/biz/ - Business & Finance

Literal whos

>>10721259
Peter Thiel is frens with em

>>10721175

>https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/steve-bannon-white-house-white-nationalist-colleagues-books-donald-trump-chief-strategy-nsc-a7567336.html
>http://www.unz.com/isteve/the-atlantic-monthly-on-bronzeagepervs-role-in-trump-administration/
>https://www.theverge.com/2017/2/21/14671978/alt-right-mencius-moldbug-urbit-curtis-yarvin-tlon
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOta6PJhe2U

So a very lighthearted connection is the fact that Curtis Yarvin called twitter user @bronzeagemantiz "the spokesman for the alt right"

This was around the time when Yarvin was getting interviewed bc of the weird press rumor that he had a back channel to communicate with Steve Bannon(we know bannon loves Yarvin regardless). And either way we know Yarvin has clout. One of the main investors in Urbits funding company, Tlon, was Peter Thiel. And going even farther back, Thiel paid for Tlon's other founder, John Buchman, to drop out of college to pursue "asteroid harvesting" .

Now we know BAP has posted multiple chainlink memes. So its possible Yarvin has seen them, who knows this could have been how he first heard of the project. Stranger things have happened.

There is even some speculation via Justin Muphy(is this guy satire or autistic idk desu) that Yarvin IS BRONZE AGE PERVERT. There has been lots of speculation as to what Yarvin's twitter "alt" is...

>>10721175
Do you have the screenshot of the comment posted in the urbit github?

So I figure the real connections, if any, will exist between urbit and cl developers. For instance:

Matt Condon-

> so whats his connection to urbit?

urbits twitter retweeted his tweet:
. https://twitter.com/mattgcondon/status/1026207496728236032
Its basically talking about the path to on boarding consumers onto urbit; “Akin to a router”

>So who is this guy?

He works for ZepplinOS. As we all know, there is a HUGE connection bwteen Zepplin and Chainlink:
>https://blog.zeppelinos.org/chainlink-partnership/

>>10721575
unfortunately no. And I cant find the 4chan thread about it but Im not too good at searching the chan archives to be honest. Help would be appreciated here.

>>10721623
>>10721593

Only thing I can find is this, admittedly, obscure as fuck mention of it on some weird chat forum:
https://veekyforums.com/thread/7998156/business/urbit-wants-chainlink.html

Here is a useful and interesting blog post from 2017 of urbit discussing pros and cons of moving onto the ethereum blockchain
>https://urbit.org/blog/2017.9-eth/

This blog post has a pretty common sense explanation of just what urbit is: a personal decentralized server.

Here is a key quote:
> "Your Urbit instance is your personal server. Your urbit should eventually contain and manage your whole digital life. You may compute at home or in the cloud, based on your security/privacy tradeoff, but Urbit's formal semantics makes ships trivial to migrate. You'll never be locked in to one computing provider."

SO, in order for urbit users to interact securely at any level of security/privacy, a decentralized oracle must come in to use, correct?

Instead of the use case of connecting the blockchain to off chain info, what if we consider another use case: CONNECTING YOUR PERSONAL SERVERS TO THE BLOCKCHAIN IN A TRUSTED WAY.

If we accept that premise, than the next question to ask is who to use?

>>10721664
Veeky forum seems to be a mirror of the biz archive but with random fake pseudonyms attached, this is one of our threads

bump. relevant and interdasting

What does urbit actually do? Are they like sky competitors without their shitcoin?

Currency = Bitcoin
Law = Etherium
Land = Urbit
Glue = Chainlink
This is the combination that will usher in the cryptoanarchic golden age.

>>10722716
To my admittedly weak understanding it's basically Mencius Moldbug's 15 year old pet project to recreate thr entire computing paradigm with something that makes sense from an economic standpoint. It seemed to anticipate many blockchain concepts before Bitcoin but the whole project is difficult to understand. It will likely change the world, though.

>>10722765
>glue will be more valuable than currency or land

>>10722868
They're all important, I'd put the most money in whichever is lowest at the time and hedge with the others.

>>10721902
OP well done on your research. Legend. Urbit seems like it could have real game changing potential,just no idea how far off it is. A jason parser ala ChainLink would surely be necessary at some level.

serious question for cryptofaggots,

if anyone can just create a new coin, why would any coin replace currency. I get why XRP exists but I also get that another company can do the same. I get that bitcoin exists, I don't get how its function is better than any other coin based on new tech being developed everyday.

redpill me or get this scam shit off biz

OP Here, im back. Different ID I know. I was on my work pc and now im at home on my laptop. Drove home and was playing Matt Condon videos I found on you tube:

Notably this one:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpcsFPeLjcw

seems like he understands the need to access offchain data.

Can you all keep this thread alive? I gotta go work out and do random stuff. Talk to you all later.

Heres some more videos he is in:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvO3J4AKLWo

Also it says he works for XLNT...whats that? Possible Avenue of research.

