/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>10486447
>tara tainton will never be 10+ years younger again

>>10486447

25
Military pilot
Love it

27
Doctor
I enjoy it but my work load is too much atm, probs going to move to Australia where i'll get paid twice as much for half the amount of hours.

>>10486467
Did you always know you wanted to be a doctor and was it hard to become one? Are you very intelligent?

>>10486447
27
Neet (sort of - Getting my real estate license)
I enjoy it, but want to become a professional investor.

>26
>back-end programmer/web application developer, writing in Bash, Python, Powershell, Javascript
>found the opportunity after the small family owned company that hired me for basic data entry realized that I could automate processes
>it pays $76k now, doing better than anyone else locally my age. Very calm, quiet work.

>>10486447
> 23
> Professional online poker player and studying finance in college
> I'm making a lot of money and get near perfect grades, but I'm honestly not enjoying life that much atm. I've had some depression and my life balance is pretty messed up; I go to bed between 4 and 6 am, I don't exercise and I don't see friends that much because I spend most of my time playing poker and studying. It's really hard for me to get rid of unhealthy habbits and live a balanced life even though I know what I need to do.

>>10486447
> 23
> Professional online poker player and studying finance in college
> I'm making a lot of money (averaged 200k post tax for the past 3 years) and I'm doing great in school, but I'm honestly not enjoying life that much atm. I've had some depression and my life balance is pretty messed up; I go to bed between 4 and 6 am, I don't exercise and I don't see friends that much because I spend most of my time playing poker and studying. It's really hard for me to get rid of unhealthy habbits and live a balanced life even though I know what I need to do.

>>10486598
A tip: Knock that shit off ASAP. Studying is fine, but force yourself into a better sleep schedule. Your brain is barely fully developed. You are fucking your shit up by gambling and staying up too late.

Don't you know everyone on /biz/ is either an entrepeneur with 5m or a software developer making 250k?

>>10486492
Listen I'm not trying to knock the difficulty of a doctorate. But in all honesty, the hardest thing I saw about medical school was managing debt. If you can complete school and function in life with 250,000 in debt - you can become a doctor.

Yes there is a whole lot of subjectivity with schools, residencies and applications. I feel that's the same in any industry, just scaled due to higher wages in medicine.

>>10486501
I just got my real estate license. Had it for about a month so far—haven’t seen any cash yet but that’s how it goes for the first few months

>>10486645
I'm trying to fix my sleep, but it's difficult because I've been living like that for the past 4 years. Poker is my main source of income (pic related is last 12 months or so). I've been thinking about quitting but it's hard for me to say no to that kind of money. Thank you for the advice.

>>10486685
Nice. I'm wondering whether I should try working for a business in the industry. That's my plan b. Plan a is that I make a lot more money off of BTC and then use some profit to go in on a deal with my buddy who is familiar with the business.

Also, I am hoping that the market crashes soon, that would be so sweet.

>>10486645
I'm trying to fix my sleep, but it's difficult because I've been living like that for the past 4 years and poker sometimes "forces" me to stay up late when games are really good. Poker is my main source of income (pic related is last 12 months or so). I've been thinking about quitting but it's hard for me to say no to that kind of money. Thank you for the advice.

>>10486447
18yo
Proffessional millionaire by EOY
I'm lovin' it™

>>10486722
Nice poker gains. If you are good at it and don't have the degenerate gambler mindset, then you're golden. But really try to force yourself to sleep properly. I know that you know, just hoping to stoke your fire bud.

25
Wagecuck/somewhat commissioned insurance sales job
It’s a good job but not even close to what I’m passionate about. I can browse the web and fuck around and still do all my work within 2 hours with very little supervision.. Need to get out of nigger-tier credit score before I explore other options though.

>>10486447
>20yo M
>study political science and philosophy
>will probably run some websites about shit I care about
>no need for an actual job as LINK will succeed and make me comfy

>>10486655
>the hardest thing I saw about medical school was managing debt
Well it might have been the hardest thing out of all things in med school, if you're smart. I'm 123 IQ, tops. I don't know what I'm truly capable of because my life problems hinder everything, but I have very specific skills in music. Math went over my head fast in school, but I think it's mostly because of my friend group who didn't appreciate school. Now it's hard to begin learning math, but I know I'm capable if I was to study every day.

I don't know what I'm talking about lol I don't normally get to talk to people smarter than me.

>>10486790
Yea I will really try, thank you. Not worth it to fuck up my health for money that I don't even need. I don't have a gambling mindset at all; I only play in games where I have an edge and I never tilt or chase losses. That being said, poker can still be really stressful and the short term variance can be brutal. It's very similar to being a day trader.

>>10486722
How did you learn to get that good at poker?

you are all posting in a data collecting thread.

>>10486856
What the fuck are you doing man you keep quoting posts that don't exist

26
I'm an "IT Director" Really an IT manager, but IT title inflation is real haha
It's fine. It can be challenging logistically and technically which I enjoy, but fielding sales calls and communicating change internally (especially when there is resistance) can be draining.

>>10486894
Nah both of us are... I think something is fucking up. Maybe 4chan is still having issues today.

>>10486625
I've got a question. How much do you make before the taxes?

Is it considered a salary or capital gains?

30
PhD student.
Best job in the world. Free trips to conferences and satisfying work.

>>10486856
Years of practicing/ studying and some of it is talent. You have to be very good at pattern recognition, logical reasoning and (to a lesser extent) math to make it to the top. Nowadays online poker is extremely competitive and it's by no means easy money. Most people who try to go pro fail (much like in day trading) and most pros can't make it past mid stakes. Just beating low stakes takes a lot of effort and talent.
>>10486894
I deleted my posts because I wanted add some things to them.

>>10486447
26
I work as a network technician but most of my money comes from mining.
I enjoy it, I really don't even have to work. Mining crypto makes more money for me than my job does. I just get bored staying at home all the time and want to make even more money desu

>>10486985
It's tax free in my country (I live in Scandinavia). I've made about 200k/year for the past 3 years. If I was playing full time I could probably make 300k/year. It's getting harder and harder every year to make a lot of money because of AI/solvers, advanced software, cheap cloud computing etc. (I don't use these tools much myself though) which is why I'm studying finance on the side. I will probably quit poker in 1-3 years.

>>10486447
23
Unironic burger flipper.
Only hope is crypto to moon.

>>10486509
You my friend are in a great line of business.

I am in a data entry position currently and it is driving me fucking nuts because I know there has to be a better way.

Where do I start? Are you familiar with Blue Prism or RPA?

>>10486447
26
Airline pilot
It's really fun when you have a good crew and just fun when you don't.

>29
>doctor
Honestly thinking about moving away from the field. Hate the medical subculture and I'm done with whining patients whose problems I have to fix.
Gonna move towards insurance and IT consulting, goal is to be working for myself within 5 years or so.

>>10486456
Den to titty freckles turn me off. Am i gey

>>10486923
this nigga eatin beans

>>10486447
>22
>Audio visual
I enjoy it because there's a lot of flexibility with my job and I make well above average for my age. I have my own desk and can delegate work to my subordinates, so I mean what else could you ask for. Sometimes it's weird that I supervise people who are 20+ years older than me.

>Asda employee (British version of walmart) while studying at uni.
Quite like it to be honest. Pay is alright compared to most my age and I pretty much get to choose when to work.
The job itself is pretty comfy. Just left on my own to stack shelves and tidy up. Pour every penny about half of what i make into crypto and the rest into a savings account.

>>10487480

Who do you fly for?

See a few posts up, I am also a pilot.

