/biz/ - Business & Finance

first for Buy AAV

>>10472987
Kill yourself

First for SNAP puts

Holy fuck this takes the cake for insane FUD from short sellers.

https://twitter.com/Latrilife/status/1023444222630711297

First for PPSH is best /smg/

>>10473003
;_;

>>10473014
kek
are they like... gangstalking tesla employees?

>>10473029
no way that am p90

>>10473056
They are doing everything you could possibly imagine. Including outright sabotage insiders.

>>10473014
jesus fucking christ; the absolute state of short sellers
have no doubt that people like this exist in the world; to what end or advantage would somebody go through these lengths?
just fucking creepy, I've heard stories about fellow workers being stalked or harassed in the morning hours before work
this stuff shakes me a little

>>10473094
https://twitter.com/Latrilife/status/1023436626947584005

Here is the twitter thread, person is clinical.

>>10473014
me kek

>>10473130
this is one of those times where I hate somebody enough to bet against them
TSLA's not a stock I'd like to play with though; there's a certain amt. of debt I'm not willing to work with

>>10472987
You're so delusional, its adorable. You even put a cute little rocket ship on your chart.

Do you actually own AAV?

>>10473202
I feel like my strategy will be being long into ER, but have cash to buy a dip thursday ready.

How do I start making money? I've never done anything before and just made a paypal. I don't even know how to use it.

>>10473284
work at pizza hut

>>10473433
Nearest one is 40 min away. Wouldn't be worth the drive anon. You're smart you know that >>

>>10473444
start mowing lawns or other manual labor around your area, always a market for that old people will pay

>>10473444
make shake and bake meth and sell it to the homeless

>>10473244
Yes ;_;
What am wrong with AAV?

>>10473014
Sounds like something Axe Capital would do.

>>10473494
the first good move you've made in a long time
but what's your reasoning for making it?

>>10473465
reasons to sell bad drugs to the homeless
1. fake drugs won't hurt them like real drugs
2. you get their money for keeping them safe
3. their bones are brittle and soft like clay, you can outrun them easy

>>10472514
>understands finance better than me
>better trader
>more money
>older than me
>ex-raver chick
>into weird fucking music
>polar opposite trading style
HNGGGGGGGGGGGG

Does anyone know why I cannot see options on Robinhood when I have it open in Memu on my desktop? Could it be I am just using an outdated version of Memu?

Why does Robinhood want me to send a picture of a photo ID? Is this safe? I don't want to be hacked.

>>10473658
its called KYC dumbass

>>10473604
Fugg she was so hot
>>10473014
>>10473056
Pic related is Tesla and Grimes together. I want Tesla to succeed now that everyone hates them

>>10473789
so comf, you gonna drop the grimes pegging elon vid or wat? you keep hinting at it. it might be the one thing that can save TSLA at this point

>>10473849
Sorry I gotta keep it in my personal collection.
I've got a few videos that have been scrubbed from every porn site in existence, just having them for posterity is a great feeling.
That video is one of them

Why haven't you bought Ferrari (RACE) yet anon?
-great growth potential
-chad investment
-stable debt situation
-Past management has always delivered great gains
Buy RACE today!

>>10473006

>>10473974
I unironically do this with stocktwits

>>10473494
>10 shares

>>10473974
Explain yourself.

What valuation does this app have?

>>10473987
stocktwits is like RH, a place designed by big money so they can short the rubes and plebs

There is always positive EV going against the opinions of both

>>10474018
>sexting
>bitmojis
>great chat app
I fully endorse SNAP, I give it an A+ buy rating

>>10474018
none but its all about future guidance and growth is snapchat growing in users? i have no idea im asking

>>10473710
No, KYS yourself!

Heres a great site called tip ranks, where they track different analysts preformance over time to see who is actually worth listening to

These are the top 25, pretty interesting desu
https://www.tipranks.com/analysts/top

I wish we had these for tripfags

>>10474036
That is a good point. I always saw the value of Snapchat of basically being a direct pipeline for propaganda into the hands of young people/data mining app. The nudes and chat aspect is to keep you distracted while cosmo tells 13 year old girls how to have anal.

>>10474071
registering tripranks.com rn

thoughts on sony?

Something happened while I was away arguing with a socialist...

>>10473508
>Sounds like something Axe Capital would do.
I've heard about Billions. Is it actually any good?

>>10473604
What did I miss?

>>10473789
JFC. Grimes does look like his 12 year old horse-girl daughter.

took a roadtrip to Cape Cod for the week
I'm back and ready for Monday.
but i am closing dish tonight.

>>10473945
past management died the other week. But yeah RACE looking good.

only 3 more hours until futures and this hell will be over

>>10473029
I like the Soviet PP

>>10474153
I like it. Lots of machinations, plays and counterplays if you like that kind of thing.
One of the main characters is a literal cuck which is annoying, but they arent focusing too much on it.

Bloomberg TV has been on at my house the entire time. You know, watching purely economic news and tuning out the infotainment sure changes how the world gets seen...

I recently got a contract job which has a shitty 401k policy; no matching, no nothing. I decided to opt out of the 401k, but I'm not exactly sure what to do. I kind of want to open a ROTH IRA, but if I do I'm only going to put $10k in it, to use it for the first house purpose.

Should I just invest the rest into my long term stock account? It's filled mainly with mutual funds and stuff. I was thinking I could basically replicate my previous 401k in my main account and use that.

Note that I expect to die before 40. Either by suicide or health. Not looking for memes either, I already have a meme trading account.

>>10474318
you fucked up then m8
financial news is the original fake news

>>10474413
Hey if you want to stay abreast of what's going on you gotta use news sources to discover New products, services, or management changes.

