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10631756 No.10631756 [Reply] [Original]

There are a bunch of threads about Oasis Labs / Ekiden, a project led by Dawn Song (pic related).
The implication is that this is somehow a competitor to Chainlink.
The truth is quite the opposite: it actually HELPS Chainlink.

Here's the deal:
Dawn Song's project is exclusively about "trusted hardware enclaves" (aka "Trusted Execution Environments"). It has nothing to do with oracles.
Chainlink on the other hand is a decentralized oracle network.

Chainlink's white paper also talks quite a lot about trusted enclaves, but it is nowhere close to Chainlink's priority.

Also, Dawn Song is a co-director of IC3, which is a partner to Chainlink.
So if anything, Dawn Song's project complements Chainlink by further refining the trusted hardware aspect.

>> No.10631767

>>10631756
lol

>> No.10631785

>>10631756
You don't get it do you. This isn't about it actually being a chainlink competitor. They just want the price to go down so they are trying to get brainlets to sell because they are swing trading scum that got BTFO by a green dildo.

You will get no reasonable responses.

>> No.10631788

it's all over

>> No.10631806

>>10631785
Oh I get it.
I just love BTFO-ing desperate fudders.

>> No.10631810

>>10631756
>It solves the oracle problem
>Not related to ChainLink

>> No.10631815

Here's some proof for you, this is the Ekiden research paper:
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1804.05141.pdf

ctrl+f 'oracle': a single result.

>> No.10631816

>this bad news is actually good for bitcoin, reddit!

>> No.10631825

>>10631810
>>10631816
lmao you have no idea what oracles are, or what Ekiden does.

>> No.10631830

>>10631756
C O P E

>> No.10631866

>>10631830
This.
Link fudders need a solid helping of cope.

>> No.10631871

>>10631785
this, swing trading scum

>FUCKING SELL YOU SHITS
>I SOLD AT 3700 WAITING FOR IT TO GO BACK TO 3300 HUNDRED BUT THEN IT JUST KEPT FUCKING GOING
>SELL YOU FUCKING SHITS LOOK AT THIS FUCKING BITCH SELL
>PLEASE FUCKING SELL

>> No.10631872

Fuck off, newfag

>> No.10631928

Even if it were a real threat (it's not), it literally does not matter

First mover advantage is the most powerful thing in the game - Bitcoin is shit for all intents and purposes, but it's still king because it came first.

>> No.10631938

Some more proof of what I'm saying, here's Chainlink's white paper:
https://link.smartcontract.com/whitepaper

ctrl+f words like 'enclave', 'trusted hardware', ... and you get a whole bunch of results.

>> No.10631950

>>10631756
the point of FUD is to drop the price. Stop spoon feeding stupid people

>> No.10631956

>>10631928
If it actually were a real threat, it would only confirm how important a project like Chainlink is.

And good luck catching up, knowing that Chainlink/Smartcontract has literaly years of top-tier industry exposure: Swift, WEF, Capgemini, Sony, AXA, etc.

>> No.10631977

>>10631950
The point of investment is to raise the price.

>> No.10631983

>>10631756
she's qt

>> No.10632006

>>10631756
it has nothing to do with "oracles" (a fancy name for middleware, which serves as an intermediary between the real world and blockchain technology) because it completely and utterly eradicates the need for oracles. which were never meant to be anything more than a temporary stop-gap anyway. Would you go back to wired controllers on your games consoles? LINK already had a short shelf life IF it got into the market early, but this announcement from Oasis Labs just halved it at least. Which basically crushes the value, especially when this Ekiden project is Silicon Valley's chosen one and the hype machine it will have.

>> No.10632013

>>10631938
>literally scanning projects for buzzwords
>doesn’t know what the words mean and how they fit together
This is unironically good FUD for normies tho.

>> No.10632041

>>10632006
>trusted hardware eliminates the need for oracles
AAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I don't even want to begin to imagine being this much of a brainlet.
Protip: the Chainlink white paper mentions the concept of trusted hardware (or enclave) a few dozen times.
Start from there.

>>10632013
I literally explained what those words mean and how they fit in OP.

>> No.10632053

>>10631756

>vietgook on team

I sold

>> No.10632079

>>10631756
This is the worst coping ever. You're just playing semantics dude, it's a direct competitor. It's like smrtphones are a competitor to phone booths.

>> No.10632098

>>10632079
said pajeet after he couldn‘t buy back his 4 Linkies and now only can afford 1.

many such cases
sad!

>> No.10632106

>>10632006
so the data will magically transport itself into the blockchain? or will all the events happen inside the blockchains (we're gonna live in a matrix)?

>> No.10632148

>>10632079
You have no idea what trusted hardware or oracles are and do.

