/biz/ - Business & Finance

First for lunch

nth for RATSUCHAN

>>10431105
Skip the (((KYC))) bullshit and trade stocks with crypto: 1broker.com

>>10431141
>selling real estate in a Depression

Buy gold and silver - real constitutional money.

Gold is not an investment its real money. Nobody buys gold to get back more worthless Jew dollars.

The entire point of owning gold is so you have money and wealth for when the dollar implodes and you can pick up assets for pennies on the dollar after the deflationary collapse of all asset prices.

Valuing gold in terms of dollars is what a dumb nig would do. Think about it... did gold all of a sudden become valuable when America was born and the dollar was created? So why would you be valuing gold in terms of dollars?

A gold ounce 900 years ago is still that same gold ounce today. Doesn't matter if the Jew dollar exists or not.

All the dollar value of gold tracks is how unstable, volatile, and lack of store of value the dollar is.

AMAT continues to be criminally undervalued

First for Hershey
Second for runners up GIS and KHC

>>10431192
Gold is a shit investment because millennials and zoomers won't buy it. Gold is pretty much dead.

>>10431192
Become your own bank. When you buy gold you aren't really buying anything.... you are just becoming your own bank...

So the Jews can't confiscate your wealth through inflation.

"In the absence of a gold standard there is no way to protect savings from confiscation through inflation - there is no safe store of value." Alan Greenspan (1966)

"Gold is money, everything else is credit." -JP Morgan (1913 testimony to congress)

>>10431192
Why would you buy gold instead of something cool like Cushion Cut Gems and pearls?

>>10431222
Gold isn't an investment gold is real money.

If some zoomer doesn't buy gold how does that make my gold less valuable? Gold is stored economic energy you dipshit.

Stocks, bonds, real estate, and crypto.... their values rely on energy produced in the future. Gold gets its value from energy produced to get it in the past

>>10431192

Gold will be worthless as currency when the great Mesoamerican empires rise again following the collapse.

>>10431168
She'll make bank until then. The plan is to save up a ton of money and when a recession / depression hits then we buy up a ton of land with future commercial value and houses that have rental prospects then hodl for 5-10 years and wait for the real estate market to recover and start selling that shit. We also want to branch out into different business ventures as the opportunities present themselves.

>>10431168
i guess... at least hes not buying it lol

>>10431192
jesus fuck goldbug
get fucking shot
anyone buying in at these levels in preparation for a crash deserves whats coming to them for being too incompetent to look at the historical data of what happens to metals in a crash

>>10431228
>"Gold is money, everything else is credit." -JP Morgan (1913 testimony to congress)
>1913
so what changed since then hmmmm?
it doesnt matter if you like it or not, this is keynes nightmarish vision were living in, and neither you nor i can stop it

>>10431239
BecUse gold is real money.

Jews have really infected western culture Brain with their anti gold propaganda campaign the last 100 years.

Literally every single American in the 19th century and early 20th century knew gold was money.

Not to mention every person who ever lived going back thousands of years

Glad to see FBs stock is up to 177 after its low of 175

AMD yes or no?

>>10431192
I got calls on SLV but I don't own any metals.

I just woke up, and I'm already in the green
Who's ready to hold AMZN with me through earnings? It's moon time baby !

>>10431267
100 years ago a good weekly salary was 20$ and gold equaled 20$/oz.

Today 20$ barely buys you lunch at Taco Bell for 2.....

But if you take that gold ounce to a coin shop you get $1,300 for it in fiat. Which is STILL a good weekly salary. So gold held up beautifully as money.

>>10431252
Gold's value fluctuates based on demand just like stocks or crypto, which does make it worth more as an investment than as simply a storage of value. But since gold is basically guaranteed to go downward in value, you are choosing to lose money by buying it, so you might as well just keep your cash in a safe or something.

>>10431271
Wrong. Real money comes from extracting the labor of another living thing
Ivory and Pearls are the only real money

>>10431293
>happy about 0.14%

>>10431295
100 years ago you could have bought 1 coca cola stock and youd have 45 million now

>>10431300
Ivory is now illegal to harvest and trade in most countries though.

is there anything wrong with a retirement plan of buying say 2 shares of QQQ and 1 or 2 shares of TECL or the equilivent every month, plus mayb esome grandpa style DJI ETF?

I'm 22 and need to find a way to split up roughly $1000 right now monthly as I try to accumulate more assets

>>10431262

I think I'm going to move to South American and be Incan. Just pay your labor tax and you're sure to get fed. Sounds pretty sweet.

>>10431286
You will be starving soon. You need physical.

In Venezuela where their currency has collapsed and people are eating their pets... 1 single ounce of silver buys you 4 months of food on the black market.

Thus proving the con and scam that fiat is. Since an ounce of silver is 15$ right now. And 15$ barely buys you lunch at a restaurant. But when paper fails the true purchasing power of silver is unleashed

Remember for much of human history and even in underdeveloped parts of world today a days wage equaled a silver piece the size of a silver dime.

So when fiat collapses and you have say 500 ounces of silver (which only costs you about 6k to get right now) you'll literally have like 30 years worth of days wages.

Because there is much less silver available and billions more people on the planet.

So a silver dime (converted to the new currency) will probably be worth 3-4 days wage.

Can the goldbugs fuck of to /shiny rocks general/ or something?

>>10431293
wew, made $7 today lads! Love watching those green lines every day.

>>10431319
>tfw your ancestors were all commie-peasants living in abject shitpoverty with no money to pass onto their children
>tfw you will make but have no one to pass your wealth onto
(((They))) always win, don't they?

I BOUGHT 10 17 DOLLAR PUTS ON AMD

IM SO FUCKING RETARDED

>>10431298
Gold only really works in a stagflation environment. When the USA prints a 4.5% GDP growth gold is not the place you want to be

Gold's going to 500 imo

>>10431298
A gold ounce 900 years ago is still that same fucking gold ounce today. Doesn't fucking matter if the dollar exists or not.

If the dollar dissapeared from the planet tomorrow, my gold is completely unaffected.

You morons need to stop valuing gold and silver in dollar terms. You've been infected by Jew propaganda.

The primary function of money is to value goods exchanged for it. Nothing does that better today or 2,500 years ago than gold.

You value gold and silver using ratios to other real assets. You don't value it in Jew dollars

>>10431295
im aware of how inflation works
perhaps a little more so than you fren

the only metal worth holding for now is platinum. weve already been through this. after plat, its silver, then palladium, THEN gold. platinums price is where gold is headed and golds price is where plat is headed

regardless, my statement stands. you buy metals at the bottom of the crash, and hold for the recession. sell before the faggots at the FED bribe everyone back in w more endless QE

you DONT go long metals when were undergoing QT. QT caps inflation temporarily as $50B in bonds die every month in the FEDs port.

>>10431326
I believe that only applies to Elephant Ivory :)

Fugg
Got too into looking @ penis then missed chance for close long at 284.1
Rip me

>>10431364
no that seems reasonable
tho it depends entirely on the time frame. whats expiry?

>>10431303
After surviving almost a dozen earnings reports yesterday, and working that tech was about to implode, it's nice to see my fears we're for naught , even though I'm heavy in tech stocks

And gains are gains

>>10431319
^

>>10431319
So what? Nobody is saying don't invest.

But the question is why is our savings being confiscated through inflation?

Why can't I go to work right now... earn 150$ for the day.... and have that 150$ buy me the same amount of goods today as it will 25 years from now.

What is happening? Why are Jews able to steal my wealth through inflation?

AMRS pre-ER crash when?

>>10431386
Next friday.

I figured they'd shoot up and then fall back down but I'm losing money bad and having second thoughts

>>10431395
you could put your savings in bonds and youd beat inflation every year automatically :) No thanks are necessary

>>10431356
>ancestors
>implying I am creating a risk profile for my possible descendants over hundreds of years after my death
>implying you aren't cucking for people who may or may not exist and will never know you

Reminds me of the couple that bought some rural property and ended up finding millions in gold coins buried somewhere. Some dude put his whole fortune in the ground like a squirrel and all it did was enrich some lucky people over a hundred years later.

