/biz/ - Business & Finance

My account size is average!

First for HCLP getting crushed (kek)

>>10672367
Buy vechain

Getting absolutely JUSTed today lads. Is there any hope left?

She said my account size didn't matter

Sale soon lads

>>10672390
>Not buying after this dip
Neveh gunna make it

How do we capitalize on this tip off?

DO NOT BUY AMD
SELL ALL YOUR INTEL
I envy youse able to get in on DRUS, I'm restricted from the market

>letting her see the account size before you’re finished
Always trade with the lights off lads

>>10672426
>don't buy AMD
Fuck off shill

we crash soon bros

>>10672417
Long Coffee, Long prisions, short Brazil?

>>10672431
>he didn't buy back AMD at 18.92 on Friday
D-d-did you buy AMD at 19.84 today?

RED DAY

the 'Daq will carry us to the green

MY OILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>10672454
I bought it for 19.13
And I'd like for it to break 20

>>10672446
Give an ETA
inb4 NAO

>>10672454
>>10672431
>>10672426
AMD Bellow 19.30 is always worth buying. In the 18s? I buy even more.

>>10672474
don't worry, it'll bounce back

>>10672426

Time to short AMD. pic very related

>>10672514
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>10672417
BZQ

Are we at support yet? HORY SHET.

>>10672496
I panic sold the /biz/ way

>>10672514
well fuck
they had a good run while it lasted
$10 here we come

Roach tribe burns
Grug's rock collection warm!

>>10672476
Oh so you're holding
I sold at 19.80 today, originally had it at 19.65 but kept watching the lira
once I saw that fucking dip in the USDTRY I adjusted to sell 19.80
missed my mark by a few cents up since it went higher, but bought back at 19.55
this shit prints money
>>10672484
After the ER it's going to stay a solid 20+ I think

>>10672514
I trust mommy Su, she'll make sure they're asians and very likely distant relatives of the family

jesse christ
this most wrong plan 4 2 day has every been
;_;

me really need for trade on better plat form that supports stops

>>10672514
>why is there a photo of a guy there, he must be an executive lobbying for more female employees either that or.... or somethinggggodallmighty that's technically a woman!?

>>10672585
rumored to be the niece of NVIDIA's CEO as well, if you missed that

we're in what would be considered a sideways market, right?

>>10672595
y-yeah
s-sure

Silver 14.99
We did it

OP is a tripfag, we staying red

HMNY JUST WENT GREEN!!!!!! 10k PER SHARE EOM!!!!!

They're really TRYing hard not to make it go above 7. It's gonna be like this to closing isn't it.

>>10672567
if it's a red day

then why IS GPRO STILL AT 6???
RELEASE YOUR MAGIC YOU FUCKING HARPY
5.43 BREAK EVEN I'M STILL HOLDING THE PUTS

>>10672594
Yes I did miss that. I haven't been following AMD and haven't checked into SMG in a few days.
Funny that nepotism is still alive and well.

>>10672514
Fuck the h8rs

>>10672616

>>10672616
here we go

>>10672633
it's not nepotism if you're Han Chinese m8
it's just China

HMNY UP 8%!!!!!! ITS HABBENING!!!!!

>>10672616

About two more years before recession hits if the correlation works out like the 3 last dips, stay safe!

HMNY AT 0.002 PRE SPLIT

WE MADE IT BOYS

>>10672594
>>10672662
W...wait? Is that true? I've never heard that before but damn do they look alike. It'd make so much sense...

Come on HMNY, don't fail me now

>>10672694
It's just gotta break resistance now

Look at that volume

>>10672624
GPRO extremely undervalued atm
If the market not crash on Friday it would be $8

AMD is going to hire more women and still do better such is the power of Su.

>>10672426
Good lord. Even with DRUS, my day change is getting perilously close to the red. I'm only $50 up now. I was $300 up this morning.

>>10672694
Does anyone have an estimate of what fair value of HMNY should be?
>Inb4 0

VIX at 14.88 lol

>>10672567
if only you would have joined the discord back
when we were allowing loser traders lol

>>10672755
Based off of debt the fair value would be negative.

Feels good easing into NFLX

>>10672755
Unironically zero, should be delisted

>>10672755
Somewhere below zero would be my guess.

>>10672710
it's just a rumor, no confirmations

>>10672748
on the bright side,
DRUS CEO expressed an ambition of $1 EOY to get properly listed
so HODL for all you're worth

>>10672662
>Han Chinese
Extinct race is extinct. They've been raped by Mongols and Japanese too many times.

What does /smg/ think about paper stocks? How long after tariffs go into play on the 23rd should I wait to buy?

>>10672713
>>10672716

cumming buckets

>>10672806
i like KMB and IP

session music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIPZyDyGsBY

>>10672755
negative 25 dollars per share

and that's not a joke, that's their current price to book

>>10672802
So long as the dream is alive
That is not dead which can eternal lie
And with strange aeons even death may die
TOP KEK THEY DID IT AGAIN TO THE LIRA

Wow. WTF is going on with HEAR?

>>10672496
>D-D-Don't w-worry g-guise i-it'll bounce b-back
Bullfags are hilarious

>>10672846
>overvalued stock is correcting
>Wow! WTF

>>10672846
turns out 800% growth is unsustainable, who could have guessed?

Thanks DRUMPF!!