How else do you think you're gonna be able to play the stock market and get a good gain?

>>10474442
once the financial news corps publish the story you're already weeks too late

>>10474442
this >>10474451

you gotta do it yourself
though ive done alright shorting cramers picks before

>>10474363
what's wrong with your health anon?

>>10474529
I just don't really care about living past the age of 40.

>>10474490
>>10474451
Any good sources? Leads for me are always nice.

could this be the bottom for sears

>>10474876
I think that Sears is going to kick the bucket here pretty soon desu
The bottom is zero

>>10474876

Sears is dunzo

>>10474592
The true key to happiness, in my opinion, is farming wives.
Step 1) Begin dating an 18 year old
Step 2) Marry and immediately impregnate at 20
Step 3) Stop having children with that wife at 28
Step 4) Divorce or set aside that wife and begin Step 1 with a new woman
It's in my blood, but I hope I can achieve that life soon

>>10475536
>3dpd
Im disappointed, but not surprised

>>10474876
Did it finally hit 0?

>>10475592
Christchan told me it was for the best because she cannot bare my children

>>10475633
>it's bear not bare
>american education everyone

Possible plays for this week:
KLAC 115 Call 9/21
PG 79 Put 9/07
P 7.5 Put 9/07

>>10475692
>pg put
TRAITOR

>>10474592
WHY ARE THE TRUCKS BACKWARDS

>>10475749
They arent though :3

>>10475779
Yeah I am retarded
But do you kickflip though ?
I have been trying for months and still can't land it
Fuck this gay earth

>>10475795
as a matter of fact, I have kickflips on lock
I stopped years ago, but I could still do it probably. I skated since early childhood

someone decipher this BULL OR BEAR SIGNAL

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1023674091142701056

Nasdaq and Fangs probably keep bumping on the road coming weeks :)

Elon also liked a reply from an anime poster asking about genetically engineered catgirls.

https://twitter.com/nichegamer/status/1023652369308045312

please help me decipher this madman.

>>10475711
I-is PG debt okay??

>>10475842
every trick is difficult until you figure it out
I have been practicing nearly every day and ruined countless pairs of shoes
Fucking kickflips how do they work ???

>>10475902
>>10475711
I see Kimberly Clark gaining on them and a lot of insider trading pointing towards a disappointing earnings. They could be at their bottom already though. I think the safest one is the KLAC call desu

>>10473452
I already do its over saturated. I only get like 60 a week and time is money cause I push mow and shit. Can't go over 20 cause people here won't pay it.
>>10473465
I don't wanna do that kind of stuff anymore. Also rich people buy that more than homeless. Homeless like morphine and kolonopin
Why reply when your shit posts are as useless as your advice.

>>10475972
Make fortnite/zoomer/kid game theme pinattas

>>10475983
People here hate Mexicans though. It is a creative idea atleast. I've sold bootleg gamer merch though never made much money. Made more selling rom sets.

>>10475912
I dont know, you just can do it one day... and then btfo all your friends in s.k.a.t.e

>>10475967
kmb is good but doesnt have a robust profile like pg
The thing Im most worried about is Walmart because they sell all these products for cheaper

>>10475972

>>10474091
Long run? They will be fine.

>>10476083
Well yeah that's why I'm here on /biz/ they said people like me were here :)
U like anime and skate video games fun 2.

>>10476138
Take your medications please

I hope the big announcement about two companies is coming tuesday/wednesday and not monday

>>10476045
whenever id start to get behind in skate id always pull out muh no comply tricks. i remember a kid tried to fight me over it once

>>10476316
kek yeah I always pulled a shitty Ollie North

>>10475912
>how do kickflips work
>he can't even half cab hospital flip
>he doesn't bone his frontside flips
>he can't even get the rotation for a hardflip
>forward flips result in maxing out the credit card
>gets speed wobbles and dies

>>10476398
ollie norths are fly as fuck tho if you do em right

also
is the skateboard magazine/team "lowcard" a big deal in the sk8r world now? im kinda outta touch w all this shit these days

>>10476422
>this nigga cant even kickflip a bike
baka senpai

Finna go big on $PVTL yeehaaaw

>>10475692
I've begun tracking tripfriends
Good luck

>>10476433
vans is doing beastmode. i would know, i work for them. tho i wouldn't buy up their stock.

>>10476470

>>10476475
What's your time frame on it so I can track the result? :))))))))

>>10476506
well thats gonz for ya
guy was the first to do handrail decades ago, now hes gonna be the first to kickflip a bike at like age 55

no matter what you do, you will never have as much fun as this man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gizM-PuVnY0

>>10476505
3-5 yrs

Thoughts on the grain markets this week? Take the gains or let it ride? With the rain looks like everyone might get screwed.

Also, don't miss the boat! DRUS! DRUS! DRUS!

>>10473568
>but what's your reasoning for making it?
uhhhhh

>>10476488
Do me for AAV ! long !!!
actually just do all me call, they all perfect

>>10475536
You’ll have to pay child support for all those kids. You’ll be broke as fuck after the first two.

>>10476488
here me best one so far
GoPro!

Was right on the money
everyone laughed @ me but this was perfect! check the date!!!

>>10477063
>>10477111
Why don't your IDs match your previous posts?
Regardless, you've been entered into the spreadsheet

>>10477156
Yessss!
Am dont know me computer gay

>>10477127
This only happens once you've established your royal house with a sovereign wealth fund on a large, secluded ranch

>>10477127
sue for custody, duh, don't leave your son with some thot

men win 70% of contested custody cases, don't let them propagandize you into giving up without a fight

Do we have a countdown for when the Japanese stocks open?
Also my birbs are on my shoulder digging through my hair for treats.
Send help

>>10476488
I'm deciding between the three or doing nothing I'll update you on what I choose on Monday

>>10477469
It's too late, it's in the books!!
NOTHING CAN SAVE YOU NOW

>>10477142
I remember I bet against you and lost a whole bunch of money

>>10477485
Tesla $450 calls eoweek

>>10477510
Recorded, good luck anon, I'm sure those will work out

>>10477549
put them down.

