massive market opportunity.

Tesla still has potential but it needs to refocus and get a partner asap to ensure it's positioning in the fleet future. That is unless the current AI chip is actually that good and they somehow got insane software dev on it to make it competitive or top of the line

>>10756121
Any non-ICE or even hybrid has less service costs and less visits to dealership. It's why dealerships will guide customers away from them or put higher retail sale margins on them.

Dealerships in an EV world will have to raise prices and get a bigger cut in the initial sale to stay alive. Meaning competitive advantage improves for non-dealership EV companies.

It's a minor thing but you should listen to dealership industry people talk about it. They are already facing margin squeezes due to online competition. Very tough to see dealerships existing how they do now in the future with double threat of EV and Taxi Fleets.

The TLDR: Don't invest in Autos or Dealerships at all. Both are facing gamestop levels of "doom".

Apple, Google, etc are better ways to play autos than auto companies with way better peripheral bonuses since their fleet stuff is not even priced in.

Also Amazon is going to fuck kill everyone with autonomous driving. They can just pick a service, pop a package in the trunk, it waits outside you get a ring, and you go out and grab the package.

The last street -> door portion doesn't even need to get solved depending on infrastructure and that type of service could come to a place like Arizona next year via waymo.

Amazon is going to just destroy once fleets exist. Real Time delivery on demand for cheap.

>>10756068
Never heard of single one of these >_>

Why softbank is fucking stupid in one easy explanation

They are investing in GM, a car company, for autonomous driving future.

The current "good looking" portion of GM is making cars, largely ICE, which is going to shit the bed in an autonomous world.

Google, a software focused company, is doing autonomous vehicles. When autonomous vehicles do well the rest of google's business will do even better. It can leverage having ownership of people's vehicles to get much more money out of it per trip.

So they invested in GM, a worse software company, for software that will kill GM's rest of business.

top fucking lol, literally subhuman intelligence behind that investment.

>>10747207
stop posting photos of this laptop the red sided keyboard keys are making me ANGERY!

I've seen it on two or three boards now.

>>10751397
Holy shit, that is pretty cool. Do you have any regrets?

>>10751397
Scoops, in 6 months when I'm further into AI I want you to be my co-founder to get lots of VC money. You can take half.

>>10748097
bodum coffee grinder and then some french press. real coffee hours.

Paperclip Maximizing Universe LLC

The most important question in the universe is how many paperclips can be created.

Weekends are fun fun fun fun for volatility

>>10756260
>>10756179

What about based Toyota?

>>10756498
I give fractional brainpower to this problem. Meaning I only analyze at the highest levels of abstraction. Getting into the nitty gritty details of each company is not something that interests me.

>>10756514
Just imagine a Toyota/Tesla partnership...damn!

>>10749212
tell me more at least enough for breadcrumbs. The image search showed me no source but possibly what was used as a reference material.

>>10754941
I think TSLA could rebound people are starting to feel sorry for the guy and he looked really normal and likable on Marques Brownlee (youtube guy).

I think shorting Ambien could be good because its ruined Roseanne and Musk's careers.

Company name is SNY.

>>10756520
Doesn't make any sense. Tesla needs to cement itself for a taxi fleet future. They are clearly in the EV sector already and cemented in that. They just need to branch into the space of fleet securely.

Toyota would not offer that. Last I heard on Toyota they had invested some billions into autonomous tech but it's not really that strong.

To understand it. Tesla makes good smart phones right now but needs to cement an android operating system / IOS behind the vehicle. It's unclear how good their AI chip is.

If they are doing FP8 specific technology and Keller did some whiz job I'd still want to see them partner with someone big to help make that even better.

Tesla solo makes no sense. They have a valuable hardware platform, they have some nice chip tech. They have some infrastructure in place with chargers/service centers.

They just need 1 key component to cement themselves. Right now they are not cemented in. They would cap their future value by doing such a partnership but it could be best for stability.

It would also take a software partner understanding the potential value which is harder now with the last few months of craziness.

>>10756338
lemme get in on that co-foundry my dude

>>10756672
I need someone with credentials mainly. Once you have AGI working it becomes a hardware problem aka $$$

>>10756569
TSLA doesn't have anything

Their batteries are literally just put together Panasonic cells and their autonomous driving is ranked dead last by pretty much everyone. They build cars in a tent.

TSLA is what happens when buzzwords become a business. They are a government fueled scam

>>10756768
Completely wrong but very obvious why you think this way to me. It's not something I really want to argue though.