>>10431371
Nothing wrong with platinum. But it's impossible to lose owning gold and silver. It's real money. You are 1000% secure owning gold.

If you put your entire net worth into gold your 1000% secure.

If gold goes to 500$ that would be a good thing it would mean that the govt isn't out of control anymore and prices and goods will fall also.... so in real terms you don't lose if gold goes to 500$.

Seems to be you don't understand the entire point of buying gold in the first place

>>10431414
And what happens when the banks fail and we have a currency crisis?

Usdebtclock.org

You know what the national debt is? 20 trillion.

And your keeping your wealth in debt instruments???

Can't have freedom and prosperity when your currency is a Jew debt instrument not backed by real money

>>10431344
It's the daily /pol/ infestation.

looks like i spoke too soon, my stop loss just got triggered

>worry

rate my portfolio
I want to get rid of ODP

>>10431443
They print the currency, it's never running out. US bonds are the safest financial asset denominated in dollars.

>>10431443
Gold and silver are for homosexuals

>>10431411
that is not a reasonable timeframe at all
you definitely fucked up. if the options arent too far depressed n price, you should roll them out to a later expiry imo. at LEASt a month, preferably more

>>10431423
m8
you know who holds most of the gold and silver in the world? and by most i mean 90% of the physical shit? the fucking IMF

ill tell ya one thing the IMF is NOT gonna let you do, and thats beat (real) inflation by simply holding rocks. they have arguably more direct control over gold and silver than they do fiat

>>10431344
don't you know stupid? this thread isn't to talk about stocks it's only to talk about rocks and how much we hate tripfags. The whole "stock market general" is just a marketing scheme to get people in here.

fuck fuck fuck why did i close any of my shorts this morning they were all the correct play AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA ITS NOT FAIR

RESHORTING EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW

>buy gold

Lol. Fucking neanderthals. Evolve already.

Facebook down 42%

>>10431467
sell everything and start over.

Chad DOW

>>10431471
How do I roll them if I already bought them

>>10431417
Do you morons not understand that if you transfer 50k from your checking account into gold coins.... you are basically becoming your own bank.

That guy was able to preserve his wealth by holding gold coins.

The question is why was 8$/hour fantastic income 60 years ago yet today if you make 8$/hour you are in poverty?

>>10431368
okay, compare the returns on an ounce of gold bought in 1980 and held to today vs that same amount of the S&P500 over the same time frame

spoiler alert: shiny rocks underperform capitalism

speaking of /pol/ memes
fuck turkey
their govt works directly with the most nefarious parts of our IC and fight directly alongside ISIS.

who here wants to short turkey into dust?
ticker is TUR
might get the 200day puts and try to harvest some vega for when shit hits the fan

>>10431499
Made me check.

>>10431484
Come because of a trick, stay because of lunch

A real stock general

>>10431500
why

>>10431470
You realize gold gave the dollar its value right?

Literal starving niggers in Africa with no formal education know gold is money. You can go on YouTube right now and watch them digging for it in riverbeds and exchanging it for a loaf of bread when they get .01 gram

>>10431285
Too late now, maybe hop in ASAP to play off the possible lackluster results from intel, but honestly it would be a lot riskier than buying in yesterday

>>10431503
"roll the option to a later date" means sell it and buy one at the same strike price with a longer expiration

>>10431520
actually you should be selling calls on your ODP and holding it imo

>>10431170
>>10431259
>>10431364
baka just fuck my trade sense up, senpai.

>>10431451
When me use fibb indicators like 2 adjust time frames so that price line in center

>>10431451
wtf is that constant fib retracement thing

>>10431484
i like talking rocks sometimes desu, cuz i trade em

but goldbugs are insufferably stupid

>>10431503
rollout
you sell your current contracts for what you have left, and buy more contracts at a later expiry. youre going to lose everything most likely if you stay w those short term ones, and theta will get exponentially worse every single day from here on out. if you rollout to 1month or 2 month ones, not only will your deltas be higher, but theta wont be a huge problem till the last half of the last month really

>>10431519
Remember Lunchbros Pudding yesterday

>>10431468
That's the problem dickhead they are printing fake money because if isn't backed by gold.

Do you even understand this is the reason "income inequality" is a thing?

60 years ago min wage was $1.25 or 5 silver quarters.

So if you take those 5 silver quarters to a coin shop right now you'll get about 18$ for them.

So a min wage worker in 1964 had the purchasing power of someone making 18$/hour today or twice and much as someone making min wage today.

>HMNY -50% yesterday
>HMNY -29% so far today
FARNSWORTH'd

>>10431467
It's balanced, but not fully diversified. You need some food, tech, and medical stocks.

>>10431511
if you held gold since the time of christ the yearly compound interest on that would come to something like a tenth of a percent. It is absolute shit. Now stop discussing holding gold. It is, has always been and will always be for absolute morons. Take your jew shit to pol and fuck off.

HMNY needs another reverse split soon. Incredible. This stock may have led to a few suicides this month. There had to be at least one person that off themselves because they lost everything investing in HMNY.

>>10431467
>>10431566
I obviously can't tell you which ones, though. If I knew, I'd buy them myself and give you the finger.

>>10431571
Near as I can tell, the people who tell idiots like that anon to buy gold make more on their investments than the gold buyers themselves.

>>10431577
I want to see this poopoo stock under $1 again. What a piece of shit.

>>10431506
>That guy was able to preserve his wealth by holding gold coins.
I was just talking about the idea of buying gold as a hedge against whatever historical events would negate holding financial wealth, or possibly even other capital goods/business interests. We have no idea what will happen after we die, it's pointless to hoard gold for your great great whatever when somebody could lose your gold pile, or they could've already sold it and spent it all, or they could live in Mad Max, or they could live on the moon.

>The question is why was 8$/hour fantastic income 60 years ago yet today if you make 8$/hour you are in poverty?
Who cares, you should be trying not to make $8/hr instead of working at McD's while thinking nominal prices are or should be in the 1930s.

>>10431511
How dumb are you so called "investors"

When I buy 1,000$ worth of Amazon stock.... and then I go buy 1,000$ worth of gold at a coin shop...

Do you not realiZe I'm buying the Amazon stock and gold for completely different reasons?

I'm buying the Amazon stock to get more fiat.... and I'm buying the gold because we are 20 trillion in debt and the dollar is dying and I want money and wealth for when fiat implodes.

Your buying them for different reasons.

Nobody is saying don't invest in Amazon...

But why did 8$/hour go much further 60 years ago than it does today?

Why is the currency being destroyed? Of course you can invest but why are my dollars in the bank becoming more worthless.

>>10431577
HMNY is quite literally the new DRYS

>>10431571
>It is absolute shit. Now stop discussing holding gold. It is, has always been and will always be for absolute morons.
This. One might be able to swing it in a bear market, but crypto provides better returns on that front.

>>10431493
you rack confidence and dicaprin
trading isnt about math and insider knowledge, its about knowing one's self

>>10431495
>>buy gold
>Lol. Fucking neanderthals. Evolve already.
this, everything I needed to learn about gold, i learned from the Wizard of Oz.
only paranoid farmers should be shilling that crap

>>10431499
can FB fucking contain its collapse, its ruining my other crap

>>10431553
money is a means to an end, using a commodity as money makes it easy to destroy your economy with one black swan event
fiat is not only more sensible, it is inevitable

>>10431545
i made it yesterday, cuz im tryin to learn how to code indicators/strats
heres an updated one that can adjust the top and bottom period lengths separately

https://pastebin.com/1sJiAWM9

only for tradingviews pine editor tho

>>10431596
could you stop redditposting? thanks

That feel when you can't make any more same-days because you'll be marked as a pattern day trader

>>10431539
I'm trying to sell calls, that's why I have 100 shares. No one's buying though.
I guess that's a better idea than just outright cutting losses though

>>10431580
I'm trying to avoid overdiversification with such a small portfolio because I've learned it just nukes my potential profit

honestly I've been thinking of just selling all my stocks, putting most of the money into diverse high-div-yield ETFs, and then portioning a bit for gambling on memes

New investor here.
Going to take a risk and drop 2k on ATT because YOLO and all of that i guess idk....
I've never invested but I'm feeling like it's a good pick.
How do i get started with investing it?

