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>>10652596
>https://stellar.expert/explorer/public/
looks like that pseudoponzi isnt driving this too
bullish af

>>10652629
>that growth in a (((bear market)))

top 3 potential?

>>10652696
top 3 EOY; coinbase probably next month

>>10652677
basically the sdex is going to be how Chinese crypto investors circumvent the bans right?

>>10652755
It could be. I did not think of this before. I am not sure what constraints China has on the whole scene personally (someone reddog me on this).

You still need to "sign up" for stellarx, but that is just basically submitting your email and hitting verify in the email. All trades are done from individual wallet to individual wallet.

>>10652778
the true promise of an atomic swap based ddex

this, alongside true end to end trustless b2b is what makes me most bullish

its. fucking. beautiful.

>>10652696
Stuff I actually believe:
Within 12 months normies and central banks will be using this as a universal liquidity layer without even knowing it
Actual value is hard to calculate and mostly depends on state LN channels holdings, which I'm hoping are large

>>10652803
>>10652841
Just need the first central bank to put their fiat on the network to see other shit start to get added like oil

chinks are buying tonight; god bless em

>>10652414
Stellar is such a diamond.
Xlm literally can't fall below $.18 and if it hits that level ever again I'm buying so fucking much.
Nice trajectory stellar snake!

stellar is just another me-too coin backed by the failure that created mt-gox, and who owns 80% of the entire supply.

you'd have to be stupider that the people that buy chinkcoins to even think of putting any money into this, especially with how massively inflated it's price is even in this market

>>10653118
>ripple cope posting this late on a saturday

>>10653118
>failure
>created emule, mtgox, and 40% of the top5 cryptos
Pick one

We're green!

>>10652414
go back to plebbit

>>10653524
And xrp still getting shoahd

>>10653118

I pay a lot of attention to FUD. I take it seriously.

The FUD by Cripples against XLM is some of the most pathetic shit I've ever seen.

Created the biggest and first Bitcoin exchange. Then sold it.

Then created Ripple, and mistakenly brought in a CEO who's a fucking morons.

Then created another coin that's on Pace to over take it

>>10653556

>that /pol/ tier FUD

Yes it's the commies. Better sell all of it

>>10653570
How is it FUD? It's all true

>>10653565
>Leaving his children was even harsher, with the kids’ mother placing the blame on the woman who had turned his formidable head. According to Ms. Burzlaff, Ms. Kim “made my ex choose between my kids and her, and he chose her.” This was not part of some unspecific rant. Ms. Burzlaff and Mr. McCaleb had already ended their relationship. But Mr. McCaleb was limiting his own contact with his children to “the point where [Ms. Kim] was going out of town so he was still trying to sneak in a time to see them.” Ms. Kim supposedly cancelled her trip “one hour before he was supposed to pick them up because she found out he was going to see them when she was going out of town.

>trusting this man

>>10653565
>>10653609
>Bad feelings toward Ms. Kim remained at Ripple Labs even after she’d left the company. She was viewed by many as having exerted some sort of spell over Mr. McCaleb, who was content to continue to include her in Ripple Labs conversations even after her departure. The Observer heard Ms. Kim described as “Yoko Ono” by no fewer than four interview subjects. “It was the way she would just be there all the time and you could never have a private conversation with Jed.”

>Trusting Jed "My Wife's Son" McCalleb

>>10653609
>>10653624
>>10653595
holy fuck the flippening is real and you cucks are so scared it's going to happen

see you at 0.10$ / XRP faggot, ill buy your shit bags then

>>10653647
XRP is a shitcoin second only to XLM.

>>10653656
kek,
keep believing that

>>10653667
The kike shill is probably eos + xrp bag holder

>>10653679
No bags here, but EOS and XRP are both better than your cuck coin, along with every other shitcoin in the top 50. Funny how you have no rebuttal to anything I've posted, just name calling and posturing. Here, some more details about your boyfriend Jed

>On May 22, 2014, Mr. McCaleb announced via a posting on Ripple Labs’ message board, “I plan to start selling all of my remaining XRP beginning in two weeks. …. So just fyi…. xrp sales incoming.” The announcement by a founder that he intended to dump 9 billion units of the currency he helped create was perceived as a threat by all who cared about Ripple Labs or held XRPs. It would be hard to imagine a founder and board member of a public company announcing he was going to flood the market by selling his stock; that would be an obvious and illegal attempt at market manipulation, not to mention ridiculously juvenile.