Sector wide dump for two reasons:
>Canopy financials out tomorrow and expected to underwhelm
>Ontario new premier Ford expected to announce hybrid private/government weed sales plan this evening (people selling uncertainty)

I don't recommend bottom fishing just yet. If Canopy's financials are poor as expected, tomorrow likely to be red as well.

TBP looking bullish though. Up 6% because weed pharma is a different animal than rec sales and I think people are finally starting to get wise to that.

>>10672854
It'll bounce back
It'll take years and he might be dead by then, but it'll bounce back
men would be on mars
and it would have bounced back
men would be on europa and titan drilling for extraterrestrial oil goodness
and it would still bounce back

buying JNUG again even though bearish on metals
all time low, think a quick bounce to 10.50 is probable

>>10672854
>it went down, therefore it must go up!
I blame crypto (and bad parenting).

>>10672846
>go from $1.85 to $31 in less than 6 months
this is what a correction looks like

>>10672893
ive actually been thnking of adding some oil/gas exploration stuffs to muh macro oil play desu senpai

that stuff that self-acclaimed geologist was saying was extremely intradasting

I want to get off robin hood.

is tdAmeritade any good? or what would you guys recommend

>>10672956

TD is great but they really enjoy endorsing the whole fag/pride scene here in Leafland

>>10672514
>seeking more women to build out the company's fast-paced growth.


AMD is about to have a #metoo movement and no productivity. SELL AMD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YnsDAT8SaY

I'm really not understanding the FUD on this one, since when did the market give a shit about turkey? Or am I missing something?

SELL ME 12 STRIKE VIX PUTS FOR TEN BUCKS YOU FAGGOTS
I KNOW YOURE WATCHING

also
pump the russell already
christsake
do you guys SEE how many numbskulls just bought puts on the way down?
crush em

>>10672997
its just a normal dip

>>10672973
that video, the panic on the face of the three femnazis SJW cunts that can't shut her down.

fuaaaaaark

>>10672997
It's a combination of an excuse to sell off and take profit and the fact that the EU bank statement is over exposed to Turkey debt. The question is why were they in the first place? My guess EU leftist are idiots and have been planning to slowly being turkey into the fold and something something Muslims we can't be mean to them.

>>10672997
Turkey is part of EU now
EU markets are tied with Turkey
Merkel in Germany loves Turkey
If Turkey gets eaten, EU markets explode
if EU markets explode, USA and everybody else gets hit by the spoon
in the end only the USA gets to keep the spoon
is this enough babbyspeak to understand

>>10672997
>>10673027
>since when did the market give a shit about turkey? Or am I missing something?
this is what happens when you get all of your news from CNN and don't pay attention to what's going on

>>10672997
there was a lot of small spec talk of the big one
so they gave em a show
now that everyone bought puts, theyll pump it again. put writers win again it seems

>>10673054
>posting old news
Maybe you havent learned yet from the last million tariff dips but...

>>10672997
unless youre taking about a longer timeframe
im still bearish on the longterm desu
but today will prolly pump back up imo senpai

>>10673054
KO tripfags on suicidewatch

>>10673095
>learned yet from the last million tariff dips but...
OH
I DID
YOU SELL THE BOTTOM
NO ONE EXPECTS IT SO YOU WIN

And now I'm a part of the red day club. $300 gains vanished into thin air.

Buy LABU unless you hate money

>city of gold

so many things on sale

THANK YOU PLUNGE PROTECTION TEAM

buy Boeing again

>>10673155
this desu
even if this is the bulltrap, why not take advantage of it, buy now, and sell this awesome upcoming rip we just got for no reason?
even a total bearfag should realize EMs crashing will be macro bull for the US. people panic and buy our money and bonds

>>10673195
bearfags are mentally ill and should only be ignored like the last 10 years

You have learned the way teh profit, and soon you will become a golden bull yourself

HMNY holding at .052

>>10673216
>and soon you will become a golden bull yourself
nah im too impatient
and i honestly think that the golden bull would be the biggest disaster to the global economy ever. everyones purchasing power would fucking evaporate. even people invested would get fucked like in the 60s

The bull is not eternal

>>10673272
agreed senpai
but this isnt the big one™ either

>>10673269
thats fine
spx to 4k
after that, a 50% drop is OK

>>10673314
lol
deal

Based GIS
my only green today

elon JUST

>>10673314
you should start shorting turd world cunts w me senpai
get em to panic sell and buy moar safe US equities

>>10673366
lol checked
bankruptcy imminent

TSLA roller coaster is the best thing I've hopped on

>>10673335
The virgin yoplait vs the Chad siggi's.

>>10673381
hey profit what date do you have your long shot bankruptcy puts for? Jan 2019?

nothing normal applies to tsla, no market experience, no fundamentals, no whatever. It's pure fucking wild west. I love stocks like this. Even if I lose it was fun.

>>10673381
my strat is against naked shorting anything
because it's taking unnecessary risk. but I wish you the best of luck

pretty much everything about to cross on the tota penis index. last call

>>10673391
the volatility on it is ridiculous
but im happy w my bankruptcy play desu
theres only two ways this pans out
i lose 50 bucks or elon goes to jail
im ok w either

>>10673443
nah i dont think the SEC will take that long. i have end of september. im not worried abut theta, cuz if im right, itll blow out in the most spectacular way and vega will MASSIVELY counteract it

>>10673366

LOL

>>10673471
The IV seems too low on options for tSLA

>>10673471
forgot pic

>>10673467
i kno im just messin w ya
its funny how my thesis that turd world is gonna collapse against dollar now means that were on the same side for once

THIS mightve been what was causing all of that VIX backwardation. a lot of money looking to get over here into something safe

>>10673488
and THATS why i took it

>>10673510
yeah this morning I was waiting on edge. Sold all shares at 362, bought options on the way down. Even for the day now.