>>10486447
>33
>mortgage broker
>used to enjoy it. Used to make money. Now this job is like getting kicked in the dick repeatedly every day. I fucking hate it.

I feel such disgust toward this whore.


I wonder how people perceive her in her daily life.
With all these shitty incest videos.

>29
>student, graduating soon
>hate my life, no job lined up, but in Air Force Reserve... fml

4th Medical student.
No debt (education is free in my country).
100k in savings.
25k in crypto.
Not sure which career to chose at the end?

>19
>CNC programmer/operator, starting mech.eng. in September
>I am enjoying life, but there is so much more that I want to do but can't due to lack of time

>>10487746
>trust fund kiddies

31 y/o pizza maker and delivery guy. Only 10 hours a week, so about $15k/year.

Likely leaving that as I have enough classes for an AS in general studies and planning to finish up an AS in Comp Sci. Gonna be working with a friend later this week on a game for a non-profit.

Thinking of mobile app development or smart contract dapp Dev.

Studying Mandarin too (audio, not visual).

Content most of the time. I eat fairly healthy, exercise a good bit and have family support.

22 year old financial analyst working with the government

25
Unemployed for the past 6 months, burning through savings currently on vacation.
I'm happy but I gotta do something soon. Might wage cuck or scrape by freelancing some work.

>>10487805
If you're happy that's what matters.

>>10486447
24
Working with a bunch projects as a freelance PR sort of thing
It's pretty cushy. I get to gym, watch movies, play video games during the day while I work. Just gets a bit lonely at times.

26
Deliver food/sell weed/grow shrooms
I just want a respectable job so it's easier to hide the illegal shit. I hate delivering food. Growing shrooms is great though. I'd do it even if I /made it/

>Senior Quality Engineer in medical devices sector
>about $125k in a place that is much more expensive than any place in the usa
>i enjoy most things that aren't related to the operative business. ncr's a pain in the ass.

>>10487769
Why?
Doctors in my country only make about 150-200k per year, it's not like in the US right here. What career would you chose at the end?

>>10486923

Can you explain this title inflation to me please?

I'm 23, I'm going back to school to get into my school's IT program. I'm not necessarily sure what I'd like to do within IT but I'm really hoping that this area isn't going to go to shit in a few years given that AI is advancing.

I know that's an assumption but I'd like to hear some opinions.

>>10487873
i'm 35 btw.
currently i would like to do as much excel vba as i can, it's the part i do enjoy most. If you get any data in the industry it is .csv, .xlsx or .txt so it is really helpful in my environment, too. right now i'm doing like 85% excel vba, so i do enjoy my job.

>>10487890
>AI is advancing.
clueless moron

>all these posts
Nice honeypot you have here

>>10487990
t. newfag

>>10487849
Agrees.

Wanting to improve my financial and time management positions (both tied to self control) as my parents won't be around forever to help me. Coworkers are cool and down with my weirdness, but job physically takes a toll and equipment is for shorter people than me, so that makes the physical part worse.

Cut down from 35-40 hours a week due to chronic pain from job environment.

Might still work there once a week for 3 to 5 hours as people are neat to socialize with.

>>10486757
Damn, that's a nice chart anon.

>>10487571
Andrew?

>>10488068
Josh?

>>10487967
Please elaborate, since you're so full knowledge.

Can already tell you're a fucking faggot from here.

>>10487480
An honest question, how is it fun?

>>10486492
Orthopedic Surgeon here

Most doctors aren’t geniuses. Mostly its hard work and using common sense, the body is pretty much just a complex system of plumbing with a hemodynamic element. For the most part, once you get how systems are interconnected to each other and can reason/think through the pathway, its fairly easy. Just takes memorizing, hard work, and practice. However you get some geniuses but they end up being complete autists and go into IM or research because real world applications and clinical/textbook tend not to match, thus common sense/reasoning is needed.

Also, once you do well on your licensing tests its just a matter of mastering your given specialty. Its kind of like cooking or carpentry where you just gotta practice over and over till it becomes second nature

>>10488084
Mom?

>>10488107
You fly away from your problems.

>>10486757
How do you win so consistently? Are you as good in person as you are online?

>>10487045
which college do you work for?

>>10488120
...Steven?

>>10487630
>>10487480
do i have to have good eyes to become a pilot? i wear glasses

honestly it sounds like fun

>>10488087
businesses are far away from anything with AI. there are like 5 places in the world with working AI.
to be honest, businesses struggle with the simplest of all things, like user requirements.

I'm 25. Got fired from my job like a week ago after working there for 2 years. I'm getting NEETbux now. Just got approved today. It's kinda nice. Getting 70% of my prior income tax free while dedicating all my time to learning how to write Blockchain apps and applying for better jobs that pay 30% more than my old one. I've never been a NEET before, but I can easily see why it's so fucking comfy.

>>10488229
>write Blockchain apps
almost had me bruh

>>10486467
If you’re not white don’t come to my fucking country cunt.

>>10488256
>an anon on 4chin thinking he can stop immigration

>>10488188
Nigger?

>>10486447
20
neet. but can easily get a job as an electrician if i wanted to, hate the trade tho
i enjoy it a lot.

>>10486757
This has got to be a larp. If not nice work bro.

>>10487045
I want this

>>10488219
Why would you say it's far away? Given the pace at which the internet, IoT, and automation has changed over the past 5-10 years, is it not safe to say that AI/automation is continuously advancing and growing as well?

It'll be within the next decade that these technologies will make a good portion of jobs obsolete.

>>10488350
>clueless 23 y/o newfag
>question statement
>get an answer from exp. business professional
>refuse to accept it
well then

>>10488396
My apologies, I'm not denying it. I'm questioning it.

>>10488396
Also, I wouldn't consider myself clueless either.

>>10488179
Why do you want to know?

>>10488344
Finding a comfy professor is very important I should add.

>>10487994
t. CIA

37
Used to work in Oil & Gas. Now just have fun investing in crypto
Fucking love life.

>30
>Phone Jockey at Fortune 500 finance firm
>Surprisingly yes, I do.

I get to learn about finance, got 17% raise this year since I started, buying/selling securities for clients, learning the industry for my future.

Shooting at analyst or adviser atm. Company encourages movement to diff departments and we get 5k annual for further education

>>10486447
>22
>Accountant in public sector
>Just fuck around most of the day and don't end up doing any work.

Life's good.

>>10488445
tell sum stories champ

>>10486447
27
(web) dev
work itself is nice, but my current company sucks, leaving soon

>>10488554
Not much to tell really. Worked in an office in Denver, had a great boss, loved my job. Got laid off when O&G prices tanked back in 2015 and have been chilling on personal savings and investments ever since. Now I just spend my days doing what I love, shitposting on 4chan since 2004.

25
Full time student and absolutely hate it. Trade crypto and love/hate it. Nearing my last semester and than off to the military.

>>10488597
nice

reaping the rewards

>>10488617
honest question: why go uni then military? why not straight into military? i'm british, and that's how it's done here, even for commissioned officers (usually).

>>10488647

In America, in order to become an officer, you have to have a bachelor degree.

>>10486447

>Implying "I" exist.

>>10488197
Another pilot here, and the answer is no. I have 20/500 vision and wear contacts. If your vision is corrected to 20/30 or better then you're good to fly.

>>10488867
Okay, riddle me this. My situation is unique and I would like your honest input. I'm a NEET due to certain circumstances (unstable upbringing, yadda yadda) in my late 20's and I'm sitting on a small pile of cash (about $100k) from basically odd jobs and living in my mom's basement with no expenses for the last 10 years. Can I become a pilot or is that out of reach for me?