>Jed "Just trust me with 80% of the total supply" McCuckeb

>>10653703
>taking random quotes from an article in 2015 that was trying to get into the hype by exposing some 'feud' between Ripple and McCaleb
>Funny how you have no rebuttal to anything I've posted
lmao, kys faggot

>>10653725
>it's not true because the article came out 3 years ago
absolute cope

>>10652414
I'm all in XLM

>>10653738
you can't even source me other than some quote from an article faggot.
Continue with ur conspiracy theories, im enjoying your tears as the price of XRP drops every minute

>>10653748
The majority of the "FUD" comes from their own website. See: >>10653595

>>10653595
>>10653765
How is that FUD?

no one said anything about FUD you autistic retard.
Continue, im taking out my popcorn right now

>>10653775
Oh, so you acknowledge that it's all true then? Well what are we arguing about?

>>10653810

>>10653647
holy fuck the flippening is real and you cucks are so scared it's going to happen

see you at 0.10$ / XRP faggot, ill buy your shit bags then

>>10653816
But I don't own XRP. See: >>10653656

Why would my posts have a positive influence on the performance of Stellar?

>>10653838
>bb-b-but, I dont own any cripple
lmfao no one cares you stupid faggot,
keep bumping the thread tho

I have a fat stellar position. They were good to me last bull run. They'll be good to me again. Some coins just don't do me wrong.

>>10653845
You certainly seem to care, given how many times you've referenced my non-existent holdings. And thanks for helping me keep this thread bumped. I wouldn't want all my effort exposing XLM for the nigger coin that it is to go to waste.

>>10653855
>I wouldn't want all my effort exposing XLM for the nigger coin that it is to go to waste.

im sure it wont go to waste since you seem to be a real winner

>>10653866
thanks dude you too

>>10653816
trying so hard
kek

>>10653904
You're the same faggot that comes into every stellar thread and posts the same low IQ shit and images every time.
Never with a source.
Literally nobody cares.
Obviously not a single fucking project is perfect and I hate how damn SJW stellar is but that doesnt make it a poor investment you retard.
Do tell us all though about the perfect crypto you're invested in and why it's flawless.
I'll wait

>>10653765
They already said they ditched that policy in their december blog I believe.

>>10653999
>Lumen giveaways have been completed. We do not plan on sponsoring another giveaway, except through verified partners such as SatoshiPay and select cryptocurrency exchanges. Please do not fall for social media posts that ask you to give personal information for free lumens.
>We may periodically offer 300 XLM giveaways to a small number of people who physically attend our meetup events, but the instructions to claim these lumens will be emailed out to participants from a stellar.org email address and will ask you to enter your information on an official https://www.stellar.org/ webpage.
https://www.stellar.org/blog/stellar-security-guide-protect-scammers/

Can we ever see a $5 XLM?? in 2-3 years?

>>10653154
so salty that stellar is a shitcoin that will never flip xrp, keep wishing to be better than xrp
Enjoy your "new" trading platform that xrp already has year ago

>>10654031
I honestly think the places of Ripple and Stellar should be reversed. So I can see it happen.

That said, the crypto market is on its ass right now because you can't even use Bitcoin or Ethereum due to their capacity problems. So I think those two coins need to get their shit in order first to restore faith in the market. And we need a bit more adoption of crypto products in general. Although it seems Ripple, Ethereum and Stellar are the only products that are having some real world adoption, which is fine.

>>10654031
Absolutely. Probably closer to 3 years than 2 the way the market is going

>>10653978
>Never with a source.
The source is their own website. It's literally in the screenshot

>but that doesnt make it a poor investment you retard.
Yes it does. Read >>10653556 more carefully. You're being played like a fool.

>>10654088

Oh man non-white people can use stellar too oh jeez this is terrible news to me and my life

>>10652841

You XLM fucks are absolutely delusional. Stellar skeptic here. I have mid six figure amount of dry powder ready to coin up with. Convince me to throw it into this shitcoin. Bonus points for realistic, factual reasoning. I have an open mind, lay down some trufax on me frands

>>10654107
imagine having an IQ this low

>>10654117

I know you can't imagine it since you're obviously very smart

>>10654109
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.stellar.org/papers/stellar-consensus-protocol.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwj0lf2E1ubcAhVm6IMKHUn6B0gQFjAAegQIBBAB&usg=AOvVaw0ZriFzDzT6IdbcSHlUYnO1

