/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>10459741
rinse and repeat until 67yo ( not gonna happen ) at least the pay is good for the girl i hope

>>10459819
The brainwashing is in full effect here. This kind of lifestyle is actually comfy to normies

>>10459741

Wageslaving is disgusting

AI Robot Space Communism is the only alternative.

As bad as this looks as early as 100 years ago nearly everyone did manual labor, and even in the US today the majority still are truck drivers, factory workers etc.

4chan's base is located in US and EU cities and they are not representative of shit.

Count your blessings. Also most people talking about having 100k+ saved at 21 are full of shit.

>Gets to work at 10:30 am.
>Long ass lunch.
>Leaves at 5 PM.

Yeah poor girl, and they wonder why they make less.

so much onions in one video. guy in the back at 1:55 has a involuntary onions reaction to the camera kek

Slavery is wrong, you racist cisgendered. Now get back to work, we are not done taking everything you produce.

>>10460330
another case of the epidemic at 2:06

She isn't working that many hours. But she has a long ass commute.

>>10460329
So then stop discriminating against her just because she's a woman in a white man's world.

>>10460315

>yes goyim, working is fine
>just be happy with what you have
>yes goyim

>>10460329
fucking this
she did way more commuting that actual work wtf

>>10460498
this is why we need musk's hyperloop

I'm sort of like that except I bring my own lunch sometimes and I never consume coffee. My workplace provides tea and milk.
On some days work 9 hours and on some I work 7. Then it's straight home for dinner and brapposting on /biz/

>>10460515

*this is why we need basic income

As a low IQ wage slave I can no way comprehend what kind of necessity or need we have for those people that "code" some weird useless software.

Can anyone explain to me what these people are working at and who is paying for this shit?
Isnt there already all the software one needs out there in this world?
I cant think of a time when I went through the streets and thought "ooh I really need this software or app right now, I better put in effort in explaining some company what I want and will pay them money to develope the software"

>>10460329
>they wonder why they make less
they don't make less

That video is so depressing kek

>>10460532
You're right, most of these jobs are a result of VC money bubble.
Coding something that makes production more efficient is very beneficial, but it's becoming increasingly rare, as most old industrial processes get upgraded from 386 on DOS to xeons on linux they are good afterwards for the next 30 years.

>>10460532

Private equity is paying for a lot of this. There’s just a lot of money in people trying to be the “next google” or make great software for some industry vertical. Most of the startups are running on fumes and the private equity is drying up.

If you’re a software engineer and you’re not focusing on lowering operational costs you will be unemployed in 2019.

>>10460530
basic income will effectively just become a wage subsidy. they'll ensure it's set up in a way that means that wagies are basically paying for their own basic income

>>10459741
How the fuck does she get anything done with so much dicking around? Holy fuck.

>>10460498
that is why we need self driving cars

Will cut commute in half or less.

What the fuck city is this? Looks depressing as hell. But otherwise yes, I'm a software engineer too. Drive 30min to work. Comf as fuck job. Probably work ~30hr/week at most. I don't live in a shithole like that though I have a house and drive 30min to work.

>>10460755
San Francisco, from her goyim apple watch. Agree with other posters that she's pretty retarded for a 4+ hour total daily commute.

>>10459819
It is, but san Francisco is ridiculously expensive to live in.
80k a year will get a 2 bedroom apartment and no possibility of ever owning a house or ur own place anywhere near ur job.

HAHA WHAT A FUCKING SLAVE
>willingly sits on his computer and spends 8 hours playing videogames and browsing this shithole.

>>10459741
What do you think her salary is?

Keep in mind she:
>lives in San Francisco which has an extremely high cost of living
>has a dog and a decent apartment
>has enough to get coffee/eat out often
>has a nice camera, clothes, etc.
>works as an app software engineer at Patreon

I'm going to guess six figures, at least in the $90,00-120,000/year range.

As much as you guys bash wagecucking, she could work this job for a few years, save up, invest, and then take a less demanding gig while doing what she wants. That doesn't sound too bad at all.

>>10461043

lol, software engineer in san fran? Probably over $200k including stock grans, bonus, etc.