>>10746943
I had a dream about getting food at a restaurant with my family

>>10756695
I got great credit but all my free assets are locked into various juicy accounts. I'm a proficient negotiator and experienced businessman. I'm talking logistics, overhead, sustainability, got exp in various sales and database software too depending on what sort of workflow is necessary. My salary gig is so I can fuck around in these meme stocks and still afford some nice digs which aren't my moms house despite still being in cocoon mode.

>>10756794
TSLA has no patents, there is a reason why

All of there stuff is either third party or trash

>>10756768
Just a question. But how is the current status of non-tesla auto companies better?

Do they have advantageous battery deals? 1/3rd cost of EV. Are they making money off EV? Do they have better distribution network for EV in dealerships?

On the autonomous side we don't know what Keller cooked up or what their chip is capable of. It being FP8 is probably a big advantage. That being said the autonomous drive side is their most insecure point of failure right now. Which could be alleviated, it's simply unknown.

On autonomous side, their M3 performed the best when recently tested at staying in lane. What you are comparing it to is prototype testing ala waymo etc. Which is not the same as for instance Waymo uses human intervention via remote driver centers to handle tricky situations.

We won't know whether TSLA's autonomous is BS or not until we see their Keller designed ASIC perform. I don't think that is 100% chance so it's very uncertain but does have potential.

Also AI is not an incremental advantage via time thing. Start ups and months old approaches beat years old projects routinely. It's very much different and harder to predict.

>>10756822
I'll post in this thread for a few days when I make more progress. AGI is a very beautiful algorithm so it will take some time to solve. The good thing is I estimate my chances at 1/100 or so right now for AGI, and much higher for best in class.

the Vector Space is opening

>>10756883
It's tough saying what is more beautiful, AGI or NP-complete algorithms.

The worst thing is that I can't use anything existing because it is so disgusting.

>not having a genetics layer for architectural instantation
>not basing design off biological growth related to input -> vectorization

>>10756872
You should go all in on TSLA stock

>>10757035
I did with hedge puts

>>10755362
Good thing I'm not exposed to any stocks whatsoever

>>10757057
>going all in options on a stock with 210% implied volatility

>>10757104
So when is the ER that's going to kill IV?

I'M SO FUCKING BORED HOLY SHIT

I need a weekend job or something

>>10757118
If you want to go long IV do it out to january and just wait until the stock either confirms buyout or tanks and the IV crunches to sub 50%. It's probably free money?

>>10757133
short IV****

You'd do this by selling a straddle/strangle, by the way. Ask short strangle officer for more details, I've never actually gone short options in my life and he does a shit ton of short strangles/straddles all the time, which he occasionally posts here.

>>10755972
>>10755990
>>10756064
>>10756130
>>10756156
>>10756179
>>10756209

pfffthahaha this COPE
> EV require far less service and pay less for service.
peoples cars have been in the shop for MONTHS waiting on parts
> If the dealers can't stay afloat
> You can't look at what's going on in Autos over the next 1-2 years and see anything but completely FUCKED in the asshole raw with razor blades to all of them. Literally every single one.
Dealers will be fine. they make tons of money on their service centers.
> Tesla MIGHT be the exception as structurally they are most orientated towards this future.
Theyre structurally oriented towards bankruptcy

autonomous taxi fleet? These guys cant even get a level 2 system to work. The tesla taxis in dubai are fucking bombing as is.

EVERYTHING this retarded cum guzzling baggy has said is wrong or misguided. hope no one invests based off of this.


Let me tell you whats going to happen with TSLA. The company has less than 1 bil in cash and over 1 bil in civil liabilities. This BoD is fucking shitting themselves right now because they don't have insurance. They are going to declare bankruptcy, they just trying to do it in some way that saves face. I'm heading to lamboland off of TSLA puts.

>>10757133
well

-Saudi news
-Elon Musk steps back
-partnership/major announcement of some kind like COO

I don't see anything killing IV without moving the stock a huge directional. I think on no headlines, very unlikely, we still see it move down on Monday. Just a guess.

>>10756316
Thanks for saying this, I almost made the same post. Gaymen laptops make me irrationally angry.

>>10757148
I don't mind bear arguments. You are infinitely wrong on service costs though.

"With EVs, there will be less dollars available to the dealer," says Wally Burchfield, vice president of U.S. aftersales for Nissan North America.


UBS analysts estimate that aftersales revenue for the Bolt, for such things as replacement parts, will be 60 percent less — about $400 a year — than such revenue for a traditional car.

This is things Dealerships are on top of and know about. Tesla's service logistics and issues are a unique situation within EV and under a magnifying glass.