>>10654088
I've read all of it.
XLM is the only coin I hold and seriously follow anything and everything about it.
If i saw it turning to shit and lacking growth potential I'd instantly sell it
Your comments are seriously dumb as shit.
You didnt answer my question about your perfect crypto investment

>>10654107
>>10653978
>giving away shit for free is good
you bought into a money redistribution scheme that not only requires more buyers than sellers but also requires people buying more than what is being given away

>>10654163
>not only requires more buyers than sellers but also requires people buying more than what is being given away

woah its another crypto business expert

>>10654131

I said lay down some facts, not link me to a 32 page pdf. I want to be spoonfed the sparknotes version

>>10654109
>>10654213
show proof of account balance

>>10653609

>implying a wife who got dumped inst going to resent the chick her rich husband is now porking

13 posts by this ID. The ripple fud is real lol. God you're pathetic.

Summary of Stellar FUD

>Jed left his cunt wife! For an educated lawyer. What a meanie!
>He sold the most successful Bitcoin exchange to a fat french guy who trashed it. Wow really?
>He left Ripple on bad terms when the company destroyed his vision of what HE created. How unprofessional to be pissed about it!
>Stellar is lame! It's a better version of ripple in every way. But who cares! We have garlichouse, bankers and a fat ogre of a man
>Stellar wants to airdropping on people with black skin. Oh my God how degenerate right /pol/?
>The foundation has a huge war chest to develop the coin. How lame is that?

All these posts by the same ID.

You've been here for days, posting the same fud over and over and over.

I strongly advise that you kill yourself. Stellar is now over 1/3rd ripples MC and closing. I don't think you'll be able to cope with the flip.

>>10654282
>[Ms. Kim] was going out of town so he (jed) was still trying to sneak in a time to see them
>he was TRYING to see his children and his current gf didnt let him
hmmmm

>>10654109

It fucking works right now.

Nobody need to convince you ya dumb faggot. Learn to read to acquire wealth.

>>10654360

The absolute state if XLM fud. I can't argue on technicals, so I'll just attack one of the many people behind the stellar network.

>>10654390
Anyone attacking Jed is one complete arrogant piece of work that has no idea what Jed has done for the crypto world.

kek, you were the one talking about jed's family
>Summary of Stellar FUD
>shaping the arguments to be more convenient for me
>shaping the truth to something that looks good
>distorting arguments to make it look like im right
and samefagging this hard
>>10654390
>>10654475

>>10654368

There's a definite correlation between the worthlessness of a shitcoin and how defensive it's shills get when you ask for basic information about it. I've already acquired a small fortune, thanks. If your shitcoin needs an elaborate, contrived explanation of its actual use case then it's fucking garbage. I've seen all i need to see here, carry on shills.

you couldnt defend shit in your thread, your arguments were
>giving away money isn't bad
>racism is bad mmkay
>go back to /pol/
>you kike shill
>Literally nobody cares.
>You're the same faggot that comes into every stellar thread
>you are a xrp bagholder
>ur conspiracy theories
>im enjoying your tears as the price of XRP drops
all quoted from your posts

>>10654489
>>10654526
>>10654540

For something you see as worthless, you seem to be putting alot of work into your posts just to say it's worthless.

>>10654601
im not saying its worthless, is just a less relevant fork of something that actually works, think of it like bitcoin to bitcoin gold, bitcoin cash, litecoin or even litecoin cash

>>10654222

Why post something so easily shopped? If you really want i could show you the stack of hand written deposit slips from when i originally bought btc back in 2013 instead.

>>10654601
I'm only one of those guys, and my 2 posts were pretty effortless. I asked to be convinced of XLMs worth, and I was instead called a faggot...

>>10654489
>and samefagging this hard

>when hes so mad that he thinks everyone is samefagging paid shills
HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>10654643

Well if all the past discussion and links to information won't convince you, then I guess you can leave the thread and safely ignore XLM from now on.

>>10654740

hay guiz, wats so great about xlm?

>32pagesofshit.pdf
>sift through our thread of shitposting and shilling asshole!
>gtfo lazy faggot lrn2read

Guess you're right senpai, good luck with your shitcoin i guess

>>10654630

XRP has 3 times the marketcap right now, but if stellar is trying to be the decentralized version of ripple, then that seems potentially more relevant.

>>10654840
>stellar is trying to be the decentralized version of ripple
kek
stellar bagholders actually believe this

>>10654850

well its a month old screenshot atleast this time

>>10654796
Did you even read OPs post?
You claim to want some basic information well there it is dr finance.