>>10461092
oh, I've never lived on the West Coast so I guess I was lowballing pretty hard there. I don't know how anons in this thread can knock her for "wage cucking," that shit looks about as comfortable as salaried employment can possibly be.

>>10461043
Yeah you know she and all of the rest of San Fran are incapable of living frugally or saving money. I got the fuck out of there after getting a meme degree because my job paid 1/8 of what was required to have a studio apartment that wasn't Tenderloin-tier

>>10461126
It is. These people literally do no work and women are basically black holes that drift around offices sucking up incum and ruining employee relations

>software """engineer"""

>>10460329
Implying she even does any serious coding. She is a fucking diversity hire

>>10460534
they do

how do I get a girlfriend like her?

>>10461145
This. They are software developers at best, codemonkeys at worst. Not engineers.

Is that Adelyn Zhou?

>>10461405
Isn't software engineer just another word for coder?

Meanwhile I'm stuck working in bumfuck nowhere locations out in the hot ass weather or -30C in winter surrounded by low IQ blue collar retards who only care about sport and pickup trucks, big fucking black flies, and toxic gas that can kil you instantly and only make 50k starting JUST fuck my life up

>>10459741
>not coding from an office in your own home
>not coding while you travel
>being a wagie

fucking normies...

>>10459741
This bitch got in at 10:30 and didn't start really working till after lunch at like 12:30?

Basically living the fucking life. Fuck you OP!

>>10459741
You should research the standard requirements for creating zoo animal enclosures. It's standard for the cage to appear as natural as possible to the animal, with the ultimate goal being to cage it in such a way that it believes it has free will. It's the exact same concept with wageslaves and their masters. I'm glad you've opened your eyes, but you won't make it if you hold LINK.

>>10461887
Agree with everything you said. Just sold my link for tether and hodling until I make it in 2022

The loneliness of that makes me feel suicidal, but if you think this is slavery, you should fucking follow the day in the life of a flyover state manual laborer or factory worker. I’ve done roofing and worked in a factory worker in the summers, holy fucking shit it’s torture. This bitch barely even worked.

The people there are so fucking on edge, especially at the factory job because they’re expected to hit production quotas and shit. They’re running around like lunatics trying to keep everything running, they’d flip shit on you if you didn’t know exactly what you were supposed to be doing (and they were too dumb to teach it to you). I felt bad for those people because they were worked to death by their employers and you could see the effects in real time that job was having on their mood and how they treated people.

>>10459819
>that gif

ROFL.

that doesn't look too bad. I had a similar commute as her and it was exhausting

>wake up at 6
>get to train station at 7:30
>1 hour later arrive downtown
>walk for 15 minutes to the office
>work 9 to 5:30
>walk back to the train station and commute home
>get home around 7:30
>go to bed at 11
>rinse and repeat

how does she get away with working from 10:30 to 5:30 with 2 or 3 breaks for food? That's like a maximum of 5 hours per day spent on actual work. I would get fired after a week of doing that shit

>>10459741
>dumbass uneducated autist has no idea how software engineering works
>jealous af
Life in bay area working for a good startup is literally the best work environment you could possible have, and you could have enough saved up after a few years to invest, live off of (in a city of your choice), or spend lavishly (just work comfortably for a few more years). Autists on 4chan are only aware of the falsely glorified blue collar suburb lifestyle hence unable to perceive how folks with truly high intelligence can achieve good work/life balance while being happy and productive. Yea keep downplaying these people in broadstrokes as kikes betas whatever you want to generalize them as, it won't change a thing you're living an inferior life.

>>10461555
>bought into the blue collar welding/plumbing/basketweaving meme
rip

>>10462081
Good on you Fresco. Keep being that #1 employee!

Wah i have to sit at a desk in an air conditioned office for 8 hours a day. Spoiled babies...

>>10461995

>how does she get away with working from 10:30 to 5:30 with 2 or 3 breaks for food? That's like a maximum of 5 hours per day spent on actual work.

There's no way that's all the coding she does. She propably codes most of her "free time" aswell.