>>10673510
What, pray tell, is the smooth penis index?

Rate my first month, 6k is my own. Why does it take RH so long to compile these...

>>10673551

6/10

>>10673488
everyones SO confident that its getting bought out and nothings wrong
im just a pissant who likes inversing dreamers. ever since i found good ways to judge peoples trades and orders ive been rolling in it

>>10673527
the oscillator on the bottom
its my tweak of rkgs thing
each part is an exponentially smoothed TSI of an index
>white bars: VIX
>red area: TLT
>blue area: HYG
>yellow line: SPX
>red line: DOW
>green line: NDX
>baby blue line: RUT
when the indexes cross above, it means bullish. when VIX crosses down, its calming down. when HYG goes the wrong way, VIX will spike. and when TLT is up with stocks, it shows fear

idk, its a way for me to peek at the whole markets penis at once

>>10673551
>Tfw I call rh and liquidate your account

Thanks Eric

>>10673594
The thing I like positive wise about Tesla is it was 340-350 before this drama.

An $8 premium because of saudi arabia/buyout possibilities seems good. I just like the odds + relatively low IV. The ATH is over 380 and that was at a much worse state in the company revenue wise.

Nothing about this stock makes sense though but I think the value is okay and it has that insane potential.

Does the dividend evangelist still post in these threads? I'm tired of the degenerate life of microcaps and daytrades. Show me the way, sempai.
>>10673594
I don't know my man, I've kind of stopped believing that markets carry meaningful information a while ago. Maybe I'm just too much of a brainlet for macro stuff.

Anybody into daytrading here?

I have up to $800 to spend, I have spotted AMD as a good day trading stock.

But I suck at it.
I started out with $1000 at the beginning of the month.


What happens is that when I luck out on a trade I always wait for it to go further up and it doesn't.

When I change strategy and open various trades and try to accumulate small profit ($25~$50) it goes well for a while then it just takes one bad trade to make all these profit go to the bin.


Help me senpaitachi

>>10673631
Feel free I've got no cash in it

>>10673631
I do feel like a retard though, I've looked at that picture how many times and didn't see it. Well there are only 5 of us that I know so good luck getting anything from it. I don't have social media and if I did I sure as hell wouldn't put my name there.

>>10673693
you should only trade a given asset a few times per year

>>10673693
AMD is easy, even when it goes werid. Sell about 20 to 30 minutes at open. It will be up. Buy about an hour ago this is the typical low, obviously don't buy if it's actually high. Next target is an hour before close as this is usually the next low. It will them try to happen up before the bell. Keep track, use limits. If you still lose money with this advice stop trading and just invest in a three fund portfolio.

>>10673693
Don't be retarded, emotional and impatient about it.
Have entries, exits and stops set up in advance. If there's no entry, don't fucking enter.

>>10673770
With only $1000? What other choices do I have?

>>10673759
We're all /smg/ frens, nobody would do that. Or they better not...

>>10673631

lol

Eric dun goofed

>>10673314
>>10673216
see >>10672681

>>10673798
just think for a moment how someone would get off trading your trades with 1 million instead of 1000
If you dont think in this way, you will never be successful trader, only successful gambler, understand

>>10673799
I'm reading notes from underground right now and AI feel like it describes me and alot of people on 4chan perfectly. Not evil but trying to entertain themselves so they do it to get a reaction. Don't hate the masses but wish to be part of them but cursing the part of ourselves that keeps thinking everything is retarded.

>HEAR climbing back up
good thing I didn't panic sell

reminder that the pain has not even BEGUN for gold yet. pic related is from fridays close, i can almost GUARANTEE that large specs flipped short today. this is going WAY down

>>10673645
>Nothing about this stock makes sense though but I think the value is okay and it has that insane potential.
disagree on the potential, as i think their window of opportunity is closing fast. competitors will outdo em once they get the tech (apparently other US autos are ready to step in w affordable electric cars).

but the only reason i bothered with this trade is because of the cheap IVs. when i see that stuff, i start thinking about the long odds. 50 bucks is totally worth it. especially since i think he fucked up. its a fine line, and he HAS been orchestrating media stuffs to keep his stock afloat (been saying this ITT for months now). it was time i put my money where my mouth was, and the announcement made everyone go a gaga again

>>10673659
for whatever reason, macro stuff is the only things i can consistently call. just recently i called
>wheat going up
>dollar spiking
>turkey collapsing
>ZAR collapsing
>oil pulling back
>bonds running through crash on friday (missed my limit tho)
>gold going OTC
so i guess its starting to work.
i firmly believe looking at one chart, or one stock is a fools errand. one chart can be manipulated. but all major indexes, and all bond markets at once? that requires some serious effort, and a good reason to do it

>>10673827
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-xZeE2oXDs
You are very welcome newfag

>>10673859
I meant over the next few weeks to pump. I'm only outlook 6 months max on any stock I trade.