>>10757187
Tesla will fail for one simple reason: They are selling very expensive cars. They don't actually have any sort of advantage over other monolithic auto companies, who sell millions of cars a year already. The moment EV becomes economically viable, or tesla actually becomes a threat, you will see ICE automakers all at once suddenly start researching EVs. They will undercut tesla if it isn't already dead by then, effortlessly.

>>10757235
**By producing EVs that are actually comparable in cost to the kinds of ICE vehicles 90% of people use currently.

if you wanna make a play on TSLA, go to Sep 21 cycle and short a 240/360 strangle for 10.10cr.

alternatively you can go to Oct 19 and short a 225/380 strangle for 13.20cr.

Sep 21 theta decay has already gone past the sweet point but there's still a lot of premium due to high IV rank, which is 85. that's your best bet for TSLA. premium is way too rich to buy for long shots even in 2020.

>>10757187
EVs do theoretically have smaller service costs than ICEs. In practice, Tesla currently is "EVs" and they have tremendous service costs.

>>10757278
DO NOT DO THIS. DO NOT GO SHORT TSLA PUTS. YOU HIGH A VERY HIGH CHANCE OF GETTING RAPED. This company could drop 100 pts in a week. It could be bankrupt a week from now or a month from now, there is no telling. If you want a safe play, go short calls. If you want a riskier high payout play, go long puts. DO NOT SHORT PUTS.

>>10757235
>they are selling very expensive cars
no point to this sentence
>They don't have advantages
They actually do. Dealership model that uniquely works with EV structurally is one. Another is being entirely EV orientated already with the other companies have not done. They have better integration with battery cell production via doing the battery packs and partnership with panasonic.
The rest of advantages are non-structural such as brand value and potential of software/chip products (uncertain).

The existing ICE companies have to do a large transition as you said which will take time, reposititioning, and re-structuring of dealership models.

In addition the volume of cars is less important in an autonomous future. Making a lot of ICE does not translate to EV due to battery supply crunch. Glut due to autonomous demand, etc.

The idea of ICE companies undercutting EV market is pretty funny though. They all sell at loss right now and the EV's from those companies are drying up in demand.

Tesla has potential in the long-run still especially if they deliver on Standard battery cost cutting measures, aka a lighter standard M3.

The story isn't over yet. I do see decline in share price on Monday though is most likely.

The other thing is there still exist a lot of black swan events for this stock in either direction.

>>10757405
If ICE companies thought tesla was an actual threat, they would all be rushing to do what tesla is doing. They aren't, and they know a lot more than we could considering their position to lose everything is tesla somehow actually monopolizes transportation in the future. They know things neither of us could.

>>10757405
Also if tesla actually starts producing anywhere enough EVs to actually be on par with one of the monolithic companies in just the US alone, they will get fucking RAPED by lithium prices going 10, maybe 20 times higher.

>>10757439
Car Companies are going to be naturally slow to respond though. It's just how businesses work. They are investing somewhat in autonomous though and are much more on the ball with that even though they probably still lose to software companies.

>>10757473
Lithium isn't quite as rare as you would believe.

>>10749611
>kneepad
>samhain
I thought you were of the asian persuasion

Just to clarify my view as bull/bear. I think Tesla is volatile and properly reflective of that. They have potential to go both directions. I would say I'm bearish short term, bullish long term, but would not be surprised to be wrong on that.

>>10757505
Lithium isn't rare but the production capacity of the world cannot support an EV economy. Tesla selling 2 million EVs a year would create demand for lithium probably higher than the current entire demand combined. Tesla themselves acknowledged this when they began constructing the gigafactory, that a successful tesla would require more than the world's entire supply of lithium ion batteries. They would get absolutely raped.

>>10757521
If you dont want the volatility/opportunity just go on google or possibly nvidia.

>>10757524
More lithium is coming on market. Also that's almost a bullish case as Tesla has been very aggressive at securing battery capacity.

>>10746864
holy shit i think im falling in love with Bruce Linton

doesnt give a fuck, still drives a used Ford, wears a cheap suit, and actually knows his shit. I wish I just went all into WEED and didn't bother with the other stocks

>>10757537
Battery capacity is not the issue, there will literally be a massive lithium shortage if they start pumping out batteries as planned. Already about half the world's supply of lithium is used in batteries, and the majority of that is in electronics like phones and laptops. These EVs require hundreds of times more weight in lithium per unit.

>>10757390
Fat tail risk is rare, not a very high chance.

Even then, if you're trading TSLA options, you better have a large amount of capital to withstand fluctuations. 99% on this board don't have that capital.

>>10751675
>IMG 0932
where is this? american northwest?

>>10757562
If anything this is very very bullish for lithium mining companies, far more bullish than a tesla which takes over the auto market, even.