>>10431625
I wouldn't go all in on AT&T I had a put on them and I was in the green yesterday and I'm in the red so

>>10431595
What do you mean who cares??? Income inequality is an actual thing.

You could fucking "make it" 60 years ago driving retards on a bus to grammar school and have kids too because we were on a gold standard.

Do you not understand cost of living is skyrocketing and prices going up is the issue? And that prices are cheap as fuck on a gold standard?

If you made 10% returns in the stock market 50 years ago, those returns go much further than 10% returns today because prices back then weren't skyrocketing.

Why do you think so many people are fleeing to crypto in the first place? BecUse the dollar is dying because unirOnically it isn't backed by gold

>>10431625
>because YOLO and all of that i guess idk....
>I've never invested but I'm feeling like it's a good pick.
you're gonna fit right in

>>10431625
pick a broker. there are some in the OP. Robinhood is free but the UI is garbage. Others charge like $5 per trade.

>>10431625
>New investor here.
>Going to take a risk and drop 2k on ATT because YOLO and all of that i guess idk....
>I've never invested but I'm feeling like it's a good pick.
>How do i get started with investing it?

1. download robinhood
2. dont EVER go all in on one thing
EVER
better men than you have tried it over the years, none of them succeded
youre better off with lotto tickets if you arnt going to diversify

>>10431603
>can FB fucking contain its collapse, its ruining my other crap
It even ruined Twitter somehow lol

Buy more facebook shares goy, The analysts Garuntee you shekels

>>10431621
Me do complicated short / long hedging some days 2 avoid @_@

>>10431553
>That's the problem dickhead they are printing fake money because if isn't backed by gold.
>printing money meme
cough cough
if youd been paying attention, you wouldve noticed that they are not only not printing money anymore, but they are literally destroying it via quantitative tightening. hence why dollar has been mooning, and metals have been smashed.

were looking at 2 more hikes, with similar (but diminishing) effects each time.

the alternative is that we crash, in which cse metals will drop 15-20% overnight and THEN you should buy them

>>10431622
>I'm trying to avoid overdiversification with such a small portfolio because I've learned it just nukes my potential profit
I'm super-diversified at this point, but it's piecemeal (16 stocks, 4 crypto). I add some old and buy something new every time. YMMV, of course.

:3

Anyone buying in on the FB dip?

>>10431637
I mean long term it's only going to go up I guess. I mean it could go down in fact it will go down because of the buying I'd imagine but once they get back up it'll be in the green. Atts not going away so even if i drop 2k and just forget about it it'll at least make money at SOME point. I'm new at stocks tbqh I've never invested but I've read a ton of Tony Robbins books munger intelligent investor ben Graham listened to buffet basic economics etc etc so I have an idea of how it works. Plus my dad although poor made legit money from it so I kinda get it i guess.

>>10431625
>Going to take a risk and drop 2k on ATT because YOLO and all of that i guess idk....
You're not cut out for investing. NEVER put all of your eggs in one basket.

>>10431603
You think this because you were educated in shitty public govt schools.
Muh college degree... that literally niggers are able to obtain.

Read the constitution. Article 1 section 10...

Only gold and silver shall be legal tender.

You think you are smarter than our founders?

Look how bad the economy is right now. It's awful. And that's directly related to not having a gold standard.

You never heard the term "income inequality" and hordes of socialists complaint about it when we were on a gold standard.

You didn't even have to graduate high school 100 years ago and you could have 8 kids with the wife at home watching them when we were ona. Gold standard.

Now unless your a nigger on welfare you can't have a kid until your 30 with both parents in professional jobs

The bull market in America is just starting, 18 year consolidation and confirmed breakout, should be 20 years of gains

you can buy shiny rocks and lose all your money waiting for end of the world nonsense or hop on the Trump gains train, it's going with or without you

fuck it i'm going to try and catch this HMNY knife. O/S is only 1.7mil now

>>10431677
XD

>>10431682
Not enough stability yet. It keeps flirting between 176 and 177. I'm not risking shit on it today. It's all ETFs and safe stocks for me at the moment...

>>10431682
Yes ;_;

>>10431621
>>10431661
Just stop being poor and get more than $25k in your accounts. Or switch to something like futures that doesn't have pattern day trader restrictions at all.

>>10431684
>>10431653
>all in
I still have enough money to survive and thrive irl. This is kinda just fuckmoney that I can easily make after doing OT for 2 weeks. Besides I should start out with one just for now.

>>10431646
>5 dollars per trade
That really isn't TOO bad though...just a small fee. Fees are what gets you though.

>>10431704
retard is says no State shall .... to prevent each of the 50 the states from issuing their own currencies because that would be awful .
please fuck off with your reddit spacing

FIAT argument is so bad.

If you want deflation the entire economy will collapse because of huge debt. If you want to "save money" you don't save cash but rather invest it into something.

The holding money in a savings account is a big scam, yes. I agree, but the idea inflationary money is a bad idea is stupid. Yes, it does fuck normal people but without it the economy would simply implode.

Having to create an entirely new economy based around saving cash being wise would simply not work. You want people to invest into risk, aka stocks/housing/etc.

The bubble cycle is a feature.

>>10431715
Wtf I bought a share based on your advice and now Im losing money
Fuck you

>>10431663
Again.... do even understand the ENTIRE point of buying gold?

You buy gold because you want to secure your wealth because fiat is a Jew scam where our wealth gets devalued.

Nobody buys gold at 1300$ in hopes of selling it at 1700$

That's just a phantom profit and all that happened is the dollar became more worthless.

You buy gold so your savings can't be stolen through inflation by the Jew money masters at the Fed.

>>10431706
somebody will believe this

>>10431721
>I still have enough money to survive and thrive irl.
So what? Do you want to lose that money or spread it out and make more of it?

>>10431733
if you don't like fiat there are many assets that go up with inflation

>>10431706
this
Small specs will never understand
They fuel our flame

>>10431730
T_T please forgive! me am losing money too

>>10431747
>if you don't like fiat there are many assets that go up with inflation
...until the supposed crypto sell-off in December.

>>10431706
How can I lose my money in gold???

100 years ago a gold ounce was 20$ and that equaled a good weekly salary.

If you worked for a week 100 years ago and took a time machine to today would you have brought the gold ounce with you or the 20$ bill?

That gold ounce 100 years later today is still a good weekly salary when converted to fiat. 1300$

You do not understand that gold is real money.

Fuck... you can see a quote from the Bible 2500 years ago that an ounce of gold bought you 350 loaves of bread... and that same gold ounce still buys you 350 loaves of bread.

Stop valuing gold in terms of dollars.

If the dollar dissapeared from the planet tomorrow my gold is unaffected

Any brokers for Serbia? I literally can't register on any of these websites

>>10431746
2k isn't enough to make a diversified portfolio worth it rn. Obv you need to diversify but if you're starting from scratch ya gotta just pick one. Att is at 30 dollars rn that'd still only be 60 or so stocks.

>>10431733
So what, you buy gold and then put it up in a closet or a safe and never do anything with it again unless there's a total government collapse and you can't exchange goods or services using dollars anymore? It's basically just a hedge against some sort of apocalyptic event?

If so then you're like a crazy prepper except you're stockpiling inedible metals instead of food.

>>10431784
buy 100 shares of AMD
write covered calls
profit

>>10431777
Oops wrong picute >_>

>>10431775
The people fucked by inflation are people holding cash. It's sad that they get fucked but you can just put it into an index fund to avoid it.

>>10431727
You can lose in investments you moron. I'm not saying put 100% of your wealth in gold as of course investments are important.