I'm slightly above average in intelligence and I can pass as an average white guy

36
high school AP Macroeconomics teacher

>>10488036
Ty.
>>10488330
It's not. Ty.
>>10488142
Look at the amount of games I've played during past 12 months. I have an edge against just about everyone I play against and I only play heads up. It's like flipping a coin with 52.5% probability of heads 17500 times. Idk how much you know about statistics, but over a huge sample like that you will always win very consistently (if you're interested you can use this calc to simulate the variance: http://www.pokerdope.com/tournament-variance-calculator/).).

Live games are almost always a lot softer than online because there's less competition. There's not a huge difference between online and live at high stakes as most people are very good at not giving away any tells. I rarely play live because you get dealt a lot less hands, high stakes rarely run at my local casino ad it's a lot more convenient/comfy to play from home. Live you play <30 hands/hour while online you can play >60 hands/hour and multiple tables at the same time. Some tournament players and cash game players play 15 tables or more online, i.e. 30x more hands that they could play live = a lot less variance and most likely higher hourly unless the live games are a lot higher stakes.

>>10488905
I know nothing about poker and am mainly interested just because this sounds cool as fuck—I'll probably never get into it myself. How do you know you have an edge against those who you play against?

>>10488892
What state?

>>10488882
Absolutely, though the details depend on whether you're going to do it for fun or professionally.

You can get your private pilot license (this should be your first step) within a few months and only 35 or 40 (depending on where you get your training) hours of flight time. This will cost about $8k.

After that, you should aim for your commercial license, your instrument rating (40 hrs and can be done in a simulator), and your airline transport pilot license (requires 1500 hours, so you do the math).

The most difficult part will be getting the 1500 hours for an ATP license, but you're in your 20s so at least you aren't too old. However, you'll also need several thousand hours on the plane your plan to fly, before someone like Delta give you the title of captain and lets you take command. Before that, you're basically an intern.

>>10486447
I downloaded all of her old Homegrown/SellYourSelltape stuff that she has since removed from the internet

p dope shit

>>10488882
>can pass as an average white guy
Oh shit. I missed this detail.

Nice try Muhammad or Pedro. We watch out for people like you and you're not getting a job. I promise you that. You think you're going to blow me up or smuggle some drugs, but think again.

>>10489002
So what's the best career path in the field, and how do you recommend I get there? Do you think simply flying commercial flights for Delta, for example, is the way to go?
>>10489073
>Oh shit. I missed this detail.
> Nice try Muhammad or Pedro
Kek, I'm white

>>10488929
There are only a handful of players who are as good as me at the games I play and I know all of them. It takes a ton of studying/playing to get really good so if someone new shows up I will literally always have an edge against them (even if they're big winners at other poker formats). It's like being a top 20 chess grandmaster; if an unknown sits down in front of you you'll always have an edge even if they're really good at chess/poker by normal standards. Also, most high stakes players play somewhat similar strategies in common spots, e.g. if it's considered optimal by most pros to bet 25-33% of the pot on an AA6 flop on the button after a single raise preflop and someone suddenly bets 75% then they're almost guaranteed to be a fish (by high stakes standards). I almost always notice "mistakes" (and try to exploit them as much as possible) after a few hands.

>>10489081
>I'm white

Ok my friends please provide me some guidance.

I am 29 years old, currently working as a seasonal worker at a resort in the summer and as a freelance writer in the winter. I got a bit lucky with crypto but nothing life changing. Cashed out around 50k with a 1k investment.

I’m reaching 30 and realizing that this lifestyle won’t be sustainable for much longer. Being older at seasonal jobs starts to be a bit pathetic when the other workers are college students or doing important shit in their lives.

I’ve been a trucker, a forester, a logistics coordinator and numerous other jobs. I don’t know what to do with my life. I’m very good at writing and can command a good rate but working on Upwork drains my soul and I hate how much they take in commissions.

I applied to university this year but didn’t get in. Not interested in going to community college and I feel like I’m too old for trade school. I considered joining the military but I’ve heard horror stories about being the old guy that enlisted.

I wasted my 20s pretending to be a musician and traveling the world. It was fun but got me nowhere. Now I’m looking at a big dark future. I need to figure out a path in life.

Any guidance?

>>10489123
>I’ve been a trucker, a forester, a logistics coordinator and numerous other jobs. I don’t know what to do with my life. I’m very good at writing and can command a good rate but working on Upwork drains my soul and I hate how much they take in commissions.
Gimme the rundown on this, how much can you make per hour after tax and commission on Pajeetwork? I'm also a pretty good writer when I try

As far as advice, I suggest considering learning to code

>>10486447
>born in '93
>engineering student, engineering physics
>enjoying a lot of the courses this late in the programme, mostly energy related
>struggle a bit with depression, the lows are really fucking low

>>10489081
>what's the best career path in the field
It really depends on what you mean by best. Most money? Most exciting? Best planes and people? I'll throw out some options to give you an idea:

>you work as a standard airline pilot for Delta, Southwest, or some other big company (disregard certain smaller airlines, because the planes are shitty, the pay is worse, and there's less career advancement)
>you fly private jets for some rich 1% Shlomo and get to travel to exotic locations and bang slav jetgirls on the side
>you fly for a private corporation and typically have a predetermined route, but you have more flexibility when it comes to working hours
>you fly to remote locations like Nepal that nobody else has the balls to go to and deliver goods or transport people in medium or small aircraft (high pay, exciting, dangerous, and exotic)
>you open your own private airport, declare yourself the FBO, and hire yourself out to whoever needs a flight (more potential gains, but you need business skills)

I'd recommend you get your private pilot license to start with and fly a few different aircraft to get an idea of what you like.

>>10488350
You're confusing things my dude.

Automation is like running a script to address a commonly occurring use case.
Machine learning is like solving a specific set of problems in a specific domain.
AI would be handling any given problem with no domain knowledge about it.

Automation is getting more common, machine learning is a meme right now. But AI? Real AI? Doesn't exist and probably won't for another 20 years.

> 28
> (investment) banker
> $120k
It’s interesting but work life balance is pretty messed up. I’ll probably keep doing it as long as the learning curve is steep, the worst part in trading/finance is that is seems you can always read more (books, articles, news), always have to stay ahead of Markets/trends, it is often exhausting. However over the past I discovered a passion for data/coding so I’ll be moving to a more quantitative role soon - end game would be to run my own algorithmic options trading shop some years down the road. Let’s see...

>>10486447

Picture source?

>>10489123
>Any guidance?
how much money do you make?

>>10489123
Need more information.
Post a screenshot of your results from "The Big Five Project - Personality Test"

>>10489123
stop being such a pensive faggot and just pick something

>>10489294
Finance cuck here, I'm in real estate development though. Our field is too damn competitive, finance students who graduate in 10 years won't stand a chance of getting a job that pays more than $60k and will 100% be predestined for back-office roles

>>10487571
Care to explain what kind of AV and how much you make? I love AV but not really sure the hot fields are. Programming? Engineering?

>26
>software engineer for a fintech startup
>$100k/year
I like it a lot. My coworkers are all really competent and nice people. I'm allowed to do whatever I want as long as the work gets done. The work is challenging and interesting. I have tons of benefits as well such as free lunches and unlimited vacation. My company has a "social mission" which means it's our goal to benefit society. I don't really care about that, but it does give me a small amount of satisfaction.

>>10489267
Thank you for the explanation, although I am aware.

I just find it hard to believe that it's going to be 15-20 years. Quantum processing is fairly new, I feel that it'll be another decade until we start implementing AI to complete remedial tasks.