Reason is 1+1=2 put that down in the notes. 1+1=2.

$450 tesla calls ending this week, 1+1=2

>>10477562

>>10477390
The Tokyo Stock Exchange opens at 9am local time. That's about 23 minutes from now.

>>10477142
I told you it'd go to fucking 5 dollars; and still no buyout in sight
I'm glad you traded and didn't invest though, glad your honing your shit

>>10477549
SND 5 contracts exp. 8/17, strike 5
SND 30 contracts same date at strike 7.5
let the bog overlords know my positions; they already watch my robinhood portfolio so why not double down
I'm right anyways

>>10473621
There are no options on Robinhood web, just Robinhood mobile

>>10472969
Anyone else long with me on IQ or am I alone here? Waiting to get gobbled up by the Chink Devils.

>>10473014
>Those typos
>Those caps
I'm short TSLA but this is so fucking fake or written by someone very unprofessional.

>>10477650
I don't believe you, that is incredibly retarded

>>10477653
I am but I only own 7 shares and not 4500 kek. I need to average down and I was thinking I will if it hits 31 again tomorrow.

>>10477791
Averaging down has become very hard in my case.

>>10476488
Requesting boomer stocks tracked.
Add SJM, OMC, LB, WBA.
Looking to open position SJM and OMC sometime this year. WBA too if it dip again but unlikely. Waiting until next earning's guidance to open position in LB if outlook is stable.
Look to hold all until they get overbought and P/E ratios go above 20-25ish

>>10477814
Do you file your own taxes or are you a brainlet? I'm having a good laugh imagining a person file for you. The best part is that you said you worked in some field of financing as well.

>>10477814
What's your average in? You didn't buy above $32, r-right??
>>10477861
I'm on it

Looking around for some meme stocks and there's nothing good out there.

>>10474071
damn another paywall site tho

>>10477972
I do most of them alone cause I write off gas, tollways, computer, clothes, food, pretty much everything. Those things are all "technically" involved with my work.

>>10478049
Its like 35, I always time the middle of ranges, like always. Based on that alone I bet it goes to 40-41 max near time.

AMD is the future

>>10474363
IRA has a $6k yearly limit

New week, new tricks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzKFuZlxtEE

How the FUCK do I play earnings this week?

Tesla puts?
Apple calls?

remember what trump said today
I will see you in 9 hours

>>10478416

>>10478386
Chloe honestly looks like a barely passable trap

>>10478138
DRUS will get you were you want to go

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2018-tesla-tracker/

is it beginning? Did elon get the call? Is it time for the big announcement?

>>10478534
Tracker isnt worth anything anymore. It's being gamed.

>>10478504
Cant trade it because the jews over at Robinhood won't let me.

why does GOOG have a lower market cap than AAPL?

>>10477653
I first heard about IQ here, probably from your shilling.

I bought at $38, went into my office talking shit the next day as it soared to $41 or $42 briefly. "Have you heard about the new Chinese moon mission?" I said. "They say it's the netflix of China" I said. Then the next day, I got Trumped - the announcement of the chinese tariffs. Eventually an early day dip triggered my $30 stop loss with my brokerage somehow managing to execute the order at $29.10.

Lost $3118.02 , -26% in 3 weeks.

Thanks /smg/

>>10478708
fuck off

>>10472969
Isn’t the stock market rigged by boomers?

>>10478593
Every fucking thing around TSLA is being gamed from shorts to longs. Till wednesday it's going to be wind blowing that moves the price.

>>10478708
>>10478708
Accept responsibility for your own retardation, zoomer
With that attitude you deserve to lose money

futures and Asia no look 2 good
me thinking red week

>>10478484

>>10477615
>>10477549
>>10477485
comf i got some

lets see how these work (tho i prolly wont hold em all week since im leaving thursday morning). gold is a long term one tho

>short oil (DWT)
>short gold (longterm deep OTM puts)
>short HYG (medium term ITM puts)
>long VIX (short term deep OTM calls)

all long options

>>10479147
oh and puts on turkey
>TUR

>>10478708
You bought into a recent IPO while it was 90% overbought and now you're complaining that you lost money?

>>10478637
AAPL makes a lot of profit.

>>10478708
>Why does everyone keep saying DD, is that like XDD?

>>10479178
i fucking hate complainers
ive lost FAR more than that, in even shorter amounts of time, and i would NEVER think to bitch out anyone but myself

>>10478757
>>10479050
I was attempting to humorously describe my experience in response to the question asked.

Of course I accept responsibilty for my actions and my losses on IQ are balanced out by gains on other things. I'm fine.

I should have known there is no room for humor here.

>>10479120
DIE BEARS DIE

>>10478708
Why didn't you have a stop loss?

>>10479200
to be fair we get about a hundred or so posts a day like that across the threads when markets open. its neither humorous nor entertaining nor anything else anymore. 99% of them are dead serious as far as i can tell. people honestly ask us why/how they lost money in the stock market. because the stock markets ez (of course) and for boomers, and everything goes up, so why did it go down when i wanted it to go up?