But you idiots don't even realize...... that gold is REAL SAVINGS.

And investments aren't savings. Dumbasses like you would have said beanie babies were savings 20 years ago.

speaking of Fiat: FCAU dropped like 15% this week because the CEO had a heart attack and died. Dip buying opportunity, or should I wait a bit? PE is like 5.7 and I see the trucks getting sold errywhere

>>10431602
crypto hasnt been around to see a real bear market. especially with the new bank interest

be prepared for your fake money to crash alongside the market this time m8, jus sayin

>>10431733
yea m8
im of the camp that knows these dreaded joos you speak of, and i assure you, they arent gonna break their favorite toy. the time to buy metals will come, but it is NOT now. youre shilling of it going INTO an obvious correction is imo, predatory, and i wouldnt doubt that youre doing it to try and off some of the gold you hold because you see the writing on the wall as well.

if not, lemme tell you
gold is in for a BIG correction in the mid to near term. if we eventually get to hyper inflation, i guess it will be a good day for you. if not, expect the IMF to short gold and keep you from beating inflation nearly indefinitely, as they have done for the last century against commies and libertarians that thought they were smarter than the central banks

>>10431806
>It's sad that they get fucked but you can just put it into an index fund to avoid it.
Yeah. I prefer monthly dividend ETFs, but that's just me. Many of them hold their value and pay out massive yields.

>>10431781
>He doesn't know what compounding interest is.
Have you actually increased your assets at all with pure gold investments? Like, I'm trying to understand here. You buy gold stocks and now you have 1500 in gold let's say.
What then? Do you actually have the gold on hand? have you used iot to buy anything? Have your investments provided dividends that allow you to reinvest and grow your retirement?

>>10431812
you're over here telling me your magic rocks are real savings instead of owning a piece of the engines of capitalism, fuck off with your Marxist commodity fetishising

>>10431747
Not saying that isn't the case...

But GOLD is REAL SAVINGS. You understand that correct?

China, India, and Russia have been accumulating gold in record tonnage for a decade. You think they are doing that for fun?

>>10431812
>you can lose in investments
yeah and a casino can lose all their money

>>10431625
Go irm if you are wanting divies. otherwise just do VOO

HMNY going to bounce hard!

>>10431800
Cringe. Amd is a janetty to Intel. Intel has the market for sure. Although Intel's not hyperthreading I guess with the i7 or something. Not that it'll natter though since they are great businesspeople. All great companies get to a point where the consumers don't matter anymore and are actually oreyed on.
Facebook WWE Intel Google youtube att sprint etc etc. We're literally their cattle.

>>10431830
they feel nice but it's not tax efficient if you're currently working and collecting additional income

>>10431683
Don't Yolo on long-term investment only Yolo if you know you're going to make some f****** money

>>10431835
gold is a metal, now fuck off

>>10431835
if you do the exact opposite of retarded places like China, Russia, and India you'd be on the right side

those places are third world shitholes for a reason

>>10431625
GEO + CXW = chad REITs

>>10431795
Not necessarily. What's the worlds problem? Debt is. The world is swimming in debt and fiat currencies are all in a race to the bottom.

So you will have a situation where you will have an overnight gold revaluation to purge all the debt from the system. So you can wake up one day and gold is 35k/oz followed by a deflationary collapse and then 2 ounces of gold buys you a mansion.

What do you think the entire point of buying gold is?

I'm not saying it might not take another 40 years.... but it could happen tomorrow as well. We are in so much debt. You would be absolutely nigger tier brain activity if you didn't have even just 10 ounces of gold.

>>10431856
>they feel nice but it's not tax efficient if you're currently working and collecting additional income
I reinvest all of mine. it may not be tax efficient, but it allows for some significant accumulation if you know what you're doing.

>>10431625
Seriously just VOO

>sold the midpoint, bought the dip

NOW THIS IS PODRACING!!

>>10431777
>>10431805

>>10431878
>We are in so much debt.
The national debt doesn't mean shit. The fact that the GOP likes to play chicken with the interest payments does.

HMNY right now around $7 it's going to bounce to 10

>>10431855
True and I only have AMD no intel. The thing is intc is in the dumps and AMD is hyped. I like intel more in the long run but AMD is doing really good and intc looks to be cloudy for a long time now.

The TSMC 7nm vs intc 10nm thing seems to be a real catalyst for AMD in the near term. That's based on reading random /g/ shit though but I'll take the gamble myself.

In the long-term I'd rather be in INTC though.

>>10431878
If the economy collapsed you'd see a reversion to bartering. That is useful items for useful items. You'd be better off stocking a couple thousand rounds of common ammunition than buying gold.

Is Amazon supposed to crash tonight like Facebook did last night?

>>10431878
Debt and exploitation is fuel to economy.

>>10431910
Could happen always but probably unlikley , That would be the end of tech market. and probably destrtoy everything else on the way down

Basically it would REALLY FUCK SOME SHIT UP

>HMNY

>>10431831
You aren't understanding there is a difference between investments and money.

Amazon is a stock. Gold is money.

The ENTIRE point in buying gold is so you have money and wealth for when fiat implodes that's the entire point!

When fiat fails.... and your savings is wiped out. You'll wish you had real savings which is gold.

Most of these dollar denominated investments going up aren't even making you much in real terms because prices of everything are going up as well.

The real transfer of wealth will be those who own real money when this debt bubble explodes

>>10431878
>So you can wake up one day and gold is 35k/oz followed by a deflationary collapse and then 2 ounces of gold buys you a mansion.
Goldbugs actually believe this? Are you fucking kidding me?

>>10431900
Lol yeah I'm a total pleb when it comes to g stuff. I try but whatever. I just read the shitposts and can make comparisons to other things. Amd SEEMS more focused on performance and quality which honestly isn't really that important to consumers. You just have to make it SEEM like they are getting quality. Idk in at work drank too much preworkout and rambling.

>GE
Who 13.00 buyer here

HMNY BUY BUY BUY

>>10431645
cost of living is skyrocketing mostly because of housing prices relative to median income. Everything else is fine, the CPI says food prices have gone up about 2.6% annual since 2002. Commodities for all urban consumers are up about 1.6% a year over that period. All of that would be easy to cover with treasury bonds. The thing that kills people's bottom line is rent, mortgages, debt from things like student loans and medical emergencies, etc.

And ultimately the income inequality is squarely because of stagnating income. That is all it could be, we're talking about the spread between the top and bottom incomes. If the entire pie is increasing but the top keeps accruing larger shares of it, then the rest of us are going to have less. That could just as easily happen under an idealized, flat price level, except it would end up taking the form of people literally getting offered less money for jobs, or good paying jobs being replaced by jobs that pay less.

>>10431910
no, its going to have a massive pump after hours, like google did

2/4 fangs drop, 2/4 fangs rise
its pottery in motion

dont miss your chance, you can (not) redo this

>>10431936
how much gold you own?

>>10431936
>gold
yeah mansions will be worth nothing, housing worth nothing, farms worth nothing, land worth nothing, etc

Everyone will want small gold nuggets to work 1 month.

kek, is TSLA going to go sub $300 soon?

>>10431878
The problem is that gold hasn't been used in regular trade for like 100 years. Very few people will know how to value their goods, property, or services in terms of gold / silver so most people won't readily accept it as payment.

HMNY

Buy today in the 7s sell tomorrow near 10

>>10431908
lol it's truly amazing how stupid you people are. What do you think is going to happen? Economy collapses and we will live the next 500 years in some closed loop barter system exchanging toilet paper for blowjobs?

Of course having ammunition and food and medicine is good. But wtf are you going to do? Drop 500K into guns?

You realize there's no law stating that if you buy gold you can't buy ammunition too right? You realize you can buy ammunition for defense and food to eat and also buy gold to protect your wealth. You understand this right brainlet?

