/biz/ - Business & Finance

WHERE IS THE FUCKING FAGGOT THAT TOLD ME TO SELL YESTERDAY

>>10699951
/biz/ always buy high sell low, don't you know

I bet all those people I told to sell at $20 feel really dumb now
Oh wait

>>10699969
WHAT A COOL MEME BRO IT WAS GOING TO FIFTY CENTS

he was some asshole with a college degree and workds in a secret dapps company

>>10699984
How did u tell them to feel?

I don't really know what to do though. I know as soon as I buy back in it's going to drop. Fuck this market.

>>10699168
Dude, 24h volume is $500k. Chill the fuck out

>>10699168
we'll see who's the dumbass in about 5 days, but you're probably dumping already anyways

>>10700225
wait what? surely it's going to dip again right?

>>10700418
thats what i meant duh, this crap's going to $1

>>10700524
thank fucking god, they have announcements coming up for the conference and I need to get back in

>>10700524


Then i buy more. Its not complicated.

>>10700575

>>10700575
not recovering

>>10700543
Announcements?

>>10700677
skycoin is hosting an entire conference, I'm getting ready for that pump

>>10700785
you mean dump

>>10700800
why wouldnt announcments pump? are you a fudder?

>>10700907
What kind of announcement is the question.

>>10700907
wow are you really this much of a newfag?

In case you faggots hasn’t finished it out this pump is synth and his boys market buying all their sky back for cheap. They’ll pump it back to fomo level prices again then dump it. Rinse and repeat.

>>10701230
*figured

>>10701230
Projecting what your degen parasite ass would do instead. Actual hard work contributing to the future of civilization is incomprehensible to your type.
Ranked #1 out of selected projects by @jimtalksdata
https://twitter.com/jimtalksdata/status/902333935983751173
Ranked #13 out of 864 for project activity on cryptomiso.
https://www.cryptomiso.com
Ranked #19 out of 2341 by developer score on Coingecko.
https://www.coingecko.com/en?sort_by=developer_score
Check development progress yourself by viewing the Skycoin Github.
https://github.com/skycoin
The Skywire testnet is online and growing, with a node count of 7500 so far.
http://discovery.skycoin.net:8001/#/

>>10701230
lmao can you imagine these dudes drinking beer while they came up with skycoin
>i tell you man crypto is all the rage now
>ive been thinking about a concept to make big bucks listen up. We sell it as the new internet, made of anthennas and raspberries, distributed all over the world
>hey that might actually work
>dont be stupid. So we hype it up and give people raspberries and this coin for btc
>lmao are you serious? why would people give you their btc for your useless coin and a bunch of pis?
>wait and see
genius if you ask me

>>10701274
>hey that might actually work
>oh wait a second, no it's retarded
>but it sounds just smart enough for a scam...

>>10701292
smart enough for a scam, only viable in the cryptospace, thats right

>>10699168

crypto currency might be the future but it's a damn volatile in the meantime and this board is know for blowing shittons of money on stupid get-rich-quick strats.

remember the motto for 4chan

it's all fake, only a fool would take anything written here as fact.

>>10700907
Because there is no new money coming in? Everyone who wanted to buy has already bought.

>>10701338
Meanwhile, far away from /biz/ come deep rumblings. If you listen carefully, you may hear them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zc12ZPbMLE

>>10701274
>lol, look at these fags, they're tricking all these people into liberating themselves from ISP scams and government survelliance

>>10701515
>distributed antennae can replace the internet infrastructure which took decades and billions to build
you realize ISPs are just the middle man?

I sold at roughly 30% profit, I unironically suggest you do the same, do you really think the market forgot what happened 2 days ago? We're going right back down.

>>10701570
US ISPs intentionally drag their feet and provide shitty service because they can hide behind red tape. Service in even shitty countries like Russia or better countries like South Korea is much much better and much much cheaper than what we pay for.

Anyway, there's certain parts of internet infrastructure that just can't be upgraded well enough to be useful for MPLS and other more ideal technologies. The rest, like undersea fiber cables will be salvaged for Skywire's use.

>>10701515
here, have a dose of reality:
>The Internet backbone might be defined by the principal data routes between large, strategically interconnected computer networks and core routers on the Internet. These data routes are hosted by commercial, government, academic and other high-capacity network centers, the Internet exchange points and network access points, that exchange Internet traffic between the countries, continents and across the oceans. Internet service providers, often Tier 1 networks, participate in Internet backbone traffic by privately negotiated interconnection agreements, primarily governed by the principle of settlement-free peering.
>privately negotiated interconnection agreements
your shitcoin is going nowhere

>>10701611
>The rest, like undersea fiber cables will be salvaged for Skywire's use.
thats beyond delusion

>>10701614
We're aware of this mechanic. It's a way for governments to make sure they have a choke point they can monitor.