Yello

>>10477653
I'm in deep with you mein comf, but the number of r*ddit tier normies that think they're going to get rich off of this has me nervous

>>10478504
Keep an eye on ICLD aswell.. if you get in keep a tight stop though

>>10479309
the fact that reddit has a presence in the stock market makes me wanna pull out literally everything i have

>>10479309
I'm looking to bail in the 40s till lockup period is resolved. This week I doubt it beats 38 even on good news though. Try and set stop losses once its around 36. You never know what chinks will do.

>>10479254
"A stop loss that was reasonable"
I typically set stop losses around a limit where I can leave with profits.

>>10479120

>>10479120
apple earnings will make it green

>>10474363
Buy a tax sheltered etf and stop loss it

>>10479457
youre prolly gonna just have to fucking take it this week desu senpai

on the bright side, literally all the sectors youve been shilling looked fine on friday

>>10477653
long? no wtf, I'll sell that shit tomorrow if it goes up. IQ ====> FB is the move

>>10479558
I was green everyday last week
consumer and bank = #1 port
follow the buffet

>>10479608
>follow buffet
bac and appl spent half the week in the red

>>10479621
Apple was Barely red and BAC just rose a ton to get to 31....

>>10479635
BAC did that move the week before. I own both.

>>10479621
regardless, the sectors themselves are standing out to me rn looking at this heatmap. i have no doubt that those will catch up

tho this pretty much confirms we REAL l8 bull market desu

>>10479642
I dont understand the argument here

Trying to buy call options for Att and Ford, any advice for a new options fag?
Been watching videos about options for about 3 days now.
Learned alot but dont feel confident at all haha.

>>10479647
yeah I'm still bullish on the two don't get me wrong. Question, >>10479647 >>10479635 out of the two which are you more bullish on from now to 2019? I'd say BAC but it's close

>buy into a few index funds
>hold for years and reinvest any profits into buying more units
who here /long-term/?

>>10479671
$F is dead

>>10479678
thats what they said about GM not to long ago kek

>>10479660
nvrm

WHERE THE FUCK IS THE CAPCOM INTERIM REPORT HOLY FUCK
I should really sell

>>10479677
i do both, cap IRA for the year, get 401k match, fuck dollar cost average a certain amount, keep a little to fuck around with in the speculation game.
That 6% avg return is pretty spot on.

>>10479676
Banks will continue the bullrun with BAC and JPM in the lead
Consumers will suffer the opposite effects from bonds but the companies are increasing yields so Im not too worried

>>10479718

>>10479676
im not bullish at all on the maret rn, so i think the more boomer the consumers, the better, at this point. now is time to play defensively imo

BAC is so far down, but so are a bunch of the consumers and industrials. its hard to say. im gonna have to boomerize my port before i go out of town on thursday till next monday tho, so ill probably get some more MMM, some more GIS, some JNJ, shit like that. ive never been one to trust/trade large banks (dont trust em, nor do i have any faith they know how to make any money anymore now that they got nerfed), but i suppose thats just me being superstitious desu

>>10479545
Do you have any examples? I just read the investopedia about what a tax sheltered thingamabob is, but I'm not sure what I should be looking for.

>>10479688
>GM
five years ago it was 37

>>10479718
i think you were right the first time (couple weeks ago i think) actually when you were saying consumers are the NEW bonds. bonds look like shit, the safe ones still have ballz for yields, i ant see why anyone would buy too much other than for a ladder

>>10479761
etfdb.com is gonna be ur fren
also this shit
https://finviz.com/map.ashx?t=etf&st=w1

>>10479671
Read up on momentum trading. Specifically, know how to use indicators like MFI/RSI to recognize overbought and oversold stocks.

I'm reading a random walk down wall street right now, and this show is mind blowing.
Everyone ITT needs to read it!!

>>10479856
it is really good
thats why i put it up there in the pdf thread

>>10479806
Thanks a bunch dude, got some reading to do

>>10479886
Yeah I should have listened to you earlier and read it, it's great

>>10479856
does this book give you the best salami sandwich shop of the neighborhood ?

>>10479790
bond starting yields are attractive, but make no sense as most income ibnvestors are long term

Youy can see here that even though tyson has half the starting yield as a bond, its going to be 5-6% in a few years + capital appreciation
if more foods keep rapidly increasing, sbux might not be needed in the portfolio

>>10479900
add position
Long KHC
notes: rat

This wait for the Capcom report is killing me.
Stock went from 0 to -2% to -0.5% in less than an hour. I bet many people feel the same as me.

>>10479900
its funny, the last time i read that, i went down to NYC and had a show. ended up physically doing the random walk down wall st

>>10479945
yeah theres just almost no case for bonds rn unless youre short time and trying to hedge some against the market (and they crashed WITH the market last week, so idk)

>>10479945
i dunno about you, but i think for the rest of the year, unless things start looking up again, im gonna hold onto some DTUS. the two year is headed down fucking FAST (for bills that is). hedge that with some TLT, should be an easy, hedged little curve flattening trade. other than that, i cant think of anything to do w treasuries thats even worth the time or money desu

tho if things clear up im getting back on CWB
you ever trade those ones? convertibles ETF. fastest moving bond fund ive found

>>10479768
and today its worth roughly the same, it did not die.

>>10479850
>RSI
Ford oversold like a mofo right now
>att
att might not grow as much as people like but it is not going anywhere anytime soon.

>>10480132
Look up USA aka liberty all star fund
From what Im seeing it is
-better than sp500
-has a 10% yield according to dividend website (monthly payout)
-is non municiple so untaxed

am I crazy or is this true?

>>10480054
Right now my """bond""" stocks are VZ, T and CBRL. Working on buying CBRL right now

>>10480166
It's a closed end fund, and all I know about closed end is they are bad.