>>10654850
>Disclaimer: This map is based on the data from one stellar-core node. It may not reflect the actual state of the network.
lmfao

>>10654868
bunch of cripplefags who are trying so hard to act like they're not holding any cripple

>>10654930
kek, the cope
just go to https://www.stellarbeat.io/ and play with the Quorumset connections chart
anyone can see how most of the nodes are only connected to the sdf, satoshipay and ibm
3 entities efectively control the network
>>10654867
yeah a lot must have changed in 1 month :^)
just checked, still the same ammount of red nodes

>>10654930

The kind of fudding that XLM has been getting in this thread makes me think it will probably moon hard soon.

That and being one of the few alts that didnt dump +90% this year.

>>10654526

Looks like you've got it all figured out. Nobody gives a shit

>>10655000
kek, the only cope you will have to handle is $0.10 of XRP very soon

I honestly feel bad for Ripple fags.

Ripple has bled for 8 months against Bitcoin, while Stellar has gained and gained.

Stellar was worth 1/30 of ripple last year. Then 1/20. Then 1/10. Then 1/4. Now 1/3 and growing. Hard to believe it's now appraoching EOS and right behind Ripple. Seems like the market doesn't give a shit about your faggot piss attempt at fud.

Instead of debating the governance and tech on it's merits, they attempt to lob personal attacks, suggesting that Mccaleb is unstable, or pussy whipped or whatever. Then when that doesn't stick, they associate him with Mt.Gox, not seeing the irony that the coin they shill he fucking created.

Then they move on to "free coins for blacks", "wealth redistribution", "socialist conspiracy". Just tinfoil tier shit meant to shake the incels and losers. As if it's bad putting coins in people's hands would crater the price. Even releasing the entire lot would barely do shit, being that pepe would actually fucking use it.

So here we are. Stellar is rolling out projects. It's scaling. It's being adopted. It's growing. And one fucking guy whose bags are so heavy actually thinks his 20 posts trying to derail the daily is gonna work?

Lol nigga you are nothing. You're gonna be begging the guy blacking your mother for lumens. This isn't vechain faggot. This isn't modum. This isn't Tron. Stellar actually has clout, tech, projects and partnerships.

If you're gonna fud, at least put some effort into it. No one gives a shit who Jed is. I don't care if he's a cross dressing cuck as long as I get paid. Nobody in the real world does. Of course, you'd know that if you weren't a NEET larping faggot.

>>10655375
You’re just making the case that XLM is overbought and XRP is oversold retard

XRP fundamentals are 100x better than jed nigger coin

>>10655467
>imagine having this low of an IQ

>>10655633
Try making an argument

>>10655467

>jed nigger coin

You just proved my point lmao

>>10655729

Have you considered just looking at a basic graph?

>>10654157

bruv. here here. XLM 100, though f'up and bought some shitty low price stellar-ico, regret it already.

+never read a single thing about ripple, irrelevant.

>>10655771
>Implying graphs have anything to do with the movement of the market

Did your graph predict 20c to $3.30 in 2 weeks?

>Being this retarded

>>10655800
>trying to compare normie behavior during a bullrun to actual technical
>this is what he calls coming up with arguments

>>10654930

Are you implying I'm holding XRP? XLM looks like overhyped dogshit to me, but I'd hold that before I would ever even consider XRP

>>10655264
Awwww, did I hurt the poorfag shill's fragile little feefees? You seem sorta salty there senpai.

>>10655882

>comes here begging to be sold
>no one wants to sell to him
>"fuck off fag dyor"
>gets mad about it
>must be a shitcoin
>stays around to post insults on a mongoloian basket weaving board to make his ego feel better

I'd certainly kys. Will you?

How many $$$ are you in on stellar?

>>10655839
Keep buying XLM and giving your money to Africa retard lmao

>>10655375
Ripple bag holders wait on the edge of their seat every day for news from the company, because it has no third party development or ecosystem.

Not to mention they still have no partnerships, just pilots that went no where.

Fucking sad state of affairs for xrp copers.

Flippening by eoy.

Lmao you be ded when Jed gets bored and dumps his bags. Nice Facebook partnerships xlm Bros. Your fundementals are shit.

Try when you got Santander SBI 50% of India moneygram. If SBI goes live with Forex your ded just stay with Jed

>>10657026
Show me a better list than what's in op.
I know you are just trolling, but op list blows you out anyway.