There's various ways to get around it, including getting to the point that independently owned cable laying is feasible. It's not just national agreements that have these intercontinental gateways, but corporations too, and they'll be the first to convert part of their traffic to Skywire.

>>10701628
Or we'll lay our own, like I said in the post before this. Anyway, there's several different ways to accomplish these things and the free market will find a way to do it. Skycoin won't be doing these things themselves, they'll be giving independent operators the tools to execute these concepts.

>>10701634
>independently owned cable laying is feasible
lmao have fun loading a youtube video in 36 hours

>>10701655
With MPLS I'll be able to pull that video from multiple sources, and chances are, if someone's already requested it in my area once, it'll be cached on their skyminer and I'll just download it much more quickly from them.

That independently owned cable will handle MPLS traffic only, meaning much less congestion and better load times than the thousands of people trying to stick their dick in the traditional TCP/IP routes.

>>10701634
>>10701647
you just dont get it do you? this stuff has long been settled, just like phone companies. Do you see any independent phone companies? oil companies? pharma companies? no, its been monopolized and if something revolutionary was threatening their business, they would be building it themselves.
Your shitcoin only holds value cause this is crypto. Had they started a gofundme or any of those startup money raising things they wouldnt have raised even 10k, cause people who actually have a clue know this project is 100% nonsense

>>10701647
ever wondered why there are no legit network engineers on the team or even in the community?

>>10701686
>it'll be cached on their skyminer
yeah after traveling half the word across through sky antennas right? top fucking lel

>>10701687
Yeah, yeah, they said the same thing about taxi companies. Community-owned ISPs out in Colorado and other midwest states do exist with varying levels of success.

The overall concept for Skycoin actually brings incentive to the table. It creates a closed loop economy that gives people a real reason to give a shit about beaming wifi over that mountain range or out to that island.

>>10701693
There are.

>>10701694
Yeah, because torrenting was such a technological failure, lol

>>10701745
here, let me spell it out again for you:
>Internet backbone
>strategically interconnected computer networks and core routers
>privately negotiated interconnection agreements
man those bags must be really heavy

>>10701745
>There are.

I'm on the telegram of skywire and skycoin, where are those network engineers you mention? I would love to pick their brain.

>>10701745
torrents still depend on your ISP AND the internet backbone infrastructure. You are talking about doing away with it

>>10701763
Lol, the future is now old man. You really should read up more on modern tech.

Men in suits in beige rooms can't stop this. It's a whole $3k to set up a backhaul antenna.

>>10701769
@skywire

Stop by any time, please. I'll be glad to answer your questions.

>>10701773
Nah, I just gave an example of successful distributed storage. I never said doing away, I said replacing.

>>10701614
It's not as clunky and tenuous as your pasta seems to indicate. Interconnectivity is critical for many industries and a matter of national security for state actors. Skywire is not the internet, it is a separate publicly accessible global network. Such networks, albeit private, have been in use for over a decade by government, banks, and corporations. They give more reliability, security, and performance than the internet we are accustomed to. Skywire simply intends to roll out this technology in a way that is accessible to smaller businesses and the public at large. This will have enormous economic implications, so Skywire is pretty exciting stuff. Skycoin, being a superior blockchain cryptocurrency with numerous innovations and improvements over older cryptos, does not depend on Skywire to have meaning; while Skywire, being a system for decentralized SDN could operate without Skycoin. The reason that the Skycoin project is building Skywire, is to create an application to drive adoption and growth of an ecosystem that will contribute to economic activity involving not only Skycoin and Skyledger, but other cryptocurrencies as well. As it is with all things in real life, don't think that this project is something where you can just sit on your ass and let the Skycoin team do everything. Skywire requires the active involvement of participating communities, hence the incentive for participation. How long it takes to reach the vision of a decentralized internet, and the degree of it's decentralization will depend on the behavior of it's community members.

>>10701789
running out of arguments i see. So you wish to replace ISPs with your shit antennas and nodes, ok. Good luck replacing those privately negotiated interconnection agreements.. maybe in 50 years. If not better start laying those cables LMAO

>>10699951
>reverse search
>no results
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>>10701266

>>10701805
still cant explain how you can watch a video stream from the other part of the globe at decent quality/speed without using the already existing internet infrastructure for which there are agreements worth billions that only ISPs can touch. The other dude said 'we'll just lay our own cables', what do you say?

>>10701807
I haven't run out of arguments. We've already discussed that there's private companies that own cables as well, that don't rely on international agreements. Feel free to actually address the point that there's financial incentive to do these things and independent operators will find the best way.

>>10701857
independent operators cant touch those massive cables without going to jail. Who's gonna spend the billions to lay independent cables across the ocean for your network, Synth? you guys are deluded bagholders, face it

>>10701856
>only ISP's can touch.
Tell that to the Banks, Governments, and major corporations.