>>10462105
Yea being that "employee" that you despise so much yet have enough time and energy (and money) each day to work on self improvement, side projects, side business, and is surrounded by intelligent people who are genuinely happy. You know what's funny? I have more side cash to buy link each month than you can in a year too. But hey I guess being a neet or suburb blue collar means I'm more woke right?

>>10461995
what a lot of people fail to understand is when you're at work for 8 hours you aren't being productive for the entire 8 hours. Good companies are aware of that, so they try to use that downtime to help you refuel, keep you happy. You can say they are incentivized to do so, sure, but I'd call that relationship synergistic. When I work on my own projects I don't blindly work 4 hours straight either.

>>10460315
>manual labor
Peasants in the middle ages worked about five hours a day, sure it was more physical work but there wasn't a ridiculous commute and they didn't have to deal with women who'd leave them at the drop of a hat. I'd take their situation over wageslaving, thankfully I'm in a position that I don't have to do either though.

>>10462146
something people who have never worked professionally in a GOOD tech company do not understand, is great developers don't actually spend all their time coding. They spend a good portion of time on ideation, thinking in abstract concepts, evaluating edge cases, designing tests etc. The actual coding part basically accounts for 10-40% of the time depending on the individual.

>wahhhh why do I have to do things every day to afford the things I want
>wahhhh why can’t I just get basic income so that I can have lesser things but then not do anything?
>wahhhh why isn’t my basic income enough for me to do things like travel and enjoy life?
>wahhhh wait so what you’re saying is I’d have to wage slave to do more than just sit in the house and do nothing until I die?

Where does it end with you whining faggots. If all you want is to sit in a small house and be NEET and shitpost then there’s literally no point in even being alive.

>>10462160
Why you so triggered code monkey?

>>10462160
>t. post

>>10462190

More like someone who hasn't done any programming at all. If by coding you mean typing out the actual code then yea, it's the smaller part of it.

>>10462190
>a good portion of time on ideation, thinking in abstract concepts, evaluating edge cases, designing tests
so doing nothing of value, just moar bullshit, & muh apps

>>10462362
I guess you work a low level job?

>>10462407
I work in the bay area and see these "companies" all the time. It's all bs. Nothing of value is created, and the people are vapid self entitled cunts.
Show me one thing they've developed that I actually need. Pro-tip, you cant.

shes living the good life...
>be me, work construction
>wake up 5 am, get dressed eat etc and out the door by 6 am to drive an hour to the job site which is a different location
>get to the job site by 7, clock in, start busting ass and hauling heavy shit
>12:00, eat lunch, 12:30 back to work hauling heavy shit
>5 oclock comes, realize we still have work to do and need the job finished by tomorrow
>stay there till 7:30, absolutely exhausted
>get home by 8:30
>buy fast food, shower sleep and do it all over again

This is why construction workers do cocaine

>>10462455
I watched a startup in San Fran mission district or whatever its called. They raised $14 million or so, setup shop, paid a shit ton to staff, closed a year later. A lot of the money was spent traveling and speaking at conferences. Seen a competitor of theirs do the same thing but right before they closed down they had an ICO and were able to pay back original investors and make out like a bandit running their same operation but just adding an ever decreasingly valued crypto currency to their project.

That was impressive. Like fucking ads. Where do we even go from here? Melanie on Instagram saying she's a wagie too ecksdee?

>>10462190
you lazy nigger. i could hire 30 pajeets/chinks to do your job for 1/3 the price. Then hire one good coder to fix their fuck ups and still come out ahead.

>>10460620
I would want to kill if someone was eating next to me while i worked. Fugging normies

>>10459741
this video makes me want to be a criminal

>>10462483
Yep. Its all soulless cunts running around lying to each other and trying to BS each other. You can feel it in the air. It's disgusting.

>>10459741
There are a few things I am grateful for in life. One is food that I get to eat and two is satoshi. Thank you satoshi for creating this pyramid ponzi imaginary money scam in my time. I don't even care if it's pure speculative hype, it actually frees me from modern slavery. Thank you based crypto. Thank you jews and manipulating whales, thank you scamming pajeets. Man I fucking love life unironically because of you. Crypto is freedom.

i would unironically kill myself out of horror if i had to eat lunch with those normies and pretend to fit in with them

just the lunch eating part alone freaks me out

during high school i always hid in the bathroom at lunch

what language was she using? rust?