>> No.10632154

>>10632041
It's really kinda sad that despite the fact she publicly BTFO Chainlink and Ethereum you'd still be deluded enough to try and make the opposite assertion. I bet you're the guy who can't tell when a girl isn't interested in him and keeps on pestering her until she has no choice but to publicly cuckold him to make it clear.

>> No.10632158

OH NO NO NO
HOW CAN DISCORD GROUPS EVER RECOVER

>> No.10632169

>>10631977
nigger your 10k links can wait longer. nothing is going to happen until sergey says so. Stop thinking you have control. Let it go, keep buying and wait

>> No.10632172

>>10632154
Sorry you couldn't come up with an argument.
And thanks for the (You).

>> No.10632177

>>10631956
>Swift
they won a contest. Stop making it more then it is

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>> No.10632212
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>>10632177
Pic is a post-Sibos press release by Swift.
It lists the Chainlink PoC as one of the key examples of ISO 20022 implementation.

You do know about ISO 20022 right, anon?

>> No.10632226

I'm pro swing trading this bitch, just sold todays top. my next buy is at 3500sats. t.link swinger

>> No.10632234

>>10632212
so key that sergey didn't get an invite to sibos this year right?

>> No.10632240

>>10632234
Why would he get invited this year?

>> No.10632262

>>10632212
here we go posting the same old tired pics that you yourself didnt find. I know what it is. Fact is SWIFT and sergay never directly said they have a partnership. Sergey always dances around it every time it comes up. And that's a standard that link has to comply to. That does not mean that they have anything. Have you done any contracting work at all in your life?

>> No.10632268

>>10632240
he wouldn't because he hasn't made any progress

>> No.10632278

>>10632240
couldnt find the talking point that someone on /biz/ posted. Why not think for your self?

>> No.10632290

>>10632262
>muh partnership
This isn't a Chinkscam, anon.
You want the Vechain or the OMG thread.

>>10632268
Even if Chainlink were already integrated into Swift's bond system, why would they ask Sergey to show how it works again?

>>10632278
What?

>> No.10632312

>>10632290
>>muh partnership
>This isn't a Chinkscam, anon.
>You want the Vechain or the OMG thread.
nice deflection. I dont think im going to get an answer.

>>10632290
>What?
you know what im saying everything about link is posted then reposted then reposted. Think for your self

>> No.10632316

>>10632290
>if my wacky scenario happened why wouldnt they do a wacky thing?
really joggin my noggin

>> No.10632342

>>10632312
>nice deflection. I dont think im going to get an answer.
Go look at other coins if you want to get mollified by meme words like 'partnership'.

>you know what im saying everything about link is posted then reposted then reposted
What does this have to do with inviting Sergay again?

>> No.10632362

>>10632316
The fuck are you even talking about?
Answer the question: why on earth would they invite Sergey again this year just to show the exact same thing as last year?

>> No.10632365

>>10632342
here we go. I feel bad for you. I can change the subject and not give a direct answer too.

>muh shit coin partnership buzzword.

>> No.10632378

>>10632362
he doesn't know because it wasn't memed here by someone else

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>>10632362
>literally unintentionally admitting sergey has made zero progress this year

>> No.10632394

>>10632365
I didn't change the subject.
"Partnership" is a meme word.

What's not a meme is that Swift listed the Chainlink PoC as one of the key implementations of ISO 20022.

>> No.10632413

>>10632387
>"if Chainlink had been integrated into Swift's bonds, Sergay would've been invited to show the exact same thing as last year!"
Lmao retard.

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10632425

>>10632413
>if

>> No.10632430

>>10632425
>laughing at yourself

>> No.10632433

>>10632394
>as one of the key implementations of ISO 20022.
idiot its a standard that needs to be met. Anyone can make a token and make it to that standard are you fucking stupid or changing the subject on purpose. Show me where swift actually confirmed they are using their network. I dont want you hear some lawyer speak sergey uses either

>> No.10632449

>>10632433
>Swift lists the Chainlink PoC as one of the key examples of ISO20022
>YEAH BUT, NO BUT, YEAH BUT... RRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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10632453

>>10632430
cringe

>> No.10632466

>>10632449
where is the example? I answered you already its a standard. You still dont have an answer for me. Just repeating the same thing over and over

>> No.10632474

>>10632365
then don't buy link or sell if you have any, you think someone is gonna play your devil's advocate games to make you comfortable? Sell or fuck off, that's my only advice

>> No.10632484

>>10632466
>where is the example?
The Chainlink PoC is the example.
Listed right alongside other examples including major projects like GPI (Swift's flagship cross-border payments project).

>> No.10632488

>>10631756
BCH will have their own oracle after thr November update. All cryptos will eventually similarly implement their own solutions. Where's your god now?