>>10489378
>phonefags

>>10490161
I know I've said two different things, I'm off a tip right now lol

>>10489378
>summerfags

>>10487656
was thinking of getting into this, what kind of credentials are recruiters looking for, why do you hate it?

>>10486447
>How old are you?
22.
>What do you guys do for a living?
SaaS developer. Dropped out of college and living way below my means until my girlfriend graduates
next year. I'm making more money than I can even imagine(I have about 3500 people paying anywhere from $15-$150 for said software)
>Do you enjoy it or are you just doing it to get by in life?
Well yes and no. It's quite passive and I'm taking all of my time to work on new projects, but I'm also living below my means so I can send every extra cent of income to paying off college debt so I can be free of that in the future.

In the future I either plan to stay in the states or move to europe, where my girlfriend is from. I'm from neither but I'm sure as hell never moving home.

>27
>Nurse, hospital.
>70k/year
It's okay. Cons: It can be depressing and burnout / high stress are real. I have maybe 4 male co-workers. Limited upward mobility (stuck in a payscale). I work nights. Pros: 12 hour shifts = off 15 days/month. Fulfilling work. No "checking emails from work" or "waiting for call from boss" like a lot of my buddies have. Unionized. AMA if curious about healthcare.

22. Geologist. Mostly do manual labor when not looking at core. Have to live remotely a lot when I'm working but accommodations are very good and free thus I save a lot. The pay is very good I'm making 10,000 a month before taxes but I'm only working half the year. Hopefully I can find a more permanent gig with some more experience ( I graduated a few months ago).it feels good to make 40/hour right out of college with the potential to hit six figures next year.

>>10490270
>AMA if curious about healthcare.
do the doctors think you're a retarded faggot?

>>10489753
Did this. I've tried to learn how to code but I just dont understand the concepts. I can do html and css but making javascript and python do things confuses the fuck out of me. I'm not lazy, my biggest problem is completing huge tasks that could make money and walking away after the project is done.

Stupid question but someone here might know
I have an accounting degree and am stuck working accounts payable because I lucked into the experience. The pay is mediocre and the job is incredibly boring, but almost comfy. I'd rather be a financial analyst (I think?) Is it a good job, more interesting than paying some company's bills and looking at 200 invoices a day? Or should I go into Big 4? I think audit sounds fun, and if I could get travel assignments I'd be pleased. Otherwise I thought AML might be cool. Anyway, I've never worked any of the 3 so what do I know. How do I transition when most of my experience is in AP and I'm not a "recent grad" anymore (been 2 years). My GPA was 3.2.

>>10490461
>My GPA was 3.2
sorry, son

21
neet trader
love it

>>10490270
Pretty much this guy except I'm the only male on my unit.

>28
>RN, Hospital
>$94k/year
It was higher but I quit my second job to have more free time. It's an OK career but it gets tiring dealing with interns and bitchy family members. I work 13 days a month but they're spread out. I'm just working toward the pension at this point. Once I'm fully vested I'll consider doing something else maybe.

>>10490372
That test has no "openness" category.
Take the test on this site...
outofservice.com/bigfive

>>10488597
Heh, I work in O&G in Denver. Super entry level so I don't enjoy any of that higher than average industry pay. I kind of hate it because dealing with retards from Wyoming who can't into computer is a drag. The relaxed dress code is nice though, my manager wears jeans every day and many people wear sneakers or tennis shoes.

>>10490475
Yeah, I had bad depression problems. I test well though. Don't really want to get a CPA, it's a lot of bother. I hate bothersome things and am generally pretty lazy.

>>10490562
iktfb

>>10489267
I don't think 20years would see a big development in "AI". Computation simply isn't meant for that. The reality is that human cognizance can't be fully mapped with mathematics.

>>10488350
>IoT

stopped reading here. you should probably stop reading pop science nonsense

>>10490510
how bout this one. thanks by the way.

>>10490324
>do the doctors think you're a retarded faggot?
no, but I primarily take orders from 1 of 3 nocturnists (PA-C's) on a specialized oncology unit. It's usually residents and surgical providers that will cause you problems / be fuck faces.

>>10490504
>I'm just working toward the pension at this point. Once I'm fully vested I'll consider doing something else maybe.
Dude, are you me? Also working on a pension, then looking to persue a masters or even get out of healthcare.

>>10489123
People get into the trades at an old age. Try electrician if you're a pussy real money is elevator mechanic and sprinkler fitter (can be hard on the bod if you dont keep yourself in shape).

>>10490633
That is the right test.
This one is actual science and not Myers-Briggs bullshit.

I can see why there is some difficulty finding a career path.

Those genetic personality traits are tricky.


You were born with such a high Openness, you will need a job with a lot of variety.

Being highly Extraverted, means you need to work around people.

Being Disagreeable means it will be difficult to keep long term relationships with those people.

Nervous or Neurotic tendencies also make it hard to find something that keeps you from taking damage socially.

Honestly, I'm guessing you would be best suited for working outdoors with a big team. Or, maybe you are built to do something that makes you travel and change your environment on a semi regular basis.

From where I sit, it looks like your genetic temperament is optimized for physical labor... clearing forest, building stuff, exhausting your nervousness. Maybe make a huge list of everything you could enjoy doing outside with other people. Seriously dude, research what you could do outside with others.

Remember, the goal is to be happy and enjoy life. For you that probably means finding a job that involves a lot of change. You will probably have a hard time in most office settings.

If you're still struggling, those test results to an Evolutionary Psychologist and have them help you with your career search. There are some good ones that do phone consultations.

I just found a good one googling "evolutionary psychologist phone consultation"

>>10490287
What do daily jobs involve? Sounds interesting.

What do you find most challenging?

>>10490599
Pop science nonsense, what do you live under a rock?

>>10490701
>Dude, are you me? Also working on a pension, then looking to persue a masters or even get out of healthcare.
Yeah man I just want the security. I have 13 years in, just 7 more and I'm fully vested. Once I turn 63 I'm entitled to the pension. Plus I have money in my 401k and 403b so retirement wise I'm pretty comfortable. In 7 years I'll be 40 so maybe I'll go for a NP or try something else.

>>10489123
>Cashed out around 50k with a 1k investment
>>10489002

>>10486462
How did you become a pilot? I would love to become one but i imagine its extremely difficult.

>28
>pharmacy manager
I'm so good at my job so I recently got moved to a shitty store to put them on track. Fuck this shit. I'm applying for hospital jobs so I can have less stress and broaden my skill set. It'll be a $20-40k pay cut if I find something but worth the reduction in stress.

24
Leasing Agent
Wish it paid better

I’m lowkey autismo and love architecture, so I enjoy going around in skyscrapers and seeing cool buildings

- 28
- Crypto Analyst For Cryptocurrency Advisory Company / Personal Trainer
- Love my Life

>>10486447
>35
>Attorney
>love it but want to retire by 50 anyway

>>10488617
I have a similar plan as well, once i graduate im going straight to a recruiter.

>>10487555
nice digits

>>10486447
Stop posting these threads you cunts. What do you even want this information for? I mean, I know, but I'd like to hear you say it.

20
Co-owner of a small business.
Doing construction to not to have to spend the businesses earnings.

I love business, don't really have a special thing we do but I have self taught myself a lot about contract writing just been basically brokering other contractors on to different jobs but it's working out good. Have them sign a non circumvention agreement, negotiatied them down 30% to do the work we were bidding on and then had them perform the labour as a 'sub' for us. Literally made money off another contractors work.