>>10701886
they have deals worth billions too, does your little project got billions to make those deals aswell?

>>10701882
hahaha, you're just pulling stuff out of your ass now
Go wrap your brain around the sheer number of cables out there and the sheer number of companies operating them https://www.submarinecablemap.com/#/submarine-cable/seabras-1

>N-no! They won't let you! It's hopeless!
kek

>>10701923
you're just proving my point. You wish to replace them with.. antennas and 'independent cable laying' ?

>>10701882
>All good goys cuck and grovel, you wouldn't want to end up in jail would you?
This argument is regularly applied when attempting to manipulate competition regarding innovation of any kind. Besides, current global fibeoptic infrastructure operates far below capacity today. Fiberoptic cables can transmit signals of different wavelengths simultaneously, in addition, high grade fiberoptic cables are able to maintain polarization of signals, so that many separate degrees of polarized signals may pass simultaneously on a single fiber optic cable. All of this has decreased the cost of Fiber optic infrastructure tremendously.

>>10702020
alright better start laying that fiber optic now, hey its cheap now right?
Maybe if you were actually innovating you could compete. For now, you are just another shitcoin with all talk and little results

>>10702046
>...current global fibeoptic infrastructure operates far below capacity today.
>alright better start laying that fiber optic now, hey its cheap now right?
Your desperation is showing.

>>10702062
what part of 'there are agreements worth a LOT of money to use that infrastructure' did you not get? You are the desperate idiot who bought this shitcoin, not me lol. You probably bought in April/May and it shows

>>10702087
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interconnect_agreement
"Interconnect agreements are found both in the public switched telephone network and the Internet."
There it is, your billion dollar agreements only apply to the internet and telephone services. Do you not understand that the internet is defined by routing, not physical infrastructure. There are other global networks that send packets over the same infrastructure, and Skywire will do the same. Skywire introduces its own routing solution, therefore is not relevant to existing internet routing agreements. What part of this do you not understand?

>>10702144
>global networks that send packets over the same infrastructure
and they pay too, will you pay aswell? oops, looks like your network is not that free from corporate control after all. Also, have fun dealing with current telecommunication laws. I can legit see synth at the forefront of changing these law so they adapt to his 'product'...

Ok, maybe you're too stupid to understand it yet. Let me put it a different way. Routing requires computation, storage and bandwidth. Skyminers provide computation, storage and bandwidth. Interconnection agreements cover compensation for accessing the computation, storage and bandwidth of a 3rd party. Skycoin covers compensation for accessing the computation, storage and bandwidth of Skyminers.

>>10702225
your shitminers and shitcoin cant compete with the efficiency of centralized computation put in place by multi billion dollar companies. You are deluded and you have been btfo

>>10702235
no u

>>10702235


You got an awful lot to say about a project you 'Don't like' lol

Your intentions are crystal clear. Also the price is heavily manipulated by bots, try to buy and instantly a sell will come in. Someone or more some people are desperate to get Skycoin cheap cause they know where this is going.

>>10702271
>>10702273
>no arguments
>must be fud to get in cheap!
yeah.. stay deluded

>>10702293
>25 posts in this thread
Don't give up, anon. Only you can save us from the evil Skycoin!

>>10702326
nigger if i wanted to get in i would've at the last dip, it was cheap enough (-95% from ath!!). I've tried discussing the fundamental with skyfags and all i get is a bunch of nonsense so im staying clear. This was my last attempt to see if there was actually something going on but looks like its just another scam. Overtaking the ISP overlords and current infrastructure put in place so we can communicate this fast with a bunch of raspberries and antennas, only a fool would believe it but this is crypto and thats why it still worth something. But not for long..

>Skycoin mooning in the background.

>>10702360
kek

Sky is still tearing it up. If it dips a bit I might buy. Been waiting to get in on this shit but with all the fud and counter fud I couldn’t make a decision. Seems like it’s back and legit though.

>>10702293

Your argument is you can't see how the status quo can't be challenged by new innovation....But thats dumb. And if you don't think Crypto can't challenge the financial system then you don't get it and if you think larger companies could never be challenged by newer ways and better ways of doing things then I think you are wrong....stupidly wrong.

*And heres a hint.....Skycoin WILL be a billion dollar company normskie.

>btfo
But he said this anon.

>>10702360
Don't give up! Maybe try starting a new thread? That would let you start out strong shilling Holo.

>>10702388
>>10702468
>>10702497
describe step by step how an email is sent from the U.S to Japan using the Sky network and i might reconsider

>>10702535

Fucking Jap Carrier pigeon what the fuck else?

>>10702535
Im waiting..
> *crickets*
I like the concept. I really do. But its just not realistic and you know it. You're just waiting for it to pump on hype again so you can curse the next generation of bagholders and take their money. Pic related is how much faith you skyfags actually have in your project.
>>10702618
>when lacking in knowledge, resort to jokes
classic

>>10702642

Why u here though?