Also.. it prob won't even come
To tha... you just revalue gold much higher one day to purge the debt and all prices become gold prices. And a house is now worth 20k and 1 ounce of gold converts to the new currency buys you a home outright

>>10431983
you missed it, was around 292 earlier this week

time to long TLT guise
ignore the metals shills. buy fucking long term govt debt. better yet, buy derivatives on TOP of em lol

>>10431936
I don't think you understand how money works...
Money, in its most simple form, is nothing more than a debt exchange contract. It is an agreement between you and someone else for a pre determined amount of work. If I hand you a dollar for an apple, I am telling you that the work that went into that one apple is worth exactly one dollar. If you agree and take the dollar, you are agreeing that the work went into planting and harvesting that single apple is worth one dollar.
That's it. Gold in and of itself has no intrinsic value. It is merely a metal which is stable. That's it.
Once you understand this very simple concept, you understand that you can all but substitute any given item in for gold and dollars and the end result is the same.

$IQ

Buy and pray, who’s in

There was someone with a lot of gold in venezuala. He bought entire cities after the fiat collapse and is now the richest person in the country. GOLD works.

In response to the faggots spamming gold. Your argument is when fiat dies your investment account will have gold. If fiat dies what makes you think gold matters?
Situation 1. Total collapse Ina woods
Situation 2. You don't get your gold because you have no way to force them to give you the physical thing, you are just as broke as everyone
Situation 3. You have physical gold and use it as a weapon to thwart invaders trying to steal your food.

>>10432004
>you just revalue gold much higher one day to purge the debt and all prices become gold prices.
who's "you" in this sentence? who do you think is going to do this?

>>10431945
Why not? It's simple math? We aren't on an intl gold standard. Prices are skyrocketing and people are becoming poorer and poorer.

China has been accumulating thousands of tons of gold for years now. You think they are doing that for fun?

I mean WW3 is literally a possible thing because these countries don't want to use the dollar anymore. That's literally the reason.

Not sure wtf is so difficult for you to understand?

>>10432027
that sound like some straight up gold bug propaganda they jerk themselves off to

social collapse followed by the lone genius gold hoarder buying up castles to play dungeons and dragons in for eternity

someone call the exterminator we have a goldbug infestation

>Fiat collapses

Okay I got a gold bar. Let me walk around a mansion neighborhood and see who wants it for their house.

In a collapse situation the FIAT collapses, but not everything else in the country

>>10432035
Thank God somebody finally gets it.

HMNY guys.. get in on that bounce..

>>10432051
i own $40k of the stuff and even i think he's retarded

>>10432050
the /k/ social collapse propaganda is more entertaining and more realistic of course

>>10431878
dude, at this point you are either arguing with trolls or completely clueless brainlets

just dont bother anymore ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>10432027
Sounds great until government spooks come to lock him up on whatever charges they want and confiscate all of his assets.

>>10432055
I think everyones been trying to beat that into the goldburg.

>>10431964
This is all complete bullshit.

In 1964 min wage was $1.25 and gold was 35$/oz

So a min wage worker 60 years ago could purchase an ounce of gold with one weeks paycheck.

Today min wage is like 9$... and gold is $1,300.

So a min wage worker today has to work an entire MONTH to purchase that same ounce of gold that a min wage worker could purchase after only a week of working 60 years ago.

You don't know wtf you are talking about because you have been brainwashed by a kike govt education system and you don't understand what real money is and how not having real money creates the income inequality you see today

>>10431977
Exactly, this is the whole thing. Money is just an intermediary for labor, capital and business/consumer products/services. Focusing on having "correct money" in an economy dominated by one currency is silly, it's doomsday prepping. Buy the assets that are going to appreciate in value against everything else in the economy, and it doesn't matter what nominal prices are as long as they're not increasing rapidly. If we were in an inflationary spiral in America, we'd have bigger problems. That would imply your gold barely has anything to buy, not just nationally but globally. If you lived in a third world shithole I'd understand buying foreign assets or other commodities to hold some value, since who knows. Maybe it will Venezuela next year, or the military junta in charge of the government will do some stupid shit that tanks the currency and you'll want to flee with whatever you've got to a market that is more stable.

I'm going to cut up my gold into small specks to buy food with in a collapse. Gold is the best currency.

>>10432060
Check out this "analyst".

>>10431977
It's all relative you moron. Gold is real money and has been suppressed so you would be brainwashed into Jew fiat so the Jews can steal your wealth through inflation

>>10432035
this
toilet paper and toothpaste is a better currency in collapse

>>10432068
also, buy bitcoin

gold will get devalued once we start spacefaring or develop transmutation

>>10432095
Everytime I think I'm a terrible investor, I remember there are people still holding HMNY.

>>10432095
but think if HMNY ever recovers to $10,000!

>>10432051
>goldbug infestation
this is your sell signal

HMNY alot of fighting going on around $7

make or break

bounce coming

>>10432089
Yeah, it takes a few hours of mental simulation of a basic economy to figure it all out. I don't think many people are interested in it though.

what even is the point of owning a stock which doesn't pay dividends?
You are literally giving a corporation free money, with nothing in return, in a hope that you can gamble on their continued growth so you can sell your shares to a bigger idiot willing to pay the price

>>10432090
/k/ here, in a collapse we're gonna be moving to a lead standard, not a gold one. personally I can't fucking wait

>>10432016
No... you don't know what money is. That's the problem. Money isn't DEBT exchange you stupid braindead nigger.

The primary function of money is to MEASURE VALUE of goods and services exchanged for it!

You don't even understand the primary function of money.

Which is why a gold ounce 100 years ago was a good weekly salary and is still a good weekly salary today. And 100 years ago 20$ was a good eeeklt salary yet today that 20$ doesn't buy you fucking lunch at Taco Bell for 2

How can you morons be so brainwashed that you can't understand this spoonfed example?

whos ready for 3rd impact tonight after AMZN earnings?

>>10432111
They used to trade at 33000.
What the fuck even happened to them? They're only trading for 7 bucks a share now.

>>10432088
You just repeat yourself "hurr the dollar fell in value". We get it, inflation exists. That doesn't mean anything for income inequality, it's just when income for parts of the population towards the middle or bottom aren't following the price level. If the price level was flat there could still be income inequality, and if it rises there could be income inequality. It isn't the core cause of increasing shares of wealth going upwards.

>>10432100

Here is what happens

FIAT COLLAPSE
Your gold is now worth $1,000,000,000,000
You can go exchange it for that.

Want to buy a house with it? Want to buy a farm? Want to buy food? Exchange rate is barely improved for those goods.

HMNY Stale mate around $7

LETS GOOOO!!

>>10432136
You don't give the corp anything. You are buying bags from inside inverstors and initial inverstors.

>>10432136
they reinvest in the company and i dont have to pay taxes on their growth along the way.

>>10432090
You realiZe gold had been money for thousands of years right?

You do know that the word for money in many foreign languages is literally the word silver.

Life existed before you were born. And the dollar won't last forever

>>10432141
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credit_theory_of_money

>buy gold
>fiat finally collapse
>"hurray I'm rich!"
>take gold to buy stuff
>someone shoots you and run off with your gold
>call emergency
>nothing happens because the police are all laid off, the government is no more, and armed bandits roam the streets
>remember you can't eat gold as you lay dying in a pool of your own blood

Real clever there. The only correct thing to do to prepare for fiat collapse is to invest in guns and ammo.

>>10432176
Of course. Yet even now it's easier to escape with funds via bitcoin than gold or simply having the money in offshore in some other denomination/account/investment.

gold will never be exchanged as currency at a widescale

HMNY going to bounce fucking hard. Easy fucking gains to come.

>>10432150
So why was "income inequality" never a thing under a gold standard and why is it a top 3 issue today?

I mean you understand that under a gold standard you have super cheap prices, right?

You realize the reason ou can't make it and have countless NEETS in crypto trying to make it becaus you cant otherwise because of skyrocketing prices

Should I sell my amazon before earnings today?

>>10431781
Were you dropped on your head as a child?

