/biz/ - Business & Finance

People need money to survive, not everyone has the necessary skill set and personality to become an entrepreneur

>>10585543
Hey, don't insult the American Dream, buddy. /biz/ is full of MAGA /pol/tards that will defend this shit

Not everyone was born into wealth.

>>10585556
What personality is required senpai? Do I basically have to be a tool that tries to become everyone's friend?

>>10585543
Beats abject poverty and ridiculously high murder rates. Which was the norm of humanity for 99.9% of its existence.

>>10585543

>>10585578
wages in USA are much higher than in euroland
that is directly related to our freer market

Commies hate when you point out that the world is becoming better and better purely because of Capitalism

>>10585591
I think you have to
>be very persistent, since most of your attempts to make money as an entrepreneur will fail
>have the ability to remain focused and motivated without a structured environment to work at
>if you are doing something like freelance programming, have the ability to withstand the loneliness of not having any coworkers around
>be creative

Most important thing is to be very persistent. Most people are not.

>>10585633
Better for you
Some people dont like wage cuckery and homelessness if you cant keep up with wage cucking

You cant get more poor than 0

On the street

So no we havnt evolved to anywhere

>>10585660
>t. projection

>>10585543
I walk 10 minutes to work and I don't really even do anything so I listen to music, work on my own programming projects, and shitpost on 4chan from 8am to 4pm until I go home

>>10585664
was confused until I saw the bottom left.
just another commie projecting.
i've had bad managers but not even the worst were this deluded

>>10585592
>Which was the norm of humanity for 99.9% of its existence.

Nah, widespread poverty and high murder rates happens in failing countries/empires.

People don't magically become good because the gov't made a bazillion laws.

>>10585622
lol. if i get the worst type of exotic cancer costing a billion dollar $, guess what i pay?

zero.

guess what i pay if i wanna become aero rocket space chemical mars engineer?

zero.

burgers, lol.

>>10585660
>we havent evloved to nowhere
okay commie. go live in a society based on feudalism, dictatorship or tribalism then. because thats how the majority of humanity has lived since the dawn of time.

>>10585543
You should thank yourself you have a job.
Don't read quotes like these

There are people in this world that walk for 1 hour plus just to get to their job and earn enough money to buy a loaf of bread.

be grateful for what you have.

>>10585543
What an entitled piece of shit

>>10585709
That is the dumbest thing I've read on biz in the last 24 hours. Fuck me, you are stupid

>>10585543
Bukowski has that quote about art . If it doesn't come out if you like a river of lava, don't do it, or some such shit. He's swine.

>>10585731
yeah that's why you guys are retarded.
you say that like that's vastly better than our system. it's slightly better at BEST.
you have longer waiting lines and all sorts of shit that doesn't make it worth it.
we have insurance. my grandma got cancer, had insurance, it cost some money but it certainly wasn't a lifetime's worth of 25% extra taxes worth. not even 1/10th of that.
you're not paying zero. you're paying an extra 10% tax every year, instead of a one time $10k payment

your life is your life
don’t let it be clubbed into dank submission.
be on the watch.
there are ways out.
there is light somewhere.
it may not be much light but
it beats the darkness.
be on the watch.
the gods will offer you chances.
know them.
take them.
you can’t beat death but
you can beat death in life, sometimes.
and the more often you learn to do it,
the more light there will be.
your life is your life.
know it while you have it.
you are marvelous
the gods wait to delight
in you.

>>10585764
You're too stupid to even explain why I'm wrong.

wtf biz

>>10585543
> become everyone's friend?
Doomed for failure. If you have this mindset, rest assured people will respect you less for it and be taken advantage of. You don't become a leader or a businessman by being a follower, you become a leader by being assertive!

>>10585782
>waiting lines
thats for retards. straight up call her and dramatize your situation. i never wait more than 48 hours.

i went to /fit/ and got some stretch marks on my pecs from benching. panicked the fuck out. 24h later im at my skin doctor, a fucking doctor who had to go another 5 extra years to school to be called skin doctor. he took my panic away and said its normal, got a neat cream aswell. paid zero.

feelsamazingman

>>10585806
Act assertive all the time you'll just come off as being an asshole. People would automatically distance themselves from you or secretly plot for your demise.

>>10585808
you didn't pay zero. you paid an extra 10% or more in taxes that americans don't have to pay.
it would be a VERY bad year if 10% of my income went to health related issues.
here that would be a $50 visit maybe. but you only pay once, not every paycheck

>>10585578
How long would it take to get out of that traffic?
Why aren't there other roads why just one route?
Wtf is going on over there...