>>10702535
How about you explain to me step by step how when you push buttons on your keyboard, such idiotic stuff ends up posted on /biz/.

>>10702649
>>10702654
none of you can explain how something as simple as an email is sent across the sea using your network, and this is the future? where you're putting your money?

>>10702649
i want to understand your tech, but looks like there is none or you're all brainlets

>>10702661
The people who know tech tend to be terrible investors and stay poor from my experience.

>>10702671
so where are the actual tech guys? you know, the ones you are trusting your money with? as this >>10701769 guy pointed out, which this guy >>10701795 replied to then disappeared from the thread after getting asked sensible, logical questions. Nothing fishy here, nope..

>>10702688
Dude I don't know how to use my TV what the fuck has that got to do with anything? How does that reflect on Skycoin?

I do know who seems to know what they are talking about though. Synth worked on Bitcoin core ifs. He's clearly a smart guy. So why don't you talk to him about your big ideas why the project him and his team have been working on for years doesn't work. Join the Telegram now and lets see the responses you get.

>>10702708
were you investing in TVs before they even came out?
>just talk to Synth
riight and face an army of shills obfuscating the discussion
>talk to him in private
like he would respond..
>he's clearly a smart guy
no shit, you gotta be to scam so many people. But only cause he did it with crypto, outside this space no one would've taken him seriously

>>10702535
im still waiting... anyone? shills sure jump straight to the technicals when dealing with other projects but this one?

I'm on the telegram asking your question, do you want an answer or just want to bitch like a little girl?

>>10702750
go ahead explain. Remember, step by step, what each data packet does

4chan won't let me post the telegram group link, why dont you go ask yourself? I dont know shit about tech so its irrelevant I just look at economic social benefits of a project and if the team seem legit. I dont know how Bitcoin works BUT that has nothing to do with me and so as you have made it about the tech then I wonder if you have the balls to follow through?

Ball seems in your court

Go fella, prove me your aren't full of shit.

>>10702798
ahaa werent you asking? just copy paste the answers. See you are a bullshitter and so is this project. Absolute bullshit

>>10702808
im not getting into your shit telegram, explain it here so all /biz/ can see

>>10702758
>34 posts, impressive.
Irrelevant question says more about your lack of understanding than anything, desu. SMTP and POP are application layer protocols, authentication is handled by centralized servers. Lots of people use ISP provided email, web-email, company email, self maintained email servers. The routing for emails between these servers has nothing to do with Skywire. Skycoin team is working on the basics of Skywire right now, there will be email on Skywire, but it probably will use CXO. Email between Skywire email servers would of course travel only over Skywire, while emails destined or originating from the clearnet would have to pass through a ipv4/v6 gateway. Keep in mind that Skywire will not reach it's final stage overnight. adoption happens slowly, and varies greatly among the stratified demographics. Inb4 you are dissatisfied with this answer.

>>10702813

Hers your answer, Apologise.lol

>>10702819
>centralized servers
woops, looks like we're back to ISPs

>>10702818
Sure buddy, instead of going to ask the devs in the place they are, you demand them to come here at your service. Go fuck yourself, with all due respect.

>>10702829
>longer distance antennas
lmao
>fiber can get across the ocean
so you're gonna use existing fibre optic infrastructure. Who will pay for that? The user right? uhmm, something tells me you're gonna pay 10x what you pay now for your internet, for a slower service

Talk of Satellites as well as the project matures.

>>10702835
this is the thread, the discussion originated here and the question was asked here. I didnt ask for any of the devs to come explain it, i asked you skyfags holders and you want to sent me to your telegram cause no one here actually has a clue about how this project is supposed to work.

>>10702841
yeah you will fund those sattelites with hype right? cause until you got sattelites, you cant even send an email across the sea without paying the fibre optic corps a couple billions, which you also dont have

>>10702854
The project is unfinished, a lot of challenges are still to be solved, and several groups work in several topics. You are asking the average biz-sky-fag to explain to you in detail the whole tested and final infrastructure. So no, that's not gonna happen, with skycoin or any other project out there. Do you believe things are unsolvable or non profitable? Ok, then get out and so something productive.

Now, if you ask me:
-I believe Skywire is a of now the most feasible solution for an alternative, neutral www. If it fails, I don't see another taking its place, thus I cannot bet in an alternative (tell us which one if you know another one).
-Even as subnetworks (let's say, in cities or countries, then connecting to the regular Internet) I see a lot of economic potential for Skywire (Middle East, Asia, Africa, etc.)
-Skywire is just a fraction of Skycoin. I also have great hopes for CX and parallel chains.

>>10702861
Again, you are being short-sighted. This is a 5-10 years thing, at least.