>>10462531
This

>>10460329
I'd fucking kill for a job like that.

>>10462271
>>10462271
>mooo
>baaaaaah

That's all I had read desu.

>>10462362
This is actually very true tons of new "software devs" write some of the shittiest, bloated code i've ever seen. They make websites that need the latest and greatest CPU just to read your fucking e-mails.

Time was devs would make sure their code ran well and worked across various platforms. Now they can't even be bothered to make sure their shit stain of a website can render well outside of chrome.

just a real gaggle of lazy, incompetent niggers these modern devs are.

How hard is it to be a software engineer?

>>10462475
Protip: dont fall for the construction meme

>>10462564
Not hard at all. These fags like to come off as if they're pondering life's biggest questions when all they're trying to make is a "fart detection" app.

You can teach yourself the basics in 2 weeks time, and become very proficient by 6 months to a year if you keep with it. It's not hard at all, i've done it, and i'm no genius level BIG BRAIN BRENDAN EICH.

i just watched it again and noticed she arrived at work 10.24am and THEN made breakfast.
missed that first time around

>>10461616
This what I do in Manhattan except I can walk to work in ten minutes and I will make about $260k this year.

At 12:05, drop my stuff at my desk and say good morning to my coworkers, then leave immediately for lunch. Get back and start coding after. Go home at 7-8pm.

>>10462559
This anon knows

>>10462612
do you work for a big company? are you making dosh?

>>10462590
would you rather work your comfy family business in a country with shit economy and no future, live a comfy life but never afford things like expensive technology, cars etc and probably never get pension or go to a first world country and work soul crashing manual labour? i am about at the point where i have to decide that

>>10459741

she looked pretty cute nom noming this toast anon

>>10462682
sometimes u gotta do what u gotta do, if u do end up choosing the first world route dont get hypnotized by the flashy cars and expensive things, work on improving your quality of life first and getting into a good long term career that is low stress on your body and mind, and be wary of scammers and con artists

>>10460916
But am I forced to play vidya and browse business forum? No, you fucking cumstain bitch

>>10460620
i work managing rdms and do 2 hours of real work max per day
it's very difficult to actually work 8 hours a day in tech if you're at an established company

>>10462081
Lol

Fuck sf where i get the impression the city hates techies.

In NYC, the mayor hates people with high salaries but nobody specifically hates techies.

Fuck these entitled pieces of shit. I work 12 hours 6 days a week in construction and commute 2 hours a day. I make a lot of money but it's probably the same as these coddled whiny pieces of shit.

>>10463010

>>10459741
I cant wait for transhumanism to become a thing so I can literally be a nigger killing machine

>>10462531

What the fuck man?

why do normies think its ok to waste their lifes away beeing wagecucks?

its normies who are so hellbent on life and enjoying it.

The money that’s pouring into stocks today is funding this laziness and degeneracy culture of workers... I remember in 2005 when the place to go to make money was wall street.. 18 hour work day, and u had to be sharp. The job would give you a 100k + paycheck plus bonuses depending on performance. Now lazy developers working 4 or 5 hours get a 200k+ paycheck at google and amazon. The same job that a college student in a computer science department could do for 20k . The NASDAQ is sooner or later going to collapse or implode . Cuz I absolutely would never give any of my money to any tech stocks that encourage this kind of lazy work culture. I feel bad for the people who invested in the company she works for. Because that money is probably lost by now.

>>10464053

>Now lazy developers working 4 or 5 hours get a 200k+ paycheck at google and amazon.

Except that doesn't exist. You really think Google hires some lazy faggot who only works 4 hours a day? You really think that? It's more like 12+ hours a day.

>>10460620
you didn't see all the looks from her coworkers? it was obvious that she doesn't do a fucking thing. half of them probably go home and complain about it on 4chan later

>>10459741
You guys all felt for it, really think working is as comfy.