Also, buy WEAT

>>10432202
how much have you lost so far

>>10432136
>what even is the point of owning a stock which doesn't pay dividends?
It depends on your investment strategy. Stocks that offer no dividends can be traded more easily because of the value.

>>10432152
I can't eat gold
I can't drink gold
I can't catch food with gold
I can't purify water with gold
I can't sanitize a wound with gold
I can't relieve pain with gold

what are things I'm going to need in a full societal collapse? Shit that can do all of the above.
If you want to be the richest man alive (which is an extremely bad idea in anarchy), you're going to want to have shit like iodine (water purification, sanitization), ammunition, basic medication, bandages, containers, and maybe, MAYBE, a little bit of gold on the side for more advanced bartering

>>10432200
I understand that. Gold is both currency and money. Obv we aren't going back to buying shit with gold.

But MONEY has to back the paper CURRENCY otherwise the currency is a fraud and you have skyrocketing prices and income inequality.

>>10432202
>>10432156
>>10432130

You poor soul.

>>10432203
The system is fucked from globalism as much as anything else. The war on low/middle classes is much more than the fed fucking social security in the ass.

>>10432203
>Fiat money is a currency without intrinsic value that has been established as money, often by government regulation. Fiat money does not have use value, and has value only because a government maintains its value, or because parties engaging in exchange agree on its value.[1] It was introduced as an alternative to commodity money and representative money. Commodity money is created from a good, often a precious metal such as gold or silver, which has uses other than as a medium of exchange (such a good is called a commodity). Representative money is similar to fiat money, but it represents a claim on a commodity (which can be redeemed to a greater or lesser extent)

You say I'm wrong but holy shit bro. Do you even research what fiat money even is?

>>10432197
You're also gonna want nonperishable food, antibiotics, and batteries. People always forget the fucking batteries for some reason

Cigarette lighters, too. During the Bosnian war those were worth more than you have any idea

>>10432212
just got in it today. I've been waiting for this reverse split and drop forever

HMNY going to bounce hard

>>10432141
youre recycling from the last thread

holy fuck never thought id say this but id rather have baggy in here than this guy

btw >>10432139
is right, and books will be worth more than gold too (many of my books from getting a ME degree are already worth their weight in gold, they will be even more valuable if the internet were to suddenly die with the economy )

seriously your arguments were disproved over 100 years ago, youre than william jennings bryan

>>10432203
>"income inequality" never a thing under a gold standard
Are you actually this retarded? Marx wrote his manifesto in 1848.

>>10432254
I'm so sorry

>after the reverse split the average cost of my HMNY shares is $538,000/share

how fucked am I? Will I ever break even?

It's turned into a /k/ vs /goldbugs/ debate who survives impending doom, there really are no winners here

>>10431423
>But it's impossible to lose owning gold and silver.

Yah...

> it would mean that the govt isn't out of control anymore and prices and goods will fall also

So when the price of gold went from about $800 in 1980 to about $250 in 2000, you're saying, what, that prices fell nearly 70% over those 2 decades?

If you bought gold around the 1980, you literally are STILL behind on an inflation adjusted basis. I really can't think of another broad asset class that's been at best flat for basically a working lifetime.

Not that gold doesn't have its uses in an overall investment picture, but you goldbugs are delusional. If a true global catastrophe occurred you would be traded your shiny rocks for bottles of water, or just catching bullets in the head for them.

>>10432222
You stupid? Gold has been money for thousands of years yet nobody ever drank it or ate it?

Wtf does not being able to eat gold have to do with anything????

Gold is the money you will use (converted to a new currency) or in a mad max scenario....

To buy things like food and property.

How stupid are you people???

Venezuela's currency has collapsed and you can buy 3-4 months of food with 1 single ounce of silver. Why? BecUse it's real money and real savings.

How dumb are you people to not understand gold is savings? How infected are your brains with Jew propaganda to not understand that?

So is this a doomsday prepping thread now?

>>10432242
Stock up on ultra-long battery life game handhelds and little solar power chargers for the batteries. Collect all resources from parents with upset kids.

The only reason to hold physical metals is to impress women. I have roughly $400 of gold silver and platinum that I bought with some savings bonds I traded in a few years ago. It’s amazing how fast the get wet when you show them those tiny bars of gold. Kek

>>10432267
oh there'll be a winner

>>10432273
yes, buy CAT

>>10432273
No it's mock the goldburg time in between anything interesting happening on the markets.
My shares are up 1.33 since opening. So it's a nice pastime.

is there a chart app like Trading View for android?
what the fuck does RKG use?

>>10432273
>So is this a doomsday prepping thread now?
Those people need to GTFO.

reminder that the SP500 is going to 3000

>>10432273

Betting on a collapse is the dumbest thing ever. America has been right for over 230 years and it's still not dead yet. Idiots. Invest in Nikkei if you want to be a member. Bitches.

>>10432242
Yeah and now will you be able to get those things? Silver and gold stupid!

If you have a chicken and need batteries, but the guy you want to trade with has both chicken and batteries. Guess what? He isn't going to give you batteries for your chicken because he's got chickens already.

Which is why barter is inefficient.

But if you have silver... he will take your silver for batteries. BecUse maybe he wants a blowjob from a hooker and will use that silver dime to give to a hooker for a blowjob

And then that hooker who gave him a. Blowjob for a silver dime can go buy her mixed raced kid some apple sauce with that silver coin.

Get it now stupid?

>>10432290
long RGR

Hahahaha I just checked them, I guess they got clobbered after the Toronto shooting? I'm gonna go take my own joke advice

>>10432306
What about training my guns skill?

hold 5% of your portfolio in gold as a hedge. that is all. /thread

>>10432261
>I'm so sorry
i'm already up you dingus

HMNY getting ready for a bounce. Easy fucking gains you newbs.

>>10432301
>America has been right.
>Invest in a Japanese stock exchange.
Wat?!

>>10432306
if you have a chicken and he has a chicken and batteries, he's just going to steal your chicken and your gold and silver

you seem to be neglecting the fact that IN ANARCHY, ANYTHING GOES. NOTHING is obligating the other party to play fair. NOTHING.

>>10432319
you won't become the richest man in Venezula with that attitude bud

>>10432265
HMNY consolidated by 250. It was never $2152. Your math sucks, no wonder you're poor.

>>10432319
>a hedge

>>10432267
the only winning move is not to play

but people keep feeding this goldbug (you)s

i cant wait for asteroid mining to finally kill gold values, pissing on their grave before lighting it on fire

>our childrens children will pay $0.10 for 1 lb of gold

the tears from gold bugs will probably end global water scarcity for a good generation or two

we just need bezos to get the funding to launch

Kek, my TA says hmny will have to do another reverse split by the end of this month at the rate its dropping.

BUY HMNY

>>10432271
Your valuing in terms of dollars. There are fluctuations over small time frames because of manipulation.

But again... you BUY gold so you have money and wealth for when fiat IMPLODES. That's the entire point.

Because of fiat gold and silver are undervalued big time compared to other real assets inflated in value because of fiat.

When fiat collapses and a 200k home is now worth 50k and gold is not 10k an ounce. You then purchase that real asset which is now undervalued compared to gold.

>>10432326
If you're going to be against America at least go into Nikkei to help based Japan

HMNY load zone between 6.94-7.31

Huge swings to come.

buy today sell tomorrow!

>>10432319
crypto is a better hedge nowadays

>>10432342
hey listen, I have to admit i'm part of the baiting goldbugs with (yous) problem

>>10432337
when you have big boy amounts of savings it starts to make sense

>>10432347
Nobody is buying that piece of shit. It's a bigger Ponzi scheme than crypto.

>>10432329
You think gold owners don't own guns too lol.

2nd amendment bro. Get educated.

>>10432306
I don't know what the fuck kind of idea you have that "zomg overnight fiat collapse!!!" will happen but there's still be cops and order and the Hobbsean state and not widespread banditry and bellum omnium contra omnes.