>>10702832
POP authentication is conventional email protocol. Has nothing to do with Skywire, but you didn't know that.
>>10702840
The payment for colocation space for Skywire nodes located there is the responsibility of the company that operates the Skywire nodes. The Skywire foundation will be particularly interested in monitoring the economic viability of such nodes to ensure they are incentivized.

>>10702896
>You are asking the average biz-sky-fag to explain to you in detail the whole tested and final infrastructure
im not. Im asking how a simple data packet is sent across the sea. All i got was evasives, cause newsflash, you cant. If you cant send a simple data packet across the sea, noone is adopting shit.
Describe Skywire in your own words.

>>10702898
still wont answer how you send a simple data packet from the U.S to Japan using Skywire

>>10702912
>Im asking how a simple data packet is sent across the sea.
For several years, using current infrastructure. Eventually, encrypted to no ISP would have a clue of its content or try to censore it.
In the future, hopefully, using already technically possible solutions. The hope we have, as investors, is that those solutions would become cheaper or the project would get wealthy enough.

Do you invest in other crypto projects or stock companies? I want to test you.

>>10702861
>fund satellites with hype
The other way around. Today Satellites are not economically viable, so where one satellite may be launched to generate hype, subsequent satellites will have drastically diminishing returns. But there is alot of talk about space mining operations in the near future. Such activities strongly incentivize the development of cheaper technologies for accessing orbit. This would obviously drive down the cost of satellites and make them more viable.

>>10702918
I did explain it
>>10702819

>>10702928
>using current infrastructure
so why would i use your slower, more expensive service instead of ISPs?
>inb4 muh censorship or surveillance, as if normies give a shit
if normies are not adopting it, you are not funding any future solutions..

>>10702798
>I just look at economic social benefits of a project and if the team seem legit

you deem this team legit?

>>10702943
>The routing for emails between these servers has nothing to do with Skywire
>there will be email on Skywire
so how is the email sent across the sea using skywire?

>>10702946
Fuck normies, you brainlet. Go ask an african, middle east or chinese person to use a fucking normal ISPs over what Skywire will be able to provide in a matter of months. Take your head out of your ass.

So I need to get coinhours first somewhere somehow before I get online, then I pay these for each minute I am online or for each MB I use?

then I am able to surf the net anonymously however all my transactions all still visible on the blockchain?

yes this makes sense

>>10702970
>sorry, you ran out of skyhours! please buy another one for $50

>>10702959
I told you what email is since you didnt know, and then you failed to comprehend my explanation. Try KYS?

>>10702984
i dont want to know how email works, i want to know how you send it across the sea using YOUR network, brainlet

>>10702984
>>10702993
but lets make it simpler, forget about email and think of a single 32-bit network data packet. How is it sent from the US to Japan using Skywire?

>>10702977
Coinhour transactions are offchain. Besides, you should be able to have slow basic internet access on Skywire without paying anything. This may depend on the economy of your region.

>>10703003
You don't know how packets work either. Waste my time you fucking irate bottom selling twat, KYS.

>>10703012
oh ok, so this thing is going to take over but I still should have free access to the internet in another way. Let me just get to the McDonalds and buy me some coinhours so I can download this movie.

>>10703031
>no answer, resorts to insults
>the packets travel through Skywire
>but Skywire does not have the funds or infrastructure in place to send a single data packet through the ocean, so will have to pay for existing one already under control
nice, future of the internet here guys

>>10702979
How would you define that green text of yours,: an argument, a prediction, or a big pile of shit because you are out of ideas?

Some poor souls paid more than half their income on internet already. Don't be an idiot and, if not supporting possible solutions, at least stop destructive criticism. You could help if you want, check the repo.

>>10703063
>Some poor souls paid more than half their income on internet already

show me, because it doesnt make sense

>>10703040
Thats fine, Skywire is largely business facing, as is Skyledger. Normies need not apply for adoption untill way later in the game.

>>10703058
>thinks i'm even a developer or engineer for the project
I am an investor of Skycoin, i did my due dilligence. You have not.

>>10703063
nobody can answer how you plan to send a single data packet through the ocean using your network, which is KEY for adoption. The only answer you can give is use current infrastructure in place which defeats the whole purpose, because then you are subject to the same laws as ISPs and same prices, which doesnt make you competitive, does it?
You have evaded this arguments the whole thread and it shows your bags are heavy. Fucking scammers

>>10703073

https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2017/11/22/the-most-and-least-expensive-countries-for-broadband-infographic/#59277d5723ef

http://a4ai.org/mobile-broadband-pricing-data/

>>10703104
The law cannot affect a content that is encrypted because the law doesn't know what that content is. And many countries, USA included, have mafia like ISP pricing. When they start charging for what you use your network for, remember this conversation. Also, you are assuming the current ISPs are the only ones that will ever be. But whatever.

>>10703112
I bet you are really good at math and interpreting statistics.