Took the money and ran rope access training programs for good margins, cherry picked the candidates that did really good and hired them to work for us. 4 people working for me right now, I still work full time as a Jr. Project manager for another company . Feels like I'm building something. Love the feeling of progress and Im finishing my econ degree now that I have the money to afford it. 0 debt on the horizon :)

34
IBEW electrical journeyman. Been working as a foreman for about 3 years now. Wage 43/hr. Every year I work is about $200 a month pension when I retire at 58. With my apprenticeship years and journeyman years I so far have $2100 a month in pension when I retire. I've been able to max out my Roth IRA for 8 years going.

Things can be a little stressful but I can get pissed off and call it an early day whenever I feel like it. I can always quit and chill, do some traveling, sign the union books and be back to work.

Really if you don't want to be stuck with one company I think being a professional licensed union tradesman is the way to go. Plus you don't have to dick around in college.

>>10491069
man holy shit you're good. i actually had a dream job last year cutting trees in alaska with a team of 9 other dudes. it was paradise. im working tourism right now, driving a bus on a 30 minute loop and its killing my soul. same thing 60 hours a week. boomers asking too many questions.

thank you, really.

>>10488119
doctor here, tremendous respect for you guys

>>10491142
I work in a 50 person camp right now in the artic. Life up here is very comfortable but there is no booze because people would not be able to control themselves with nothing to do. The big picture is a drilling company we contract pulls Kilometers of rock from deep in the earth to the surface so we can look at it and do analysis on to determine if there is enough of a resource (gold in my case) for large scale mine development. Geology itself can be complicated and each mineral deposit value is determined from advanced modeling from the data gained from the rock cores. Since this is a 100s of millions of dollars operation and I'm fresh from school I mostly assist in processing the core (scrubbing salt off of the it, taking basic measurements on how many cracks it contains, finding out how magnetic it is) but at the end of the month I get to move up the ladder to describing the core in terms of mineral assembage and structure (aka use my degree). My dream job is the person who takes all this information and builds the big models. I want to avoid leadership positions as I prefer big brain work as opposed to organizational. Luckily there is currently rooms for advancement in both not just in my company but at most operations especially in the marriage of data science and geology.

>>10491924
Ahhh yes G&G research. Nice.

>>10486447
31
Nothing
No. I don't enjoy it.

>>10491913
Thanks. And yes only thing I know is bones and hammers

23
Accountant
Its OK

>>10486467
I'm a doctor in australia and i want to kms
Hope you like no specialty training places, insane training program requirements and exams that get worse every year, and zero specialist-level jobs when you finish
The extra money for junior staff isn't worth it

25
pharmacist
It's stressful but the pay is good

>>10491399
How's being a manager? Seems like there's so much bullshit you have to deal with it'd be hell

>30 yo boomer
>data scientist, working in fraud detection
>$100k AUD
I’m only a month in and took a hefty pay cut for this job ($15k) but I’m really good at this, because I’ve committed dozens of frauds before and I know what I’m looking for. I’ll progress quickly Kek.

>>10491924
have you ever thought about buying a fuckton of shares in the company you work for and then shaving your wedding ring into the core samples, then suiciding over the brazilian rainforest?

26, finishing finance degree, did 4 years military prior.
Life sucks.

>>10493348
tell me about the military

>>10493348
>>10493381
TELL ME ABOUT THE MILITARY YOU FUCKING NIGGER!!

>27
>Chemical process r&d engineer in a very big microelectronics/nanotech lab
>I enjoy it a lot

>>10488119
>>10492909
I appreciate the humility considering (assuming US student) that you are probably in the upper bell curve of scores if you are in orthopedics. I'm a piece of shit bottom of the barrel 2nd year. I'm just losing faith in myself day by day.

22
Construction manager
800-1100 Eur/month
hate my life atm but looking forward to start my own company

>>10486447
25
Banker
It's great

>>10486447
28
Cyber Security, Management
It's great, but where I am atm is a complete mess which will take time to fix. Aiming to be a CISO on 220k+ by 31-32

30
Neet at parent's house

Possible job at a warehouse so heres to improving my life

>>10494231
Love your aspirations.
I'm assuming you believe knowledge is power, to be able to achieve that goal; correct?

I've set myself small goals, so to speak, but am working to get into the Cybersecurity field by 26.

Do you believe knowledge will only get you so far, then it gets to a point of just 'knowing' people?

>>10487045
Conferences were literally the worst part of my PhD. I fucking hate that shit.
The work was OK, at least in the beginning, but I have so little self-discipline, it just made the whole thing a frustrating struggle.

28
My job title is "Paint Machine Mechanic" for a golf ball company
I really just do the most menial job in the world.
45k a year after taxes.

I absolutely hate it. I don't want to work in factories any more. I'm stuck here for a while because it's the only good paying job I'm qualified for. How do I get into the office life? I used to drive, I used to transport cash, I used to be a keyholder in a hardware store. I don't want to be cooped up in a factory, or a truck. I want air conditioning and a coffee mug, at least for a little while.

>>10486884
Im a 20 yo neet
Depressed
Broke
Overweight

Hows that for data collection

>>10494586
hit the gym, fatass

>>10494303
Get into the field, absolutely. I was conversing with a Cyber Security Partner for the Big 4 some weeks ago when he mentioned globally there's 0% job vacancy, with 200k roles unfilled. Pays fucking well if you know what you're doing.

If you're in university/college get into IT via internship or graduate program. From there build a relationship with the security guys. Ops, architecture, governance, whatever. Just be keen to learn and ask for an opportunity. Senior staff and ambitious people love seeing that shit. They can always use the help as well.

Just be prepared for what corporate environments are like when it comes to cyber security. The books, courses, etc will tell you what it should all look like. It will never look like that. When you hit the management ranks, you will be constantly battling budget issues, decision makers will often not understand the point of it all. Learn to communicate and negotiate on top of the technical security knowledge you'll build. That will make you much more effective than 99% of security professionals.

And yes, it's always who you know in the end. Get your foot in the door through hard work. Leverage connections to make it easier from there. I've managed to bump my pay by 40k this year alone and manage two promotions this way. Good luck.

>>10487045
Do yourself a favor, leave academia. I am a Phd, left academia, make a shit ton in the private sector. My friends are wasting their time in postdocs hoping for tenure track position that pays shit.

>>10486447
31
design internet infrastructure
eh.

>>10486625
A standing desk, exerccise bands and full-spectrum lamps may do wonders for your long-term wellbeing. You're kind of lucky in that you're in a position to throw money at the problem.

>>10494801
>full-spectrum lamps
?

can i just get a smart bulb and change the color temp or is that not the same?

>>10494763
Was it hard to find a job? Which area? I have a PhD in applied math but I'm barely qualified for any of the jobs I see. Applied for 20 jobs in the last two weeks but no responses yet, but maybe it's too soon to tell.

>>10486447
25
drives a truck, got over 600k $ from the first bitcoin wave.
Thinking about killing myself daily.

29
carpenter
Love it, but thanks to crypto I'm working for myself with my best friend, building houses with my own invested funds selling them. Wouldn't be nearly as enjoyable or profitable if I was just working for some rando with other randos.

>>10494831
Hedge funds ?

>>10486447
31
Software Developer
Love it, working on making satellites currently

30, software engineer... Work from home full time for a good company. Comfy life

-Marine Engineer
-32
-$125k AUS
-Its ok. The work is interesting for the most part. But sometimes you get some really hard, shitty jobs. Plus I worry about the health effects of my job. Got into it because I wanted the 6months of holidays we get when I'm not at sea. But honestly now I realise I'll never have a proper relationship and I'm getting to old to fly around the world and play the field. All I want to do is settle down and raise a family. But reality is Ill have to spend the nect 10 years at sea before I can even afford a house.