>>10432342
>i cant wait for asteroid mining to finally kill gold values, pissing on their grave before lighting it on fire
I was going to say something like that. Once asteroid mining comes online in the next few decades, mineral prices outside of oil are going to drop like a rock.
>Pun absolutely intended.

>>10432359
Are you black or just stupid?

Crypto is the polar opposite of a store of value. Bitcoin was 20k not even 6 months ago.

You are fuckig stupid

>>10432342
its the other way around. we wont mind gold from astroids until gold becomes fabulously expensive.
sadly it doesnt look like gold will for become expensive enough until a thousand years or so

>>10432355
Is HMNY some kind of meme though?
I'm looking at the spread and it looks like a losing game desu. Especially since it lost nearly all its valuation over time.

>>10432359
much better. I don't have any BTC but I agree with bullish arguments on it. BTC in particular

Fidelity sold my AMZN share at full price before it went down. I made about $400.

>>10432359
no, it's not

>>10432365
No, thats what theyve been tricked into believing though :)
Its not a hedge against anything, simply a gamble
Go 0% gold and put it all in bonds

>>10432373
Look around you bro. Fiat is failing all over the planet right now in real time in a race to the bottom.

It's like you aren't even on earth right now

>>10432203
>So why was "income inequality" never a thing under a gold standard and why is it a top 3 issue today?
dude what lol of course it was a thing, some still estimate that Rockefeller was the richest capitalist to ever live with almost half a trillion in present dollars. People used to live in company towns, some meticulously managed by the owners such that they basically looked like their own personal game of the Sims where they controlled what people were allowed to do to a stupid degree. The labor movement involved deaths of women and children burned alive in camps by private security forces. At the time political cartoons would often display the excess and power of the "trusts" as grotesque. William Jennings Brian was popular with farmers for wanting to move to silver because they felt there wasn't enough gold in the economy (simplified, read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_silver for an overview).

>>10432391
>he's no longer an Amazon shareholder
sad!

>>10432381
Want to get out of Venezuala with a ton of gold or equivalent value in BTC? You'll take the volatility

>>10432342
honestly I think nuclear transmutation will get us there faster

there's a particle accelerator target at Oak Ridge National Laboratory that's made of gold, platinum, and palladium, and none of those metals were in it when it started, it was just some specific isotopes of mercury. Just gotta get the price down, which is just an engineering problem.

>>10432367
I know I shouldn't be feeding the troll, but
in societal collapse, there is no government
there is no second ammendment

>>10432395
Yeah because the bond market isn't going to implode lol

You have to be dumber than a mexican and nigger combined to put your wealth in bonds lol

>>10432402
You... you know we're in quantitative tightening right now, right? Did you not update your copypasta after Trump got elected or something?

>>10432384

>>10431947
This opinion is the reason intel isn't trading 25% lower and AMD 20% higher at this very moment. People haven't figured it out yet. Still time to get aboard the AMD train to gains.

>>10432294
Search in the store, there's a 3rd party facade for tv that's pretty good

>>10432393
>>10432381
its been a better hedge than GLD has for the past 6 months, spiking when the rest of my portfolio drops (as GLD just enjoys a nice steady decline, no peaks unless the market is up)
maybe 5 or 10 years ago gold was better, but so far this calendar year crypto has been doing a better impression of gold than gold has for me

if you disagree with me then just keep doing your thing, no skin off of my ass, a hedge isnt my primary investment

>>10432147
My GOD these newblet fucks who don't know about rh's shitty charts and how they don't show accurate prices after a reverse split. Just play the lotto, your too stupid to do stock market like the big boys.

>>10432384
Its a comfortable short if you can play it. You know overtime it will lose value more value, even if it stages a small comeback and and then.

The trouble is I don't think you can find anyone selling puts or any shares to short them with right now.

>>10432450
it dropped from 20k to 6k, it's not a hedge, it's a spec play. i own some.

>>10432456
Well I ain't quite ready for that kind of play.

>>10432453
its actually easier to talk about pre-rs prices as if the rs had always happened.
look at the chart they're replying to.

>>10432453
Not the guy you are replying to, and not from the US so I don't use rh. But it is not his fault that whatever retarded broker you guys use can't even draw a basic chart the right way and thus displays misleading information.

>>10432211
not gonna lie, i sold my swing portion of my WEAT.
it will pullback some, and then its time to load up imo

>>10432406
oh the gold decay chain is simple, but enviornmentalists autistically sperg out at the grenest source of energy known to man, so we are stuck burning oil and coal instead of making whatever element we want with our 0 co2 emission(yes, 0, the only byproduct of nuclear reactors is pure h2o, purer water than whats in your tap), 1000X magnitude power plants

i swear sometimes we need a new plague to kill off the left end of the populations iq bellcurve, before the retards drag us all down with them (even more)

>>10432404
You mean Amazon bagholder. We'll see what their earnings report does. Maybe I'll buy it back.

guys everything will be fine, HMNY have their own jet so you know they will not exit scam

>>10432323
moishe-poster?
i thought we were in a 0.25?
or was that not w the 250:1 factored in?

People want to complain about tripfags derailing threads, this doomsday shit is worse than any tripfag blog.

>>10432503
nuclear is unironically the future of power

>>10432529
agreed, i miss the tripfags, something i never thought id say (well type anyways)

>>10432479

>>10432513
Love this team, moving forward to the future, BUY HMNY NOW

>>10432513
lol that jet is probably worth more than their market cap now.

>>10432384
it's not something you want to hold forever.

Buy today, sell tomorrow.

>>10432453
>your too stupid

>>10432503
nuclear is not going to happen just give it up

renewables have already BTFO nuclear

>>10432567
renewablefags are worse than goldbugs

>>10432267
>It's turned into a /k/ vs /goldbugs/ debate who survives impending doom, there really are no winners here
ill allow it if we get to talk about the bosnian war desu
really fascinating bit of history there, that no one talks about

>>10432555
Truly, we will never see these prices again!!

>>10432551
we know.

>>10432529
>>10432544
>implying these aren't the tripfags
Before I leave I have to say that You, Bagholder Extreme, were the slimest, greasiest, slimball faggot kike nigger shill here. Your stock market knowledge is abysmal and anyone who listens to you is bound to lose money. Literally kill yourself

>>10432515
No, we're still a go with $0.25. This shit is dropping like a rock. We'll probably be there within a couple weeks. Hell, HMNY might not even stay above $1 for the minimum 10 days, kek.

>>10432567
Renewables are unsustainable in their current state. Wind fars take up way too much space and completely obliterate natural life, while solar is still far too expensive. They're also killing the economy with retarded subsidies because they can't survive in the free market.

>>10432450
Except gold Represnerd real fucking tangible physical wealth... and a unit of labor

Your bitcorns are a bunch of electrons running around on a circuit board inside a computer which doesn't represent shit.

Your friend: hey I just bought a frog today at the pet store.

You: oh cool, yeah I actually have a bunch of frogs on my computer.... their names are all Pepe.

>>10432587
I'm honored you are mistaking me for baggie. I'm only an alcoholic not a full circle degenerate like him.

HMNY bids stacking about to leave station.

Is it safe to buy F now?

>>10432575
nuclearfags are delusional and stuck in the 1950
its over, get with the times gramps

>>10432628
I don't think you will get another chance to buy F under $10 ever again.

>>10432619
truly a momentous return to the top of the heap, can't wait for all us #investors to get on the HMNY plane to the future

>>10432566
yes, because I proofread and triple edit all of my posts to this distinguished board of literary minds

HMNY going to bounce hard. Over $10 easy!

>>10432539
this desu
the problem is the oil dynasties will not let go of their cash cow until literally every last drop is spent.

>>10432598
>Hell, HMNY might not even stay above $1 for the minimum 10 days, kek.
that would be something, wouldnt it? at this rate it wouldnt surprise me

>>10432613
I'm not calling you faggy baggy you moron. That stupid kike has been shilling metals lately

UVXY has been fighting decay and held pretty steady, get ready for the next wave of volatility soon!
I hope

>>10432450

...Anonymous (ID: z5OcV6rV)
07/26/18(Thu)11:09:00 No.10432611
>>10432450 #
Except gold Represents real fucking tangible physical wealth... and a unit of labor

Your bitcorns are a bunch of electrons running around on a circuit board inside a computer which doesn't represent shit.