>>10703131
you are gonna shit on the law while using the multi billion dollar fibre optic infrastructure, riiiiiighttt. Peak delusion

>>10703104
t. pic related

>>10703157
>his little investment got exposed as the scam it is, the desperate bagholder resorts to stupid pics that arent even original (thread pic)

>>10703144
Congratulations, you have made a worst reply than >>10702979
I repeat it: there are population that need to spend at lest half their income on internet/data. I provided some sources. What does my math and statistics skills has to do with it, genious?
Anyway, I need to do some stuff and got enough of you. Good luck with whatever you are up to.

>>10703182
your network, if its ever able to send data across the sea, will be MORE expensive than current ISPs lmao

well /biz/ we can conclude that Skycoin is a scam and skylets, who are already on suicide watch, are definitely offing themselves when this crap dies. It wasn't that hard, just the very basic question no one asked: how to send data across the sea with this network?
I will remind them of this on every Sky thread i come across. Exposing scams is fun. Skylets keep making money off this crap while you still can and remember: its going to zero eventually

Scam coin these fags havent done SHIT in the last 3 months beside add BINANCE COIN storage to their wallet. Still havent heard back from diy whitelisting and it's been 3 months. These faggot retards just admitted obelisk is a lie they've abandoned and they don't even have a consesus algorithM, AFTER 7 YEARS. until they get some shit together FUCKING SCAM

>>10703558
Not to mention coin hours dont function as they say and you lose 100% of your coinhours on any outbound transaction you make.

>>10703576
these people dont give a shit about the project i already tried, they just wanna trade the candles thats all. Its the same with every crypto

>>10699168
>What were u thinking not buying UNIRONICALLY ANYTHING as yesterday's prices. You should be ashamed of your stupidity.

>>10703662
this

>>10701940
Yeah. It's not a difficult concept. Better than having my dick pics scraped and stored by every government and corporation on the face of the planet.

>>10702235
>efficiency
The funniest thing about you going there is that ISPs only compete with each other to see who can dump packets off on each other the fastest.

They get paid to 'pass the baton' only, so that video gets hot potatoed back and forth via TCP/IP between five companies while you're waiting on it to buffer.

>>10702360
Anon, you sound tired. Maybe you should get some sleep? Distributed internet seems to be keeping you up at night.

Can someone read this and tell me if this shitcoin is actually a scam or not?
https://www.skycoin.net/blog/overview/skywire---skycoin-meshnet-project/

>>10702535
>>10702748
>be in California
>hit send on SkyMail message
>my dick pics going to some girl in Japan
>my message and dick picks are encrypted and sent
>MPLS determines that there's four nodes nearby that are ideal to start uploading pieces of my message and start transferring to Japan
>1/4 of my message hits a skyminer on the other side of the city via wifi beam
>that miner is on a physical network across that section of city
>another wifi backhaul hop to the gateway point of an underwater cable
>gets to Japan
>six more hops before getting to the thot's SkyMail server dapp at her home's skyminer
>the other 3/4 parts of my message are doing this, getting there simultaneously.
>she gets a notification on her phone that she's received a message at her SkyMail server
>opens it
>swoons over my throbbing oiled cock on a cutting board next to slices of steak

Simple as that, little buddy.

>>10702688
I'm still here, roodypoo. Ask away.

Man imagine all the newfags falling for this pathetic excuse of a project

>>10702818
>n-no! I'm not going to ask questions given the opportunity!

hahahahahahahahahaha, you disingenuous shit. You can ask them and post the exchange here but we know you won't

>>10702832
He said that's the way it's handled now, not the way it would be under Skywire.

>>10702661
>>10702667
>>10702688
>>10702758
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>>10702854
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>>10703003
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>>10703192
>>10703380

Just for the convenience of anyone else reading, see >>10704274

>>10699951
>nintendo switch

>>10699168
i bought what i could, but i'm really upset that my most recent bitcoin order hasn't come through in time for me to do some major accumulating

>>10704274
>>10704317
>>10704340
>>10704368
>>10704430
>gateway point of an underwater cable
>gets to Japan
>underwater cable
the only point you conveniently avoided to adress. You know how much these underwater cables cost? You know who owns them? Are you and your little skyfag buddies gonna finance their own underwater cables? Didnt think so.. you gonna use existing ones for which:
1) you gotta pay big bucks
2) you gotta respect and obey existing laws
3) you gonna have your traffic pass through corporate control points anyway, so your dick pick is in the NSA database even if encrypted with your shit methods. Besides encrypting every single packet would only make your network slower, and in this age, its all about speed.
You are scammers plain and simple and this crap wont be talked about anymore in less than 3 years. You will remember me, faggot

This kills the Skylet:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transatlantic_communications_cable
See all those corps owning these cables. You gonna have to offer them a way better deal than they currently have. Who's gonna pay for it, Synth?