>>10585846
explain to me why the scandinavic countries like denmark have the most happy people on planet earth anon?

guess what system they have?

>>10585782
>it certainly wasn't a lifetime's worth of 25% extra taxes worth
You pay that just to keep your army going. Also I'm a NEET, so 25% income tax for me is pretty cheap, wagie.

>>10585871
don't start with that. correlation is not causation.
those countries are 90%+ white native, with almost no military to pay for
those countries are protected by USA but don't pay anything for it.
everything is easy when you have a wealthy homogeneous white society that doesn't have to pay for a military .
also their spawn location meant they don't get the brunt of wars

>>10585591
correct. unless you can make it in trading or some solitary type of business that doesn't require sales

Hey biz

>>10585584
Weath is a buying assets instead of liabilities.

>>10585901
>those countries are protected by USA but don't pay anything for it.
anon, you wanna be world police or you dont? your whole ponzi economy depends on exactly that or the dollar is game over. i agree on +90% white population being a big factor for happiness though

how is everyone doing tonight

>>10585960
I heard you like these kind of things?

>>10585578
We need wagewagons with blue headlights... Red white and blue commute webm coming soon

>>10585973
well it is complicated. but i would love to see the shitstorms in europe when the politicians have to cut social services to afford a real military

>>10585965
>>10585974
>>10585984
Reported; unironically kill yourself

>>10585808
Lmaoing at your gyno stretch marks, anon.
You'll be hit with higher premiums after your insurance finds out you're a retard. ^_^

>>10585984
fuck off you pos incel. reported

>>10585594

>>10586046
>gyno
found the dyel incel. if you dont have streth marks on shoulder/pec you are dyel or bench less than 140 kg.

>>10586067
I lift, but I'm not so fat that my hypertrophy gave me stretch marks. Time to cut, fatty.

>>10586049
>>10586032

>they think I do it for pleasure

>>10586013
okay i agree with you that the world needs a police force and that america has the majority of that burden. so can i assume that you also would like to pay less taxes, have a smaller military, and let the rest of the world police themselves. i would love it if my taxes went to healthcare instead of jets doing flyovers at the mets game in a weird attempt to recruit more soldiers to station in random places around the world that in no way make my life better off. no other country is going to pay for a massive military until we stop paying for a military that is 8 times bigger than the next guy. taxes are supposed to support the people that are paying them, and as far as i know mumbai isnt paying taxes in america. syria has never paid taxes to america. norway has never paid taxes to america. so until you quit masterbating to webm's of soldiers dropping bombs on the middle east, and start getting turned on by the idea of better schools, hospitals, and general infrastructure, please go eat a giant loosely woven bag of dicks.

>>10586164
most of than money is just going to employees of the defense industry. while i generally agree with you it's not as bad as its made out to be.

>>10586164
>if we weaken ourselves someone else will get strong!
It wont be your allies.

>>10586208
"most of the money is just going to employees of the defense industry..."

this is my point...it sounds exactly as bad coming out of your keyboard as it did out of mine. if the money is going to employees of the defense industry, and i think that our defense industry is bloated and weighted down buy gunnysacks full of extra chromosomes, then why are they getting my tax dollars. give my tax dollars to literally anything else. fuck, give them to amazon, at least they are providing me with a service. the employees of the defense industry are the defense industry. if they arent providing anything to society, and the purpose of paying taxes is the betterment of society, then why the fuck do these people have jobs.

>>10586226
i have no allies. i have no enemies. im just a guy sitting on his laptop in rural pennsylvania. what are you so afraid of...fear is bad for the free market

>>10586226
and we could literally cut our military by 80% and still have the largest military. besides that, boots on the ground wars are a thing of the past. any major escalation in the modern era is going to be a bunch of americans, russians, and chinamen clenching their sphincters in hopes that nobody hits the big red button. the fuck you think is going to happen, the only reason we have boots on the ground in the middle east is because they dont have infrastructure so its easy to parachute on in, or drive in, or fly in, or sail in. if anything serious breaks out, the fact that we have an embassy in rural uganda or a base in bumfuck vietnam, or an airship in the waters off of the coast of the panama wont matter.

>>10585984

WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU? GO KILL YOURSELF, YOUR DEGENERATE PIECE OF SHIT.

>>10586258
if we replace that with a big government healthcare system you think it will be any different?
they'll still be employed by the government, who will turn it into a jobs program that gets 10 cents on the dollar productivity compared to the free market.

>>10586319
historically the ruling power has always needed a force overwhelmingly larger than the next 4 combined.
If the opponent thinks they have a decent chance in a fight, they will be tempted to start wars
Even if europe started their own militaries, US would still need a very large navy and air force because of our geographic position.