Your friend: hey I just bought a frog today at the pet store.

You: oh cool, yeah I actually have a bunch of frogs on my computer.... their names are all Pepe.

Your living in a fucking retarded fantasy world is you think your bitcorns measure up as a store of value like gold does.

>>10432582
HURR DURR THIS MAKES SENSE THAT ONE SHARE WAS $5K HURR DURR REALLY MAKES VALUATION OF THIS COMPANY SEEM UNFAIR I BET I AHOULD BUY SINCE THEY WILL PROBABLY BOUNCE SOMEHWEERE NEAR THAT PRICE


please invest it all in HMNY anon. You deserve to 'win' this one.

>>10432666
He has been shilling SLV calls forever not just lately. Also nice trips

>>10432559
Ok, so it's basically a good practice stock of sorts. You can put 7 or 10 bucks in and you won't lose much, but you won't gain a thing either. So it lets you work out the process of buying and selling without exposing you to real risk?

>>10432640
Thanks put in a buy at 9.90. I hope I'm not being greedy. Just ready to retire

did you know Warren buffet has 0 gold? He has like 0.1% of his networth in silver has a speculative play though

>>10432686
check my post history anon I'm not the HMNY shill
thanks for the sperg out though

Short term calls are free money, short term puts are guaranteed losses.

>>10432567
there is no alternative, unless we become a society with no electricity again

its only a matter of time, doesnt matter what your personal feelings are, there is no energy source in existance that can compare

also nuclear is cleaner in every single way than any renewable energy source is, no emissions, no damage to nature, and its multiple magnitudes more dense and efficient

humans will use nuclear power for a majority of electrical generation, its only a matter of time

its pure insanity to me that people will defend coal for electrical power generation, and shun nuclear, when coal power plants output thousands of times as much radiation into their surroundings as a nuclear plant does
blows my fucking mind

>>10432628
5 year chart has nothing but lower highs and lower lows. Plus, show me one Ford product and I'll show you 2 better foreign ones. I like buying dips too but I see nothing exciting about Ford's future price action.

>>10432628
I bpought F but it looks like we are gonna get small speced

love this crew #HMNYstrong

There are some people in this thread that are going to miss out on the overnight HMNY gains

>>10432723
That is why I think F is consolidating their business to just trucks and suv's. This is the turning point for the company.
>>10432733
/smg/ isn't as gullible as reddit, go shill your shit there.

>>10432721
most people don't know nuclear is 20% of the electrical grid today in the US, it's disgusting that previous administrations have let the uranium industry get to it's current state within the US

So I kinda want to sell that spread that the guy in the last thread was talking about. Seems like free money as long as AMZN stays above 1680

Decided to start a new thread
>>10432750

>>10432752
What's a good stock market sub?

>>10432721
read up

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanford_Site#Cleanup_under_superfund

>major releases of radioactive material
>continued concerns about contaminated groundwater

no one is going to let you store your radioactive shit anymore
its over
you tried, you failed, we moved on

new bread
>>10432810

>>10432634
holy shit m8
theres no way we can make enough energy with fucking windmills of all things to keep up w exponential increases in demand for energy. what about that dont you understand? energy is, longterm, ALWAYS in an increasing demand. roughly exponential increases over time. you putting windmills in every available spot in the world will never keep up

solar is a useful supplement
nuclear energy is the only reasonable solution we have currently to keep up with energy demand

but for christ sake, look at your chart. that chart has nothing to do with what wind can provide. it merely outlines how ineffective wind is, due to massive infrastructrual costs/maintenance, while producing less energy than solar.

for fucks sake, you wanna talk clean energy that makes sense? tidal power. go be retarded somewhere else

>>10432681
when it just bobbles around and goes nowhere, that means there is less contango. thats very good

>>10432683
>phonefaggot goldbug
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE GOLDBUGS OUT

>>10432764
>>10432813
AAAUUGGHHH

>>10432764
oh shiet never mind, ignore mine

>>10432349
>There are fluctuations over small time frames

>1980 to 2018
>Literally a working adult lifetime

>>10432704
Tfw I don't give a fuck about you to check your history and I still hope you lose all your money and die of AIDS from being fucked by niggers

>>10432836
The other faggot doesn't even have /smg/ in the title....

>>10432836
Sorry anon....
I just noticed this one was saging.

>>10432764
>doesn't put /smg/ in the subject
you had one job

>>10432699
i should shill him on plat desu

>>10432829
>muh exponential
guess what retard
more solar energy strikes the earth each second than the energy contained in all uranium on the planet
uranium is a dead end, you cant safely store the waste, its heavily subsidized, people hate it. its going no where

look up a Type 2 civilization
solar will get us there

>>10431682
I'm all in. Facebook is gonna bounce up hard just watch and see. I usually trade crypto and ignore /smg/ but today I'm here to show you girls how it's done.

>>10432929
I'm betting it'll bounce at least 5% over the next 2-3 trading days.

>>10432916
>more solar energy strikes the earth each second than the energy contained in all uranium on the planet
ok call me when we entirely block out the sun from upper orbit w a series of massive solar arrays

dyson sphere or bust

either way, what youre suggesting (blocking out the fucking sun) is much more dangerous than anything uranium could ever do

You guys have had much more interesting de-railments that didn't last this long. am disappoint

>>10431344
you will rue the day you insulted shiny rocks friendo

>>10432916
>more solar energy strikes the earth each second than the energy contained in all uranium on the planet
>uranium is a dead end, you cant safely store the waste, its heavily subsidized, people hate it. its going no where
no, wrong on so many levels, ignoring intensity, emissivity, sunlight used by natural things (like the plants that make our fucking food), ignoring the magnitude of energy in the strong and weak force bonds, the many planets worth of raw material needed to even harvest solar in a dyson swarm (much less sphere) as you imply is the future, not even touching the problem that solar power alone doesnt even provide enough power to strip mine the hundreds of square miles needed to find solar panel materials, build AND power the factories processing the various raw materials, nor produce the high voltages needed to assemble them
there is enough uranium in seawater alone to meet all the worlds current power needs (not electricity, but total energy, as if you and i could theoretically "eat" energy in any form, if every car ran on it, if it was the only thing crops used to grow instead of the sun was lightbulbs powered with nuclear generated electricity) for the next 4-6 billion years, it just costs too much to "mine" it out of the oceans when coal and shit is dirt cheap as far as $/killowatt (protip: a "yellow" sun such as ours will have expanded out past earths orbit by 5 billion years)
not even mentioning the gold goose that will be cold fusion

and uranium waste can be used to further produce power, the problem is a cost one, it becomes unprofitable to use waste once its degraded a certain amount. storing it until its economically viable to use again is sensible, as long as retards dont go digging to find them

I dont even care how bad your bait is, this delusion is what has been holding humanity back for the past 50 years, and waiting for people like you to educate themselves or die off is taking too long

>>10431343
the man speaks true

>>10433312
>die off
sorry lads but young people hate nuclear, its not going to happen

>what sentiments do social media users predominantly express on Twitter. Quantitative findings indicate that after the 2011 nuclear disaster at Fukushima Japan, the amount of nuclear energy–related tweets that were linked to outside information far outnumbered tweets containing no external link. Results also indicate that the predominant tone in these tweets was one of pessimism about nuclear energy.
http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1077699016640715

the real thing dragging us down are the nuclear boomers who keep shilling their dead energy to 200 IQ people like me who could be doing better things

>>10432984
Most definitely. A sudden drop like that is a cinch for a bounce. I'll probably get out at 188 to play it safe. Still a little rusty in stocks

>>10433379
GL in power hour. I have a feeling the you're in for another 5% drop.