>>10495486
Heh, yeah how good is the housing market.

>>10486447
19
Checkout Operator
Hate it but struggling to find another good job

>>10495486

135 a year and you can’t afford a house? I am your age never have earned over 100k a year and own outright 3houses and have 2 positive geared paying themselves off (all in hills and Ryde area so maybe cheaper than what you want) just have to be careful with your money , you are on a very good income there is no way you need another 10 years to buy

24
Multi purpose accountant, from AIS development to financial audit.
All my money gone to gacha games, fuck gacha.

>>10488350
>I enjoy it, I really don't even have to work. Mining crypto makes more money for me than my job does. I just get bored staying at home all the time and want to make even more money desu

I'll give you an important anecdote. Make of it what you will.

I do big data advertising and data management. Meaning I work with trillion+ data point sheets of structured and unstructured data constantly.

On the side, I consult for some extra money. I charge people $400 an hour for my expertise.

The most common things I notice with medium and small companies is their lack of understanding of how important data is. This was important 15 years ago and people are just now catching on (large companies have known forever). Even more crazy is a ton of small companies have 0 idea how important web presence is to the success of their company.

So many times I go in and the company either doesnt have a website or it's like a 4-5 page website. Many of these companies are just now onboarding to the internet. The dotcom bubble was almost 20 years ago.

AI will go the same way. The large companies will understand the importance of it first, use it to its fullest and then medium to smaller companies will follow decades later.

>>10491069
Do me, anon (or anyone, pls help im desperate)

https://www.outofservice.com/bigfive/results/?o=69,81,94&c=25,25,0&e=75,75,81&a=44,50,50&n=63,44,69&y=1990&g=m

23
Fresh law grad, degree from top 10 uni in uk, 2:1 (i.e 3.33 gpa)
Don't want to be a lawyer
Interested in finance but it's so competitive it feels like a pipe dream

>>10487236
what your rig my dude

>>10495550

How are you making more in rent than the mortgage repayments?
What price did you buy at? Are you suggesting I buy some cheap houses to rent? The market is pretty flat here in WA. I get the feeling it might get worse as well.

25
part of the Board of Directors of the private community I live in (one of the two vice presidents. I don't even know how I managed to get it either).
I used to enjoy it, but there's just too much goddamn drama everywhere, not to mention everyone always comes crawling to me to bitch and moan about everything and everyone because they hate the President and want him out.
I think I'm just gonna leave next year, and try to get into event planning.

>>10487454
I'm familiar with neither, the business used Kofax which is common in the industry, we then changed to Ephesoft.
I got my start by manipulating files on the filesystem using bash, later expanding on what I knew about Python through edX and practice on my own time.

>>10495486
What degree do you have?

21 years old
For a living I build and sell spiderwebs made out of recycled used condoms
im just doing it to get by until i start to enjoy it

25
Got my bachelors degree in communication in 2015, worked in marketing/sales but those were shitty jobs and I hated them. Now I'm enrolled in a developer bootcamp, maybe getting a job soon so that's nice. Still hate my life tho, feel like I'm stuck in a rut and my life just seems to pass by like grains of sand falling between my fingers. I'm social and have friends I hang out with on the weekends, but I don't seem to care about that too much anymore. Maybe it's because I'm always raising the bar on myself which prevents me from feeling accomplished idk. The mind of a perfectionist is always in pain, anons.

all these succesful people and im here in my sofa shitposting at 22 with nothing but a high school diploma and 2k to my name. Fuck.

>>10487445
i love u anon stay strong

25
Software Engineer
I enjoy it 80% of the time.

>>10496039
I feel you anon :s

>>10493600
Just keep grinding and don’t be a spaz. Network and basically kiss ass till you finish residency, then you can be an autist if you choose to.

>>10486447
26
Project Engineer, doing really good salary-wise for my third-world shithole

>>10496106
Thanks anon. My only hope is for my crypto stack to moon so I can get the fuck out of this place and start doing more of the things I love. If I don't make it by the age of 30 I'm just going to necc myself.

>>10495959

I have three actually. (No larping)
Batchelor of Mechatronics engineering
Batchelor of Science (comp sci & maths)
Batchelor of Maritime Operations

Last one my company paid for. I'm probably way to overqualified for this job. Today I spent two hours watching a pump pumping shit. I recently visited a mate I went to uni with and he reluctantly told me he earns over twice what I do. I fucked around traveling for ages and was almost a year unemployed which set me back. Most of the time I just wish I'd become a doctor instead. Still the job has its moments. Sunsets over the Indian Ocean and all if that.

>>10486447
18
Software Engineer
Sometimes I enjoy it, sometimes not

>>10494763
Can you talk more about this? Seriously thinking of going back for my stem PHD just to teach college.

>>10489002
>1500 hours for an ATP license


fuck, well this dream was short lived.

25
Masters student/ Research assistant with no job prospects after I graduate

just fucking end me.

>>10489123
>I feel like I’m too old for trade school.

Don't feel like that. Do things for yourself, don't worry about how old others are.

>>10496398
Mister 3degrees, it's spelled bachelor not batchelor

test

>How old are you?
20
>What do you guys do for a living?
NEET, Playing Online Poker and Blackjack (usually make 2-3k / month)
>Do you enjoy it or are you just doing it to get
by in life?
love it

>>10486456
>there will likely never be any more hc videos from her

>>10496709
>NEET, Playing Online Poker and Blackjack (usually make 2-3k / month)
how many hours a day?

>>10496824
>how many hours a day?
3-4
sometimes I take a day or two off

>>10489092
I'am part Neanderthal and I'am proud of my roots

>>10486462
Fixed wing or rotary?

>>10486447
>25
>Halfway through PhD in chemsitry/ materials science
>Floated through bachelors degree and took what seemed like an amazing offer at the time
>wow I get a PhD and I get payed (a small stipend, but still no debt)
>took the opportunity without ever thinking if its right for me
I have recently realized academia is a meme career choice. Surrounded by postdocs in their 30s earning 30k with no lives/ job security.

Currently saving towards a masters in computer science so I can at least have a real employable skill when I'm 28. Sucks to be in education so long; learning the hard way sucks, but at least I learned. Nothing can compete with the work/life/salary balance afforded by tech in Ireland. Can also at least virtue signal a resumé with lots of degrees, though to be honest I'm not sure if that helps or hurts after becoming so specialized with a PhD. If all goes according to play, I will have a bachelors degree in medicinal chemistry, PhD in materials chemistry, masters in statistics and a masters in computer science, applying for my first job at 28; Mixed feelings there, might be too qualified for entry level but not experienced enough for anything else.

a lot of posts ITT seem rather fake

>>10486625
>Professional online poker player
How?

Literally how? Where do you live? I thought this would be impossible because competition/luck/software

>>10491069
Hey Anon,
Will you do me? Currently working as a web developer, 85k salary. Small business, ~7 employees. The 2 owners are awesome but most of the others working there are douches. I work remotely from home 99% of the time because of how incompetent the atmosphere is. My bosses have grown to fully trust me, I'm the only one allowed to work remote.

I want to either automate my job and make more money for higher output or go freelance and have other clients, or start a different business altogether. 85k sounds like a lot to some but rent is high and I am still paying student loans. I think my bosses are making killer profits off of my work as well. Working 50+ hours per week and doing everything myself is exhausting and I feel like I should be getting more efficient than this.

>>10491069
Open / conscientious / introverted / disagreeable / nervous lawyer here.