>>10673776
>>10673777
Thanks.

What would you say is a good TP/SL limit considering my initial investment capital?

>>10672681
>>10673827
>>10673864
i agree that weve got a minute
but the thing is, the way bonds trade and yield and get priced nowadays etc... is fundamentally VERY different from before the 08 crash and before dodd frank got patched in.

i actually see a large panic causing SHORT treasuries to get bought up this time, as i think theres larger credit risk out 30 years at this point. this would actually normalize the yield curve. current retard bullrun aside, a lot of faith has left in terms of the sanctity of the U$D.

>>10673906
oh i gotcha
imma short timer myself

>>10673859
its easy to take trades on gold based on the COT, not now, but usually it is
Silvedr its almost impossible, complete randomness, copper too

>>10673859
hey teh_profit
Would you someday to put together what you have learned on macro memes ?
eg. the indicators you use, how to cross check them and how to interprere them etc

>>10673835
The point, is if I trade with $1000 like a regular or professional trader that put in $25000 and more, I will either waste money or time and money.

It's completely useless I would rather spend them on myself to learn another skill.

I-is HMNY gonna be okay?

>>10673967
Meant to ask the same.
Also any reading material on macro stuff that's not pure propaganda.

>>10673987
Nows the time to become a major shareholder

>>10673974
if you arent adding more money over time to your account, you are just gambling anyway
so, go all in on penny stocks if you want, or you could learn valuable lessons of the market by trading normally.. it would probably be good for you later in life

>>10673987
no, but you already knew that

without robintards buying it's gonna go down to $0.0001 and the market cap will be small enough that you could buy movie pass for the price of a yearly movie pass

tsla is just being pushed up and up by big money. It would be nice to know if it's covering or big bidders buying up shares now.

>>10674022
Buy it just to put it out of its misery

Hey err'body! Hope y'all'er trading safe!

we're going green

>>10674060
Theyll buy lots of puts then pull out. They're covering the calls they had.

based and redpilled

Reminder, with an elevated VIX this is when you sell puts, not buy them

>>10674063
sucks you went back to your gambling ways and lost all those dank div gains
Next time youll get it for sure

Convince me to invest in anything but index funds

>>10674077
Why buy puts before pulling out instead of after?

>>10674063
that doesn't look very safe dude!

>>10674063
funny enough, I just bought in

>>10674114
note: log scale

>>10674132
Because they are the cheapest right before it stops going up. And when they pull out it will go down fast and it will cover the loss they got from pulling out, so they'll sell right before they're done pulling out because they're the most expensive when people think they'll keep going down. I've watched it happen tons of times after ERs.

>>10674063
If you hold those for six months you can also take advantage of their shareholder discount for buying a new car from a Ford Dealership.

>>10673693
Stick to a strategy that gets you profit, no matter how smol, and keep doing it.
One brainlet and absolutely moronic method here that only works if you have a ton of shares to buy/sell of AMD.
For a week's worth of data, find:
>the previous closing price
>the previous day's lowest point
>the previous day's all time high
>the pre-market price 5 minutes before the open
>the after-hour price 5 minutes right at close
>and pay attention to any good or bad news that affects AMD directly or indirectly
If you can't spot the difference and adjust accordingly by a few cents each time, there's no helping you

here's a rough example:
previous close of AMD: 19.10
previous ATH of AMD: 19.65
previous low of AMD: 18.90
pre-market price of AMD today: 19.20-22
The low and the high gives you a range of $$ to work with, 19.65-18.9 = 75 cents to work in
Round down from nearest whole number, so that's actually 70 cents
now look at the pre-market price,
19.20+.70 = possible high of 19.90 for AMD
so before opening set a conservative sell price of 19.80, don't get greedy

eventually when your shares get sold:
look at previous close price, 19.10
do 19.10 + half of that 70 cent difference
so 19.10 + 35 = 19.45
round UP, so 19.50, but I'm a nervous faggot so make that 19.55 according to my guts
you now have a buy price, so set that, wait, and forget about it until it's bought
you then have your day's neetbux
rinse and repeat by finding the difference each time
practice this until you get the hang of it before committing any money and your gut tells you what's right
this method assumes that AMD is trending in a particular pattern and nothing else is going to fuck it up, like earnings reports or some global asshole tanking
if your gut tells you don't do it, don't fucking do it
smol gains are gains, even a dollar

tl;dr: READ https://www.investopedia.com/articles/active-trading/11/four-types-of-active-traders.asp

>>10674162
Now take the same time period and compare HP, for example. You’re not making a good point by picking a one stock against the S&P.

It's Monday! I hope your first day of the week is going well!

>>10673864
>40min video that could be summarized in 4 min
>ok.jpg
I said "if" and "two more years" if you read carefully my post.

>>10674214
Yeah the day that USB said that AMD was going to be most effected by the China tarrifs is the one where I was off by about 40 cents from the low. Otherwise I'm usually within 5 cents.

>>10674259
cool, see you in 2 years

>>10674199
I feel like there are too many eyes on tesla today toget away with things like that. Almost have to play it straight I think.