And here is that website:
> https://xlnt.co/

>https://medium.com/ideo-colab/getting-up-to-speed-on-blockchain-design-elements-1eb56429bb23

>>10721175
Who is Curtis yarvin & Mencius moldbug?

>>10723430
TLDNR Curtis Yarvin a guy that made alot of money in the first tech boom, enough that he was able to retire and basically just read books all day, so much so that he began a blog called unqualified reservations which ran from like 07 to 2016. His pen name while writing the blog was Mencius Moldbug. He is credited with starting the "dark enlightenment" or the "neo reactionary" movement along with Nick Land and a few others.This movement is considered more or less the intellectual wellspring of the far right(the alt right as it is called is a fiction largely in my opinion)

He is more or less very well connected in the tech world. For instance he watched the 2016 presedential election results with PeterThiel(if you dont know who Peter Thiel is then you need to stop and get that sorted out.

>>10723120
if anyone can print paper money, why would any paper money replace coins?
concensus

I am truly impressed by the research you have done. The truth is out there and it's vaster than I imagined. Thank you. -Ra

>>10721175
yarvin/moldbug and sirgay definitely know one another, though given sirgay's liberal tendencies he would probably deny it if asked, and also b/c of the controversy surrounding moldbug at teh moment. i know for a fact that they know each other.

>>10724068
how can you know that? is there any way to find that out from publicly available information?

>>10721175
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmE4Rm3jX0w
Tonlur is this dude, an intern at Tlon. Gonna dig some more. Should probably do some due diligence and narrow down exactly what urbit is. It seems to do so much. Possibly revolutionary thats why it isn't explained so easily.
>>10724068
If Sergey and moldbug know each other it really would be crazy. I doubt it though.

https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/4bxf6f/im_curtis_yarvin_developer_of_urbit_ama/ Talking about moving data and identity from Facebook into a specific database using APIs. -Ra

bump, this shit is interesting. i knew sirgay was well connected, but seems like he has friends and contacts in the most intriguing places. the man will be well known one day to anybody. he will be the next elon/peter thiel of the software world.

Another literally who meme ICO.
Wtf happened to swift and hundreds of banks?

>>10724191
he's not talking about an ICO you fucking twat. try using the brain you were born with for once and read through the goddamned thread.

>>10724191
seriously. people like you infuriate me

>>10724204
Another literally who project.
Wtf happened to swift and hundreds of banks?

>>10724211
swift is the sesame seed of the bigmac

>>10724157
https://urbit.org/blog/2017.9-eth/

>>10723275
>>10721175
OP im part of a small Telegram group of ChainLink enthusiastics. We have different professional backgrounds and work together to find more info.

We only have 2 rules, no cringe and no P&D.

If you want to join send me an e-mail

213456@protonmail.com

Put in your e-mail a code, post the same code in this thread. That way I know that you are the one who replied to me.

Other people please don't reply

>>10722765
Why is currency, law, land, and glue so important?

Why not something else?

>>10724328
Like epoxy? What do you even know about sticking things together young lady?

CTRL F

>>10724268
Emailing you now, for reference my email is a Kate Bush reference

https://www.insurancejournal.com/news/international/2017/10/30/469647.htm Insurances on blockchain. Stephan Karpischek and Sergey were both at EDCON. -Ra

>>10724382
Nothing to do with OP, but bumped into this while researching OP related stuff

>>10724382
oh that is interesting tho!

>>10721175
https://yuki.la/biz/7998156
original link to the github thing, haven't found actual github link though

>>10724382
https://www.insureblocks.com/tag/etherisc/ They want to do flight and crop insurances

nice find marine

>>10724268
>>10724375
Oh my bad I read that post too fast and I didnt include the code. The code is 5689231

>>10724191
>>10724204
>>10724211
>Curtis Yarvin's Urbit is a literally who project
Literal fucking retards.

tfw I was given two planets by the dark lord himself

>>10721175
No chance. Sergey is full on SJW and Moldbug is a shitlord race realist.

>>10725454
If you look through Urbit devs twitter it seems like it ranges the gamnut of political opinions. Some people follow BAP, some follow commie pages, some follow accelerationist pages. A diverese range of extremes from what ive seen lurking for the last few days.

>>10725412
Can you provide any insight from within the urbit community about all this? Its safe to say most of biz is on the outside looking in to urbit.

Also interestingly enough alot of these devs all follow or are followed by Nick Szanbo(potentially CL connection and in general a pre-BTC crypto guru)

Anothony Arroyo-Follows Szabo

Matt Liston- is followed by ConsenSYS twitter and its founder's twitter, Joseph Lublin

Morgan Sutherland- Followed by Szabo

So these guys are all Urbit users and or employees or devs, so if you all wanna help, go through these guys twitters, go through their Githubs, go through you tube searches, facebook, see if you can find any interesting posts or likes or friends or anything like that. Some other names to look into would be:

- Yoni Levy
- Matt Condon
- Juan Campa
- Ted BlackMan
- Anton Dyudin:
-Keaton dunsford
-Joe bryan
- Aaron Beckerman
- Justin Leblanc

Oh! another interesting place to look is Urbit's old google group: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/urbit-dev

Happy hunting. I hope we find some more concrete connections, this could be really something marines. Godspeed.