>>10586319

its about controlling trade lanes. China doesnt have a deepwater fleet, but they have the largest merchant fleet on the planet. US navy & that sweet base off the coast of panama could blockade all naval trade from China, collapsing the Chink economy.

>>10586561
>>10586549
>>10586529
one of you thinks the internet did not change anything and people still have some ancient mine mine mine gimme gimme idea about why wars are fought.

the other one thinks that letting a ruling class control trade is a good idea. i have never, nor will i ever, personally, be in a trade war with china. but have fun trying to drive the price of steel up by funding a shit tier government that hasnt changed with the times

brainlet tier.

>>10586614
who are you pretending to be? you have no idea what would happen because you haven't seen it before
you think the world could just abandon militaries and live peacefully? naiveté to the extreme.
just look at the south china sea. the philippines is weak so China is slowly stealing islands from them.
Russia? They stole Crimea because Ukraine is weak.

you've drunk too much of the hippie kool aid.

>>10586529
and this is a whole other level. put the amount of money that we throw away on really fuckin neat planes and boats and soldiers towards healthcare instead of the military and i guarantee that we could afford to pay doctors what they deserve, cut wait times to zero, and buy everybody a jet ski just because we could. but hey man. keep it up. guess you dont like watersports

>>10586650
doctors get paid LESS in a socialized healthcare system. US doctors are already paid the highest in the world.
you are really young, just accept that you know fuck all about the world

>>10585693
bottom left what?

>>10586650
>pay doctors what they deserve

Dude, doctors in the US are part of the 6%.

>>10586636
...ya so what you are saying is that despite our massive military we are still losing ground. could it be because these things are happening on the other side of the world. could it be because no matter how big our military is it will never be big enough to blanket the world. stop worrying about russia and china, they will change with the times as well. fuck china's youth are literally all going to our universities and learning our progressive way of thinking. again, stop shivering in your wee little boots and start worrying about things closer to home. if you dont, then you will most certainly see china dominate the world economy in your lifetime because you were too busy learning how to march straight and circle jerking to video's of drone strikes to realize that our military is just a business that gets paid to look really shiny and occasionally act like something got done

>>10586722
looool. 0.0001% of chinese students come to america... they have almost no influence back at home
they only take business classes and don't even intermingle with the american students. they are not becoming progressive
fucking retard 18 year olds always romanticizing china because it is foreign and exotic, and you know NOTHING about it. ask any non-mainlander who has worked in china what they think about it... lmao
how can China overtake an economy when their entire economy rests on stealing USA's innovations?

>>10586697
>>10586666
i didnt say they werent getting paid what they deserve. i said that we could afford to continue paying them what they deserve. listen, im going to go now because you are clearly too stuck in your opinion to listen to anything reasonable. but if you cant understand that cutting the military would leave massive space in our budget for literally anything that supports our infrastructure, then im not sure you have any grasp on the real world. i get it, math is hard, and firing off a couple of google searches would be really hard because your fingers hurt from death gripping the militaries cock. but it pretty much boils down to this.

grug take couple rock from pile...put in other pile...rocks in new place...this place nice...grug like new rock pile. it closer to chisel...grug make wheel more efficiently now

>>10586753
hate other countries that are doing better than you more. im sure that'll be just about as useful as all of our military spending

>>10586782
china is not doing better than us dipshit. look at their GDP to citizen ratio. they use oil straight out of the gutter and cook with it. they kill dogs and eat them.
they don't maintain their properties and everything is falling apart.
Their cities are so dense with smog you can't see 3 feet in front of you on a good day. my planes got rerouted twice because it was too smoggy and the pilot couldn't see to land in the right spot.
if you speak out against the dictator on social media you can get disappeared.
now you just barely graduated high school and think that tens of thousands of years of military power systems is just going to collapse overnight.
ignorant and arrogant. but that's okay. everyone was young and dumb like you at some point.

our healthcare system is better in lots of ways compared to european. the salaries of defense employees are already reinvested into the economy so it is not going to be much more magically efficient like you are saying.

>>10586812
having a huge portion of the population pretending to be useful is not a good thing for the economy. i dont care if they turn around and reinvest the money in the economy. that is about as effective as these "free handouts" everybody is afraid of. you shouldnt pay people to contribute nothing to society. now doctors, they contribute to society, ya, i think i'll take a few extra doctors over a few extra marines, anyday. and how the fuck do you think our healthcare system is so great. its a talking point for every politician running for office, regardless of what side they are on...probably because people recognize the need for change. but fuck healthcare. take that military money and build a giant origami cock out of it. literally a better idea than funding a giant military that has to occasionally kick around some poors to justify its existance

>>10586915
it is not wasted effort. a military that is much bigger than the next 4 combined is absolutely crucial for maintaining world peace.
This has been the case throughout history, think of Pax Romana times when Romans ruled.
when ww1 and ww2 broke out was that the case? think of every major conflict, the balance of power was never so one sided.