They probably left out the
- work at least 8 hours
- all the agile bullshit metings
- the manager with his hard goals

This is just a promotion video for working at their shitty company .

Fuck this shit

>>10460532
>Isnt there already all the software one needs out there in this world?

No, if there is, there won't be software still being made. New problems always come up, and software is create in part to help solve those problems. Not all software consists of shovelware gimmicky apps and games that you see on the smartphone app store. There are software designed to solve specific problems that are marketed to businesses, software that everyday people wouldn't know about.

>>10460588
>If you’re a software engineer and you’re not focusing on lowering operational costs you will be unemployed in 2019.

unironically true, i have spent the last year (abd the upcoming 2 years) optimising and shutting down large swaths of compute infrastructure for a fortune 100 cloud computing company. all dev efforts halted if its nit tied directly to shrinking operational costs

>>10459741
>software engineer
>iOS app developer
pick one

>>10464088
>what is diversity hire
I guarantee you there are women and minorities making 150k+ working at Google and Amazon that write maybe 2 working lines of code a day.

>>10464716
we recently hired a bitch who does fuck all, she literally works maybe 1 hour a day, tops and she's going to get promoted soon

>>10459741
>be me
>dev
>work 9 hours a day
>at my seat 95% of the day
>given 2 weeks to complete major projects

what the fuck is this shit

>>10464778
Yep. Same with the previous 2 companies I worked at the last two years. This is why I only work in crypto and freelance right now. There's so much dumb money in tech it's insane. And it's going to all come to crypto especially once it scales. Only a matter of time, really.

>>10459741
this looks amazingly comfy. me on the other hand

>get up at 4 am
>start work at 5
>8 hours of constant shitty labour, mostly involving crushing and grinding a shit tonne of coal
>hands are fucked from sifting wet coal around a screen for hours on end. gloves minimise the damage but shits so hard that it still cuts through
>cant look at my phone for a second, cant sit down for a second. have to be on my feet for the entire shift

i want out

my typical software engineering day:
wake up at 6:00am
work out in home gym from about 6:30 to 7:30
make breakfast and shower, leave by 8:30
get to work around 9:00
coffee and news till about 10:00, most people actually get in around this time
usually have meetings with the Indians at 11:00am to make sure their shit is in line (its like the middle of the night for them, crazy)
lunch, I usually pack and eat at my desk to avoid having to act like I like my coworkers, around 12:00-1:00
usually around 2:00pm we have whats called "scum meeting" its complete bullshit meme in the industry you can google it if you want a good laugh. its about 30minutes of people desperately sandbagging the fuck out of everything they're working on
get most work done from 3:00 to 4:00pm.
around 4:00 get tired and browse the internet
5:00pm head home
5:30 get home and make dinner
go to bed around 10:00pm
I make about $15k/month, pretty comfy

>>10464990
what the fuck

>in the chair at 9 AM
>work work work
>go to the bathroom for a piss for 3 minutes
>work work work
>1pm rolls around
>1 hour lunch
>work work work work
>6pm
>finally done

I make 49k a year

>>10464990
>I make about $15k/month, pretty comfy
This is pretty fat. What language do you work with?

>>10464793
>tfw you get several messages a day about your progress
is there anything more stressful?

>>10465025

mostly python and go now, some C++. Used to do mostly C when I actually worked on high performance software. Now its mostly clobbering together various open source software into things brainlets find easier to use and charging them $3,000/month.

>>10464793

>what the fuck is this shit

A woman in a tech company.

The worst part even if whatever meme company she works at goes bankrupt, she'll easily move on because of diversity quotas.

>>10459741
America won't recover from the next crash.

This thread makes me laugh.

>have some spare cash
>notice a need thats not very well satisfied by other companies
>hustle around and borros to raise capital
>hire code monkeys and outsource to some shitty pajeets
>the product is a hit and i make bank
>proceed to hire some more monkeys and a couple more engineers, get a better office as well
>faggot coders are shit-talking each other half the time, they spend the other half shit talking the pajeets
>they are happy with the pennies i throw at them
>fired a lazy faggot who thought he could play vidya on his phone while am paying him
>he begged the manager like a bitch
>the whole team is so smug about their salaries and how they are working in a rising startup
>mfw am jewing them out of their time and barely paying them anything back while am actually chilling in north africa

When will you take the entrepreneur pill, /biz/? All these people happy to be wageslaves are your road to wealth and early retirement. You just have to put them in their desks and they will happily make you rich.