>>10480142
but w inflation adjusted, its certainly worth less than it was. theres better, safer stocks to hold rn senpai. american autos look terrible

>>10480166
cost/yield looks a lot better for my small penis port
and while its hard to say its been outperforming the S&P, it certainly looks like its ABOUT to. the last major time it outperformed was during the run-up to the dotcom bubble

>>10480180
there will be a time to buy bonds, but t probably wont be till we get through these next 2 rate hikes imo
theyre still useful as a hedge tho. treasuries especially as they tend to inverse the market

I found a stock that's going to double in the next 6 months

>>10480166
forgot pic

>>10480233
who like tesla? lmao
this is just a bet that ford will go up a bit due to being panic oversold

>>10480180
my favorite dividend cucktuber just made a video dissing T :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY24L1HuAF4
lets watch

>>10479856
>>10479886
Are you guys reading the seventh version or there is a eighth?

>>10480251
im of the camp that thinks damn near everything is about to get panic sold (again), so imma wait a bit

as for TSLA, ive been FUDing those fags so hard for months because ive been watching corporate bonds. i dont feel like this ER will be good for them, but the short float is too high for me to get involved

>>10480283
Kek I'm reading the 11th edition

>>10480324
What the fuck, got a link?

>>10480283
dunno
i have the seventh i think, from 2003
you need it?
go to pic related, find the pdf thread and click the paperclip and download whatever you need

Thinking about buying some TSLA puts at open tomorrow morning, around 280$

What does /smg/ think?

>>10480335
amazon.com

>>10480293
I wonder how the market will react to midterms coming up.
Theyre almost here!
Last election was crazy

>>10480353
Truly can't crash soon enough

>>10480340
If I had to bet if tsla was going up or down, id bet down in the short term.
(((They))) dont want musk to succeed

>>10480340
i think its a gamble and i hope ya dont get squeezed desu

if im shorting tech, im gonna be less specific and just go for the Qs. maybe specific tech sectors

>>10480361
historically speaking, it should be bullish af
given the current circumstances and how desperate and broke the dems are tho, it wouldnt surprise me if they throw a spanner in the works to try and attack trump/repub voter confidence

of course its not like /pol/s fantasy land where the elders of zion are all sitting around pulling levers to bog us all. wall st seems to like trump in general, so theres only so much dem cronies can do desu

Anyone whose familiar with options care to clarify some confusion i have?
I get that the contracts have explorations and that if the stock price is below the strike price on a put, you lose everything.
But they keep implying that the value of the contract also loses money towards the end of the date. How exactly does that matter when all im concerned is being above the strike price?

>>10480370
lol
(((they))) have sunk a shitton of money into his company. both personally and through govt grants. i assure you they dont want TSLA to fail. any bearishness is due to elons continued incompetence, and general market sentiment drying up

>>10480409
explorations
>expirations**
damn auto correct

stop selling your nasdaq shares

>>10480413
so who the hell shorting tesla then?
its jew vs jew up in here

>>10480431
>so who the hell shorting tesla then?
Me.

>>10480409
dude, literally watch the video in the OP. You have have a lot of things wrong/backwards and I don't even feel right giving you an answer because you may act on it thinking you have all the information you need when you obviously don't.

>>10480452
I started watching OPs video and after 20 minutes of some dude blabbering about the history of options i couldnt take it.
when does it get good?
ive been watching option alpha videos all day and some.

>>10480413
(((They)) have already started dumping. Fidelity went from 21mil shares to 14mil shares over the last year. T Rowe price dumped even a larger percentage of their position.

>>10480409
because theta eats away at your gains exponentially (or rather, inversely logarithmic). the last month of a contracts expiry can eat so much of your time premium that you dont make any money even if it lands ITM at expiry

my favorite way to dodge this is to buy ITM contracts.

>>10480431
>its jew vs jew up in here
no shit
dont listen to /pol/ too much m8. this is the market. its jews vs jews vs goys vs goys in a massive redistribution of wealth every single day

/pol/s biggest mistake is thinking all jews are subconsciously/tribally (or whatever) linked to work towards a common goal. couldnt be further from the truth

>>10480481
ok so lets say i pick a 30 day option contract
ideally when do i want to take profits?
asap?
first week, second week?
thats what im trying to get

I was Twitter today and something interesting popped up on my timeline.

Apparently a lot of African Americans (hood types) are opening Robinhood accounts (getting one is laughably easy) and flaunting screencaps on social media of their stock purchases in Apple and Nike and regurgitating phrases like "we getting this money nigga" and "black wallstreet lets get it".

Is this the shoe-boy moment? Is this the canary in the coalmine?

I'm seriously considering pulling out of the market after seeing that. Or at least I'm starting to consider entering a positions in stocks that will perform well during a flash correction or recession.

>>10480481
>couldnt be further from the truth
How would you know. Are you by any chance saying you're a longnose?

>>10480514
>be me
>searching for videos on options for robinhood on jewtube
>videos of nig nogs teaching how to make money on robin hood.
this is why we cant have nice things and yes you are right i think

>>10480517
Don't be antisemitic, but really the only thing that a jew hates more than an Arab is a jew

>>10480514
Absolutely 100%

Every train has a final stop.

I knew it was time to liquidate crypto last year when our blockchain meetup grew from 4 nerds to 30 dumbasses asking how to get rich. A 70 year old woman with a legal pad asked me how to buy Iota. I sold everything that night. Shit crashed about 4 days later.