That is what allows free trade to flow so easily, because if someone doesn't play ball, the ruling power will fuck them up. It is a price that needs to be paid, or there will be big wars and much much less efficient trade.
Could it go down a knotch, maybe, but you are overestimating that number by a lot.

force is best when it sits there, unused, quietly keeping the peace.

>>10586944
again. these wars you are referring to all happened before the information age. the game done changed. sorry, but you're going to get your rocks off playing with those little plastic army men. cause there is no way in hell anybody is going to war because russia hates gays or because china is a little bit too communistic for you to handle. informed people are what allows free trade to flow so easily now. but by all means, keep being afraid of the future, and continue to sit around shoving shit about rome down people's throats. im sure that shits relevant.

>>10586998
you are an insufferable faggot and I hope you get aids. your shitty internet didn't change shit.
If the US disbanded its military, China would certainly invade Hong Kong.
If the US stopped projecting force, no one else would.
disrespectful little shit arrogant and dumb beyond words

>>10587029
the US is not projecting force anymore little man...the world around us is treating us like the retard on the playground. trying to let us play kickball with them but we keep shitting our pants and screaming curse words because we dont know any better. go back to your post soldier. its going to be a long and pointless watch.

>>10585543
Not everyone has crippling alcoholism and depression, and some people can endure the hurdles of life without succumbing to despair or childish tantrums.

I'm not one of those people. I'm legit down to one meal a day because I'm so fucking poor, but fuck working for a job that offers no future and will barely support me.

>>10586688
probably meant the artists signature dumbo

>>10585543

>why do ebil capitalists create job offers, how dare they oppress us in such a manner
>what?! You're saying I have to work for a living! GTFO troll!
>it doesn't take any real skill to be an entrepreneur, anyone can do it, I-i haven't done it until n-n-now because I've have had better things to do, like attending gay pride parades
>people shouldn't be paid based on skill, they should receive whatever your average THC fueled tumblrina says they should
>muh ghorborations
>(((Bukowski)))

Go take your estrogen pills you stupid commie

>>10585871
Most happiness studies don't actually study happiness because the researchers define and measure "happiness" in their own politically (left) motivated ways.

I wouldn't trust most such studies. At least I would read the study to find out if it actually studies the feeling of happiness or something else.

>>10585556
you don't need money to survive. You can always learn how to live out in the woods.

>>10587062

>>10587029
>faggot and I hope you get aids. your shitty internet didn't change shit.
>If the US disbanded its military, China would certainly invade Hong Kong.
Explain why would China invade its own territory brainlet.
And who gives a fuck about Hong Kong!??!
Oh yeah I wanna have the stupid burgers fucking up everything and "Projecting force" all over the planet so that China does not invade Hong Kong!!!
Iraq, Syria and Afeghanistan are all worthy so that we defend those poor chinese in hong kong.
>the absolute knowledge of burgers on geopolitics

>>10587623
vietnam was a french colony
hong kong was british, and culturally they have absorbed western values. The chinese do not like this, and the hong kong wants to stay "western" AFAIK
anything that is not fully under the party's control is undesirable to the chinese dictatorship
afghanistan has been in russian or US hands forever...
whether you see it or not there is always a bigger power cucking every country since the days of colonialism
and before that it was still constant war over resources
it was only 50 years ago that communism was the greatest threat to this world.

i am very uneducated in history but even that is better than most, sadly.

but the fact is the world is the way it is because of who won the previous fight. if another fight happened, maybe communism could take over.
i never said anything about the middle east people assume so much.

But just for a moment, imagine China was more powerful than the US, and they wanted the world to become more communistic (instead of us keeping the world capitalistic)
Then they colonized san diego, influenced all the citizens and they grew up communist their whole life. Then they feel more like chinese people than they do american. Then year over year that area grows and it spreads to

That is the game of nations. it happens so slowly people don't see it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M90C7FA4FYU
video is a great example. borders are always changing and not always for the better.
it is the pinnacle of short sightedness to think that the internet means permanent world peace is around the corner

Add meditation, coffee and exercise to that routine, and maybe, just maybe, you'll be so far from going through life as a miserable, negative asshole that you start your own business.

>>10585808

>going to the doctor for stretch marks

Lmao retard

>>10585543
Biz finally found this man. Took you a while