>>10704183
>https://www.skycoin.net/blog/overview/skywire---skycoin-meshnet-project/
it's a scam

>>10704892
>>10705297
It's hilarious that you think there's this magic international internet authority that dictates international connections with an iron fist. It's encrypted traffic.

Even if existing companies are to be used, In this scenario, there's literally 14+ cables to choose from. It's as easy as calling up the company.

Even if we wanted to keep the argument to strict wifi usage, there's plenty of powered cities that work point to point from CA to JPN.

Anyway, you're arguing against the invisible hand of the free market in its purest form. You won't win.

>>10705493
the market wins, and the market chooses speed and cheap over decentralization/uncensorable/encrypted. Do you realize the amount of traffic that moves between continents, and you wanna use long distance antennae? dont make me laugh..
>It's as easy as calling up the company.
hey, we wanna use your cable. You will have the same traffic as before cause its only switching hands, but we will pay you less to remain competitive, are you ok with this?

>>10704892
>>10705586
>muh normies like me can't fathom establishing companies or investing in infrastructure.
>muh communist government micromanages everything in the whole world.
>muh all packets use exactly the same protocols.
>muh encrypted with shit methods.
>muh ISP gravytrain is cheaper than disintermediation.
On Skywire mainnet, nodes located in colocation centers will receive the most traffic, and therefore be compensated the most for bandwidth. In exchange for that, they have to pay rent to the colo. These nodes will typically be owned and operated by an LLC. Colocation centers provide a service that includes physical security, space, supply of electricity, cooling, and industrial grade bandwidth connections internationally and overseas.

>>10705641
there is no disintermediation, you're still paying the cable corps their due share if you want your network to be functional.
>Colocation centers provide a service that includes physical security, space, supply of electricity, cooling, and industrial grade bandwidth connections internationally and overseas.
We already have this and they've been in business for a long time. How exactly are you gonna take their market again?
Im not saying this shit is impossible, im saying you need tens of billions to do it. Do you have billions? does the collective skyfag bagholders have billions? Does synth have billions?
>we slowly build and invest in infrastructure, this is long term and only the beggining
you dont do shit, you trade your shitcoin in binance for btc and thats it. If your product is not functional and useful until you own some underwater cables which cost hundreds of millions its never gonna take off. Period

>>10699951
S O Y L E N T

>>10705715
>ISPs throughout most of the world don't rent their internet just like everyone else does.
>End user home internet services are identical to business services and are no more exploitative.
>The world is always as it is in the present.
>economic incentives don't motivate human action.
>muh Synth.
Absolute normie, go back to your fantasy feedback loop.

>>10705783
pls no bully :(

>>10705941
so you will rent the internet just like the ISP, what makes you different again? you will be the same but slower cause distributed computing is less efficient in hardware, you will never compete. How many of those raspberries do you need to match the computing power of current established centralized computer infrastructure you absolute brainlet

>>10705941
you are the one in a fantasy feedback loop. Im talking reality, you're talking about 'muh future skyminers and skywire will replace ISPs' only cause you hold some bags. Wonder what your project would be worth if it wasnt for btc

>>10706255
mpls and modern hardware is faster though, my area currently uses DSL phone lines

The whole point is that skywire is a completely different networking protocol

If pajeet in New Zealand downloads a video of Allah beheading an infidel from someone in Sweden, his neighbour in New Zealand doesn't then download the whole thing again from Sweden, he downloads it directly from his neighbour.

It also changes http shit to blockchain address so that you dont get dead links everywhere

Still, the wireless meshnet isnt happening for 8+ years and by then white people will be dead so there will be noone left to implement it
Synth is deluded or in denial about the antennas

>>10706677
>implying whites aren't constructing a meshnet of doomsday shelters in Antartica while they let the sub-90 IQ hoards drive themselves extinct

>>10706677
>he downloads it directly from his neighbour
now translate that concept, with the video, to the trillions of terabytes circulating and you end up with centralized data centers anyway that store all that data and have insane upload speeds, cause thats what you need too, upload speed

>>10706867
mpls supports multiple connections, traditional tcp/ip does not; upload will be faster

>>10706677
>>10706993
>>10706677
i understand the concept and as i said before i like it, but if we ever see it being established it wont be fucking skywire lol, cause they dont have the real funds to pull this shit off, you need to start with multi billion dollar investment to make it work, something sky doesnt have. Raspberries just dont cut it, you need thousand cores cpu the size of your fingerprint and stack them and distribute them all over the world. You need to code billions of lines to adapt to this parallelism, the list goes on. Its something we may see in 15-25 years and it wont be skywire, cause they dont have access to the hardware and software required. The thousand core cpu project which exists was bought by darpa and sold to the jews, they are probably thinking of this and are 20 steps ahead. You got raspberries and antennae

>>10707063
I see you don't work in networking, got it.