>>10480514
delete this your are lying

Damn, either shorting game stop or buying long puts on it seems like a sure fire bet.
>short float 46%
RIP.
got a lok p/b tho kek

>Breaking news, Denver Hospital might have ebola.
What stocks make drugs for that ?
$$$$$ opportunity

Buy SQQQ

>>10480469
lol you know whos holding a SHITTON of TSLA bonds? fucking soros. hes holding it up for (((them))).

i think if you stick around for a while youll come to realize soros is a fucking hedgie who goes around and has a thing for breaking currencies. hes not necessarily some sort of sith lord like everyone wants him to be. just a merciless hedgie playing around w some of the rothschilds leftover allowance

either way, the reason TSLA is crashing is because longterm investors see their bonds, they see rates rising, and they see that elon is gonna have a hell of a time trying to issue more bonds (which is the only thing keeping em running). this is similarly why i think the whole market is about t shit the bed. the average consumer went wild for the free infinite money glitch after 2008, but corporations made everyone elses borrowing habits look tame by comparison. there will be a lot of other hi debt companies who will probably get credit downgrades after a few more hikes desu. i think THATS whats gonna bring this shit down

>>10480513
try 3-4x as long as you plan to be in the trade. so 1 week - 1 month contract. 1 month - quarterly contract etc...

>>10480517
no m8 (and im usually pretty vocal about my hatred for the israeli govt/bibis cabal), im just not retarded enough to try and trade off of /pol/s idea of what the market/world is. dont get me wrong, those news junkies are a valuable resource as a news aggregate, especially concerning the mid east (very nice as i trade oil). but their whole idea of how finance works and all this shit, is so fucking retarded i literally couldnt even start to unwind all the bullshit youre gonna have to unlearn. read books nigger

Nikkei is trending low tonight.

>>10480583
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>>10480514
I actually want to see pictures of this.
Complete with mumblejive
Not gonna lie, watching complete imbeciles throw away all 5 cents of their spare money is kind of amusing

>>10480625
>>10480583
>>10480514
kek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moGbKKl3Evc
>WE WUZ HEDGE FUND MANAGERS

>>10480625
UVXY BBY

>>10480648
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vv3AxJNsuyM

>>10480514
I'd say the opposite, the amount of money they'll owe robinhood after they buy options on margin might really bolster the company. Maybe they'll finally get around to letting me buy spreads.

Damn I'm glad I didn't buy UNIT at 19, 20, or 21 like you all told me to. Never listen to /biz/

>>10480648
>you're going to need the robinhood app and an app called pennystocks
>app called pennystocks

Yeah I'm getting out of the market.

>>10480555
Can't be antisemitic when your partner is from Israel, just like in my case. Truth be told, even normal israeli people joke about them being jews. It's the penguins (orthodox jews) that get crazy and angry at anything and everything.

>>10480514
this is no joke m8

this is the time to sell everything
i wasnt trading crypto during the bullrun, but as soon as i heard black kids in the line at 711 talking about DAT BITCOIN AN SHIEET i knew it was over. i think it was about a week or two later when it started crashing

>>10480672
Now to be fair, I haven't really used robinhood yet so explain that to me. You buy options on Margin?
Seriously?
Oh my god.

>>10480698
>married a jew
keep your friends close but your enemies closer, eh?

>>10480648
NOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>10480732
The nose knows.

>>10480728
Yeah they let you use margin if you pay a 9.99 fee every month (I don't) and they approved me to trade options after a month of trading with 200 dollars in my account. It's such a beginners trap its insane.

>>10480688
>20-21
thats when i sold m8
besides, your missing the point about hi div REITs. they always wipe out. the point is compounding fuck huge divs

>>10480739
ill be expecting a formal written apology
it is officially fucking over
bears win

>>10480648
Once 100 people download it and you get up to 100 stocks, then you get 500 dollars

Jesus christ this guy is poor

>>10480767
I mean...
I ain't touching options till I'm certain I know damn well what I'm doing. I ain't gonna lie. As a beginner I play it safe and don't fuck around until I know precisely what I'm doing and how.
These people are gonna try option trading and dig themselves into a hole....

My god...

>>10480791
his portfolio
>footlocker
>tyson farms
>watermelon contracts
>Fubu
>nike
>walmart
>africa etfs

>>10480814
We should put out word on "Black wall street" as they call it, to buy HMNY stocks :^)

>>10480778
Stocks are the new EBT and food stocks will offer dividends to act as food stamps, screenshot

>>10480853
I mean, unless if they know what they're doing, they'll never profit.

>>10480849
Now this is a great idea

>>10480648
>literally the end of the bull market
>we wuz pennystock daytraders an shieet
>use yahoo finance charts
>use a free phone app to screen for shitstock penny plays off of FUCKING VOLUME (lol) w NO REGARDS TO PRICE OR ANYTHING ELSE
>FOMO into the biggest gainers for the day

>>10480853
lol
now THIS is cope

>>10480874
they are gonna do RH gold, someone is gonna show them options, and then thats it. youll almost be able to hear the sound of HUNDREDS of dollars getting sucked out of every single one of these poor bastards accounts at the same time

>>10480849
>>10480900
now were thinking
we just found lower hanging fruit than us OR reddit, boyos
we large banks nao

>>10480925
>>10480900
So the plan is, we wait until HMNY gets delisted due to the stocks being stupid low. That way we can buy hundreds of thousands of shares for like 2 cents a share, then we put out word about HMNY and how it's going to be huge.
They then all invest and then we dump our shares.
Yes.
We are pumping and dumping and destroying a company as well as literally thousands of nigs accounts for the lulz

>https://www.marketwatch.com/story/polar-bear-killed-after-attacking-cruise-ship-guard-spurring-outrage-2018-07-29
A sign of things to come.
How to long cruise ships?

>>10480961
this is for more than just teh lulz
this is for teh profit

>How to long cruise ships?
pic related

>>10477653
no riding the BILI bus but I wish you the best.