>>10465360
Do not pull that plant out
Thats a witches herb mandrake

they say that they're actually people and decended from the first humans created that were cursed or something

If you mix it in tea or drink it in the right amounts you get high as a kite and whitches do wierd rituals with it.

you need a disposable dog to uproot it properly

>>10465539
>chink medicine

>>10465360
>says the dude that doesn’t make any significant money
I’m fucking cringing, you sound like a 10 year old that just watched an episode of shark tank.

>>10463988
They don't have the capacity to become self made success.

>>10465360

That plant is T H I C C af bro!

Also, entertaining larp bro. 4/5

why you guys hating on my girl mayuko (girl in the video)?

i would creampie her so hard and produce perfect soldier kids ready for education and the workforce

imagine taking a good girl like her and turning her into a SLUT

>>10462512
1000x

Used to love tech earlier. Absolute hate tech for reasons mentioned above and also more fucking MBAs without any operational knowledge about whatever sub-sector they operate on.

1. Take boring job with less stress, even if pay a bit less. Stress fucks up your health and energy levels. Maintain good rapport with your boss.

2. Go for side-hustle. It’s not easy to narrow down. But as a general advice your first business should be focused on cash-flow and up to a small degree on your hobby/interest.

3. Learn investment (stocks, not crypto gambling) and target to build a solid and diversified income-producing portfolio. Read about FiRE and practice frugality.

4. Adopt frugality, simplicity and sustainability in your life. FIRE or journey towards FIRE would free your mind to spend somewhere else. Spend more time with nature. Experiment with gardening, meditation in sanctuary or greenish outdoors. Hug a tree and feels gratitude.

5. Fix your diet and exercise routines. Don’t over-exercise. Look at Paleo or AIP / anti-inflammatory diets. Fix your sleep time and circadian rhythms. Optimise your vitamin levels.

6. Engage right brain more often. Write / create a short film / compose a music / illustrate / design anime or whatever creative expression suits you. Publish those pieces to journal your progress.

7. Learn spirituality. It’s different from religion. At the very least think about interconnectedness of all earthly beings. Realise that your life and life of a random animal in Africa is actually not much different. Nature doesn’t care for your Xbox games or mindless consumerism. Keep your desires and aspirations checked.

8. Help others - unprivileged ones / orphans / sick and olderly people. Please remember that when you perform a self-less act or philanthropy or charity, your body and mind says “thanks” to you, chemically !!!

Live a simple life rooted to your tradition and culture escaping mindless trap of consumerism.

>>10466219
Is it time to short the NASDAQ?

Was about to do the commute she does in the video to work at Lyft but came to my senses. Not going to sit in a Caltrain 2 hours every day. Took a comfier job that's a 10 minute commute.

>>10466320
I can't understand people who don't include their commute into their hourly wage. I'm a 5 min drive form my job it's not worth giving up for few grand extra. More time for ot if I want it anyway.

>>10462187
the woman in the video looks like she clocks in to work at like 11am and left by like 4pm, about 5 hours as well

sure the commutes gay but honestly i've lived the NEET life before (after working fulltime for almost a decade) and it gets boring sitting around at home and not having a good work/life balance to add structure to your day. I'd almost welcome a cozy commute like she has in the video where you're out in the sun riding in a window seat on a train.

Reality is that it doesn't matter how free or rich you become, you're going to have problems just like everyone else, or you're going to postpone your problems by living such an isolated lifestyle that you'll develop severe mental illness instead and pay the toll for those problems later.

Look at all the millionaires, CEOs, actors, musicians, people who had life in the palm of their hands, as much money and power and fame and success as they'd ever need and they end up killing themselves.

>>10466354
It makes sense in the long term picture. She's trading short-term comfort for a better future. She got the job with a long commute because she couldn't find a similar job close to her home. She plans to find a better job with a shorter commute once she has worked a year or two at the company.