>guys, this is a twenty story building, there's just NO way we can get wires up more than four floors we're probably going to need billions of servers to stack on each other to get the cables to reach

>>10707063
this, ever wondered why liberty global isn't doing this? They have all the infra and budget needed

>>10707063
The ONLY thing that is pie in the sky is Synth's delusion with these chink made antennas that he think are just going to drop on a few houses and work in a few months

They will need several 10s of thousands of users actually motivated to work on this to get anywhere near a meshnet

Other than that it will all work. Skywire WILL be a better version of TOR in the foreseeable future

>>10707123
i see you lack reading comprehension and just farted the first thing that came to your mind

>>10707179
they are in testing phase most likely, tech like this is first used in the military

>>10707240
lol, not my fault you're on the sidelines whinging about what you think others should give up on, these things you're whining about as impossible aren't nearly as impossible as your limited worldview thinks

>>10707179
because planting antennas on assorted properties is expensive as fuck, makes it a whole lot easier and less expensive when you have people that own their own property and can spend a few thousand on something that earns them money

>>10707272
its not a limited worldview, its having a minimum understanding of how shit works, which makes you understand what doesnt work. No amount of wishful thinking can make something not technically and economically feasible into a reality, and it seems you skylets are pure wishful thinking. When you are writing to me on this board using Skywire, then you can say im a dumbass, until then im gonna assume its a scam by default, cause its on the fucking crypto market for fucks sake, no one can take you seriously

>>10707314
>I set up my wifi router so I KNOW AND YOU DON'T

lol, k https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

I'm literally posting by Skywire right now, btw.

>>10707296
so why isnt everybody mining? it earns money. Cause you gotta invest, and cause you gotta have at least a clue about what you're doing. Something your average person does not. You say you give a shit about normies, but talk about scaling this into worldwide use. Wishful thinking..

>>10707337
and its going right into your isp lol, might as well just use a common modem brainlet

>>10707339
Because a small number of people snatched up all the decent video cards.

Neat thing about Skywire is that by nature it can't be taken over like BTC mining has been. Tech nerds with enough knowledge will set up their own and profit the most. Others will enjoy the luxury of renting or leasing their property for antenna/miner equipment. There will be companies that come and do setup for people, about like how vending machine companies come out and install/operate soda machines at different properties.

>>10707359
For now.

>>10706255
>>10706310
ISP's resell their service and the cartel economy they enjoy allows them to provide poor quality service and subject their userbase to numerous dangers, such as censorship and surveillance. Over the last 10 years many people have seen rising internet service charges and declining quality. This affects small businesses along with consumers. Yet you do not understand how disintermediating ISPs could be of any value and I'm the brainlet. Skyminers run their nodes in a cluster. The caching, forwarding, and cryptographic workload are spread out evenly between each node. Your "computing power" is not measured by raw power, it is measured by energy efficiency. ISPs are incentivized to avoid routing and bandwidth costs to maintain higher capacity, hence hot potato routing. Skywire nodes are incentivized to accept as much load as possible, the complete opposite. MPLS and SDN allow for advanced routing where connections can be directly routed for low latency or simultaneous routing through multiple routes for bandwidth aggregation. The one drawback to Skywire is that it depends on adoption, but this can and will be bootstrapped with outreach and incentives.

>>10707461
you're missing the other major drawback, which is you also rent internet from the same people the ISPs do. They have deals, agreements and there are even laws about it. You plan to just show up, steal the traffic from the ISPs while using the same infrastructure as them, and the cable owners will just be ok with it? you think all these corps owners are not buddies and will shut your network down by not allowing a single data packet go through the ocean? how do you plan to send data across the atlantic with your skywire?

>>10707359
you can suck my dick when skywire overtakes TOR, even without the antennas, cos that is what will happen

facebook, google, amazon, selling your data isnt going to go away, the demand for decentralised internet where these apps are built in a way that each user physically controls their data is only going to grow

>>10707397
if there is a remote chance of this working trust me im the first to jump in, but i currently see no solution to the trans continental telecommunications issue..if you use existing fibre optics, you're already prone to censorship and surveillance to its back to square one

>>10707571
anon if your data goes across the ocean, your data is being sold anyway, doesnt matter if you are your own damn isp

>>10707558
>colocation centers are illegal, its stealing from ISPs
Skywire isn't even subversive. Its mostly business facing. You really don't understand creation, only destruction.

>>10707643
didnt mean literally stealing brainlet, but they sure would see it as that at worse, at best healthy competition easily crushed with a few phonecalls..

>>10707630
you are a clueless cunt who doesnt understand the internet

>>10707894
>implying you do
if you did you wouldnt be holding those heavy, heavy bags

>>10707613
Even if you're right and somehow undersea cable operators hate money, the world is connected enough and mpls works well enough that it's not an issue since the hardware isn't from the 80's.