What's xrps price when Jed sells his billions?

>>10657090
[citation needed]

price sure doesnt reflect this level of coping

>>10657142
XRP is officially the new SJW nigger coin
https://cryptoslate.com/ripple-partners-with-madonna-for-malawi-childrens-fundraiser/amp/
http://www.raisingmalawi.org
Hahahaha!

>>10657238
oh yea, thats the other thing that XRP shitcoin does

uses all of their pyramid money to get bill clinton, snoop dogg, and madonna to shill the dying brand

A price above $1 defeats the purpose of this token. Did you guys even read the whitepaper?

>>10657368
>Being this dumb

>>10657330
Dude that non profit they donated to is insane.
Its owned by Madonna and Michael Berg
Madonna is a psycho degenerate and Michael Berg is a literal fucking Kabbalahist
https://kabbalah.com/en/people/michael-berg
Combine this with Ripple endorsing Bill Clinton to be a speaker for them.
Fuck Ripple.

http://rppl.info cuck check the partnerships xlm will always be xrp's retarded offspring

>>10657379
Read the whitepaper. Did you seriously invest in this without knowing its purpose?

>>10657462
Did you seriously not read the OP?

>>10657472
I read the whitepaper.

Xlm fanboys are deluded it's a delight

>>10657591
>>10657442

>>10657142
see above and kys pajeet

Your going to kys when Jed dumps his 85B

He won't escrow because he likes quick escapes

>>10657785

>cant dump ripple because ripple foundation takes ownership of your wallet
>start a new coin that no foundation can stop you from dumping

huh, not a bad idea actually

Be so lazy you copy xrp and don't understand it you need David Schwartz to help but is muh better coin

>xrp crashing and burning worse than link

wow so many shills out in force
moon time

>>10652414
So they airdrop XLM to wallets that have XLM, but will they be able to airdrop it to me if i put it on a hardware wallet? Sorry if this is a stupid question (it probably is)

30 cents incoming

>>10659588

As long as it isn't in cold storage and can connect to another node if my understanding is correct

>>10659588
>>10659812
I would say once you cast your vote (joining a pool or whatever) the inflation is routed. You can store your XLMs in the cold wallet but it keeps growing...

>>10659588
yes, my XLM is in a "cold wallet" but i still collect inflation.

cold wallet is just a higher order of protection, but its not like your fucking coins are in there. your coins on sitting on the blockchain / distributed ledger

It's hilarious watching the ripplefags throwing darts trying to find some fud that sticks. What are you on now Jed's family life? Try doing a little research on Steve Jobs' family life. I would say investing in companies he was a part of was still quite lucrative lel.

>>10660403
this right here threatens the ripple cope poster
>>10657142

Let's address some key differences

Decentralised= xrp ripple hold 60.3% of tokens is escrow xlm Jed holds 85% of tokens not in escrow

Transactions time very similar as xlm Is a copy of xrp

Partnerships= xlm IBM xrp several banks including SBI who control 80% of Japanese banks and Saudi banks.

Enterprise grade software xlm=? Xrp xrapid

Other uses SBI intend to use xrp on the Forex market with a volume of 1T a day in jpy. Xlm some low level remittances.

Exchanges xrp showing massive uptake on new exchanges with it being made as the base pair on many. Xlm coinbase maybe no concrete confirmation.

At the end of the day everyone choses how they spend there money but please try and refute my evidence.

>>10660944
ripple has no 3rd party ecosystem, xlm does
xlm doesnt a bag holder with a BILLION xrp waiting to sell at a moments notice
xlm is confirmed for getting central bank digital currency on its network this year, xrp doesnt
xrp is a shitcoin pigeon holed into a meme bank use while xlm aims to exchange anything for anything, with XLM as the natural bridge on its network

N I G G E R C O I N

Which central bank?

>>10661178
Singapore most likely. Its also probably not a coincidence that Dowling's replacement at IBM (FairX) came from Singapore's central bank.

Plus xrpl can have any currency put over it funny that seems almost like stellar copied the xrpl hmm. You say meme banks please explain how SBI Japan is a meme bank keep smoking your shit dude rock on.

Every single stellar general hahaha, cripple bois remain assblasted their shitcoin is bleeding dry...Just bought more XLM, stellar bros were on our way

Care to source your claim?

Or is it just hopium

XLM is fucking garbage

No sources thought not :)

>>10661245
$1 soon friend

>>10661765
Another week, another round of news