>>10674273
I could've bought back in at the 1940s if I weren't always nervous when it comes to the day's lowest ;_; I don't wanna be left out from a buy-in and having to buy market price 5 minutes before close

>>10673967
>>10674000
i look at put/call OI and also put/call IV a lot to judge investor sentiment. i try to bet w the options writers. i like buying contracts for things when i see their volatility is priced too low.

as for my understanding of the world, idk m8, ive been on these sites (chans) typing a lot for a really long time. i always try to ask people lots of things if theyre from far away or have experience i dont, and i write fucking everything down that i learn.

most of my stuff that i have been calling have been a result of comparing different things together and trying to find relationships that repeat historically and recently. you can do this by spread charts, or by looking at futures curves, or by comparing things that usually inverse/follow each other etc. once you find relationships like this that are reliable, start watching them and dont place a trade until what you think will happen is confirmed by it

in terms of indicators ive been using lately
>keltner channels
>CCI
>CMF (or rather my edit of it, the shekel flow)
>OBV
more recently ive started to use bollinger bands/BBW in conjunction w keltner channes, as you can see when vol starts getting out of line. also, tho not an indicator, i like using probability graphs to stay within 1 sigma for my moves/price targets. i like my ribbon meme oscillator (i guess its a guppy), and muh autofibline thing too.

the only other trick i can think of thats noteworthy (cuz i almost never see anyone use em) is point and figure graphs. useful for picking options strikes and useful for smoothing out ugly commodities/bonds charts

books?
i liked that one book "economics in one lesson" when i was starting. really simple and covers a lot. richard wyckoffs "how i trade stocks and bonds" is good too. and ive been reading jesse livermores book these past few months, which is awesome imo

but seriously, dont copy me, im still a n00b and i know it. ive just been getting better as i start to understand relationships

>>10674278
cya mate

>>10673936
I'm not sure, I think the usual flight to safety for LT bonds will be there, just maybe not US bonds, who knows.

>>10674214
Holy shit, thanks senpai gonna try this with paper money see if it works out.

>>10674426
That's only a rough method. The endgoal of this method is having to discern by naked eye the day's differences in prices and the overall trend without doing any obvious calculation. In other words, turn autistic idiocy into moronic instinct, into stupid guts.

>>10674243
picking the correct investment beats the index

just like how timing the market beats time in the market

but obviously you need to do it right, if you bought TMTA instead of AMZN then the only place you'd be retiring to is the bathroom of Olive Garden

>>10674377
Delet this

>>10674377
>dirty-sneaker-inbred-out of the wood-Pabst beer pussy methhead-junkie
Holy fuck lol. Doesn't Azealia Banks have mental problems? Why is she living in Elon's house?

>>10674369
With that mind set you aren't cut out for day trading. Also never worry about that kind of thing. I bought at 19.30 and it dropped down to 18.85 that day. Instead of panic selling I held and made it back plus some. Heck today I only sold half of my AMD at 19.80 because I wasn't sure if it would break 20 today. Today we are riding high on good news from the threadripper beating the shit out of Intel. Tom will probably be down for the hire women bit. I'd say if it falls under 19.50 anytime tomorrow buy.

>>10674377
Not this fucking bitch, someone tell Elon to not take the bait; she's an irrelevant nobody who lives off controversy she creates by starting beef with celebrities who are actually relevant.

Also...

>has five sons
>somehow has fucked half the women in Hollywood
>seemingly massive balls
>builds rockets
>"beta male"

Does not compute senpai...

>>10674479
I got that anon thanks.
For many times I've done weird TA but never knew how I could put a good fundamental analysis

TSLA forming a classic "cup and handle deeeeeeeeeez nuts" pattern

>>10673967
>>10674000
heres some sites iv been using to check sentiment
>https://finviz.com/map.ashx?t=etf&st=relvol
>https://www.barchart.com/futures/commitment-of-traders
and not macro, but for muh OTC memes
>https://otcshortreport.com
i use this site sometimes to plot out my options positions
>http://optioncreator.com
but try to find one that has standard deviation probability graphs on it. my trading plat has one, so idk

last but not least
>WATCH THE FED
always know what the FED is up to as much as you can.
and also
>WATCH BONDS
all of em. learn how they get priced, and watch where they go in relation to the equities markets. bond traders are way smarter than equities bulls

>>10674413
usually it is desu
the thing is, the short ones yield the same pretty much, and are beat down to hell. i think were no longer in a position where we can clearly see 30 years ahead, and i think our bond yields reflect that

>>10674517
>With that mind set you aren't cut out for day trading.
I know that, I only set this entire sequence for AMD once a day m8, and I only started trading AMD about a week and a half ago
I'm actually surprised that by the time I finished writing that long post AMD hit 19.93
babby steps, I know I'm going to lose some

>>10674541
i found that the 'target-date bonds' are the best for a combo of captial appreciation and yield
Im thinking since Im already up 11% this year, I should just switch to those + spy

Can't believe people are seriously considering buying and at $19+.

I had a 10.90 average, had potential to average down again when AMD was $9.20.

But, had no money in USD. Conversion fees would have been 100-200 bucks and I'm cheap.

Reeeeeeeeee. Would have had to do norberts Gambit which takes time at my retarded shit bank. Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

>>10674381
Thanks a lot senpai
Screencapped it for my own learning

We are all noob here

I am a shitty wanabee fundamental fag (AUIC) and I just keep doing it until I get good at it

>>10674623
you had to pay fees?
I'm truly sorry for your lots
is the fee tree fiddy

>>10673864
Cool vid though, I'm watching it now, especially the second part ofc

>>10674541
I dunno, people 30 years ago probably thought the same even though I have to agree that LT bond yield is very low today and seem to want to go up.
Thanks for the links also.