>>10725499
I don’t follow it that closely, but Urbit could do a hell of a lot with a CL adapter.

they are bootstrapping the self-sovereign key ownership system using Ethereum, maybe they could be convinced to keep using it if they had reliable bidirectional data.

>>10725648
Thanks for clearing that up, Im an absolute brainlet when it comes to understanding Urbits relationship to Ethereum.

havent found anything noteworthy yet, bump for those who haven't seen it

>>10725842
Im gonna be off the grid all weekend so I hope you all can find something, theres gotta be something in between some of these >>10725628 names. I see Gnosis brought up alot by these guys. Again Ive only been looking into this for like 48 hours +/-. Also I see Augur brought up alot, I guess because Matt Liston was a dev on it or co-creator or something.

>>10725887
>>10725842
>>10725648
>>10725628
>>10725499

Cant sleep, so I am pressing on tonight a bit:

I was over in that Web3/oracalize/chainlink thread and I saw someone mentioning that Gavin Wood was in the room.

I know he helped create Ethereum and I recall some old reddit(never saw this on biz but honestly I am not on biz all so much so maybe I missed it) threads about how he mentions chainlink by name in a book he cowrote with Anders Antonopolous on Ethereum: https://github.com/ethereumbook/ethereumbook/blob/develop/oracles.asciidoc

So thats two different points in time we can connect Gavin to Chainlink. SO I figured "hey I wonder if I can connect him to Urbit?"

Looks like Gavin Wood was on a panel with Galen Wolfe Pauly in June of 2016 called the Decentralized web summit: https://2016.decentralizedweb.net/

And there is even video linked from the panel: https://archive.org/details/DWebSummit2016_Lightning_Talks_Session_B

I wont have time to watch the full video but Ill be sure to soon.

>>10726112
this is good shit

>>10726362
not bad for a tech illiterate with only 2500 link

>>10725454
>shitlord
>2018

>>10726480
Why did they give you the same poster ID as me?

>>10726487
they expect one of us in the wreckage, brother

So this is the new thing, is it? Pretending your project has connections to chainlink?
Can't wait to see a thousand of these posts every day.
>Hey you guys, I think this referral link has something to do with sergey, lets check it out!

>>10726511

>>10722765
KEK
>currency
>law
>land
>glue

Great. Everyone should buy fucking glue over everything else. This is the funniest shit I’ve ever read. Only because you’re dead serious in your analogy. Moron lmao

>>10726534
Lol dickhead your "connections" are:
people who were in the room with gavin wood,
people who follow szabo on twitter.
Gtfo

sergey and steve are at a midnight screening of Alpha.

>>10724268
Big Mac

>>10726560
And how did people start getting wind of the open law connections? It started with low level, borderline circumstantial evidence. Im not claiming its grade a evidence, and if you actually read the thread youd see that. But keep shitposting if thats all you can contribute , fine by me keep bumping my thread to the top of the page.

>>10726749
>omg justin sun follows vitalik who tweeted about link once trx use chainlink!!!???

Bumping this useful thread

>>10721175
>>10721269
>>10725367
Niggers stop talking about urbit until after the next star sale.

>>10727408
When is the next star sale? Probably never

>>10724328
>Why are the digital representations of the entire basis for human history worth anything?

>>10727454
They need to distribute the rest of the stars somehow or the platform remains under centralized control and is worthless. They are working on ERC721 compliance so stars can be tokenized.

>>10724268
Long term Urbit (and Link) enthusiast. Emailing with code 88888888

No, this is all wrong. I know the guy from github, He's a good friend of mine. I'm the one that told him about Urbit and Chainlink. Youre barking up the wrong tree. But the fact that /biz/ is finally getting hip to urbit is interesting

Did you get your stars yet, /biz/?

you made a fake github account and are trying to shill nonexistent connections
classy

>>10728774
What are stars about? Care to explain?

You people are such autists. Find the Twitter of someone on the Urbit team, DM them "hey, have you guys heard of Chainlink?", done.

>>10721175
OP sorry I didn't read anything in this thread so someone may have said this.

Tonlur came on the chainlink discord some time ago and said he was not part of urbit and proved it by making an edit on his github page.

>>10724375
Done desu

>>10731197
thanks ill join in a sec

>>10722765
>>10722868
>>10726546

Yeah that analogy was fucking retarded he should have gone with:

>currency
>government
>land
>fuel

Fuel because chainlink allows communication across all these sectors, it is more like oil or electricity.