/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>10709370
>Find cool picture in archives in a interesting thread
>Post it to /biz/
>Week later OP is seen posting the image I revived
When do I get brought into the inner psyops circle.

>>10709443
As soon as you admit that youre mom ghey lol

>>10709475
DOUBLE MILKIES TO TIE ME OVER THE LINK MOON MISSION WAIT

>>10709370
>be supervisor allocating rewards to underlings based on well defined benchmarks
>make 3x what underlings make
Welp

pretty much every white collar worker spends at LEAST 40% of their time pretending to work
the funniest thing is that they think they won't be automated out of existence and laugh at truck drivers and cashiers now. just wait 10 years, LOL

>>10709585
Of course crises will arise in the future as a result of automating intellectual labor. It won't go play out the same way as manual labor as a result of the sheer variety in white collar professions. In general, though, it'll be the "soft skill" reliant jobs that will be the hardest to replace, which is contrary to how they tend to pay in the present. For example, my gf is a software engineer, and she brings home 40% more than myself, a tech marketer/biz dev/applications engineer. But it's much easier to envision a machine programmed to generate code rather than one that makes plans, steers the organization through social influence, makes business decisions based on quantitative and qualitative risk, etc.

>>10709700
>my gf makes more than me but I'm really much more valuable
>COPE
>O
>P
>E
How does it feel being the woman in the relationship?

>>10709585
if they do nothing now, what makes you think robots will replace them?

>>10709370
at least your company records something.
i went to work late everyday and did the job of the position above me. come review time, i get told my punctuality is great but my performance is poor

>>10709700
you are correct. i forgot to mention that it won't just be automation - office jobs will be getting destroyed by telecommuting third-worlders too. it seems like tradies and front-facing jobs like sales and shit are the only safe bets

>>10709919
>not being alpha enough to reverse the paradigm
back to work, paypig!

>>10710119
Don't you have dishes to wash?

>>10709370
>>10709700
Nothing lasts forever OP. I also had a few comfy engineerings jobs where shit literally blindsides you. Now that Im older and wise I have a large TFSA portfolio AND an emergency fund + crypto. The ultimate goal if financial independence, all jobs suck, some more than others.

>>10710126
>2018
>manually washing dishes
do you have a washingboard for your clothes, too? guess you need to save up for her louboutins and diamond ring somehow.

>>10709919
>actually falling for the provider meme
The only thing--the ONLY thing--that defines the paradigm in a relationship is whether or not you capable of giving that good dick.
>>10710119
I'm fully aware of the white collar job migration. It's more apparent here in the SF Bay area than anywhere else. Whether it's outsourcing to "consultants," SaaS-type rackets, or just straight up displacing natives with H1B's, the outcome is the same: employers bring in cheap labor to undercut the value produced by the American worker. Which, again, brings us to the soft skill dynamic, as LingLing and Pajeet will never be able to:
1)Plan shit out properly
2)Present a pleasant customer/supplier-facing appearance
3)Get people to like them
4)Successfully tell people they're not directly in charge of to suck my FUCKING cock and do what I say

There are too many axis of scams going on at the same time. At some point it does get circular because we're trapped in our own meme bubble.
> no easy value-to-labor conversion
But this is a serious problem. Those metrics apply to the truck loader, but not to the intellectual. Let's say that part of the job of the intellectual could makes life harder for the blue collar worker even if he managed to solve what he saw as inefficiencies. If the intellectual makes a mistake that harms the grunt, he may not be easily punished, but the grunt may keep seeing that he's having a harder time affording things he could. The intellectual may even find metrics that make him look good after a fuckup. The grunt doesn't know what value-to-labor means, but he knows something isn't right and this can lead to serious problems keeping society so to say united (not only because of that, politics, media...) because people start harboring grudges. The point I think I want to make is that just because a job is being paid well doesn't mean it's benign to society, or that what's benign is what's rewarded best economically. Don't understand this as me saying that it's better if we're all picking our own tomatoes or that people with money should be resented, but that there are powerful people with agendas and what they really want is complete obedience. And just like it's easier to see why what a tomatopicker does is good, it's much harder to accept that the intellectuals have the best interest of the tomatopicker as a priority. There are jobs like cops, lawyers... that don't have great stereotypes but it's probably a good idea to have them, even if sometimes they can abuse their powers and cause harm.

>>10710567
almost all the "wageslave" problems of the labour worker is caused by his boss.
basically everyone is a retard, but the retard at the top has a lot of money

>>10709370
manual jobs are the worst.

>contracted for 12 hour shifts
>pull 18 hours to meet ludicrous deadlines
>unironically get 10 cents tip
>company ends overtime payment scheme
>cuts paid breaks
>management buy themselves new toyotas
>having to listen to these chuckle fucks promote themselves for landing that big contract when i know it was our main customer having to replace a damaged shipment.

Quit a week later, pumped up my folio, wont need to work for 5 years unless everything goes to zero.

>>10710567
>there are powerful people with agendas and what they really want is complete obedience
True to an extent, but also very misleading. As the "anointed" in that graphic would view it, the objective is to mitigate risk toward the desired endstate. Yes, obedience is a vehicle to that end in some cases, but certainly not all, and maybe even counterproductive in most. Your interpretation is a symptom of consumer-sided bias which dominates the common "tragic vision" mindset. This is certainly not a personal fault on your end; the vast majority of people have the very same outlook, since even the most production-focused people spend the vast majority of their time and money as a consumer. Try instead to think of the problem from the side of the producer and see how this issue affects your outlook toward the desired endstate.

>>10710718
The retard at the top knows he likes it there more than down. So he has a bit of a duty to keep the retards below busy before they get ideas.

>>10710880
Oh manual labor is definitely complete and total ass from the side of the employee, don't get me wrong. The focus here, though, is the producer or supply-side outlook--see >>10710880
The simple fact of the matter is that there is no way to accurately predict my monetary output. My company is basically guessing that they'll make more money than they lose by paying my salary. It's such a rough guesstimate that the "best" metric for the value of my labor is my track record for employment. 2 months ago, I was a charity higher through an inside high-level connection. No human being would even look at my resume from a cold lead. But now that I have literally 5 weeks of experience, I'm now the object of a 3-way bidding war for jobs that require 5-8 years specific industry experience on paper.

>>10710567
>my head is so far up my own ass I can see daylight ahead

>>10711057
When I was talking about obedience I wasn't thinking about a work environment, It permeates everything. There's nothing unethical about efficient production in itself. But producing addiction is often more profitable than not. A person can be a journalist reporting truth or a journalist producing more profitable takes. It's not that the journalist chooses what is more profitable, he's satisfying demands and maybe it's everyone else that doesn't want it. On the certification process in education you may have similar problems where tests reward memorization over more genuine capabilities.

Hierarchies are fine and natural, but concepts old regents considered important are basically forgotten or shunned because they get in the way of progress and the modern clerical class scares me shitless. I don't really understand the vision of the anointed because they're living in a different world than me, what I see is way more blackpill.

>>10711674
But you ARE living in the same world as "the anointed." Literally the only difference between you and the perceived ruling class is that they presently have more money than you. You're closer to greatness than any previous generation of plebs