Can I ever be happy?

24
Law student (entering second year of three)
11k in savings
30k of student debt, should be finishing with about 75k total

Things are okay I guess.

>22
>software engineer/programmer, 110k/year (not good enough for my parents though). It's a startup so I get some equity too but nothing like free lunches or subway cards or other stuff you get at big companies.
>I enjoy it but it can get really stressful. When the company is so small each person has a ton of responsibility and people can't handhold you through everything. The good thing is working overtime is heavily discouraged and they're flexible with working from home if I need to. I think if I could do anything in the world I would like to do a grad degree in english lit and teach university, though that's definitely way harder than what I'm doing now.

27
Shift supervisor at a casino.
Having to be there every single holiday sucks as but I've never made more money and done so little at a job.

I show up sit at desk and send people to calls from my computer if there are any. Walk around when I'm bored. And occasionally listen to a person who comes in 3 times a week tell me that they're never coming back because we are stealing from them.

>>10493331
Shares no Because the bag would be really heavy since I know too much insider information. The raping the rainforest is a shame and ill probably never take a contract there because the reality of it is you end up killing bush people for shinny metal and working in the jungle sounds awful. We're pretty good up here about not disturbing the tundra by being really careful with salt and shooing any animals away so they don't get people aclimated. We do have a caribou that won't leave camp though which probably got seperated from it's herd so it hangs out with us for safety against the wolves and wolverines. About half of the people working here are Inuit and are very chill.

>>10486447
35

IT/Business/DevOps hybrid analyst, i guess... i don't really have an official title that fits because i touch a number of areas and work in different roles every week.

I like it, i work on multiple projects and share ownership in a few major ones. Every day is different, I'm never bored, make pretty good money.

I also have side businesses i help run and hold stake in, but i like my current job so I'm sticking with it for a little while longer.

29

air traffic controller

Surrounded by niggers, women, and retards because thats all the FAA hires anymore.

I enjoy being utterly superior to them in every way and being the 'go to guy' for busy traffic, since its basically women and minorities acknowledging that they need a white man to save them.

I wouldn't feel that way if the niggers, women, and retards could control traffic, but 5 years of this shit has demonstrated that 9/10 of all niggers, women, and retards who somehow make it through the FAA schoolhouse have absolutely no business being anywhere near a radio, much less directing the flow of air traffic around an airport.

I used to like the job, but now every day is a struggle to manage a crew of niggers, women, and retards, because they are incapable of acting responsibly without constant supervision.

When it's just me an a pattern it's bliss, but since I'm often the only actual human being in the facility, management of the livestock falls on my shoulders most of the time.

All the 'old white dudes' are retiring or have changed to more laid back facilities, or to super busy facilities. Entry-level facilities are staffed mostly by the dregs the FAA rounded up in their diversity hiring initiative (read: no white men allowed). I am looking for a way out, but I feel trapped since there are no responsible people to take my place at this facility, and my record is getting slammed because of all the shit the mongrels do on my watch.

>>10497905
kek. is it really like that? you're not just LARPing because Tucker Carlson did the segment on how they sought out unqualified people purposefully?

jfc man.

>24
>Typically do brand strategy and marketing dev at startups. Equity in a handful of them.
>Also have jewelry studio - want to break out of the organic-old-white-lady niche and into the covered-in-diamonds tier. Putting together some money for production budget for a new collection. Will be absolutely lit when this round is completed. The issue has been that I’ve been perceived as too bleeding edge with the designs, simply because a lot of money people aren’t culturally in touch with the niche. $20k left.

It just occurred to me.

I am bagholding western civilization.

It's already collapsing, and I made the mistake of joining an infrastructure related field as one of the few intelligent, competent people.

It's on its way down, but I am holding onto it like a retard.

What the fuck am I doing?

>>10497930

I don't watch TV, but I'm sure whatever the segment was about was exaggerated for views. I can only tell you about what I've experienced.

I got in on the very tail end of "experienced controller hires", back when the FAA was taking prior rated air traffic controllers from the military and other backgrounds, and training them.

They started the shutdown of hiring whites and experienced controllers almost immediately after I was sent to my first facility. It would be comical how racist it is, if it was happening in a different industry.

ATC is not the place to have these gay little diversity experiments, but the psychotic Obama era appointees and upper management hires are literally a bunch of socialists, so basically the FAA is doomed.

>>10497905
Oh wow, this is actually really scary.

>>10497939
The scary thing is this is happening throughout key industries and government departments even at the highest levels. Western Civilization is in trouble. Military, government, CIA, business. There's a massive shortage of competent people and the AA hiring and diversity bullshit is dangerous. And the decline of whites in America is really going to affect quality of life.

>>10486447

I 100 eth into zethr.io 24 hours ago and ive just doubled my money

>23
>Studying MSc degree
>Waiter
>Depressed
>400pounds/month
>Puting all my income into crypto
>Insanely rich in 2 years er kms in 2 years

>>10498120
are you the british version of me?

>>10493348
I'm about to get out; what's so bad about it ?

>>10498042
>>10498095

Oh you think its scary now? Over the next 10 years 50-60% of experienced air traffic controllers are going to retire. The ones hired after Reagan fired a bunch of them.

Instead of trying to hire experienced, prior rated controllers, the FAA instead decided to start taking people off the street, no college experience required, only high-school diploma, and with a "diversity" initiative meant to "balance out" the employee pool of mostly white people.

So you've got a new generation of "air traffic controllers" with sub 100 IQ that consists mostly of niggers, women, mulattoes and other mutants that were chosen via LOTTERY and determined by the extremely relaxed screening process to be suitable for government employment, who are now being forced through the training pipeline.

All the retiring guys don't give a shit, so they pencil whip all the training documents and sign off for the nigger horde that the FAA threw into their lap. Why would they fight it? They would lose their retirement if they did, so the ONLY thing they can do is sign off on it, since the FAA has a gun to their heads.

It's a generation of competent, skilled tradesmen being replaced by a screeching mass of baboons and low iq roasties.

The FAA will blame the inevitable collapse of their safety numbers on 'increased traffic' and demand more automation technology that will allow their monkeys to slap buttons on a screen and make ATC happen.

We don't have the technology yet, and the breakdown and lack of training is TERRIFYING when shit hits the fan in an emergency situation or any time somebody needs to demonstrate some creativity in how they solve a complex traffic situation.

I'm so fucked if I stay.

>>10498042
Its not as bad as you think. For one, pilot's aren't retards(most of the time) and see and avoid is still the key rule in the sky. Plus if ATC is being retarded they can basically disregard their instructions to get to a position of safety. Furthermore with new improvements like the ADS-B mandate along with the TCAS systems the chance of hitting someone is pretty fucking low.

So basically its not like these dudes are purely relying on ATC. ATC is more like a traffic light at a busy intersection.

>>10498126

33 here, 0 savings. Work from home as a freelance writer.

What I dont understand is that I cant seem to focus or work efficiently unless I am completely alone in my house. No roommates or anything.

My plan is to go into webdev. But to do this I need to focus!

>>10498163

yeah you are absolutely right, the likelihood of planes colliding in mid air is pretty fucking tiny

however the economic impact of retards pretending to do ATC can be ridiculously high, and I think you will agree that you would like your ATC to be competent and know how the fuck to help you if you are having engine or electrical problems


>>10498206

what the fuck is a "freelance writer"? what do you even do?

>>10487827
salary?

>>10498157
>demand more automation technology that will allow their monkeys to slap buttons on a screen and make ATC happen

>muh VOR and ADF

But seriously though I hope they don't fucking privatize us like they do with Canada. These initiatives would be 10x worse if a company was trying to make a profit.