>>10674693
it would behoove you to watch all his videos, I was converted to 100% golden bull after

>>10674623
I've been buying and selling all the way up from 10. Considering Nvidia in the long run, current market conditions and the overall tech sector AMD under 20 is still a good buy. I think long term it should start to catch up in value with MU and Intel but that will be a very long hold. I don't think they will hit Nvidia unless AI, ML, and crypto all really take off. Though gaming becoming more mainstream will help if AMD continues to make quality gous for budget builds.

Sour hour

>>10674541
As for the go long LT US Bonds thing, a favorite fund manager of mine just wrote the same
He said we are in an old time classic of financial turmoil, which is the USD shortage

And i remember talking to you on this funny fact : why would people buy LT bonds in times of crisis while ST bonds yield the same ? The answer I figured out was duration : the FED will surely agressively cut rates sending LT bonds soaring (more than ST ones)

>>10674722
>Though gaming becoming more mainstream will help
Hasn't it already helped? It's the reason why they stayed afloat all this time thanks to Sony and Microsoft. There's that chinese console coming out and the new Atari is using old AMD tech, so they have a lock on the console industry.

Sorry I haven’t been on today. Wage slaving. Did I miss anything? How’s everyone doing today?

>>10674623
What gay bank do you use? My borker charges me 0.1% for fx shit and I consider it a crime.

based gis, why not go all in

>>10674642
np bud

>>10674584
my fav bond ETF is CWB. its a convertibles ETF, has +4% yield, and follows the market the strongest out of all the corporate debt. plus i get it commission free cuz muh schwab

>>10674759
yeah i gotta pay more attention to the yield curve rn. i think theres a good trade to be had doing some sort of yield curve tightening spread if i choose the right ones. seems silly cuz its already flat as shit, but thats where were heading for now. im gonna write an indicator that shows all of the yield side by side w fed funds rate so i can pop it up whenever i want

>>10674794
Thanksgiving came early for everybody, even the countries that don't celebrate it.

GALT earnings tomorrow

>>10674794
It's kinda been a rollercoaster but it doesn't seem that bad actually. Turkey is fucked obv, but we knew that all weekend.

Two questions


So I'm not getting hired in at my job unfortunately. Meaning that i can't do school with this job. How do I get a part time job as soon as possible?

Also

Why do people go to salary jobs instead of hour jobs

>>10674920
>Why do people go to salary jobs instead of hour jobs
Fixed hours instead of being all over the place.

Where's the CEI anon at?
Did I miss my chance to buy in?
What's the likely hood they'll go bankrupt? Other investors clearly don't see too much of a risk

>>10674843
>>10674864
What’s this about thanksgiving? I’m kinda a new fag still. I’m guessing something about Turkey though.

Also what’s up with Turkey? I’ve been working all weekend and haven’t seen anything on the news.

Pembina is the only stock I have that isn't in the red today, but counting last week, it's only getting less red today. Why the fuck can't I make good trades

>BiliBili
top kek
I hope no one fell for the chink scam

>>10674789
Sorry I meant and should have clarified. Serious PC gaming. And yes it has helped. I think the big one for AMD will be if VR ever catches on. I love my VIVE but it doesn't have a lot to offer right now and user base is really small.

s&p under 2827 we done boys. next stop 2400

>>10674794
Currency weirdness doing funky shit to my portfolio. Also I spent the last of my cash catching the intraday knife on AMRS so I'm mercifully free of worries until the next payday.

>>10674969
Erdogan and Trump had a prisoner exchange deal.
One turkroach for one deep state mossad/CIA priest.
Trump let the turkroach go to Erdogan.
Erdogan does not let the kike go.
This becomes the perfect excuse to erect tariffs on Turkey.
Turkey proceeds to get roasted since Friday.
Erdogan still refuses to release the priest to this day, leading to where we are: previously expensive stocks that can be bought at a discount, while the EU and everyone else begin to panic.

>>10674969
The Turkish Lira and by extension a lot of their economy has plunged for a variety of factors. They're cooked!

>>10675028
if it breaks 2825 we will prob see 2800 tomarrow ;_;

>>10675027
VR is missing real tactile feedback. Until it can be imitated for really cheap without looking like Jonah Hill stepped in a closet full of drag, it's just a vertigo simulator.

>>10675039
Based Trump brining us all something to be thankful for, Dip.

>>10675039
Lord Soros had also been trying short Turkey for year now
Edgydran made fatal mistake of bragging about his defeat of Soros

>>10675039
I see, I’m guessing we’re not expecting it to go on very long and things to go back to normal?
>>10675054
Well happy thanksgiving then everyone!

>>10675108
dont forget to long M and JCP for the thanksgiving day parade

>>10675079
yeah
there should be a betting pool somewhere on odds as to how long Erdogan can hold at 7
I'm thinking they crash thru the roof on Wednesday

>>10675108
>things to go back to normal?
If by normal you mean capital flight from Turkey, then sure, that's normal

I messed up my robintrack trading this week.
I tried puts against AMD even though it's pattern wasn't the normal one I trade against, that experiment failed
PFE was also a bad guess.
I'm still up overall for the trading though, so it's time for a new generation

>>10675178
>I only got btfo because I didn't trust my charts!
Classic TA-fag cope.