>>10461610
>normie
biggest normalfag detector

>>10464854
you work for cloud peak energy by chance?

>>10460315
>100 years ago nearly everyone did manual labor
Manual laborers are bros and fun to hang out with. Speaking from experience. There seems to be camraderie and tight-knit community like bonds with manual laborers as opposed office drones who act like psychopaths and/or passive-aggressive all the time to stave off boredom. If given a choice to live before the industrial revolution and post-industrial, I would choose the former in a heartbeat.

>>10461149
she works in objective-c which honestly tells you a lot

>>10460315
Manual labor is healthy and deeply gratifying
I worked at a corporate shipping center making 31/hour in my early 20s and I never once dreaded going to work. No social circles, no take home work, and no bullshit.

>>10467842
>Manual labor is healthy and deeply gratifying

Depends on the job. Many manual labor jobs involve being exposed to hazardous chemicals and environments. You'll eventually end up physical problems, like weakened sense of smell/hearing, back aches, etc. There's a reason why poor people have higher rates of cancer.

>>10462475
i bet you sleep sweet though

the sleep of the labouring man is sweet!

I worked in a family owned coffee/bubble tea shop. it was intensely manual labor, plus customer service at the same time, for minimum pay. no.

>>10466242
Most people here will call you a faggot but this is genuinely great advice thank you anon

>>10462531
>>10462548
lmao same but I like eating with people now

what even is social anxiety just like chill out and say what on your mind bro lmao

>>10464088
>It's more like 12+ hours a day.
as if.

>>10459741
I want to do this but I'm 24 and I type slow

>>10462187
>Peasants in the middle ages worked about five hours a day
Absolutely not true. They worked like dogs during planting/harvest and worked about 5 hours a day during the other season.

>>10461043
>less demanding
kek

>>10459741
>drive a car to catch a train to catch a bus
The absolute state of burger transportation

>>10462612
what language can you be proficient in and hire-able in 6 months?

>>10462190
>They spend a good portion of time on ideation, thinking in abstract concepts, evaluating edge cases, designing tests etc.
Sure, but do you think she's doing that while she's photographing her chai tea during her daily hour-long coffee break?

>>10459741
>they have really nice chairs

>be me
>embedded engineer at automotive company
>sit on shit chairs for 8 hours a day
>for a fraction of the pay this woman's getting

>>10460532
Talking like someone that knows nothing about software.

>>10464810

I work as an accountant and get prospective clients coming in the door with absolute total utter shit tier ideas that you would never think would be a viable business, but they are sitting with thousands upon thousands from VC, accelerator and seed rounds.

Where the fuck does all this money come from?

Then the founders just pay themselves stupidly high salaries and inevitably I am applying for the company to go through insolvency strike off after a year or two.

>>10468840
Depends on how many and which languages you're already proficient at.

You definitely can't learn to be a good programmer in that time.

>>10459741
woah such a cutie
but fucking 2:30 hrs from waking up to wageslave pit? then another 2,5 hrs to get back. What the hell.
5 hrs daily spent navigating through niggers in a metro. would have kms

Feelsgood to live in a little Slav shithole with literally 15-30 minute commute.

>>10460413

>>10460916
willingly sits on his computer and spends 8 hours playing videogames and browsing this shithole
>willingly

>>10460532
>As a low IQ wage slave
No wonder.
Software is never fire-and-forget. There's maintenance, upgrades, scaling, support and new features. Even if all startups will cease to exist there would still be plenty of work for software engineers on the existing products.

I'm a bit creeped out that every public place is filled with people staring at their phones.

>>10459741
>Enters the office at 10:24 am
Fucking amateur. I bet she never had to deal with offshore developers and needing to do scrum meetings at 8:30 am, and be in the fucking building before then. Then again as a full time employee, since you get paid lunch compared to contracting, you can leave at straight up 4:30 pm, which is nice. She didn't work 8 hours btw, 10:30am - 5:30 pm

>2 hour commute
Why don't she bring her laptop to work while she travels
If it's a desktop PC, why don't she ssh into it from her laptop

>>10459741
>>10459819
Socialism is the future. All jobs will be automated soon.