I love Tara Tainton so fucking much, I wish she was my mommy gf.

>>10498227
I'm sure you're right on the money with your assessment dude. And I definitely agree with ATC being absolutely critical. Its a real fucking shame that's its come to this. Hopefully there's still a bunch of guys like you that will stick around though. We need it.

>>10497935
jewelrybro

>>10498241
>These initiatives would be 10x worse if a company was trying to make a profit.
As opposed to a low-bid government contractor trying to coerce the feds into a decades long business arrangement where they do the bare minimum of r&d?

IDK, but things are accelerating. The FAA upper management is also retiring soon and the only ones left will be the Obama era appointees and out-of-agency hires. I believe the agency will detonate in an unprecedented way, since it is one of the few government agencies with this amount of public exposure.

>>10498271

I'm already planning my exist strategy, and scooping up related certs. I am planning to get into automation and sim design. I want no part in managing the looming fiasco.

If I saw a glimmer of hope on the horizon I would consider staying in for my 20+, but it just looks too grim. I will leave, then I will go overseas and help third worlders build their ATC infrastructure and make twice as much. FAA is FUCKING doomed. It's just a matter of time.

>>10497073
Why not try looking for industry jobs in your field? Or even stats jobs. I see tons of stats/data analysis jobs. Or both, you can tailor your CV depending on the job.

Btw, why did you do a masters in statistics and then a PhD in chemistry after?

I'm Irish btw and I'm looking for jobs all over the EU and elsewhere. I'd be limiting myself to a tiny fraction of the opportunities if I just looked in Ireland, plus I wouldn't mind experiencing a different country.

>>10498319
>As opposed to a low-bid government contractor trying to coerce the feds into a decades long business arrangement where they do the bare minimum of r&d

Fair point for sure.


>If I saw a glimmer of hope on the horizon I would consider staying in for my 20+, but it just looks too grim. I will leave, then I will go overseas and help third worlders build their ATC infrastructure and make twice as much. FAA is FUCKING doomed. It's just a matter of time.


Fuck dude, I had no idea it was that bad. How do you see this affecting Joe Schmoe pilot in his Cessna? I fly out of an uncontrolled airport so my interaction with ATC is slim to none. But this still sounds like a time bomb for the NAS though. Fucking FAA...

>>10486447
>How old are you?
31
>What do you guys do for a living?
was software engineer, now i'm managing software engineers
>Do you enjoy it or are you just doing it to get by in life?
i'm doing it for the money. my company is about to be bought by ATT so i might get some sweet stock offering as incentive to stay. i'm pumping that money into investing and real estate with plans to retire before 40 (or at the very least... work for pleasure rather than working for money)

>>10498470

>How do you see this affecting Joe Schmoe pilot in his Cessna? I fly out of an uncontrolled airport so my interaction with ATC is slim to none. But this still sounds like a time bomb for the NAS though. Fucking FAA...

Unless you are flying around or through class B airspace I don't think it's going to affect dudes in your situation.

I am assuming your strips are privately owned, operated, and maintained? Invest in a good GPS and you are set. This time bomb is going to affect big airports, airlines, and air freight the most.

I don't see it having much of an impact on vfr operations.

>>10488087
not OP but IT is about managing humans and making sure the org has access to the digital things they need. it's got nothing to do with AI. really literally nothing.

>>10498559
I suppose that's good for me. But I'm sure as consumers and air travelers its going to be pretty bad. And its a county owned Class E airport. It has RNAV and GPS approaches but the daily traffic is pretty low.

>26
>Assistant bank manager/MLO
This is my first job working in a bank. It's a really easy job tbqh but it doesn't pay enough as the company I work for doesn't pay commission. Gonna jump ship to either a mortgage brokerage shop or a bigger bank so I can get commission.

>21
>Sysadmin

Love it and the pay is fucking fantastic

Hello I’m 20 yo
I go to community college and work free labor making slave dollars just trying to get by. I alsways work hard because to kill the Jews we must master ourselves first.

>>10490461
>I'd rather be a financial analyst (I think?) Is it a good job, more interesting than paying some company's bills and looking at 200 invoices a day?
look you probably know this already, anything is better than being cube monkey AP invoice wrangler
>Or should I go into Big 4?
how much do you like assholes and sucking dick? I haven't heard many who are happy grinding in big 4 for promotion/partnership. think smaller firms are comfier and better than the 4
>audit
audit is dank and a great way to learn the whole business. anything in the compliance area is also good
>How do I transition when most of my experience is in AP and I'm not a "recent grad" anymore (been 2 years).
talk to some people who work in different areas, find out about their job, how the role works
improve excel skills (vlookup, pivot table, number manipulation, using the various excel buttons (eg trace precedents), learn the useful formula functions)
lrn2 interview eg demonstrate that you can learn stuff and have knowledge and are bright; demonstrate you communicate effectively with people and can get along with others
apply for positions where your AP is a benefit (eg multiskill position where you do a lot of different things rather than just a particular section of the business accounting)
govt jobs

>>10486447
26
Miner, not of crypto but of data
Loving it right now, the Blumpf election and bitcoin ponzi brought in a lot of newfags for us to harvest

>>10490258
Not sure what recruiters are looking for. I have my own shop. I only care if people can sell and where they are licensed. I hate how this business is feast or famine and nothing in between. While we were busy I was taking home between 30k-60k per month. Now that's about how much I will take home for the year. Don't do this job. Get something more stable.

27
My job title is Integrated Rating but I always tell people that I'm a deckhand on an offshore tugboat because that is much easier to understand.
Earn about $120,000AUD a year, work a five weeks on, five weeks off roster.
Fantastic job if you're single, excellent pay and a lot of time off. The downside is now that I'm in a relationship being away for so long is absolute torture. I work with plenty of guys who are married and have kids, I can't possibly imagine working away for so long and missing out on first steps, first words, birthdays etc.
I've been studying different careers to switch into but it's extremely difficult since I've become accustomed to the good pay and the skill set isn't very transferable to most land jobs.

>>10497473
If you’re good at your job and enjoy practicing, you might. The unpleasant shit will eat you up more

>>10487869
Do you have any links for someone who would like to grow shrooms but hasn't before?

>>10496398
What job does your mate do?

40, University IT manager, Yeah I love it, been doing it 20 years now.

>>10499961
Should've pointed out that it's $120,000AUD gross, I pay way too much tax because I have a lot of savings and no debt.

>>10491655
Why are people saying this is a CIA honey pot?

>>10493328
How did you get into that line of work Anon?

>>10497660
How much do you earn?

>>10487513
good luck

>>10488445
what is the best jobs in O&G? You can get job only through education? thank you

>>10491655
no no. you stop

>28
>Neet on the way to not being a neet. Might get a job soon that makes less than 1k/Mo but physical presence might be not necessary.

Thinking if i can arrange it as such to get a part time job on the side in finance or IT and i aim to go and get the CISCO course for two years.

Network Admin some shit and then go for CyberSec.

I'm pretty sure anyone who is smart doesn't really like their job... unless they are working on their own personal creation and it is simultaneously making them money, fame, and getting them laid.

Of course this is not actually possible for every person to pull off, so wagecuck we must.

>>10497279
Making money off poker is quite possible. It took me a year of casual playing to be proffitable though. It''s a game of luck, but you controll how much

>>10488087
The jobs in IT would be the last ones to be replaced by AI or tech

24
NEET
optimal lifestyle for me, i'll do a clinical trial for 2k if i run out of dosh but otherwise continue doin nothin