>>10675199
No it's really not a cope. I tried trading a FOMO pattern on AMD, but it failed.
On all the other ones it had a gap pattern, so I should try to trade on that instead

>>10675178
how do you know that you should've held longer, aren't these things pretty much in hindsight and not worth worrying about

>>10675178
oof! I'm still enjoying this experiment.
>>10675147
TUR is at like a 9 year low, you think that's a good idea? Seems like it could fall further to me

>>10675178
never pop a fresh one again

>>10675219
>Seems like it could fall further to me
even better

>>10675215
Yeah. I think I should have held longer until the pattern full corrects instead of rapid fire 1 day trading. That's the case will all the previous generations
>>10675219
:D
>>10675224
>:(

>>10674527
Wow. You sound like you would love to slurp Elon's cum.

>>10675178
Have you considered betting against CTL? Since your currently putting through my portfolio it seems.

>>10674933
This. I don't have a consistent schedule

>missed out on TIS
Fuck

>>10672474
Kek bought the dip and got out at 3.5% made 120 buckaruus should have put more in

>>10675303

>AMRS about to close green
Didn't see that one coming, should have bought the good booze.
What are we /sip/ping tonight, lads?

>>10675303
Oh fuck what was/is that stock? It fell and then popped so dramatically. I...it kind of still look like a buy?!

>>10675274
Nah there is no gap I can bet on closing

>>10675364
Classic brandy and soda

me miss forex account ;_;

>>10675366
Oh nvm looks like they have crushing debt and bad financials?

>>10675366
Find out what happened in 2016 and 2017 to the company.

>>10675366
100s of robinhood traders FOMOd in kek

>>10675366
>FOMOing into some nanocap pump and dump scheme
It was /r/robinhood tier and it was in /smg/.

>>10675377
To be fair I didn't check, mostly was trying to bait.

Next big tech thing is gonna be when someone does 5G

>>10675449
S T A R L I N K
P
A
C
E
X

retail wanted new highs lel

>>10675385

>>10675489
Apple got their new highs ;_; why couldnt S&P

>>10675490
NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>10675385
>when you pay taxes so that some tripfag of indeterminate gender can spend her disability paycheck subsidizing its forex broker
Is this the 'greatest transfer of wealth in history' I keep hearing about?

>>10672367
I need to know guys, when will CEI state whether or not they have paid their debts? I bought 396 shares, hope it will go above $1.00 a share by october

>>10675511
you fucked it all up by bulling today and we got bogged, its all your fault

>>10675528
be thankful me no dumping it on shitcoins to fund china :P

>>10675511

because 499 other corporations are in the index, tomorrows a new day rkg

>>10675568
so sorri everyone me will be bearish tomorrow promise ;_;

Ding ding ding! How did everyone do today? I'm down 0.29%, not as bad as it could have been thanks to based PSMT! Happy Monday!

Bulls on Patrol

>>10675611
Down 4% thanks to muh oil

>>10675611
Im down 1% because got cucked across several sectors

>>10675576
Yeah you bought fun and cripple so shut the fuck up

>>10675582
me remember good old days of Apple leading SPX into new ATHs
guess those days am over

HMNY is getting delisted from RH.

>>10675099
It's hilarous the guy that defeated the Bank of England in the 90s is suuuper scared of roachcentralbank and erdoroach

>>10674920
Pls respond with more answers :3

Thank DBX for enriching my puts.

>>10675611
bailed on my russell longs once i noticed pic related
so took an unneeded hit
still think VIX gaps down tomorrow tho, so no biggie as i got a bunch of those
oil is absolutely getting hammered tomorrow so thatll be nice too
gold hasnt even fucking begun
DRUS ended up back where it started, but i aint shook
ended up some completely negligible amount

>>10673693
Intraday trader here. Your issues combined (1) waiting for it to go up further and it doesn't and (2) one bad trade blowing up your profits sounds like you are not controlling your downside enough and you're potentially structuring your risk-reward poorly. You make these $25 and $50 profits, then blow them apart on one bad trade right? So if we clamped the amount you lose on these bad trades, you'd theoretically be more profitable? That's the question I'd look to answer. If you're making .25-.50 points a trade, that might not be that bad, but it depends on how quickly you're cutting losing positions.

You can control the stock you trade, position size, when you enter, when you exit at a profit, and when you exit at a loss. From those ingredients, fortunes can be made. If you could pull that .25-.50 consistently and clamp ALL of your losers around a level of downside that makes sense to you, depending on how often your setups worked out for you, you could have something to work with there. No single trade should be fucking up your P&L that badly. All that being said, it might also be that AMD is not in fact your stock and you're getting chopped up because you're trading it like it's trending, when in fact it's going sideways and would be better to fade.

Up .2% today. All things considered, lucky as fuck.

My call on US Steel stayed about the same.

Low volume on US steel - indicating a reversal? What do you think?

noob here

>>10672367
So am I the only one rolling the dice on CEI?

>>10675611
this was worse day in forever so me pin pointed where went wrong

in conclusion: me close point was arbitrary
pic related is what plan for 2 day should have been

>>10675692
also sorry for reddit spacing I don't know what came over me

>>10675611
Solid 1% up. New ATH. It's a good start of a new week.