Bad Mouse video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOJWP_e3EVA

>>10470456
8 hours is nothing. I routinely work 8am-10pm in public accounting.

I work at Facebook in Silicon Valley as a senior software engineer. These videos that popped up recently, the "day in the life" ones aren't really all THAT accurate.

Sure, it's a good job but they make it look like nobody is really working at all.

>>10466381
Probably the best comment i've read on this site, you sound very present and at peace with the how the modern world works, you've wrapped your head it's good and bad elements and are just doing what you can.

>>10470651
Give him his good boy points already. He deserves at least 5

That looks comfy as fuck for how much she makes, im a chink getting an engineering management (industrial engineering) degree in US. Will I be able to live a life like that? My gpa is fucking awful btw

>>10470823
I work at one of those "comfy" offices (Facebook). Your GPA doesn't matter that much. Not even your college matters that much.
What matters are your internships and your projects.

>>10470841
Hmm how to get internships with shitty gpa? Asking friends parents who work at good companies a good start? Imma be taking private computer classes so I can at least say im super good with excel and other microsoft shit

>>10464137
Kek it did look like that

>>10470823

Sorry m8

As a Chink male you will be discriminated against even more than a white male. Affirmative action is great.

>>10464137
this. they probably cringe at her antics. how can you get into flow state when you spend half your time sipping onions latte, focusing on what to eat for lunch and being an absolute normie watching netflix when you get home? my brother is a senior programmer and he actually enjoys coming home to do his own personal project / learn a new coding language or whatever it is they do.

women are such a fucking meme, the dudes hiring her must have been in awe at a (relatively) good looking girl with (relatively) "good" knowledge of programming... very rare combo

>>10470983
Right? They thought she appeared to be not entirely worthless, but they still get bonus points and tax incentives for the diversity hire.

>>10459741
This is actually not bad, she's probably passionate about what she's doing. Meanwhile she probably has several side incomes, Youtube being one of them most definite.

>>10462509
This anon gets it

>>10466242
Did all this except the bullshit spirituality/charity. Grinding doubletime even just a few years is still stressful.
>>10470570
>use laptop on bus
>get robbed

>>10470902
As I already said, you need good projects. Do some stuff in your free time and create something to show them. The standards aren't really high for internships.

>>10464990

15k a month?! Holy fucking shit, you must be in SF or Seattle right?

>>10471252
15k a month isn't all that special in SF. I make 260k p.a., so that's about 21.5k a month.
I get stocks of my company too.

>>10464990
Which coding languages do you expertise in?

If you think about it, if you don't plan on getting married or having children, you can live pretty comfortably even on an average salary. Sometimes I wonder why I even work so much, since I know that I'll never have a family.

no wonder normies are so poor. daily starbucks and eating out.

>>10461616
her commute is probably hours long and she has to work during that

>>10468884
Being a good programmer probably takes many years but in six months you should have enough to get a decent job.

Code monkeys are sub humans, my job title is “IT” specialist” and I basically just fix anything in my organization that deals with tech and make double what any code monkey I went to college with makes KEK. I get my own office and private bathroom too.

>>10468942

In America it is all about tailoring your commute and living experience. I live in an extremely nice part of the country, my commute is 10 minutes: half though houses & businesses, and half through forest & farm fields. I make six figures and work in a cluster of small businesses/sole proprietors, so the people I interact with professionaly on a daily basis are 98% white men. My life is super stress free and there is rarely any interpersonal bullshit to deal with.

Most people my age and younger have no idea how shitty modern work environments are, especially compared to how they could be if we we're allowed to discriminate.

My suggestion, be a small business owner and work with other small businesses, much easier to tailor the Who Where When and How Far.

>>10471361

Fuck me for being in southern yurope.

>>10459741
Cute chink girl. Cringe video though.
>COFFEE IS FUELL HAHAHA FIRE EMOJI
>IM SO HIP EATING WITH MY MILLENNIAL COWORKERS AND MY SOI CHAI

I hate people. I realize I am an anomaly though

>>10460329
This