>> No.10632497

>>10632484
>The Chainlink PoC is the example.
no its not you fucking idoit. All that proves is chainlink meets their standard. Swifts standard. Again i could make a shit coin and have it meet SWIFTS standard too.

>> No.10632499

>>10632488
>All cryptos will eventually similarly implement their own solutions.
Yes, that's much better than a middleware that can connect to any blockchain or DLT, even at the same time.
/sarcasm

>> No.10632507

>>10632497
See pic in >>10632212
>"Examples of ISO 20022"

>> No.10632519

The day of the rope can't come soon enough for these greedy swing traders and their desperate fud.

>> No.10632526

>>10632507
where is the swift partnership? not a poc

>> No.10632534

>>10632526
>muh partnerships
https://i.4cdn.org/biz/1533906246129s.jpg

>> No.10632549

>>10632534
>muh speaking in circles
i have all day. We can go around as many times as you want

>> No.10632550

>mfw the latest pump is Sergey trying to bail out bigger investors so they don't put him up for a bounty.

>> No.10632558

post her teeth lol

>> No.10632560

>>10632526
it's customers* not partnerships.

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>>10632549
>muh partnership

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10632585

(ID: cSciG4Kq)
you've had long enough to accumulate. your words are grating on us. cope.

>> No.10632588

>>10631756
This project and LINK do not seek to do the same thing in any capacity. Really, Oasis Labs' project is a direct competitor to Ethereum or other smartcontract ready blockchains like ADA or NEO. Chainlink is NOT A FUCKING BLOCKCHAIN PROTOCOL FOR SMART CONTRACTS. It's middleware for interfacing between smart contract platforms and existing data API. That's it. There is no way this project "fucks CL". In fact, CL's oracle is currently being developed to run in a secure execution environment, the same as the one being described by Song and exemplified/developed by Ari Juels. It is entirely possible that this Oasis blockchain will be able to leverage the chainlink oracle network. It's not a competitor.

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>>10631871
it fills me with great joy to see all these greedy weak handed swingers get BTFO
now they're presented with a choice: buy back in at a 30% loss or don't buy hoping it goes lower, at the risk of LINK going even higher
oh how delightful to see them squirm like crabs in a bucket, trying to drag us down with them. No no that's not gonna happen my dears.

>> No.10632631

>>10632499
In a year all ICOs happen in BCH block chain and they already have their own oracle then. Link is DOA

>> No.10632634

10k linkies boys!!! officially happy with this

>> No.10632641

>>10632631
>In a year all ICOs happen in BCH block chain
Could you repeat that in English? I don't speak Pajeet.

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>>10631756

people are losing thousands. stop peddling bullshit to the normies, peoples lives are being wrecked who don't know any better. LINK is a scam and watching 4chan pull one over on the uneducated is horrible to watch.

>> No.10632657

>>10632519
Absolutely agree, bunch of greedy jerk offs. Hope they all get hung out to dry and have to fomo up. Sick of reading their bogus bullshit.

>> No.10632671

>>10632507
It’s not worth it anon. These people feel for the VeChain China hustle and they’re trying to drag you down with them. We will look down with pity on them when we make it

>> No.10632688

>>10632619
This

>> No.10632691

>this chink is apparently a "threat to sergey"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LQAI18_cxw&feature=youtu.be&t=1368

>> No.10632693

>>10632585
Rich pepe how many links do you have?

>> No.10632695

>>10632641
I can translate, I have a degree in toilet studies from the plumbing university of Bangalore. Pajeet says he's a fucking idiot.

>> No.10632717

>>10632693
pepe baller never tells.

>> No.10632855

>>10632041
Yeah I was just generally speaking on this new FUD

>> No.10633104

>>10632433
it's literally plastered all over the website: https://www.smartcontract.com/link
You honestly think Swift would allow that if they weren't working together? Use your head.

>> No.10633166

>>10631756
>Ekiden
i've know about Ekiden for like 3 months when i read their paper and its obvious this will be a perfect framework for chainlink to work on top of it. i remember reading it and being even more bullish about link

>> No.10633265

>>10631756
CS grad here, this is wrong. Dawn Song project make chainlink useless. TEE are a lot better than decentralized oracles

>> No.10634448

>>10632585
>>10632585
>(ID: 91h9UKyN)

>> No.10634489

>>10633265
Not only do you not have any idea what you're talking about, but you didn't even read what I said.

>> No.10634516

>>10632588
this. Most link holders fud themselves because they are not sure. so the best way to figure out is FUD it out and see if it can be debunked. pretty self explanatory. why do you think there's so much FUD about chainlink? people organically have interest and understand that the best way to figure out why something is a good investment is to figure out all the ways it isn't.

>> No.10634518

>>10633166
Exactly.