>>10757562
Lithium is plentiful, it's not a rare element or anything.

https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/lithium-insiders-move-to-quell-fears-of-market-collapse

Supply can increase to satiate demand. Also advances in tech are already prototyped with less cobalt per battery.

>>10757596
Of course supply will increase to meet demand, but tesla will still feel the crunch.

>>10757611
>>10757611
spot price lithium is about $1400 dollars per 70kwh pack at the highest prices. $22 per kg. It's unknown what long-term contracts panasonic has for prices too at least from what I researched.

ITT: A Tesla fan boy copes hard

Guys I'm new to this.

Is buying wheat futures a good idea right now considering half of Europe has been on fire and drought this summer?

>>10757692
probably

disclaimer: long wheat

>>10757689
Not really. I would waver towards playing the bear side of the argument this week. Not that even that is a sure thing or high %.

The long term bull argument is dependent on upcoming uncertainty. You can't say for sure right now.

Paradoxically, though, the main challenge for lithium right now is oversupply. The materials intelligence service Metal Bulletin this month blamed “sluggish demand from downstream buyers” for an ongoing fall in the spot price of battery-grade lithium carbonate this year.

In China, the world’s largest consumer of lithium carbonate, the price of the material has dropped by more than 44 percent since December 2017, from ¥180,000 (USD $26,000) down to ¥100,000 ($14,500) per ton, Metal Bulletin data shows. Outside China, prices have leveled off.

>>10757692
>>10757720
WEAT bros are the based bros of smg

Proud Tesla shareholder through FNGU

>>10757563
The tail on this trade is fatter than the head and the market doesn't realize it. The IV on the options is huge, but it is still mispriced. The risk here is not statistical, it is factual if you do the research. This stock is a powder keg that could blow at any moment.

>>10757774
Yep, 280 is possible tomorrow along with 320.

I think the bear hope was Elon stepping back for a week or some news like that.

>>10757596
anyone trade Lithium as a commodity here?

>>10757818
The bear hope is CH11 in sept for bigger(x500) payouts rather than CH7 in Nov for smaller(x100) payouts. What I would not like as a bear is if Elon goes into "Rehab" and the stock dives for 150 but sits there for two months while everyone figures out the company is bankrupt. This company is going under and the only thing keeping it afloat is retail baggies picking up stocks from institutions who are dumping. As soon as baggies stop buying, its falling like a knife.

>>10757743

Do you guys just pick an industry to focus on and fill your bags then trade options / futures or do you go through multiple sectors?

My crypto bags are now full to the brim and now for some reason I am drawn to commodities.

>>10757870
I don't see a bankruptcy like that being possible on that timeline. My hedges would love it though.

>>10757774
If it's fact, then why hasn't it happened yet? Even if price moves 100 pts tomorrow, it can move 60 pts the other way the next day. All you need to do is have enough capital to realize theta decay. Most people here don't have that kind of capital.

>>10746864
I Want to lovingly marry that Christian and raise and good Christian family with her.

>>10757104
Can you give me any background on pic related? It looks like someone went all in on HMNY

Market is already pricing in buyout deal at some negative multiple. Market is pricing in Elon Musk instability at some level, that can get worse easily.

The public is still somewhere positive sentiment on Tesla so that can change and might have increased marginally.

I think the general trajectory is down on price though with potential negative catalysts like news from saudis, Bod, or something else black swan.

volatility to upside still exists too but nothing short of a black swan event would catalyze it immediately.

Whew! Finally made the Black/ Scholes prediction model for SPXL

since SPXL a derivative it am vulnerable to tracking errors because of volatility
Here chart: Upper prices are lower volatility, lower prices are high volatility

>>10757909
>>10757943
You guys realize the CEO committed securities fraud and the company is facing lawsuits that WILL bankrupt it, right? No one is touching this steaming turd, the stock is worth less than 0 right now. Liabilities exceed assets.Everything points to this. Hell, they have started shutting down the assembly plant at noon.

It is going down, the only question is when. If they want the business to have any future at all, it has to be CH11. If they wait any longer is has to be CH7 and the business will be liquidated.

Oh I get it, this thread is just a TSLA circle jerk.

Fuck you guys.

>>10758021
I think at that point elon would bet spaceX on it.

>>10758062
Illegal and not enough money left. SpaceX already has tons of solar city bonds.

Are we on Cucking Beta's "short ideas" thread ?

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>>10758073
It's completely legal and spacex valuation is good enough to keep tesla running a much longer duration.

>>10757888
>For some reason...
You are just changin one gamble form to another one