>>10480961
literally laughing out loud

The idea is so evil you could say it's....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF8b3dohxjo

>>10481011
>>10480961
>>10480925
The shilling has begun, m'lord.

>>10481094
fuck forgot pic

>>10481094
Holy shit. We were supposed to wait until it got delisted. That's tomorrow around 4pm!

personally im just glad my bearish predictions have finally been completely 100% verified. now i can proceed forth w out an ounce of fear. there will be a correction, then one more bulltrap, and then thats it. probably by next year. they need to get tyrone and all his friends to shill each other into putting everything they have in first

someone had to hold the bags
we can now take comfort in the fact that we are no longer the lowest hanging fruit

>>10481094
you cant shill black twitter w fucking animu pics as your avatar

also
spell mor lyk dis an shieet

>>10481112
bearfags were talking heavy shit when the nasdaq was below 7k
unless it goes down there again Bulls Won

>The night Comfy accidentally saved HMNY before it got delisted.

>>10481105
go make a new sockpuppet account
make your avatar something relateable

google "black dude w dat munny" or some shit
>ex
>pic related

>>10481131
kek
im just mesin w ya
but it fucking will. ive never been so certain of anything in my entire life
just give tyrone time to shill all his friends into it first

>>10481120
Is this better?

>>10480961
Count me in.
Someone make a fake podcast in niggerspeak with some low-res black dude in the video looping over and over. I'm sure they'll think it's that guy who's talking.
Heck we could even use that one bronigga who used to post videos in a business suit on /v/

>>10481166
Maybe wait until Monday the 30th at 4pm EDT to start shilling it.

>>10481166
no you tard
anime is racis an shieet

no ones gonna listen to you
you need to be black to shill black twitter
>t. professional amateur social engineer

So AIDS is starting to become a big thing again.. MYL just released an at home HIV test in ireland.. OSUR has an at home HIV test in the U.S.

Does anyone else have HIV related investments? I really think HIV is going to be blowing up here soon like it's back in the 80s

>>10481175
This guy

>>10481183
niggers love Dragon ball and Yugioh

>>10481215
Don't forget Naruto and Tokyo Ghoul

>>10481187
i like tyrone
he seems like a good guy w a sense of humor

>>10481131
to further flesh out my point:
most retail is starting to get sketched out by the soc media memes, and big name tech memes.
big money has had to wait for ERs again to have any bids to dump shares into. they know they need out of these companies, and soon. so they need greater fools to dump into. and as many of them as possible. cue RH. then cue RH for black wallstreet where "errybody eats" (LOLOLOL). yo we gon buy dat NFLX dat FB dat SNAP dat NIKE an shit

its too perfect. literally the shoeshine quote irl

>>10481215
he literally has "chan" in his username. they arent retarded

>>10481186
JNJ got approved for a new drug like last week
should be good for the incoming recession too

>>10480596
REGN

>>10481253
ok but then what social media site will people be using? Kids and others arent protesting snap and facebook
theres no alternatives

>>10481291
4chan

>>10481253
>JNJ got approved for a new drug like last week
thanks

>>10481112
is the niggers playing stocks your final bearish indicator ?

>>10481291
this is capitalism
the moment theres an opening (which there hasnt been due to monopoly strangleholds) someone will sneak in. theres probably hundreds of dudes just WAITING to get a startup goin. they just need a place to exist first

besides, im not saying literally eveything going tits up. im saying these big tech memes that big money accidentally cornered themselves into are just gonna dump hard on all of the new meats heads

if anything SNAP has the least downside lol
if FB falters in a big way, it could shake things up a bit in the social media world

>>10481330
not mine
ted kennedys
https://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/when_even_shoeshine_boys_are_giving_you_stock_tips_its_time_to_sell_joseph
called 1929

>>10481186
GILD
GSK

Thing is, we are seeing an oversaturation and the sudden loss of steam on the tech market. But then, when the companies in question run out of room to expand, a contraction will always happen. I'm just glad it's not a self reinforcing collapse that would affect the banks. This is more like the dot com burst of 2000

>>10481351
what do they got? i noticed GILD has Daraprim lol

If I buy 2 Snapchat 12.50 puts for 100 dollars each and the stock price drops to let's say 9 dollars, what's my potential profit for selling the puts?

>>10481342
is that so
But no other company has come in yet so
Long FB

>>10481437
whats expiration are you looking at? and what are you talking about 100 each? you mean $1?

>>10481400
that one was brutal

personally i think this is going to be closer to the credit crisis was for europe (as it has everything to do w credit). this might hurt banks a little, but large banks arent nearly as leveragd as they were. they passed those bags to the smaller banks. we WILL see a massive collapse of all different types of debt tho. its like i was saying, FED is tightening because even THEY know we cant keep doing what we were doing. they tighten up at a time when the economy is doing ok, it might not be that bad

either way i dont think the fireworks REALLY start until euro banks jump. and that could be years from now

>>10481437
dont trade options yet m8, you dont understand them
but use this
http://optioncreator.com

>>10481443
idk i think if anything you were right the first time w SNAP

>>10481456

>>10481456
>>10481437
If you are looking at the Aug 10 12.50 strike with a $1.00 premium i'm showing 2,300 max profit.. 200 max loss if you buy 2 put contracts

>>10481458
Snap doesnt know how to run a stock
Snap, Tesla, and Netflix are small specs favorite targets to short, so these are the best thing to long on dips

>>10481477
if you are looking to buy one contract you are looking at a mass loss of $100 and max profit of $1150

>>10481443
either way, im not trying to be the one whos head gets dumped on
im gonna do the exact same shit i was planning
short hi yield bond ETFs into nothing

see ive been looking into it. its very intradasting.
the way those hi yield funds work, banks arent allowed to MM on them after dodd-frank. so its hedgies and sharks like that MMing on them. but they arent required to do SHIT if they dont want to, and they have obligations to protect THEIR assets. there arent gonna be any fucking bids when it starts crashing. they might even move faster than stocks on the way down lol

LEAPS puts are gonna be worth their weight in gold when this is all over
ive been waiting for a while. the time is now

>>10481500
Im considering putting my last 400 in the game for it.