>>10675611
Up like .3%, slowly crawling back

>>10675698
yes
oils going down tomorrow to shake out retail
still macro bull, but i expect more of what happened today to oil, tomorrow

I FUCKING HATE TURKEY. IF DUBS TOMORROW WILL BE A GREEN DAY BECAUSE FUCK TURKEY FOR RUINING TODAY!

>>10675700
Bullish or bearish tomorrow?
I'm holding SPY puts so you should buy calls

>>10673693
Make trades that are logical. Compute a rough probability of the stock hitting a price that makes you profit, but also take a look at your reward/risk ratio. Even if you are sure a stock has good fundamentals and technicals say to buy, hedge your positions. Taking half of your possible profit is usually better than risking your entire investment for 1~2% more profit. Pay attention to the first few minutes after the opening bell because that's usually when smart money makes their positions for the day. Futures and pre-market data sometimes help you get a rough image of overall market movement for the day.

>>10675611

>>10675920
me bearish as long as we under 283.7
but gonna watch poop out of futures tonight looking for longs

>>10675611
A couple of my Tesla calls are pretty aggressive, might have to move around the August and September expiry tomorrow maybe

>>10675966
and then a demo portfolio

>>10675974
SPY up after hours
I hope Mr Ergo has another (((failed coup)))

>>10676057
the typically pattern is SPY will pump to todays ATH carried by futures then return to some middle ground

me gonna try exiting failed long AH that way

Oh baby, Ford is on discount.

>>10676110
Is it really a good buy though? I off loaded mine for more KDP. Autos are super cyclical, where do you think are on the cycle? Do you think consumer spending is peaking or will fall after this bull run?
>>10676079
Good luck my cripple. We're all going to make it

>>10676194
I believe Ford will jump back up to $12 soon. It usually goes back and forth between 10-13 dollars. This time it dipped below the usual 10 dollar threshold. Is it without risk? Obviously not, but they do pay a dividend. I think Ford made the move that every other auto maker is going to eventually have to do, Ford just did it first.

>tfw when UVXY calls take a moon mission and you put in a small amount and went back to sleep

When am I gonna get some fuckin balls and go hard on things that have good probability

>>10676194
>>10676250
Ford was the only auto manufacturer to not get a bailout. They make The Work Truck. It's pretty low risk.

>>10676320
>Ford was the only auto manufacturer to not get a bailout.
This speaks volumes.

Ontario retail plan just announced. They fucked up and are only going to allow private sales online until April. Boomers think this is bad. I think it doesn't matter. Nobody in the market for dude weed cares about brick n mortar stores. Online is future of retail ESPECIALLY for stuff people will be a little embarrassed buying in person (like sex toys). Or not even future. Online is the present.

Anyway, rec sales are whatever. My pharma play TBP is bullish as all hell right now. New year high incoming before the end of the week.

>>10675974
What faggot types like this? Jesus that is just brutal to read. Had to sage the thread for it

>>10676429
You must be new here

>>10676359
You think pot stocks will peak this week? Sure hope so

>>10676429
It's the post-ironical brain damaged manic pixie girl persona. You're probably not sophisticated enough to appreciate it.

what's the best stock trading site for people from the UK?

>>10676447
Nope, definitely not. I assume this takes an IQ of 150 or more to truly understand

>>10676447
RKG's prose is kino as it gets

>>10676359
How do you think CRON earnings will go tomorrow?
>>10676447
This unrionically. You have to be a man of culture to appreciate a mentally deranged, terminally ill tranny. It's like feeding caviar to normies, they won't like it.

>>10676453
ig
https://www.ig.com/uk/shares

>>10675611
Up 25 percent despite oil calls getting BOGGED

wew lads
somethings up w the sovereign and US corporate debt
all the short term yields are spiking
ill post pics as i find obvious ones, hold on

>>10676453
Degiro is an ok poverty broker.
After that you may want to graduate to Lynx or Interactive Brokers.

>>10676509
>somethings up w the sovereign and US corporate debt
its just eight years of ZIRP that made binging on debt priceless dont worry

I guess I have to work 12 hours a day for the next two weeks before I'm fired

>>10675611
-0.38%

>>10676533
lol
yea these short term EM ones dont look good at fucking ALL. this ones been dumping for three days gapping HARD

Who else bought the fuck out of those 7 dollar 9/21 oil calls? They were 40 dollars last week

>>10676564
>tfw all in on EDZ

>>10676478
me am caviar

>>10675966
Why is /smg/ so poor? Even 2scoops only has a 30k portfolio and that seems to be the maximum here. WSBers seem to have way more money than everyone here since they have real jobs.

>>10676601
fishy and salty

>>10676586
good idea
heres intl TIPS equivalents
these govt backed ones dont look so hot either.

>>10676641

>>10676641

>>10676641


new

>>10676618
Pic related

>>10676618
There are lurkers here with hundreds of thousands, Newfag.

WSB is mostly silver spoon retards throwing away tens of thousands. Its more a form of bloody entertainment than a cokkunity you should hang out it.

>>10676359
Online only doesn't help to bring in potentially interested but skeptical boomers.
I agree with your point that it's not disastrous news, but it's still not good news.

>>10676445

Oh fuck no. I think TBP will. Not the others and most definitely not the growers.

>>10673987
I think they can't jew people for their tenth of a penny commission spread so that's why HMNY got the axe.