Ive got a baby on the way and just got laid off. If I make a couple thousand it'll buy me some time.

Am I better off buying 4 of the 12.50 or more of say 10 dollar puts?

>>10481530
lol
yea you definitely shouldnt do this imo m8
you dont know what youre doing yet
options are pretty fucking wild
if you do it, just assume that 400 dollars is completely fucking gone

>>10481530
I have no clue where it's going, its earnings soon for SNAP.. maybe a straddle? I think that buying either puts or calls on SNAP right before earnings is a risky move. If you are really bearish on it why not do a spread? I was actually thinking of buying Calls the day before earnings just because it's that type of stock that will catch everyone off guard.. but idk.. i dont use snap so idk how many adds they got going on there

>>10481458
In the simplest way possible, while this will be bad for credit, whenever this downturn DOES happen (It's inevitable) it won't be like the 2008 mess. And we are happily spared the potential hyperinflation of the Venezuelan crisis.
That is, of course, assuming that our farmers and major food production companies haven't leveraged too much debt against their food supplies.

I was reading I think on WSJ the other day that we have 12.5 billion dollars worth of surplus meat but nobody to sell them to. Which is a good thing IMO. It means that we are heavy on the supply at the moment.

2008 was bad enough that, even though I was insulated by being in the army, I was considering the emergency Run to the hills and hide in the shack I have on public land that's only illegal if found option.

We came close.

>>10481530
read>>10481543
he's right.. its actually extremely risky to gamble with options especially with an earnings like SNAP.

Snapchat fucking sucks.

Most of my friends have moved from snapchat because the ads are just too much. If twitter and Facebook crashed, snapchat will

I'm gonna go full bull

I want to get off this rollercoaster.
Send help.
The interim report hasn't even hit yet.

Also whoever makes the new thread, I need you to please update Degiro and Interactive Brokers with something like

>Degiro (quick account creation, 2nd best transaction fees for Yuropeans)
>IB (Anal account creation needs lots of info and takes a while, cheapest fees for Yuros)

Griiiiiiiiiiiiiiimm

>>10481550
>I was actually thinking of buying Calls
if i gambled on ERs anymore, id do this for sure

>>10481554
we honestly cant compare this to any of the other crashes. i have no idea if its gonna be better or worse, but i know it wont be anything like the 08 one.

you see, endless summer of QE created such an unnatural sterile environment for the market, we can hardly even call this a market cycle anymore. we saw this in the record lows on the VIX, and then it just stayed there forever. so what moves the market? big money coming in. and i mean BIG money, the kind that buys million dollar lots of bonds. the yields got toasted by QE, and then they STAYED that way. so the big money went into the last stand for a good RoI: equities. an then they got addicted to it

then all of a sudden this february, something changed. well... what changed this year? the FED chair.

and whats happened since the FED stepped off the laughing gas? weve noticed how over-leveraged everything is.

we dont have market cycles in the traditional sense anymore. we have an unrealistically long, artificially driven credit cycles. and the entirety of fixed income looks fucking FUCKED rn, so we can see that this cycle is coming to an end

the end
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5l4OEJ38aLY

>>10481253
i knew no commissions was too good to be true.
its like giving credit cards to people with no idea what credit is

>>10481764
even worse, im VERY worried about all you guys trading RH if things actually start heating up

a fucking phone app used by this many people is gonna crash so hard during a flash correction. its gonna be insanity. RHers are unironically gonna lose everything and not even know what happened till its ogre.

as the saying goes:
>someone has to hold the bags

cant wait for that new thread grim

>>10481719
Its coming. The question is how soon?
If trump lost, im sure wed be in it right now.
Then again by importing immigrants, you get new people to saturate with debt. Now that the US is cracking down on immigration, the new borrower serf class wont be able to grease the gears. When people stop borrowing enough money , interests wont get paid and one default will topple everything like dominoes.
What are you guys doing to hedge?
Silver and Gold make the most sense to me,but theres things like uvxy, which you really have to wonder whose going to buy something like that during a crash, if the markets dont get shut down every day. Then theres crypto, which ive stayed away from due to the fees. Seems like BTC and LINQ are the only two worth a shit.
There was this thing called hashgraph that was supposed to solve the byzantine generals problem, and become the new BTC but not sure where that went.

>>10481791
The trend is that the new person comes in using RH as he builds revenue, then as his volumes become large enough, he then moves to another more secure form of trading system.
RHs one advantage is the lack of commissions. So for the new trader, he is able to actually work, experiment, and see improve. However, after a while, the obvious problems become apparent. For example, if one wanted to pump and dump a few times a day, they wouldn't be able to.

>>10481883
>cant pump and dump a few times a day
why would that be?

Im gonna go long 20x Duetch Lufthansa on 1brokr at midnight Kek I think its due for a bullrun

>>10481914
>>10481914

New bread, I'm in charge now

>>10481905
Apparently, trying to trade the same stock a few times a day on a regular account is not permitted.

>>10480672
>Maybe they'll finally get around to letting me buy spreads.
I was able to upgrade to spreads by going to Settings -> Options Trading -> Upgrade.

They still don't allow naked options, which is probably a good thing considering their target audience.